Whenever I use chrome on my nook hd plus (running the nook stock software) and press the home button the home screen has to reload it takes like 5 seconds load. It happens with some other apps to but mostly just chrome. Running nova launcher fixes this but I would like to use the stock launcher. I get the nook isn't the most powerful device on the market but
With 1.5ghz dual core proccesor with 1gb of ram it shouldn't have to do that. I've tried task managers on auto kill and even ram managers and apps that modify the built in android task manager (although I dont have root) I tried dolphin browser which seemed to work fine but would rather use chrome. Any way to fix this?
its memory.
BrandonB1312 said:
Whenever I use chrome on my nook hd plus (running the nook stock software) and press the home button the home screen has to reload it takes like 5 seconds load.
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Most likely its ram.
Android will unload/suspend background apps when running out of memory. As we all know browsers are memory intensive applications.
in fact the more capable your browser the more memory it will need for pages, images, plugins, additional processes such as flash, js, etc.. .
from the android dev site. application life cycle page , stopped section.
Stopped
The activity is completely obscured by another activity (the activity is now in the "background"). A stopped activity is also still alive (the Activity object is retained in memory, it maintains all state and member information, but is not attached to the window manager). However, it is no longer visible to the user and it can be killed by the system when memory is needed elsewhere.
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Thanks gonna use nova launcher since it dosent take as much ram.
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Hi, I'm looking for some advice on how to force my Dream to keep certain apps in memory, no matter what.
I'm currently running Dwang's rom 1.13, and the apps that I use all day long are Chompsms, Gmail and Dolphin browser.
I believe my rom uses compcache as standard, however time and again I'll go to open up my mail or sms, and i get a blank screen for 1-2 sec, as the app loads into memory. I don't even generally use other memory-hogging apps (like camera, maps) at all, so I can't understand why my most used apps are not always in memory? I only have 1 or 2 webpages open in Dolphin as well, and when I go back to that, generally it has to reload one or other of the pages.
Advanced Task Manager shows that I currently have 21mb free memory.
Can anyone suggest a way to keep the apps I want in memory permanently?
Thanks!
Old question I know, but most answers only mention memory handling. When memory runs out, Android closes background apps automatically.
Fine, but what about all the CPU the app takes up while loaded in background?
I just made a little test with a few games (only apps I have that will actually use up all memory). Memory-wise it works fine, if I load to many the games in the background will get unloaded. But if I only load up Worms and press "home" to get it into the background, it will still be loaded and take ~30% CPU
If I use "back" most apps will really close, but some are really annoying to close this way since you have to go through all the pages you have viewed (like IMDb).
The browser will not even close this way so I might as well just press "home".
What's the solution? I dont want to find out the specific way to exit for every single app, I want a universal solution. And "home" doesnt seem to be that universal as I hoped.
Problem with multitasking : everytime I'm using the browser and switch to some other app and switch back to browser, browser restarts it self
I'm using nik_v4
use a different browser like opera,boat browser,firefox etc.
it depends, the system might be aggressively freeing up memory once you switch the application (that is if you are low on free memory) or another thing, it depends how you switch the application. in this case, a browser, you usually click Home and start another app (that send the current application in pause mode, in the background), but if you clicked Back to get back to the homescreen, the system will interpret this as a kill application sign, it will not keep it in the background. i'm not giving alternatives just trying to explain how stuff works. check if you are low on memory, try it with different browsers (i recommend Dolphin browser).
facing similar problem with firefox
andrei.je said:
it depends, the system might be aggressively freeing up memory once you switch the application (that is if you are low on free memory) or another thing, it depends how you switch the application. in this case, a browser, you usually click Home and start another app (that send the current application in pause mode, in the background), but if you clicked Back to get back to the homescreen, the system will interpret this as a kill application sign, it will not keep it in the background. i'm not giving alternatives just trying to explain how stuff works. check if you are low on memory, try it with different browsers (i recommend Dolphin browser).
