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It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928
I couldn't agree more.
never used it thank goodness.........
Never happened to me
EDIT: Sorry for my rudeness, anyways, people should know that it's not the greatest idea to use rom manager with cm5/cm6. It has already been established that it may be a bad idea to use the program with the following roms. Sorry I get really cranky in the mornings, not the best idea to come onto the forum with some old news :|
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Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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I have never used it and I agree with him just from all the posts I have seen related too it messing up people's recovery images. Does that make me stupid?
I've used it for a few weeks now with no problems on my MyTouch on 1.6, 2.1, and 2.2 ROMs. Not saying others aren't having legitimate issues, but people in general are much more likely to post negative reports than positive ones.
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Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.
protomanez said:
Never happened to me, you're obviously too stupid to use it.
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Please lead us retartds through your install procedure, current rom, set-up so we can be as learndededed as you. I have had cm5&6 with ra installed upon initial set up. No swap/ noext1234, stock mt3g spl 2.22.23.02 radio. Nothing special. I even did it with the donut mytouch rom w/root.I only use basic apps, nothing that would interfere with recovery. to me it seems that when u flash a cpl different roms a day is when it hangs up. I can usually get the phone to boot back up, which gives me a chance to get back into rom manager and flash ra recovery back to the phone. the last cpl times I had to wipe cache before it would actually flash RA recovery. so basically if u can get the phone to boot past the splash screen go to rom manager and flash the **** out of ra recovery until it works. First we found out that clockwork didnt like flashing zip's and backups on low batteries 30% and lower. then the always fun recoverly log issue(cant recall the exact error right now) and of course the cant get to recovery issue. I know it's not a widesporead problem but it is a problem that renders phones useless until u can find someone nice enough to help u and not treat u like a retard. Not everyone knows as much about phones as you guys do....congratulations you know all there is about phones. go learn some ****ing human decency, if u have nothing helpful to say then shut up.
have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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hmmmmm. Maybe since its flashing clockwork from inside rom manager is what might be killing it for some of us. tonight I will try just flashing clockwork outside of rom manager and see how that goes. i like clockwork's set up and it is easy to use, just kinda freaks me out when my recovery goes bad.
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have been using it without Rom manager and highly disagree with the poster.doing it 'wrong' or without knowing 'how to' can certainly cause problems but that should not be described as the problem of the product. lot of people can not use nuclear power correctly (look at the USA) and now we call describe nuclear power as menace which is lame :/
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but at the same time thats why it is a part of rom manager. one click recovery flasher. to make it "easy". i highly doubt you can go into rom manager and incorrectly flash clockwork recovery. its a one click thing
it's also spoken out at many threads at xda that flashing the recovery from within the OS causes issues, so trying to install the recovery from PC or even RA1.7 should be a better option.
I'm considering that you already know the commands for that. better luck! remember, clock work will allow you to flash anything without signing - meaning? you can edit any update.zip to your liking and then forget about all the trouble of signing it before flashing. a simple toggle should do the trick while you are in recovery mode happy flashing.
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It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.
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It is either a case of your phone, sd card setup/left over files etc..
I use rom manager on every phone I root with no problems since its release. 6 G1's, 3 Fender LE's, 7 Mytouch 1.2 and 4 Evos. Sometimes, it takes couple seconds to show up or go into recovery, but that doesnt mean its gone. Recovery cant just dissapear without something either trying to over write it or it being erased.
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Im gonna give it one more try. I dont think I have ever.....
flashed clockwork from rom manager
reboot into recovery from rom manager right then (read some where that on some roms when u reboot to recovery using the regular way it might mess up....not sure about this one).
wipe everything (clockwork wipes more that amon ra)
reflash any rom
in my case... above steps then in this order
flash fireats custom mtd part 1.1
super E
Gapps
overclock update
fireats custom mtd part 1.2
anyone see a issue with what I have done so far??
