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I have a rooted NC with stock 1.1 firmware. Im just wondering what's gonna happen when the 1.2 update comes down? Will have to re-root it? If I do then I guess we'll have to wait until someone figures it out and produces a new boot image right? If so then I might not update until that's figured out.
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I have a rooted NC with stock 1.1 firmware. Im just wondering what's gonna happen when the 1.2 update comes down? Will have to re-root it? If I do then I guess we'll have to wait until someone figures it out and produces a new boot image right? If so then I might not update until that's figured out.
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If you don't do anything, it will update and break root and you will have to wait till that is rooted, HOWEVER! There are tutorials out there that have step-by-step on how to disable the updater, if that's what you want.
If I disable the updater, is it simple to re-enable later when the new rooting process has been figured out?
I would like to know also. Since the new update is supposed to come out by the end of the month I just thought I would keep WiFi off at all times until I researched the best solution.
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If you don't do anything, it will update and break root and you will have to wait till that is rooted, HOWEVER! There are tutorials out there that have step-by-step on how to disable the updater, if that's what you want.
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Will 3rd party Apps you've purchased still be present on the device and usable?
Apparently, you just have to rename /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip to /system/etc/security/otacerts.zip.bak
Some people seem to have still gotten updates after renaming though. It's a little vague and some of the info might be outdated. This could potentially throw a wrench in a lot of people's tablets.
Your purchased apps are stored by google. Yes they will still be there. I actually had purchased items from my phone show up on my book...quick download and good to go.
Now, after an update, you may lose them until it's rooted again...
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yeah, if you let the update go through, I can almost say for sure you'll lose access to the apps until you root again and probably redownload them)
To be safe get "Titanium Backup" and Purchase it's ProKey from the Market. Using it you can Batch Backup your Apps and App Data. Then if anything happens you can always Recover your Apps. (Batch Restore needs Pro Key)
For help using Titanium Backup read this Lifehacker article:
http://ca.lifehacker.com/5784857/how-to-set-up-a-fully-automated-app-and-settings-backup-on-android
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If i update it breaks root will I still be able to use the apps that don't require superuser? Meaning can I still use what apps are already in the Nook
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Hi all,
I am supposed to receive my nexus 7 tomorrow.
I just cant decide on whether I should root or no.
I can say for sure that I do not plan to change roms, I only want to root in order to use storage via usb-otg (also not sure I will use it eventually).
I do know that I want to receive OTA updates and that's why I don't like the idea of rooting.
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot!
Asaf
Yes you should root it if you want to use usb-otg. I decided not to root mine on day one and now I'm looking for a method that won't erase everthing on my device. So if you see yourself needing that in the future do it now rather than later .
shemsha said:
Hi all,
I am supposed to receive my nexus 7 tomorrow.
I just cant decide on whether I should root or no.
I can say for sure that I do not plan to change roms, I only want to root in order to use storage via usb-otg (also not sure I will use it eventually).
I do know that I want to receive OTA updates and that's why I don't like the idea of rooting.
Any suggestions?
Thanks a lot!
Asaf
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This is a Nexus device which makes to easy to root and unroot..
If an OTA comes out you can be unrooted and back stock in a matter of minutes..
Oddly, I have had no reason or desire to root my N7 and I even put my GNex back stock...
If you do root, do it before you install all kinds of stuff. You have to reset to root. Not sure how the Google credit works, but you might want to register the device, get the credit, then root. Just in case.
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I was reluctant to root or not. CM10 is only a preview, other roms not much better than stock, I don't need OTG, so why root? For one crucial app: TITANIUM BACKUP. When you unlock and root everything is wiped!
My suggestion is unlock the bootloader right away since that part wipes data, then root when (and if) you decide to download an app that needs root access.
Easier to Root now rather than later. Rooting requires you to wipe losing all apps and settings.
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Yes. First thing I always do on a Nexus device is unlock and root. It's just as easy to lock it again and flash the stock rom if ever needed.
I would unlock the bootloader at a minimum, before you set anything up, as that action will wipe data. If you decide to root later on you'll be in great shape.