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i switch between apps using long press of home button still browser keeps closing and restarting i always have atleast 150 mb memory free
suggest a few memory hogging apps i'll remove them if i have
at least 150mb free means you don't have a memory problem. but this behavior is a bit odd. it might be from the current kernel you are using and it might be implementing a very aggressive memory freeing task manager (killing any application as soon as it is sent in the background). if you have installed a market task manager or any memory freeing app i suggest you uninstall them. you might also wanna try flashing a new kernel and see if it changes anything (make sure new kernel is compatible with your current ROM). i'm using niks 4.0 ROM with RCMIX-Vivo kernel and i don't have this problem.
I know that android is very good at handling background processes and ram but I have so many apps that I don't use at all. They consume big amount of ram and for instance, sometimes browser loads pages again when I get back to it from another app. I assume this is because of ram. So I guess, if I can shut down some running apps in the background, available ram would be more.
I can see them at settings-apps-running(or cached processes).
For example, right now in "running" section I have 9 processes and 3 of them are poweramp, awesome beats, accuweather.com and in "cached processes" I have 10 processes and 6 of them are beautiful widgets,calendar storage,google account manager, google search, calendar, google play store. Other processes are system services that I have no problem with. When I go to developer settings-background process limit and block them, there are no cached processes anymore but that probably has a side effect. I wish I could choose which apps I want in the background.
I can shut down these apps manually but every time I restart the phone, they are there again. How can I stop them?
if you rooted, you can use Autostarts or ROM toolbox from the playstore. it can change the receivers of the apps not to start at boot
CooLasFcuK said:
I know that android is very good at handling background processes and ram but I have so many apps that I don't use at all. They consume big amount of ram and for instance, sometimes browser loads pages again when I get back to it from another app. I assume this is because of ram. So I guess, if I can shut down some running apps in the background, available ram would be more.
I can see them at settings-apps-running(or cached processes).
For example, right now in "running" section I have 9 processes and 3 of them are poweramp, awesome beats, accuweather.com and in "cached processes" I have 10 processes and 6 of them are beautiful widgets,calendar storage,google account manager, google search, calendar, google play store. Other processes are system services that I have no problem with. When I go to developer settings-background process limit and block them, there are no cached processes anymore but that probably has a side effect. I wish I could choose which apps I want in the background.
I can shut down these apps manually but every time I restart the phone, they are there again. How can I stop them?
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The simple answer is that you don't need to stop them!
As you say, Android is already very good at keeping track of background processes, to the extent that if a new program needs more RAM, Android itself will kill a background process that hasn't been used for a while to free up RAM for the new program.
The Cached processes screen SHOULD be full of recently used programs; it shows that Android is doing what it is supposed to do and is shifting inactive processes out of active RAM in case you want to load it again, without completely dumping the process memory.
Now, as for the side effect you mentioned, that would be a significant hit on battery life. By holding programs in RAM as it is supposed to do, the OS can load the program quickly and cleanly and more efficiently by simply reading the RAM rather than reading flash, writing to RAM, then reading from RAM. The general mantra for UNIX based systems is that unused RAM is wasted RAM.
Another thing to note is that if you do not close tabs when switching active programs (including going to homescreen) then the Browser is designed to hold that tab in memory. Even if you close the Browser (excluding closing the tab specifically with the "little x"). Even if you reboot the damn phone, it will still load the tabs/pages you had open last. The pages are not held in memory as such, just what was open and what tab order, so if you do open the browser after a while, it will load the last page from scratch.
TL;DR version: The running and the cached processes will remain exactly where they are until a new program needs more RAM than is available, at which point Android will kill something to make room. You do not need to do this manually. It will cause more power drain by making very inefficient use of RAM/Flash memory. Empty RAM is wasted RAM.
whilst Chaos is right, I notice severe performance drops when ram is filled, despite Androids theoretical advantage. It doesnt work...
Best to prevent from loading altogheter.
Root, lose warranty, backup apps, uninstall or freeze apps so the bloatware is removed.
For others, change autostart settings in Romtoolbox. So they wont start on boot.
Search for safe stuff to delete. There are lists for that
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Or just dont install the apps that you dont really need.