Ok I will post back when clockwork fails again.....and if not f-in sweet
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It does not like our phones. Has great options but.......it sucks. Everytime I flash it on my phone my recovery goes bad in a cpl days. Never had this problem with RA. Do a search rom manager pops up all over the place with bad recoveries. Stop using it ppl. Im sure ill get flamed for this but oh well. Kinda tired of reading of noobs that fall victim to a .apk that seems very easy to use until it craps out and then your stuck at the airport with a bad recovery and ADB no where in sight. Or even if u had ADB you still have no clue how to fix it!!!!!!!!!!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762325
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=7443928&highlight=revovery#post7443928
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hahahahaha good one. Not to stupid to use it. the ui is very simple and easy to use. Flash clockwork or flash alternate. What im to stupid to do is figure out how to fix it after it kills recovery. but thank you for your input, I'm sure it will help someone out.
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You found your answer within the first example link that you provided, look at post #3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=742007
rom manager is not for idiots like yourself. rom manager is a great tool for many different phones. sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it. an advanced user (who its made for) can still flash recovery via fastboot, and have all the helpfulness and easy ui of rom manager and easy access to cm nightlies.
dont knock a dev who works on many different phones, and dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.
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sometimes it doesnt flash a recovery correctly maybe it be poor service to download the recovery, or low memory when flashing it.
dont rely on noob application reports and bad reviews. anyone who finds rom manager crap is just a poor android user.
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i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)
I agree it is an 'easy' shortcut that is not the best decision.. Like for example I think it killed my phone. I repaired permissions via rom manager, rebooted as it told me to and now my g1 wont boot past the g1 logo. I could install from a backup but the backup is 1+ month old (my error oops!). I am hoping to find a solution... Really dont wanna wipe everything..
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i didn't want to get into this pointless discussion, but you have made a ****ty argument for rom mgr, you have confirmed that it doesn't work properly in certain circumstances, which is a good enough reason to not bother with it.
also, why shouldn't we rely on bad reviews? that's the point of a review, to give some idea about what experience to expect.
(i have never used it myself, amon ra recovery is enough for me.)
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I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.
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I made a perfectly good argument. Yes it can "mess up", but thats not at the fault of the app. It's at the fault of the phone. There are things that can go wrong that Koush cannot control. It is for ADVANCED users as a quick helpful UI for recovery-based operations. People that don't know what they're doing, or only half-way do shouldn't be using it. However, too many Android users *think* they are advanced enough, yet 5 minutes after using it, post a "PLEASE HELP, PHONE IS BROKEN", because they DON'T know what they're doing.
I'm not saying that all bad reviews are missguied, but I can assure that 90% of them are from noobs that have no idea what they're doing. They rooted their phone because someone told them it was cool, and they have absolutetly no idea whats in their hands and what they can do with it. Let alone, how to properly work it and fix problems. It's easy as pie to point out noobs from those crowds of users, those 3 links in the OP's post are all perfectly examples. People who came to XDA, signed up, never posted anything, then messed up and came crying to the board asking for help (usually in Android Development because people like them, and the OP too, don't how to to post in the correct section).
So for the last time, if you don't know what you're doing on your phone, don't do it. Just because you have root, and an app says "for root users", doesn't mean its for you, which EVERYONE assumes it is. It's piss-poor users like that, that ruin app reviews and the name of Android everywhere.
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Get a clue , its a program any gimp, including you, can install from the market, it is made in such way ...the fact that it dosent fail to write the recovery in fastboot mode means nothing!
This program shouldnt let the G1 user flesh any rec image. Till that happens it is the DEV's fault. Shouldnt be in the G1 CM's either.
Hey guys i am starting this thread here as i find there are so many people asking questions and bricking their phones.I just want to help out people and save them from bricking their phones..
i have tried all Froyo based roms available for the captivate.i have good experience in rooting,clockworkmod and flashing roms.I would like to help out all new members here as much possible because just 2 months back i had trouble finding out things...
