Hi guys, I know this has been thousands of times, but if our device doesn't allow boot loader unlock (for example mine is on EE) is there any hope what so ever of a way around this? I'm pretty sure someone is going to say something along the lines of "IT'S IMPOSSIBLE STOP ASKING IT CAN'T BE DONE" - if that's the case, would you care to explain why?
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Well the answer is not at the moment don't know if anyone is working on it... and from what I saw so far in order to hack it you need to use the test point method but in order to do so you need to open your phone...now are u going to take that risk because I won't haha
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cippi21 said:
Well the answer is not at the moment don't know if anyone is working on it... and from what I saw so far in order to hack it you need to use the test point method but in order to do so you need to open your phone...now are u going to take that risk because I won't haha
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What do you mean by open your phone? Like take it apart?
Yea I should of explained more haha...in order to get to the test point you need to take off the back of the phone I don't know exactly where it is or even if it's possible yet...
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cippi21 said:
Yea I should of explained more haha...in order to get to the test point you need to take off the back of the phone I don't know exactly where it is or even if it's possible yet...
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HA yeah forget that For a company that supports development as such as Sony apparently does, this is kinda silly.
Is not sonys fault tho is the carrier that wants them locked...pointless again because no average person knows about bootloader locking or rooting yano
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cippi21 said:
Is not sonys fault tho is the carrier that wants them locked...pointless again because no average person knows about bootloader locking or rooting yano
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I agree. I even rang EE and asked them. They and no clue what I meant. Sad really.
I wonder if you got a letter from EE stating that they allow you to unlock your bootloader and then ask Sony to make your bootloader unlockable will that work lol....I know it will take time and maybe u will waste your time but if you really want to unlock your bootloader is worth a shot haha
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At least here in Spain, you can unlock your bootloader if you first pay for the simcode unlock to use the phone with any carrier. Then you can email Sony with this information, asking them to leave your phone in the same condition (bootloader unlockable) as any "unlocked sim" phone (I don't know the correct word, sorry)
Then Sony will take your phone as if it was going to be repaired and after a few days you'll get your phone back.
I know this is possible in Spain but I don't know about other countries; maybe it depends on each law system.
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At least here in Spain, you can unlock your bootloader if you first pay for the simcode unlock to use the phone with any carrier. Then you can email Sony with this information, asking them to leave your phone in the same condition (bootloader unlockable) as any "unlocked sim" phone (I don't know the correct word, sorry)
Then Sony will take your phone as if it was going to be repaired and after a few days you'll get your phone back.
I know this is possible in Spain but I don't know about other countries; maybe it depends on each law system.
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That's a very good point I wonder if its like this in England or any other country ....maybe it is.... this is another suggestion to add to the bootloader unlock NO dilemma
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cippi21 said:
That's a very good point I wonder if its like this in England or any other country ....maybe it is.... this is another suggestion to add to the bootloader unlock NO dilemma
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Hmmm. Even so. I think i'll be getting on the new HTC One band wagon when it comes around. I want to like the Z1, but the software is, at least in my opinion, nothing less that horrible. Also the glass front and rear is a disaster if you're a mechanic.
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Also the glass front and rear is a disaster if you're a mechanic.
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If you are mechanic then the HTC One will be scratched forever with the plastic one. I think on Glass you can use some degreasing.
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If you are mechanic then the HTC One will be scratched forever with the plastic one. I think on Glass you can use some degreasing.
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Had a HTC One before my Z1 and it faired waaaay better.
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Had a HTC One before my Z1 and it faired waaaay better.
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Just the anti shatter plastic scratched or worse?
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I think the speaker on my One has blown. The sound is very distorted even when on low volumes. Could this be a software issue or is it most likely to be hardware?
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the latest version of TrickDroid so I'm not sure where I stand with the warranty.
Thanks is advance.
On HTC warranty - most probably it is void now. You can call them and check if they are willing to fix a rooted phone.
In EU (and I assume you are in UK) you have Statutory Warranty - 2 years.This is regulated by consumer regulations and this comes from EU. This one is NOT void through rooting - http://piana.eu/root. This said - I am currently having serious problems with fixing my S3 this way in Norway (legislation is identical) and I have to go through consumer counsel/tribunal which takes up to 6 months in total...
If you're in a country where covered by appropriate legislation, a Sale of Goods Act law will almost certainly a problem like this so soon after purchase, especially considering you're not at fault.