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LoVeRice said:
Or just dont install the apps that you dont really need.
Via GtN7000
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Lol, even then you might still need to remove bloatware lol
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Thanks so much for detailed answers.
Hello together,
I searched through the whole forum but I did not find any thread regarding the problem I have found.
I own a Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937). It was flashed with WP8 version from APAC.
I updated it to WP 8.1 via developer preview app.
Language and region is set to german/germany.
I have a 32 GB SD card.
Now its working almost as expected and with known issues.
But one thing is very bad: This device has almost 2 GB of usable ram. But when I minimize an app via Windows Button (e.g. Internet Explorer; only one tab opened) it constantly reloads the whole page after only 30 seconds of being minimized.
The same for other apps like amazon kindle.
It feels like an android device with only 512 MB of ram.
It only costs seconds. But IE eats all my contingent given by my provider. I have LTE enabled and the page is loaded so fast, that I cannot stop it.
With WP8 the browser stayed in memory even for days without reloading the pages.
So I expect that behaviour from WP8.1 too.
Reboot helps only for couple of minutes.
Even with all other apps closed (hold back button and swipe down the app to the bottom) that behaviour is there.
Someone here with equivalent experiences? Any help?
You can test this: Open IE. Load a website. Minimize via Start Button.
Open other apps and use them for a couple of minutes.
Afterwards open IE and look if the page is beeing reloaded.
Is there any method known to look, if there is any app that blocks the memory? Like a task manager?
Maybe it's only an error that happened during the update!?
MarioOrlando said:
Hello together,
I searched through the whole forum but I did not find any thread regarding the problem I have found.
I own a Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937). It was flashed with WP8 version from APAC.
I updated it to WP 8.1 via developer preview app.
Language and region is set to german/germany.
I have a 32 GB SD card.
Now its working almost as expected and with known issues.
But one thing is very bad: This device has almost 2 GB of usable ram. But when I minimize an app via Windows Button (e.g. Internet Explorer; only one tab opened) it constantly reloads the whole page after only 30 seconds of being minimized.
The same for other apps like amazon kindle.
It feels like an android device with only 512 MB of ram.
It only costs seconds. But IE eats all my contingent given by my provider. I have LTE enabled and the page is loaded so fast, that I cannot stop it.
With WP8 the browser stayed in memory even for days without reloading the pages.
So I expect that behaviour from WP8.1 too.
Reboot helps only for couple of minutes.
Even with all other apps closed (hold back button and swipe down the app to the bottom) that behaviour is there.
Someone here with equivalent experiences? Any help?
You can test this: Open IE. Load a website. Minimize via Start Button.
Open other apps and use them for a couple of minutes.
Afterwards open IE and look if the page is beeing reloaded.
Is there any method known to look, if there is any app that blocks the memory? Like a task manager?
Maybe it's only an error that happened during the update!?
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Windows phone 8.1 multitasking now is similar to windows 8 multitasking, that is, an app still runs in background for about 10 seconds after you leave the app.
The system also does a lot better at suspending apps and saving their state upon tombstone, so even if you leave the app and said app is automatically killed because you opened too many apps, the system will restore its original state when you open it again.
I do not have any issues with internet explorer running in background after i disabled all background communication for it from settings.
mcosmin222 said:
Windows phone 8.1 multitasking now is similar to windows 8 multitasking, that is, an app still runs in background for about 10 seconds after you leave the app.
The system also does a lot better at suspending apps and saving their state upon tombstone, so even if you leave the app and said app is automatically killed because you opened too many apps, the system will restore its original state when you open it again.
I do not have any issues with internet explorer running in background after i disabled all background communication for it from settings.
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Hi,
thanks for your answer.
I know these new behaviour and read about the differences.
Whats strange now: I uninstalled the app "Battery", deleted temporary files, made a system backup to OneDrive, copied some files from phone to my PC, installed the Microsoft App "Diagnosis" to give a message to the developers and now this strange behaviour is away so far.
Ok, I have to consider again, that this version is only a "Developer Preview".
When I have news about this problem, I'll give a message in this thread.