So what are you guys waiting for ask away....!
P.S:also i kindly request the other senior members and developers here to correct me if i am wrong anywhere and ya i dont want any donations....
Hey, I'm working on something with a similar spirit as this.
A work in progress: self help brick recovery guide
If you would want help out with this. I believe that it could help the q&a and other section of the captivate thread a lot by reducing the number of brick threads
If either of you have experience with web coding, perhaps it would be worthwhile to make up a page that has an interactive checklist of brick steps. Sort of a step-by-step troubleshooter.
For example, the first page could just be the question about whether the phone shows any signs of life at all or not, then have a page with selectable items about the Rom/kernel/modem setup, then move into more specific items.
See the attached zip for what I'm talking about.
speedy_11 said:
Hey, I'm working on something with a similar spirit as this.
A work in progress: self help brick recovery guide
If you would want help out with this. I believe that it could help the q&a and other section of the captivate thread a lot by reducing the number of brick threads
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Same spirit here mate i am with you lets do it....!
But i will be focussing on problems of members other than bricking and also i believe prevention would be better than cure....!
jmtheiss said:
If either of you have experience with web coding, perhaps it would be worthwhile to make up a page that has an interactive checklist of brick steps. Sort of a step-by-step troubleshooter.
For example, the first page could just be the question about whether the phone shows any signs of life at all or not, then have a page with selectable items about the Rom/kernel/modem setup, then move into more specific items.
See the attached zip for what I'm talking about.
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I saw the zip and got what you are saying i liked it. I have a decent hold over html & java so i must be able to create that....!
But i will need space to host it....!
Perhaps in lieu of hosting space, save it as an all-in-one zip file and post it on here. You wouldn't need a large amount additional space (I assume) as there probably wouldn't be a huge need for images. If that's the case, it would be all text, which should be fairly small.
jmtheiss said:
Perhaps in lieu of hosting space, save it as an all-in-one zip file and post it on here. You wouldn't need a large amount additional space (I assume) as there probably wouldn't be a huge need for images. If that's the case, it would be all text, which should be fairly small.
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true it wont be a big zip file......!
I will create it and post it here
Wow jmtheiss you took my idea to the next level, i never though of making it interactive. But that my be the key that really will make it work.
sorry adicool I'm no good with HTML or coding i will have to leave that to you. But I have a knack for graphic design. Plus I can find and collect the images that could be use as examples (ex. like a soft brick screen)
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Wow jmtheiss you took my idea to the next level, i never though of making it interactive. But that my be the key that really will make it work.
sorry adicool I'm no good with HTML or coding i will have to leave that to you. But I have a knack for graphic design. Plus I can find and collect the images that could be use as examples (ex. like a soft brick screen)
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i just created a test version to see if i still remember html just have a look at this attachment below....!
open the test.html first i have just created a working link for rooting others i will be doing soon,tell me what you think of it....!
adicool said:
i just created a test version to see if i still remember html just have a look at this attachment below....!
open the test.html first i have just created a working link for rooting others i will be doing soon,tell me what you think of it....!
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Looks good to me. Clean, simple, easy to follow.
A good starting point, if you need any help feel free to ask.
Thought here: The one package is good. I'm also thing that we can have each section posted package as a separate package too (along with the whole package). So those who only need one thing like rooting the can just download that section
Hi! I'm new to the forums and need some help. I have stock I897UCKB1, sucessfully rooted and unlocked it. I would like to try out some ROMs, CM7 first. How should i start? I assume i have Eclair/Froyo bootloaders, right? I've installed ROM Manager Premium, clicked flash clockworkmod, and to reboot to recovery but it's only stock recovery. How should i proceed? Also i need some enlightment on bootloaders: if i flash the newest GB ATT bootloaders will every ROM work with it? Thanks in advance!
