Unlocked before rooting - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi Guys
I have unlocked the bootloader before rooting.
Now I am confused on how to proceed since nothing like this was described here.
I am using a C6906 and a tft that is not present on the site.
Thanks.

Just flash a custom kernel.
If you are on 14.2.A.1.136 firmware and just want root and recovery, you can consider DooMLoRD's kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632808
Else, pick the appropriate kernel from the Android Development or Original Android Development sections.

hush66 said:
Just flash a custom kernel.
If you are on 14.2.A.1.136 firmware and just want root and recovery, you can consider DooMLoRD's kernel: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2632808
Else, pick the appropriate kernel from the Android Development or Original Android Development sections.
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Did I lost my DRM? Should I care?

borisb said:
Did I lost my DRM? Should I care?
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Yes. Not really, but it's said that Bravia Engine, X-Reality, Bionz features are also lost due to the lack of DRM keys. But solution is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635986

And e re question.
DO you know if that kernel supports c6906?

hush66 said:
Yes. Not really, but it's said that Bravia Engine, X-Reality, Bionz features are also lost due to the lack of DRM keys. But solution is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635986
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I rooted my device.
It looks good.
However how do I bring back the features you mentioned. In the thread is mentions to install only one zip while in the original thread there are two zip files. You on the other hand mentioned 3 things. I am a bit confused.
In addition, since I did not change any rom yet, why cant I export my TA?

Saving your TA must be done before you unlock your bootloader.
I can't help you on the files that will bring back those features. You should post your questions in that thread.
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[Q] How to root Sony Xperia Z latest 4.3 update?

Hey guys, so I updated my phone here and I'm trying to root the phone. I have search the web for question but none. So, I decided to do the old method way. Can I use the 4.2.2 (2.67).tft flash it to the phone and root it. And then flash back to the 4.3 (.569).tft. Thanks. Also please provide me with some links for the root.
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Please use the search guys, this has been discussed in many threads all over here and the general section ever since 4.3 was released.
Currently, the only way to root after you have already flashed 4.3 is to unlock your bootloader and flash DooMLoRD's advanced stock kernel.
That's it, until somebody finds a way to root with a locked bootloader and that doesn't mean you have to post asking for it. Once someone has a breakthrough, they will publish their work here for certain.
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If your bootloader is unlocked you can try this. It worked for me.
http://techglen.com/2013/12/27/root-xperia-z-c6602c6603-4-3-10-4-b-0-569-official-firmware/
xukaiteo said:
If your bootloader is unlocked you can try this. It worked for me.
http://techglen.com/2013/12/27/root-xperia-z-c6602c6603-4-3-10-4-b-0-569-official-firmware/
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So, basically exactly what I already said. Flash DooMLoRD's advanced stock kernel and flash a superuser zip.
No need to give page views to yet another website that just reproduces guides/work of XDA members.
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http://techglen.com/2014/02/28/inst...6603-4-3-10-4-1-b-0-101-101-firmware-how-to/2
I'm not sure why you revived this thread that is several months old to post that.
Firstly, it's just a reproduction of information from a couple of DooMLoRD's threads from here and here on XDA.
Secondly, it directly links to his files, which is a no no.
Thirdly, there are also direct links in that article to unofficially hosted versions of Androxyde's Flashtool, which is also not polite.
Please don't push page views to places that do things like that. Thanks.
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Unlocking bootloader
kingvortex said:
Please use the search guys, this has been discussed in many threads all over here and the general section ever since 4.3 was released.
Currently, the only way to root after you have already flashed 4.3 is to unlock your bootloader and flash DooMLoRD's advanced stock kernel.
That's it, until somebody finds a way to root with a locked bootloader and that doesn't mean you have to post asking for it. Once someone has a breakthrough, they will publish their work here for certain.
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How does one unlock the bootloader ?
GayathriJeyaram said:
How does one unlock the bootloader ?
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Bootloader unlocking tutorial.
However, if you just want to root, then the information supplied in this thread is out of date now. You can use towelroot to directly root your phone without unlocking the bootloader.
kingvortex said:
Bootloader unlocking tutorial.
However, if you just want to root, then the information supplied in this thread is out of date now. You can use towelroot to directly root your phone without unlocking the bootloader.
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Will this method work for xperia zr with 4.3v android ?
GayathriJeyaram said:
Will this method work for xperia zr with 4.3v android ?
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Yes, it should.

