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[Q] s-off/ bootloader/ custom rom

Hello people.
Before i get a comment Like ''google it", i want to clarify that i think this thread will be useful to many people here. Why? Cuz i strongly beleive that many many galaxy users wont be grtting the gs4. No need to state the reasons.
Therefore, i bet many people, including me, are noob with htc devices and i would appreciate any help since rooting on gs3 was fairly easy compared to htc.
I know that with s-on i cant install custom roms , but i can still root it right? If i want to install a sense based ROM, do i need s-off? Or its only for aokp, cynogemod, etc?
For recovery mode, do i need s-off, bootloader unlocked? Or both?
Bootloader: does the international version comes unlocked?
Last question: who had htc one x or other previous 2012 htc devices, which ROM was more stabled? Batterywise? Speed?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry if any stupid questions made. But im rly noob.
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ksarius said:
Hello people.
Before i get a comment Like ''google it", i want to clarify that i think this thread will be useful to many people here. Why? Cuz i strongly beleive that many many galaxy users wont be grtting the gs4. No need to state the reasons.
Therefore, i bet many people, including me, are noob with htc devices and i would appreciate any help since rooting on gs3 was fairly easy compared to htc.
I know that with s-on i cant install custom roms , but i can still root it right? If i want to install a sense based ROM, do i need s-off? Or its only for aokp, cynogemod, etc?
For recovery mode, do i need s-off, bootloader unlocked? Or both?
Bootloader: does the international version comes unlocked?
Last question: who had htc one x or other previous 2012 htc devices, which ROM was more stabled? Batterywise? Speed?
Thanks in advance.
Sorry if any stupid questions made. But im rly noob.
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With S-ON you CAN install custom ROMs AND root the device.
Only the UNRELEASED HTC DEV edition (only an US version has been announced so far) comes with an unlocked bootloader.

SteelH said:
With S-ON you CAN install custom ROMs AND root the device.
Only the UNRELEASED HTC DEV edition (only an US version has been announced so far) comes with an unlocked bootloader.
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You just made me confused then. Whats the purpose of s-off then?
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ksarius said:
You just made me confused then. Whats the purpose of s-off then?
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With S-Off you can flash the kernel through your phone alone(without relying on fastboot on PC). And you can downgrade hboot, basebands etc.
In short S-Off is a more deeper level of tweaking to a point that you could brick your device permanently. Bootloader unlocking is just... unlocks your bootloader. And the bootloader has the capability to mess with the kernel and system partition.
If you're using a Windows.
S-Off = Administrator privileges
Bootloader unlock = standard user
Locked bootloader = Guest user

Riyal said:
With S-Off you can flash the kernel through your phone alone(without relying on fastboot on PC). And you can downgrade hboot, basebands etc.
In short S-Off is a more deeper level of tweaking to a point that you could brick your device permanently. Bootloader unlocking is just... unlocks your bootloader. And the bootloader has the capability to mess with the kernel and system partition.
If you're using a Windows.
S-Off = Administrator privileges
Bootloader unlock = standard user
Locked bootloader = Guest user
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Thx! That clears my doubts. Só with s-off i Can also flash custom ROM without PC?
Now I realize why ppl say sg3 is easier.
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Riyal said:
With S-Off you can flash the kernel through your phone alone(without relying on fastboot on PC). And you can downgrade hboot, basebands etc.
In short S-Off is a more deeper level of tweaking to a point that you could brick your device permanently. Bootloader unlocking is just... unlocks your bootloader. And the bootloader has the capability to mess with the kernel and system partition.
If you're using a Windows.
S-Off = Administrator privileges
Bootloader unlock = standard user
Locked bootloader = Guest user
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You can flash a kernel/boot.img without fastboot or a pc even if you are s-on. There is an updater-script mod to accomplish this.
S-Off = security check off. Meaning you can flash radios/fw etc that are not signed with HTCs private key.