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Might be better to wait and see if any problems arise with the device first?
I rooted mine using the One click root tool, very easy.
Got to be worth it to install ad block and sixaxis.
Like others have said, at the very minimum, unlock the bootloader (a prerequisite for rooting) right away. If you decide to unlock it later you'll have to wipe the device.
Absolutely. Just make sure you bookmark (in the cloud) how to unroot before you root (including restoring stock bootloader). It would also be smart to read what issues other folks have had, and what they did to solve their problems. (In short, always have a concrete, detailed exit plan before you start something.)
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shaneydroid said:
Might be better to wait and see if any problems arise with the device first?
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That is an excellent point I am very anzy ( think I killed that word) to unlock and root but I want to give it atleast a week to make sure there are no kinks, dead pixels or anything that would require me to return it but so far so good on my first day. I bought Titu with the $25 credit forgetting that it requires root lol but it's all good becuase now I have it for my Vivid but to use six axis you need root as well.
shaneydroid said:
Might be better to wait and see if any problems arise with the device first?
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clago87 said:
That is an excellent point I anzy ( think I killed that word) to unlock and root but I want to give it atleast a week to make sure there are no kinks, dead pixels or anything that would require me to return it but so far so good on my first day. I bought Titu with the $25 credit forgetting that it requires root lol but it's all good becuase now I have it for my Vivid but to use six axis you need root as well.
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Other than checking out the basic functions, I wouldn't bother waiting. The device is designed to be unlocked so it is not a hardware warranty issue and that is what you would be returning the device for. If you plan on having root, you need root to test the things you will be using it for.
Plus, it then allows you to back up the device so that if you do have to get another one, it is a very simple process to restore your backup and be back up and running (one of the primary reasons for root)
krelvinaz said:
Other than checking out the basic functions, I wouldn't bother waiting. The device is designed to be unlocked so it is not a hardware warranty issue and that is what you would be returning the device for. If you plan on having root, you need root to test the things you will be using it for.
Plus, it then allows you to back up the device so that if you do have to get another one, it is a very simple process to restore your backup and be back up and running (one of the primary reasons for root)
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I am actually glad to be at work for once. I am very easily swayed and am ready to unlock and root lol. I have read all the info on it and it does not seem too much of a burden compared to my atrix
I'm kind of confused, do I unlocked the bootlocker first or install 4.1.1 updates?
If I install then unlock, would the updates be gone?
Would I be able to update even after unlock and root?
i rooted even though i had already installed apps etc... its very handy to be able to use external storage and apps like titanium backup.. i dont really intend installing customs roms.. but the otg support was enough to warrant rooting for me
You can backup and restore your device with ADB. Backup, unlock, restore. You don't have to lose everything to root it later on.
hydroxyde said:
You can backup and restore your device with ADB. Backup, unlock, restore. You don't have to lose everything to root it later on.
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Yep was just about to say this, picked this method up in the OneX forums, life saver
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Okay. Well I recently rediscovered my droid OG. Got it working again (thought it was bricked), factory reset and SBF'd since root wasn't working properly and now I can't find a working root method. I can't get it to show up in my virtual machine (i have a mac) without unenabling usb debugging.
also, once i've got it rooted, can i turn all data stuff off so it's a wifi only device and it doesn't bug me about activation? also what are the most stable ROMs and what are some things i can do with this device?
This is a complete guide: http://www.mrmuh.com/2012/01/update-a-motorola-milestone-from-motorola-firmware-to-cyanogenmod-7/
Activation isn't mobile data related; it's Android default rom related. You can skip that step, but keep in mind that using Play store needs an active Google account. If you don't need play store and google apps, do not install gapps after flashing CyanogenMod
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This is a complete guide: http://www.mrmuh.com/2012/01/update-a-motorola-milestone-from-motorola-firmware-to-cyanogenmod-7/
Activation isn't mobile data related; it's Android default rom related. You can skip that step, but keep in mind that using Play store needs an active Google account. If you don't need play store and google apps, do not install gapps after flashing CyanogenMod
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That guide is for the Milestone, he is talking about the Droid.