[Q] General Root Questions

I am planning to upgrade from my current Xperia X10i to the Xperia Z1.
I was curious about the rooting process and things though. When the phone is rooted,
it allows your to add your on software right (like Astro File Manager or APKs not from the market)?
What is the bootloader for? Is it needed? I heard some people tell me that if you root the Z1 you lose the little
Sony things like the Bravia Engine and the camera. Is that so?
Thanks for your help.
necrogodomega said:
I am planning to upgrade from my current Xperia X10i to the Xperia Z1.
I was curious about the rooting process and things though. When the phone is rooted,
it allows your to add your on software right (like Astro File Manager or APKs not from the market)?
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You do not need root for this, just like on the x10, please note that you do not have to unlock the bootloader to root (In most cases)
What is the bootloader for? Is it needed?
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YES, its like saying do you need battery, without it the phone wont boot
I heard some people tell me that if you root the Z1 you lose the little
Sony things like the Bravia Engine and the camera. Is that so?
Thanks for your help.
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You lose some functionality (When unlocking the bootloader, not when rooting) but camera works the same. Its all explained here
Also, I do suggest you do a lot of reading, from your questions it appears you are not an experienced user, so please read before doing anything to your new phone
necrogodomega said:
I heard some people tell me that if you root the Z1 you lose the little
Sony things like the Bravia Engine and the camera. Is that so?
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gregbradley said:
You lose some functionality but camera works the same. Its all explained here
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No, you do NOT lose functionality just by rooting. Nothing at all.
You DO lose a bit of functionality by unlocking the bootloader. And some have reported that even though with an unlocked bootloader that while camera works, you lose the Bionz image processing. You also lose the Bravia engine.
As gregbradley said, you can root without unlocking the bootloader (usually). Rooting and bootloader unlocking are different things.
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301stSpartan said:
No, you do NOT lose functionality just by rooting. Nothing at all.
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That was in reply to his questions about unlocking the boot, you do lose some things from unlocking the bootloader, not from rooting, I edited my post to make this clearer
gregbradley said:
That was in reply to his questions about unlocking the boot, you do lose some things from unlocking the bootloader, not from rooting, I edited my post to make this clearer
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I assumed as much bc I know that you're no noob on this device. But I was just clarifying bc the question you quoted was directly about root, not bl. My assumption was that he was confusing the two terms, not you
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301stSpartan said:
I assumed as much bc I know that you're no noob on this device. But I was just clarifying bc the question you quoted was directly about root, not bl. My assumption was that he was confusing the two terms, not you
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No worries, I know. So many people get the two confused as its treated as the same thing on other devices such as Samsung
Thanks for both of your answers.
I actually fully modded my X10i just by following directions and getting some guided help
from other great uses from this site. But that was ages ago and Sony's phones have changed a bit in their make up since the X10 days.
So I wanted to know exactly what was going on. I remember unlocking the bootloader for the X10 and losing the camera, but that was fixed (I long forgot how).
I wanted to know just what was going on with the newest generations of Xperias.
Thanks for your helps. It's much appreciated.