Go to the general section, there is a thread called "sticky roll-up" in there is a link to a thread called "e: signature verification failed" that is the work around you need for cwm (or any zip) to flash
Or you can flash a froyo kernel that has cwm baked in with odin like speedmod...
I wouldn't mess with bootloaders st this point in your flashing experience that its the only time you risk a real hard brick do leave those alone until you know for sure what you're doing.
I totally forgot about muse, so here's my on take of the guide.
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Hi! I'm new to the forums and need some help. I have stock I897UCKB1, sucessfully rooted and unlocked it. I would like to try out some ROMs, CM7 first. How should i start? I assume i have Eclair/Froyo bootloaders, right? I've installed ROM Manager Premium, clicked flash clockworkmod, and to reboot to recovery but it's only stock recovery. How should i proceed? Also i need some enlightment on bootloaders: if i flash the newest GB ATT bootloaders will every ROM work with it? Thanks in advance!
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I would advice you to first try flashing a few froyo based roms just to gain experience in flashing after that you can move over to GB
as told by my friends here there is a thread here that fixes that cwm problem .!
If you still need help or cant find it do post here and i would be more than happy to help...!whatever you do just dont mess with bootloaders atm as they can cause your device to be bricked...
I would say start off first by flashing cognition 4.5.3....!
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A good starting point, if you need any help feel free to ask.
Thought here: The one package is good. I'm also thing that we can have each section posted package as a separate package too (along with the whole package). So those who only need one thing like rooting the can just download that section
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Hmmm well that can be done !
i have college today i will get started with the html again once i come back....
lets finish this thing soon!
Edit:just finsihed the package for 2.2 only,have a look at the attachment,also its not complete yet but it had basic things...!
studacris said:
Go to the general section, there is a thread called "sticky roll-up" in there is a link to a thread called "e: signature verification failed" that is the work around you need for cwm (or any zip) to flash
Or you can flash a froyo kernel that has cwm baked in with odin like speedmod...
I wouldn't mess with bootloaders st this point in your flashing experience that its the only time you risk a real hard brick do leave those alone until you know for sure what you're doing.
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adicool said:
I would advice you to first try flashing a few froyo based roms just to gain experience in flashing after that you can move over to GB
as told by my friends here there is a thread here that fixes that cwm problem .!
If you still need help or cant find it do post here and i would be more than happy to help...!whatever you do just dont mess with bootloaders atm as they can cause your device to be bricked...
I would say start off first by flashing cognition 4.5.3....!
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Thanks, i was able to get CWM to work with speedmod kernel, so i take your advice now and try out some froyo roms!
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Thanks, i was able to get CWM to work with speedmod kernel, so i take your advice now and try out some froyo roms!
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Cool.....!
dont forget to follow the instructions before flashing...
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Edit:just finsihed the package for 2.2 only,have a look at the attachment,also its not complete yet but it had basic things...!
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The information looks good, i saw that on the flash back to stock you didn't put hemdiall. Since linux and mac users cant use odin
Did you take a peak at my attempt with muse?
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The information looks good, i saw that on the flash back to stock you didn't put hemdiall. Since linux and mac users cant use odin
Did you take a peak at my attempt with muse?
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oops i forgot that, i dont use mac so i missed it lol....!
yeah i saw your attempt it was decent enough mate,if you want to try more software try adobe dreamweaver it will help you develop web pages without html
dreamweaver would be great but my current computer wouldn't be able to handle it and i dont have the money for it. muse is free until the final product is done that why im using it.
i pm'ed you but i dont know if it sent
For a person with little or no knowledge on doing all the flash stuff with the Tablets..would you say this app would help alot? Or doing it without the app is better?
I seen the video of someone using it..on a phone tho...seems nice. Didnt see VEGAn TAB anywhere in the options thing. That would be able to find this also in "Download ROMS" right? Thanks for the help.
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For a person with little or no knowledge on doing all the flash stuff with the Tablets..would you say this app would help alot? Or doing it without the app is better?