Check out if your country has such legislation which covers you, and if so ask for a replacement under that legislation. If not, eh... ask politely?
I think the speaker on my One has blown. The sound is very distorted even when on low volumes. Could this be a software issue or is it most likely to be hardware?
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the latest version of TrickDroid so I'm not sure where I stand with the warranty.
Thanks is advance.
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Forgive my ignorance as I have only had Samsung phones the past few years but, shouldn't you just be able to flash back to stock and unroot? I wouldn't think it would be too difficult. However, as I said, I have only had experience with Samsung phones for a while.
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Forgive my ignorance as I have only had Samsung phones the past few years but, shouldn't you just be able to flash back to stock and unroot? I wouldn't think it would be too difficult. However, as I said, I have only had experience with Samsung phones for a while.
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Yes I agree. Flash stock and get a replacement
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Forgive my ignorance as I have only had Samsung phones the past few years but, shouldn't you just be able to flash back to stock and unroot? I wouldn't think it would be too difficult. However, as I said, I have only had experience with Samsung phones for a while.
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The bootloader is nlocked through HTCDev so they have the IMEI. Also when you relock it says 'relocked' instead of 'locked' (exactly like when you mess with pc odin and you flash back to a samsung rom it says 'official' but the flash counter isn't reset). To be able to get back a 'locked' status (so the equivalent of triangle away on samsung devices) you need s-off.
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The bootloader is nlocked through HTCDev so they have the IMEI. Also when you relock it says 'relocked' instead of 'locked' (exactly like when you mess with pc odin and you flash back to a samsung rom it says 'official' but the flash counter isn't reset). To be able to get back a 'locked' status (so the equivalent of triangle away on samsung devices) you need s-off.
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Unlocking doesn't void the warranty more than likely. At least here in the U.S they don't care
It depends on the carrier
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Dump your hboot and upload it here. Then tell me what should be written there instead of relocked I can rename it for you
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Dump your hboot and upload it here. Then tell me what should be written there instead of relocked I can rename it for you
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Magic isn't allowed on XDA.
I'm gonna report on this tomorrow... I got a couple of pops in my speaker when playing YouTube videos on the lowest volume at first. For some reason when I played music at full volume there were no problems but as soon as I put the volume lower and played a YouTube video every know and then i would get a pop sound.
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I just took then phone back to a Phones4U shop and they replaced it there and then. It would seem if the phone develops a fault within 28 days of purchase you can take it back to the retailer instead of HTC. Most retailers wouldn't have a clue if you have unlocked the bootloader and flashed custom Roms so it didnt matter.
As I couldnt find the correct RUU I just took it into the shop with TrickDroid's Rom still installed and they didn't question it at all!! :laugh:
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I just took then phone back to a Phones4U shop and they replaced it there and then. It would seem if the phone develops a fault within 28 days of purchase you can take it back to the retailer instead of HTC. Most retailers wouldn't have a clue if you have unlocked the bootloader and flashed custom Roms so it didnt matter.
As I couldnt find the correct RUU I just took it into the shop with TrickDroid's Rom still installed and they didn't question it at all!! :laugh:
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Yours might possibly be a newer batch phone now. Can u check for the iconic 'gap' at the top and bottom or for any overhang.
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Yours might possibly be a newer batch phone now. Can u check for the iconic 'gap' at the top and bottom or for any overhang.
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Oh my god didn't notice that before. Yes there is a small gap at the top, very minor at the bottom. Cant see any overhang.
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Oh my god didn't notice that before. Yes there is a small gap at the top, very minor at the bottom. Cant see any overhang.
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OK they are definitely still shipping first batch phones. Anyone wanting exchange should still wait.
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I have the same issue on my phone. Tried the included Thor movie, speakers crackle at any volume. So many issues with the phone! Still love it, will arrange for a return and exchange hopefully with a second batch phone.
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I think the speaker on my One has blown. The sound is very distorted even when on low volumes. Could this be a software issue or is it most likely to be hardware?
I have unlocked the bootloader and flashed the latest version of TrickDroid so I'm not sure where I stand with the warranty.
Thanks is advance.
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Hi there, do you have the youtube link for the crack sound? I want to try with my New One estimate to arrive tomorrow.
After further investigation, the sound problem only shows up when certain videos are played (hi-def MKVs I think). Sound is fine otherwise, so I think it is a software issue. Can anyone else try THOR on HTC Watch, at the beginning of the film, when it should be silent, do you hear the speakers crackle even at low volumes?