[Q] Root and Backup TA on KK 14.3.A.0.757 (4.4.2)

Hello Everyone,
I need some help, i have KK 4.4.2 i need to Root and backup TA.
It's this possible? someone is kind enough to tell me the steps or link to do it?!
Thanks to all in advance for help and sorry, but I'm a beginner and i don't want to do damage..
1) Flash a FTF ending in .534 (Find the relevant files and instructions in the mega collection thread in the general section)
2) Install dual recovery (Find the files and instructions in the cross device development thread)
3) Flash a Rom of your choice (You will find the files and instructions in the development thread for stock based roms and in the priginal development thread for custom roms)
There is no need to back up your TA unless you are unlocking your bootloader
There is no need to unlock your bootloader is you using stock based rom.
If you do want to backup your TA then use the TA backup tool found in the cross device development thread. Do it any time after installing dual recovery and before unlocking your bootloader
Follow link today i rooted my.757
Its thread by me...Solutions by developer...HERE WE GO U GOT MANY METHODS TO DO SO....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2712774:D
thanks
Thanks To all men! Sorry But im a noob..
There is a difference from pre-rooted and stock rooted?
Ahhhh and i dont need To unlock bootloader?!? Its wonderful!!
After This Its possible To Update normally with sony companion and dont lose root?
Thanks and re-thanks for all answer To This..
Wolter91 said:
Thanks To all men! Sorry But im a noob..
There is a difference from pre-rooted and stock rooted?
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No difference
Ahhhh and i dont need To unlock bootloader?!? Its wonderful!!
After This Its possible To Update normally with sony companion and dont lose root?
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if you do an official update you will always lose root
Thanks and re-thanks for all answer To This..
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What is the Stripped ftf file for?