Don't use anything built for the Milestone on your Droid - they are not compatible. Browse the forums here, and take look at this guide:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Motorola_Droid:_Full_Update_Guide
I think there's some apps to handle the root part (superoneclick? droidmod?)
Sorry I can't help more, I don't know the Droid very well and don't want to lead you the wrong direction.
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This is a complete guide: http://www.mrmuh.com/2012/01/update-a-motorola-milestone-from-motorola-firmware-to-cyanogenmod-7/
Activation isn't mobile data related; it's Android default rom related. You can skip that step, but keep in mind that using Play store needs an active Google account. If you don't need play store and google apps, do not install gapps after flashing CyanogenMod
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yes i can skip it but the problem is that every time the thing reboots it asks me to reactivate so i was wondering if there was a way to get rid of it.
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That guide is for the Milestone, he is talking about the Droid.
Don't use anything built for the Milestone on your Droid - they are not compatible. Browse the forums here, and take look at this guide:
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Motorola_Droid:_Full_Update_Guide
I think there's some apps to handle the root part (superoneclick? droidmod?)
Sorry I can't help more, I don't know the Droid very well and don't want to lead you the wrong direction.
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i actually have gotten my phone rooted and found that guide. i also found a universal wifi only flashable zip. however, the phone gets way too hot to be practical lol
jkingaround said:
Okay. Well I recently rediscovered my droid OG. Got it working again (thought it was bricked), factory reset and SBF'd since root wasn't working properly and now I can't find a working root method. I can't get it to show up in my virtual machine (i have a mac) without unenabling usb debugging.
also, once i've got it rooted, can i turn all data stuff off so it's a wifi only device and it doesn't bug me about activation? also what are the most stable ROMs and what are some things i can do with this device?
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Here is a working root method for the Motorola Droid (Its also mac friendly the guide since you mentioned you have a mac). Do not follow the guide the person above me posted it is for the GSM Motorola Milestone not your CDMA Motorola Droid 1 ! The guide will also tell you how to install the latest version of Cyanogenmod (7.2) and Google apps. What virtualization software are you using? After you root the phone the easiest way to turn off data is put it in airplane mode and just connect to your wifi network. As far as ROM's the above mentioned CM 7.2 is the most stable, as far the getting the most performance using Chainfire3D, V6 supercharger, and these build.prop tweaks. Let me know if you need any further help
thanks. i've gotten as far as rooting it and i put CM7 on it. however, i think it's got a bad battery, plus it gets really hot so i'm pretty sure i'm just going to give up on this device. Was hoping it could be useful as a media remote for my mac or something of that sort but pretty unlikely.
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thanks. i've gotten as far as rooting it and i put CM7 on it. however, i think it's got a bad battery, plus it gets really hot so i'm pretty sure i'm just going to give up on this device. Was hoping it could be useful as a media remote for my mac or something of that sort but pretty unlikely.
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If you search online you can find a droid 1 battery on amazon for under $5 :thumbup:
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hmm it's possible. i might do it if there is anything cool i can really do with it? otherwise it's not worth my time haha
Hello all.
I have a virgin HD+, so far i just enable unknown sources. At this point in time i want to go further. I really don't know what good things and limitations will introduce CM and thats why i think i might be better just to root it.
What are the suggestion go and change the OS completely or just root?
What i see good
Root:
more apps and good mods while staying original
CM:
USB OTG + root + full android
Thanks
ceag235 said:
Hello all.
I have a virgin HD+, so far i just enable unknown sources. At this point in time i want to go further. I really don't know what good things and limitations will introduce CM and thats why i think i might be better just to root it.
What are the suggestion go and change the OS completely or just root?
What i see good
Root:
more apps and good mods while staying original
CM:
USB OTG + root + full android
Thanks
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Use both to start make a bootable CM sdcard and have stock on internal then you can decide which one you like better. I personally would go with a Custom Rom it is much faster that way.
I had my HD+ unrooted on stock for week and could not stand the speed. Apps crashing constantly, extremely sluggish behavior; I couldn't stand it. I didn't have a micro to full size SD card adapter, so I ordered one of off Amazon. I rooted and then tried every ROM available for our Nooks. I think CM11 runs best.