On my replacement handset the bottom speaker has totally gone. No sound coming through it at all. Back to Phones4U :crying:
Wth, how am I suppose to buy this phone online when there are so many problems detected????? I need to buy 4 phones online and the main problem is that I won't even be able to return in case of problems since im from faaar away where HTC has long gone.
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Wth, how am I suppose to buy this phone online when there are so many problems detected????? I need to buy 4 phones online and the main problem is that I won't even be able to return in case of problems since im from faaar away where HTC has long gone.
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Wait a while until the new batches are out and most problems should be sorted by then.
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I literally just opened my new XZ,and I thought the tray was like a dummy card. I don't know what I did with it... but once I figured out what it was for it was too late. Wtf do I do now...
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I literally just opened my new XZ,and I thought the tray was like a dummy card. I don't know what I did with it... but once I figured out what it was for it was too late. Wtf do I do now...
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Go find it.
contact your local Sony or go to a Sony store
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/support/contact-us/
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Get one from here
$7... from hong kong... hahaha wow I can't believe this. I'll try and contact Sony. Thank you!
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$7... from hong kong... hahaha wow I can't believe this. I'll try and contact Sony. Thank you!
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haha, you better try your luck with sony.
I did the same thing and with my excitement put the SIM card into the SIM slot had to call sister to drop off her tweezers. As silly as it is to do I'm sure we are not alone lol.
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I did the same thing and with my excitement put the SIM card into the SIM slot had to call sister to drop off her tweezers. As silly as it is to do I'm sure we are not alone lol.
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How did you rectify it?
I did the same thing, i went to the retailer and claimed it was missing.
Got a New phone lol.
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How did you rectify it?
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Found the SIM tray and it took me a good 20 min to get the SIM out tweezers kept slipping I pushed it in pretty good
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I did the same thing, i went to the retailer and claimed it was missing.
Got a New phone lol.
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:
:silly::silly:
Seriously gonna consider just stealing one from a model...
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Seriously gonna consider just stealing one from a model...
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Wow. Just face up to your mistake and buy a new one. Petty theft will gain you nothing apart from a record if you're caught.
Anyway, do you live in some sort of junk heap where things are swallowed up and lost forever as soon as you put them down? Just retrace your steps and you will probably find it.
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Buying one isn't the problem, waiting ages to get it is! I opened the box in a car, and my friend who owns the car insists it's not there.
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Buying one isn't the problem, waiting ages to get it is! I opened the box in a car, and my friend who owns the car insists it's not there.
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Still, that is your fault. Stealing is never the solution.
Have you tried calling a Sony support centre and asking if they stock them?
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Buying one isn't the problem, waiting ages to get it is! I opened the box in a car, and my friend who owns the car insists it's not there.
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Some guy in this very thread mentioned that he got a new phone and the "defective" one was sent back to Sony when he lost his SIM card tray. Have you given this a chance?
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Some guy in this very thread mentioned that he got a new phone and the "defective" one was sent back to Sony when he lost his SIM card tray. Have you given this a chance?
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So just fraud instead of theft?
Personally, if I had made a stupid error like this, I would just bite the bullet and wait for a new sim tray to arrive if a Sony repair centre couldn't help.
Maybe I just have a different set of morals to the majority these days though.....
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My friend lost his SIM card try but put the sim card in any way with out a tray and it worked till he got a new one.
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So just fraud instead of theft?
Personally, if I had made a stupid error like this, I would just bite the bullet and wait for a new sim tray to arrive if a Sony repair centre couldn't help.
Maybe I just have a different set of morals to the majority these days though.....
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Not if he's honest with them, who knows, maybe they see this all the time and just want to do their customer a service?
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Not if he's honest with them, who knows, maybe they see this all the time and just want to do their customer a service?
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Yes, maybe. I agree in that regard.
The person you were talking about was not honest with them though. He said he "claimed" that it was missing.
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Not if he's honest with them, who knows, maybe they see this all the time and just want to do their customer a service?
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It was a private sale, I didn't get it from a store.
@kingvortex, no one cares dude
I have q quick question? I ordered the T-Mobile Sony Xperia Z1s and had it shipped express mail so I should have the phone tomorrow. However, I wanted to know if it was safe to use the Xperia Z1 method to root the phone, and use the same Roms on the Xperia Z1s?