Hi, as the title says, what is the stripped ftf file containing? And what does it exactly?
To make a simple root to the phone isn't it enough to put any ftf on the phone via flashtool, and then open the bootloader, install a stock custom kernel and install with recovery afterwards the supersu.zip file? And then if you want close bootloader again?
I really don't understand what the stripped ftf is for? Could someone explain me that please?
And maybe the difference by this two methods?
Thanks to all.
xneo70 said:
Hi, as the title says, what is the stripped ftf file containing? And what does it exactly?
To make a simple root to the phone isn't it enough to put any ftf on the phone via flashtool, and then open the bootloader, install a stock custom kernel and install with recovery afterwards the supersu.zip file? And then if you want close bootloader again?
I really don't understand what the stripped ftf is for? Could someone explain me that please?
And maybe the difference by this two methods?
Thanks to all.
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search
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=51806817&postcount=4
So, the method i mentioned above, is the same as installing the stripped ftf? Is that correct?
But the ftf file contains a lot of .sin files and other such things. Wasn't it enough to put a .bin inside?
You should be happy that a Root exist on Xperias than Why and How. I think Developers did such a think for fun. ..lol.. I will do the same, never the easy way..
xneo70 said:
So, the method i mentioned above, is the same as installing the stripped ftf? Is that correct?
But the ftf file contains a lot of .sin files and other such things. Wasn't it enough to put a .bin inside?
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Because you cannot add anything to a FTF file. It all needs sony signatures. So you can remove files but not add them.
eclyptos said:
You should be happy that a Root exist on Xperias than Why and How. I think Developers did such a think for fun. ..lol.. I will do the same, never the easy way..
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I think it would be better if more people asked why and how. That way people learn and we get more contributors and developers and less people just coming here thinking its an online support forum.
I congratulate people that want to know more. Please do not forget this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
This post embodies what this forum is about, especially this bit
As a Development Forum we are just as much (if not more) about the journey. I've read so many comments like "I don't have time to read all of the threads" or "I don't care how it works, just that it does". These very statements are contrary to the heart & soul of XDA-Devs and that is why the backlash is so strong.
Let me be very clear on this: IF YOU DON'T CARE ABOUT UNDERSTANDING THE JOURNEY THEN YOU PROBABLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
XDA-Devs is about developers & hackers helping each other and working together to get the most out of our devices by understanding them better than most.
XDA-Devs is not about helping everyone who wants a "Kewl bit of kit" make their phone better than the guy next to him.
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If everyone was Luke you eclyptos there was no robot on any device.
Gregbradley am i right with the method mentioned above? I could root any Sony upgrade di i unlock bootloader install an existing recovery kernel che supersu file and finally relock che boot leader?
Isnt this method a lot easier?
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If you do that you will end up in a bootloop
If you relock the bootloader then your phone will only boot with a completely stock kernel. If you had flashed a kernel with recovery in (DooMKerneL or [NUT]s XZDR Kernel) then, although it is a kernel for stock firmware it is actually a customised kernel.
The easiest way to get root on stock 757 (With a locked bootloader) is as follows
1) Flash a 534 FTF
2) Install Dual recovery
3) Flash a 757 pre rooted rom of your choice.
The easiest way to get root on a stock 757 (With an unlocked bootloader) is as follows
1) Flash a stock based kernel (DooMKerneL or [NUT]s XZDR kernel)
2) Flash SuperSU.zip from chainfire
So if i am on 757 and ubl and then relock bootloader i will end up in a bootloop?
Don't really understand why?
My feeling is that with ubl the battery drains faster. When i had 680 i came up for 1 day with battery. Now i don't come over 15h. Si that just placebo?
Che nuts root method works for lbl and it uses a doomkernel. So where's the difference?
xneo70 said:
So if i am on 757 and ubl and then relock bootloader i will end up in a bootloop?
Don't really understand why?
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You will be in a bootloop only if you have flashed another kernel other than stock
If you are on stock kernel you will not get a bootloop. The reason being, locked bootloaders can only boot with a stock kernel.
My feeling is that with ubl the battery drains faster. When i had 680 i came up for 1 day with battery. Now i don't come over 15h. Si that just placebo?
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Yes, bootloader status has no impact on performance or battery drain, only flashing a custom kernel with OC/UC/UV can do that
Che nuts root method works for lbl and it uses a doomkernel. So where's the difference?
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No it doesn't. Locked bootloader cannot even flash doomkernel, let alone boot with it
Bit i can have root with lbl. So this is the difference i am missing.
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xneo70 said:
Bit i can have root with lbl. So this is the difference i am missing.
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Because unlocking the bootloader is only one method to gain root, there are a lot of other ways that do not need you to unlock the bootloader, like the one I said above
gregbradley said:
I think it would be better if more people asked why and how. That way people learn and we get more contributors and developers and less people just coming here thinking its an online support forum.
I congratulate people that want to know more. Please do not forget this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2031989&postcount=45
This post embodies what this forum is about, especially this bit
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opss...am I banned?
Bit i see only one method mentioned here that is ti go to 547 and root....
But opening BL could be easier.
I don't really understand what stripped ftf does. And btw i see only one root mentioned here.
The ftf does not contain a kernel and you cannot change the content of a ftf so whats the deal with it?
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xneo70 said:
Bit i see only one method mentioned here that is ti go to 547 and root....
But opening BL could be easier.
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it can be, but some bootloaders cannot be unlocked. But if you are going to unlock the bootloader then you might as well do it that way.
I don't really understand what stripped ftf does.
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It puts you onto the correct stock kernel after updating from a lower version. No need to do it if you are already on a 757 FW
And btw i see only one root mentioned here.
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here are 2 separate ones...
gregbradley said:
The easiest way to get root on stock 757 (With a locked bootloader) is as follows
1) Flash a 534 FTF
2) Install Dual recovery
3) Flash a 757 pre rooted rom of your choice.
The easiest way to get root on a stock 757 (With an unlocked bootloader) is as follows
1) Flash a stock based kernel (DooMKerneL or [NUT]s XZDR kernel)
2) Flash SuperSU.zip from chainfire
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Its a pleasure talking with a patientefull guy like you.
So the stripped ftf is only the kernel. Then the question should be why don't insert the kernel directly in the flashable zip like in the cm or slimkat instead of heaving to flash it afterwards? Is it because with closed BL you cannot overwrite the kernel in recovery?
Oh and btw the root method with obl is not so good explained in the guides.
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xneo70 said:
Its a pleasure talking with a patientefull guy like you.
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No worries
So the stripped ftf is only the kernel.
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Well, there are some other 757 things being updated as well, not just the kernel. Here is a screen shot of what the stripped FTF contains. http://prntscr.com/3enxbm
Then the question should be why don't insert the kernel directly in the flashable zip like in the cm or slimkat instead of heaving to flash it afterwards? Is it because with closed BL you cannot overwrite the kernel in recovery?
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You are catching on, that's exactly the reason
Oh and btw the root method with obl is not so good explained in the guides.
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Well, this method does not really need much explaining, its the main root method for any android device.
Flash a custom kernel with ro.secure=0 instead of ro.secure=1, then install the superuser binaries etc.
It is mentioned in doomlords thread. And all over the general threads. In this device forum we generally just talk about methods for this device, not general methods that work for all devices
If in doubt, flashing a custom kernel is always the easiest way to get root, as long as you can open or want to open the bootloader.
So i don't understand if unlock BL is the easiest way to obtain root why are so few making it?
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Because not everyone can unlock their bootloader. Some carriers have locked the bootloader in a way that means its impossible to unlock.
Also, it voids your warranty, and some people want to keep it.
And, the other way without unlocking the bootloader, only takes 5 minutes anyway, so its not really a pain.
gregbradley said:
Because unlocking the bootloader is only one method to gain root, there are a lot of other ways that do not need you to unlock the bootloader, like the one I said above
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Correct me if i'm wrong but you can have the root access and LBL with [NUT]'s method. I was thinking that unlocking BL was only if you want to flash a custom kernel like DoomLord etc...
QualQuek said:
Correct me if i'm wrong but you can have the root access and LBL with [NUT]'s method. I was thinking that unlocking BL was only if you want to flash a custom kernel like DoomLord etc...
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Yes, unlocking the bootloader is the only way to flash custom kernels, which also happens to be a fool proof way to gain root on every android device on any android version. The only way to patch that is for the carriers to lock the bootloader in a way that means it cannot be unlocked.
However, [NUT]s rom uses a stock kernel so can be flashed on a locked bootloader, you only need root for that.