Hi Guys,
So I recently got my hands on a kindle fire 5th gen (2015), running the latest OS 5.3.2.1.
I have read many things and many different opinions on what can and cannot be done, and ideally I am looking for a conclusive list i there is one available.
So I was searching and Root Junky has provided custom ROM's and a few other files, however, this is my understanding
CANNOT: root
CAN: downgrade to an older OS, which may allow root, but its likely it will brick it
CANNOT: unlock bootloader for custom ROM installation
CANNOT: install a custom flash zip file from the inbuilt android recovery interface
I dont know if they just happened to crash down and lockdown the fire recently, but pages such as this below, indicate it can (or at least could) be done.
https://www.thepolyglotdeveloper.com/2016/05/install-better-custom-rom-amazon-kindle-fire/
and this, indicates its probably too late since I connected it and downloaded 5.3.2.1.
http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...ot-and-install-cm-12-1-on-5th-gen-kindle-fire
So, is there a conclusive list, aside "using your tablet as out of the box" as to what you can and cannot do to modify the fire 5th gen?
I got mine right before bootloader lock running slim LP haven't updated since used flash fire on 5.1.1 to the best of my knowledge
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FF51, so very lucky, I am really envious actually.
The fire, when not suffering pixel outages, and without a dire need for GPS, makes an excellent hardware base, and from my reading, installng a custom rom would really unlock the xperience of the tablet and give it a much more competitive edge.
Out of curiosity, did you jump straight into the slim build, or did you try others?
Also I have read you cannot install CM13+ due to the limitations of the bootloader, but can you install CM12 instead (I think thats based on lollipop isnt it?) and can you do that with the stock bootloader / recovery module?
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Also I have read you cannot install CM13+ due to the limitations of the bootloader, but can you install CM12 instead (I think thats based on lollipop isnt it?) and can you do that with the stock bootloader / recovery module?
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- can not root (at present) or downgrade (ever) FireOS 5.3.2.1
- bootloader remains locked; no custom kernels or recoveries (eg: TWRP)
- rooted devices can only run Lollipop based ROMs due to kernel restrictions
- custom ROMs must be installed with FlashFire
- see forum index for further info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485
Hi every one!
Tell me please, can I use FlashFire and install CM12.1 into my Kindle 7 with 5.3.2.1 without root device?
So I can`t downgrade 5.3.2.1?
My device isn`t rooted and locked. my only achievement was the google play store
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- can not root (at present) or downgrade (ever) FireOS 5.3.2.1
- bootloader remains locked; no custom kernels or recoveries (eg: TWRP)
- rooted devices can only run Lollipop based ROMs due to kernel restrictions
- custom ROMs must be installed with FlashFire
- see forum index for further info: http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/general/index-amazon-fire-2015-t3210485
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Thanks Davey, a concise list which is great, now I just have to hope we can get the bootloader and root sorted on 5.3.2.1!
bojkoio said:
Hi every one!
Tell me please, can I use FlashFire and install CM12.1 into my Kindle 7 with 5.3.2.1 without root device?
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It looks like the answer is not at this time, as from my reading, 5.3.2.1 cannot be rooted directly with current methods, only 5.3.1 onwards.
freaky2xd said:
So I can`t downgrade 5.3.2.1?
My device isn`t rooted and locked. my only achievement was the google play store
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thats all I have managed to achieve so far, next I want to remove the adverts!
bojkoio said:
Hi every one!
Tell me please, can I use FlashFire and install CM12.1 into my Kindle 7 with 5.3.2.1 without root device?
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Nope - no custom ROMs without root.
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freaky2xd said:
So I can`t downgrade 5.3.2.1?
My device isn`t rooted and locked. my only achievement was the google play store
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No - nor likely ever. Best hope is for a root solution.