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I have q quick question? I ordered the T-Mobile Sony Xperia Z1s and had it shipped express mail so I should have the phone tomorrow. However, I wanted to know if it was safe to use the Xperia Z1 method to root the phone, and use the same Roms on the Xperia Z1s?
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I am also curious of this. I have put in a request for a forum specific to this device and regional carrier. I don't know if that usually works or how long it takes but I am looking to contribute in any way possible.
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I have q quick question? I ordered the T-Mobile Sony Xperia Z1s and had it shipped express mail so I should have the phone tomorrow. However, I wanted to know if it was safe to use the Xperia Z1 method to root the phone, and use the same Roms on the Xperia Z1s?
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Rooting shouldn't really be unsafe or anything, but at the moment I don't think it'll work, as the Z1S is on 4.3 after all, and I don't think that Vroot will work with it now. As for roms, I would advise against flashing anything at the moment.
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Rooting shouldn't really be unsafe or anything, but at the moment I don't think it'll work, as the Z1S is on 4.3 after all, and I don't think that Vroot will work with it now. As for roms, I would advise against flashing anything at the moment.
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Thank you both very much!
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Thank you both very much!
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Once theres an initial root you should be able to back up your TA partition and subsequently unlock bootloader to root any future firmwares, relocking bootloader after rooting.
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Once theres an initial root you should be able to back up your TA partition and subsequently unlock bootloader to root any future firmwares, relocking bootloader after rooting.
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Unfortunately we will likely face a bootloader that cannot be unlocked.
However, if it can I am very curious as to how you go about this.
I absolutely hate taking updates... still haven't taken an update from months ago on my Nexus 7 because I will lose root. It was very difficult to unlock and root my nexus 7, considerably more than rooting my old carrier tied motorola handset, which I didn't expect at all considering I'd used all the same tools to flash and root before.
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Unfortunately we will likely face a bootloader that cannot be unlocked.
However, if it can I am very curious as to how you go about this.
I absolutely hate taking updates... still haven't taken an update from months ago on my Nexus 7 because I will lose root. It was very difficult to unlock and root my nexus 7, considerably more than rooting my old carrier tied motorola handset, which I didn't expect at all considering I'd used all the same tools to flash and root before.
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The nexus 7 is one of the easiest devices to root. It may have been difficult when the device was first released, but I promise it's gotten much easier.
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The nexus 7 is one of the easiest devices to root. It may have been difficult when the device was first released, but I promise it's gotten much easier.
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I think it may have been more that my desktop wasn't properly recognizing the device. Had to jump through all sorts of hoops to get it to work last February. But it's unlocked and rooted now... with an outdated OS. I currently don't have internet service at home. I'll tackle the update and re-root when I've got a nice fast connection.
Would taking the update affect ever re-lock the bootloader?
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I think it may have been more that my desktop wasn't properly recognizing the device. Had to jump through all sorts of hoops to get it to work last February. But it's unlocked and rooted now... with an outdated OS. I currently don't have internet service at home. I'll tackle the update and re-root when I've got a nice fast connection.
Would taking the update affect ever re-lock the bootloader?
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I don't think so, the bootloader on my N7 has never locked itself unless I used wugfresh's toolkit to do so.
According to GSMarena Z1S is the same as international ones except LTE
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Lancez said:
According to GSMarena Z1S is the same as international ones except LTE
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It isn't, the Z1S has a plastic frame instead of aluminium, it's larger, and has different LTE frequencies to the C6903 (International LTE Z1).
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It isn't, the Z1S has a plastic frame instead of aluminium, it's larger, and has different LTE frequencies to the C6903 (International LTE Z1).
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Good, It won't be bent like international version then. FYI, Z1S got 5" screen too.
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Lancez said:
Good, It won't be bent like international version then. FYI, Z1S got 5" screen too.
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I am aware it has the same screen, I was referring to the Z1S being taller than the C6903, regardless of screen size.
And what would a metal frame have to do with bending? Obviously if you apply so much force that you bend the device, then you're already damaging it, whether it has a metal or a plastic frame...
Source:
Xperia Z1 International LTE (C6903) white paper
Xperia Z1s (C6916) white paper
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I am aware it has the same screen, I was referring to the Z1S being taller than the C6903, regardless of screen size.
And what would a metal frame have to do with bending? Obviously if you apply so much force that you bend the device, then you're already damaging it, whether it has a metal or a plastic frame...
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It seems to me like cheap aluminum was the cause of bending. I've never had any bending/cracking issues on any of my plastic phones I owned.