e6553 Xperia Z3+ Root?

hey there, im new with this phone, i used to have the z1 but just today i bought this cool phone, the question is, Can i root my phone without unloncking my bootloader? i search in all sections but i dont really understand. Its just a simple question though. thanks for your answer
JesusBass said:
hey there, im new with this phone, i used to have the z1 but just today i bought this cool phone, the question is, Can i root my phone without unloncking my bootloader? i search in all sections but i dont really understand. Its just a simple question though. thanks for your answer
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Simple answer. Until now, no way to root without unlocking the bootloader.
thepipespecialist said:
Simple answer. Until now, no way to root without unlocking the bootloader.
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even Kingroot ?
abo hani said:
even Kingroot ?
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Doesn't work.
Does anyone know something we could do about this device?
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Does anyone know something we could do about this device?
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It's been explained in some posts by our fellow devs in some of the threads - the answer is: no root without UB, because the kernel has a so-called 'verity check', which detects any system modifications and panics if it finds one, and for this to be overcome, there are already some kernels which bypass this check, but as you know, you can't install a custom kernel without unlocking the bootloader.
However, I saw some hopeful post about M, something about an exploit being available for half-root, enough to backup your TA and unlock bootloader with the option of re-locking it afterwards without losing your DRM keys.
airlessproject said:
It's been explained in some posts by our fellow devs in some of the threads - the answer is: no root without UB, because the kernel has a so-called 'verity check', which detects any system modifications and panics if it finds one, and for this to be overcome, there are already some kernels which bypass this check, but as you know, you can't install a custom kernel without unlocking the bootloader.
However, I saw some hopeful post about M, something about an exploit being available for half-root, enough to backup your TA and unlock bootloader with the option of re-locking it afterwards without losing your DRM keys.
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WOW really so there is hope can you link to this progress?

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