Do we get updates rafter we unlock bootloader? If not - will simply locking the bootloader help to get updates?

mih3y said:
Do we get updates rafter we unlock bootloader? If not - will simply locking the bootloader help to get updates?
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No you will not get ota updates if you unlock the bootloader.
But I don't know what will happen if you re-lock it!
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I will just try to buy the dev. Edition from US so I don't have to worry about unlocking lol.
My next step will be to learn how to root it and flash new ROMs
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Sadly I won't be getting the dev edition since I'm not willing to pay $650 for a phone. Upgrading for $300 is a whole lot more appealing than paying $650. Hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock the bootloader for the AT&T locked version since obviously it won't be getting unlock through HTC Dev.
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xXxG0dzRAgexXx said:
Sadly I won't be getting the dev edition since I'm not willing to pay $650 for a phone. Upgrading for $300 is a whole lot more appealing than paying $650. Hopefully someone will figure out how to unlock the bootloader for the AT&T locked version since obviously it won't be getting unlock through HTC Dev.
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Why not? I saw at the blog that people could unlock from their website?
Also for me 650 is cheap. Do you know how much is an iPhone 5 64gb in my country? 1200 us dollar Lil.
You are luck to get a phone for only 300
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ksarius said:
Why not? I saw at the blog that people could unlock from their website?
Also for me 650 is cheap. Do you know how much is an iPhone 5 64gb in my country? 1200 us dollar Lil.
You are luck to get a phone for only 300
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Yeah I know some people got it worse. :/ but also a iPhone here for 64gb is 800 I believe. Still a big price gap between 800 and 1200 though.
The reason it won't be unlockable is because AT&T in the past had always had locked bootloaders that weren't unlock able byHTC Dev. I think the One X got it after a few months but I'd prefer not to wait. But for 300 vs 650 I can wait a bit. As long as it doesn't take like a year.
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What does "unlocked" mean for the htc one dev edition?

I have the 64 gb htc one dev edition and I thought I understood the unlocked part, but then I saw a bunch on here about unlocking bootloaders on the dev edition and that got me confused. Is the unlocked part referring to the ability to take it between carriers or the state of the bootloader?
Assuming I root my one, I still want dev updates (ota rather than flashing roms) but I also don't know what happens if I am rooted and then take an ota update. Finally, since I won't be flashing, I don't need to unlock my bootloader, right? Thanks!

Mindstar1 said:
Is the unlocked part referring to the ability to take it between carriers or the state of the bootloader?
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Both.
Some people re-lock their bootloaders at some point and then "re-un-lock" later on, but in general you shouldn't have to worry about unlocking the dev edition in either sense of the word .
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ROMS for ATT Locked BL?

Like the title says, which ROMS are compatible with locked bootloaders? or none? xD
thx for your help

Sesamechicken said:
Like the title says, which ROMS are compatible with locked bootloaders? or none? xD
thx for your help
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some roms state that they need a unlocked bootloader but i don't see why they wouldn't work on a locked bootloader. you just need to have safestrap installed so you can flash the roms.
But really there is no reason for roms on this phone. Remove the bloatware via Titanium backup and then install xposed framework with gravity box and you can customize your phone to your liking.

There is. I need the international language option that the carrier free Kit Kat provides. My nexus 5 has all languages available. My AT&T Moto X has 4, count them, 4 languages available.
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Unlocking Locked Bootloader?

Hi guys, I have a C6906 from Rogers that I SIM unlocked for AT&T. I checked and the bootloader is locked, is there any way to by pass the lock or is it totally locked for good?

I'm wondering the same... Bought my Z1 full price from Rogers and now I'm stuck with locked bl
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Yeah sucks pretty bad... I'm thinking there is but since most developers got the phone unlocked no one has really looked into it

Look at this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2653896
there is a hope but very small :/
and there is a few devs only to work with it soooo mabe dotations will do ? hmm

Auctionedllama said:
Hi guys, I have a C6906 from Rogers that I SIM unlocked for AT&T. I checked and the bootloader is locked, is there any way to by pass the lock or is it totally locked for good?
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If you're talking about a "bootloader unlock allowed: no" related issue, then your only possible solution involves the test-point above the battery (as outlined in this post) and some custom software by the developers of SEtool, and I have no idea if this will actually work, but most likely nothing else ever will.

Need help

Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.

David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked

adity said:
I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked
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Eh, thanks I was hoping to get it from motorola cause sunshine isn't working either cause it requires root, link of a working root method for locked boot loader would be much appreciated.
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David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.

KidJoe said:
No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.
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Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
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David Neon said:
Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
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Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918

KidJoe said:
Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918
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Thanks bro, guess I am stuck with a chained phone
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