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It seems to me like cheap aluminum was the cause of bending. I've never had any bending/cracking issues on any of my plastic phones I owned.
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Even if a metal bends easily, it doesn't spontaneously bend, nothing does...
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Even if a metal bends easily, it doesn't spontaneously bend, nothing does...
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The heat could cause bending. Anyway, since you are an owner of Z1, how would you rate your device at this point? Thinking about getting Z1S for my wife.
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The heat could cause bending. Anyway, since you are an owner of Z1, how would you rate your device at this point? Thinking about getting Z1S for my wife.
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Best smartphone I have ever had, literally. Though if I'd been on the market right now I'd have had the Z1 Compact.
Only thing bad with it would be the screen quality (no issues head on, but tilt it and colours start to wash out) and maybe the loudspeaker being a bit tinny/quiet (product of the waterproofing would be my guess).
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Best smartphone I have ever had, literally. Though if I'd been on the market right now I'd have had the Z1 Compact.
Only thing bad with it would be the screen quality and maybe the loudspeaker being a bit tinny/quiet.
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Thank you for your info. Looks like I'll have to come to this side of XDA on daily basis.
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It just came in the mail!
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I called Sony Support and asked them exactly what breaks my warranty, and to my suprise they told me that both rooting and/or unlocking bootloader will nullify my warranty.
I thought that rooting without touching the bootloader meant that the warranty was intact.
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I called Sony Support and asked them exactly what breaks my warranty, and to my suprise they told me that both rooting and/or unlocking bootloader will nullify my warranty.
I thought that rooting without touching the bootloader meant that the warranty was intact.
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You loose the warranty once you modify the system, it's doesn't matter if bootloader is unlocked or nah, but you can root and if you want to go back to warranty, only flash you carrier firmware, I did that, I don't know how's you carrier working.
PD: sorry for my bad English.
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I can't exactly tell about the bootloader, but you can root your phone without any worries about warranty. Just make sure that after you return it for warranty that you flash an FTF, so the phone would be exactly like stock. That includes wiping all partitions when flashing an FTF in flashtool.
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Ask your self this, why should they offer you a warranty if you screw with their software/firmware?
"Hey look jonny, I can overclock my Z1 to 2.8 GHz and over volt the GPU... Hey jonny, my phone wont boot any more, any idea what's wrong with it?"
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Magnussen moss act is why
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scoobdude said:
Magnussen moss act is why
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"protect consumers from deceptive warranty practices.*"
How does that apply to a user being a f-wit. Does apple replace your ifone if you drop it in the crapper while taking a nude selfie?
don't even bother with a reply as you must be from the US where it is ok to sue your parents for not buying you the latest iBone or not paying for you to go to varsity
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"protect consumers from deceptive warranty practices.*"
How does that apply to a user being a f-wit. Does apple replace your ifone if you drop it in the crapper while taking a nude selfie?
don't even bother with a reply as you must be from the US where it is ok to sue your parents for not buying you the latest iBone or not paying for you to go to varsity
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Calm down bro don't take it seriously and you are correct that Sony is providing good software/hardware why should we mess with it I want to add those port apps from z2 but it needs root so I'm not installing it anyway
I'll wait for official kitkat
Sorry, it must be my anti US day of the month
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It does not protect the consumer from abuse claims. But rather instances of hardware failure not being covered because of an installed app. Or the nv flash going bad because of root.
In easier terms let's use a car as an example. If your manufacture says you have to change your oil at said interval they cannot deny your claim to a bad wheel bearing or your compressor going out etc.
Another example is with computers. When I used to support them for one of the big manufacturers we would not support them if they installed any other os. But once they reinstalled them we would.
So while rooting and unlocked bootloaders CAN damage things you can change the burden of proof and you still have rights.
So yes I am from America, and I modify almost everything. Hardly use warranties. But am by no means stupid. So please keep your assumptions out of this discussion
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It does not protect the consumer from abuse claims. But rather instances of hardware failure not being covered because of an installed app. Or the nv flash going bad because of root.
In easier terms let's use a car as an example. If your manufacture says you have to change your oil at said interval they cannot deny your claim to a bad wheel bearing or your compressor going out etc.
Another example is with computers. When I used to support them for one of the big manufacturers we would not support them if they installed any other os. But once they reinstalled them we would.
So while rooting and unlocked bootloaders CAN damage things you can change the burden of proof and you still have rights.