Well Sh*t
I got all 3 of my daughters a kindle fire 7" 5th gen for Christmas. I ran thru the updates and was going to install the google framework and all that goes with it to be able to install works of ahhh painting app. However, I have hit a roadblock since it seems even tho I have enabled unknown sources and rebooted each device (all running 5.3.2.1) I can download apks but when I attempt to install them, it's like the install button just doesn't register touch response no matter what direction you rotate the device. I'm not new to this, I got kindles because of how easy it was to customize a previous one my 7 year old had, and besides, $30 each was a pretty good deal. So maybe it's a software glitch in the new update, maybe it's that I just don't care enough to dig into it but that's where it stands here.
Edit: A simple reboot after allowing unknown sources fixed the problem and I completed the installation of Google play store
luck_shawn said:
I got all 3 of my daughters a kindle fire 7" 5th gen for Christmas. I ran thru the updates and was going to install the google framework and all that goes with it to be able to install works of ahhh painting app. However, I have hit a roadblock since it seems even tho I have enabled unknown sources and rebooted each device (all running 5.3.2.1) I can download apks but when I attempt to install them, it's like the install button just doesn't register touch response no matter what direction you rotate the device. I'm not new to this, I got kindles because of how easy it was to customize a previous one my 7 year old had, and besides, $30 each was a pretty good deal. So maybe it's a software glitch in the new update, maybe it's that I just don't care enough to dig into it but that's where it stands here.
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On mine I downloaded the four apks needed installed them (in proper order) using apk permission remover and it worked for me. There's a thread in the fourms I folllwed
I just used the kindle supertool to install the google framework and APK's. once click and leave it to its own devices - a tool by superjunky I think?
Anyway, as for the rotation, I havent noticed any particular problems with it, but I havent done a lot of work with testing it, I will try take a look a bit later!
i have the same problem. I managed to install Google Play but trying to side load the Popcorntime apk fails with the next and install button not registering touch input, cancel button works fine.
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i have the same problem. I managed to install Google Play but trying to side load the Popcorntime apk fails with the next and install button not registering touch input, cancel button works fine.
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Have you enabled FireOS setting that allows installs from unknown sources and then rebooted device?
Davey126 said:
Have you enabled FireOS setting that allows installs from unknown sources and then rebooted device?
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Thought I had rebooted device, done it again, now works. Many thanks
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I bought two 7" fires on the Black Friday sale to use as home automation panels in the house (with SmartThings). I installed the Play Store but found the SmartThings app was still not compatible . But really I was waiting for the new ActionTiles (web client) to come out. The one Fire upgraded to 5.3.2.1 and I haven't opened the other yet. The Play Store will no longer launch on the 5.3.2.1 tablet either. My original thought was to probably flash a new rom that is not as restrictive but doesn't look like that will happen now. Have a few additional questions for the "can" and "can't" list with 5.3.2.1 please:
1) Can the lock screen be disabled/removed?
2) Can the device be woken up by screen touch?
3) Does the non-root Play Store hack still work? (maybe I just need to redo something after the upgrade?)
4) Are there any browsers I can have auto load the ActionTiles dashboard (web page) and always keep it up and full screen?
Thanks a lot!
Coods said:
1) Can the lock screen be disabled/removed?
2) Can the device be woken up by screen touch?
3) Does the non-root Play Store hack still work? (maybe I just need to redo something after the upgrade?)
4) Are there any browsers I can have auto load the ActionTiles dashboard (web page) and always keep it up and full screen?
Thanks a lot!
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1) not completely that I have found, unless you keep the screen alive 24/7.
2) power button only however root could allow this but 5.3.2.1 doesn't support (or should I say have a method for) root at this time.
3) yes it does, I have uploaded it to about 6 different kindle recently all running 5.3.2.1
4) again root would help, however you can use automateit free or pro from plastered. It's very powerful and you should be able to achieve a lot with it. If it doesn't support it though, tasker is another powerful tool which might be worth exploring
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jeebob said:
2) power button only however root could allow this but 5.3.2.1 doesn't support (or should I say have a method for) root at this time.
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No hardware support for this capability regardless of root (re: touch to wake).
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No hardware support for this capability regardless of root (re: touch to wake).
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Thanks for confirming davey!
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Thanks for the info guys, appreciate it! This helps me understand the direction I want to take with these as alarm panels