So yes I am from America, and I modify almost everything. Hardly use warranties. But am by no means stupid. So please keep your assumptions out of this discussion
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Issue is that after locking an flashing stock, we should still have DRM licences. It is stupid to loose them by unlocking bootloader. We bought the software with the phone. I do not loose my microsoft licence if I install linux and then I put windows back.
And think of how much money it would save them if they put an easy way to save/recovery them out. Even if it required a call or email with verification etc.
But most companies declare you do not buy software but rather license the user of it...stupid IMHO as open source usually had better results
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craoul said:
Issue is that after locking an flashing stock, we should still have DRM licences. It is stupid to loose them by unlocking bootloader. We bought the software with the phone. I do not loose my microsoft licence if I install linux and then I put windows back.
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From this day on, promise me that you will start using "lose" instead of "loose"
loose
adjective, loos·er, loos·est.
1. free or released from fastening or attachment: a loose end.
2. free from anything that binds or restrains; unfettered: loose cats prowling around in alleyways at night.
3. uncombined, as a chemical element.
4. not bound together: to wear one's hair loose.
5. not put up in a package or other container: loose mushrooms.
blueether said:
Sorry, it must be my anti US day of the month
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look here mr new zealand,
If it wasn't for the USA you wouldn't be typing in this forum now ,would you!
remember the USA made the internet
oh,don't tell me the someone from new zealand would have done it,yea right
bigcid10 said:
look here mr new zealand,
If it wasn't for the USA you wouldn't be typing in this forum now ,would you!
remember the USA made the internet
oh,don't tell me the someone from new zealand would have done it,yea right
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but it took a brit to give the 'internet' it's WWW, and we gave you the split atom for your beloved Nucs.
Hello guys!
If I root my phone without unlocking the bootloader, what limitations do I have to accept?
And, it I unlock the bootloader, how can I first of all backup my phone in order to return to stock anytime I need to? Will flashing with flashtool do the trick, with an unlocked bootloader?
Will hijack this post for a question, when i use flashtool to unlock boot loader it says hold menu button but where is the menu button because i had to power off. Cant figure that one out.
Mstruyf said:
Will hijack this post for a question, when i use flashtool to unlock boot loader it says hold menu button but where is the menu button because i had to power off. Cant figure that one out.
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use volume up button to get into fastboot mode
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/fastboot-buttons
So I got this phone thinking the bootloader would be unlockable... To my surprise I checked and it says no. I still submitted the unlock request through Sony and they generated a code that was e-mailed to me. So confused. The phone is used so does this mean it is already unlocked?
A code will always be generated, but you will be unable to use it
Another example of a generic FW, sim unlocked, carrier free phone that has a bootloader that cannot be unlocked.
gregbradley said:
A code will always be generated, but you will be unable to use it
Another example of a generic FW, sim unlocked, carrier free phone that has a bootloader that cannot be unlocked.
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Well that sucks! So no hack or way around it?
quailallstar said:
Well that sucks! So no hack or way around it?
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Unfortunately No.
eclyptos said:
Unfortunately No.
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Well this is a huge disappointment. Makes me want to sell the phone now and get something else.
quailallstar said:
Well this is a huge disappointment. Makes me want to sell the phone now and get something else.
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This situation can be very frustrating but actually you was not informed about that before brought the Z1, if you will know it you will bring one with Unlockable Bootloader, right? I guess you cannot go back to your provider and switch with another one. If you really give up then I will considering to buy Z2.
eclyptos said:
This situation can be very frustrating but actually you was not informed about that before brought the Z1, if you will know it you will bring one with Unlockable Bootloader, right? I guess you cannot go back to your provider and switch with another one. If you really give up then I will considering to buy Z2.
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Well I purchased the phone used from someone who has never even heard of XDA. I got it off Swappa at a great price and couldn't pass up it being sold. I mean it is a nice phone and I love the quality of the materials (glass/aluminium). I might just root it and keep the phone. Change the stock launcher and live with it until the Z2 price drops a little.
Would Sony ever consider unlocking the Z1 boot-loader if we complain enough?
quailallstar said:
I might just root it and keep the phone. Change the stock launcher
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You don't need root for that
Would Sony ever consider unlocking the Z1 boot-loader if we complain enough?
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No chance
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You don't need root for that
No chance
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I know I don't need root for the launcher but I use Nova Launcher and that one does. Plus I like to remove pre-installed crap to make the phone faster