I seen the video of someone using it..on a phone tho...seems nice. Didnt see VEGAn TAB anywhere in the options thing. That would be able to find this also in "Download ROMS" right? Thanks for the help.
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Rom Manager has been known to hose some users gTabs making them very difficult to fix.
Well, the recovery hooks used by the ROM manager app cause problems with the GTablet... I recommend avoiding it!!
Yea....after all the good i read about it....i saw all the bad stuff. Too bad...that would have been the thing for me to be brave and flash. With that it made it seem pretty easy. Oh well. Gotta learn the real way soon.
Anyone on here use this with the GTab and had success???? Alot say this is not good with the GTab. Some say it is. Man...
its not worth using on the gtablet. Trust me, once you figure out how to do a few other things, you wont need this tool anyways. Start looking through this site. You will learn a lot. http://viewsonic-gtablet-for-dummies.webs.com/
ROM Manager is just a GUI interface to installing .zips (ROMs, updates, etc..).
However, it requires a specific version of Clockworkmod Recovery to work.
If you already have Clockworkmod Recovery on your Gtablet, it's just as easy to use it manually than hoping the Rom Manager specific Clockworkmod Recovery doesn't brick your tablet.
Donwload the ROM you want, power off and boot in to clockworkmod recovery (Hold Volume + while powering on) and select the install .zip from sdcard. Just browse to the downloaded .zip and install it.
It's best to also do a factory reset before installing a rom....and making a backup before you flash something new in case you don't like it or it has issues.
Earlier it had a lot of problems....I think they've resolved most of those issues (Rom Manager now lists the Gtablet SMB_A1002 when flashing the recovery), but it's still so simple to flash manually and not worry the risks.
What recovery do you guys prefer?
I've seen a lot of Vivids with WCX these days.
Post your experience with each one!
Stock CWM ftw
CWM still has a lot of issues. It's been causing quite a few hard bricks. Anyone that still has it, I would highly suggest switching to WCX recovery. I have yet to try TWRP but from what I've heard from all the devs, it still has a few kinks. I wouldn't recommend anything other than WCX at the moment.
I don't really see it as whats "preferred". You don't want something on your device that can potentially cause a hard brick. A recovery is something you don't use very often, so it's best to go with the one that just works.
Nice answer, right now I'm on the stock RUU ICS rom with an unlocked bootloader and I want to flash the WCX recovery, I just have to put the wcxrecovery.img in the microSD root, enter in Hboot, select recovery and then flash it with "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.exe"?
Do I have to make a backup of something after doing this?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
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Nice answer, right now I'm on the stock RUU ICS rom with an unlocked bootloader and I want to flash the WCX recovery, I just have to put the wcxrecovery.img in the microSD root, enter in Hboot, select recovery and then flash it with "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.exe"?
Do I have to make a backup of something after doing this?
Thanks in advance for your answer.
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Actually, just put the wcxrecovery on your computer where you have adb and fastboot set up. If you don't know where that is, just download the wcxjb root zip from the guide in my signature and unzip it to your desktop. Enter hboot on your phone and select fastboot. Shift + right click on your computer inside the folder you just unzipped and select open a command window here. THEN, type in the command "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.img" and you're good to go.
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Actually, just put the wcxrecovery on your computer where you have adb and fastboot set up. If you don't know where that is, just download the wcxjb root zip from the guide in my signature and unzip it to your desktop. Enter hboot on your phone and select fastboot. Shift + right click on your computer inside the folder you just unzipped and select open a command window here. THEN, type in the command "fastboot flash recovery wcxrecovery.img" and you're good to go.
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Crap I moved back to linux after I s-off'ed, is there anyway I can use fastboot without having to dig out my aging Pentium 4?
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Crap I moved back to linux after I s-off'ed, is there anyway I can use fastboot without having to dig out my aging Pentium 4?
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I know it's possible, but I've never tried it. The best tip I've picked up from the guide was this
- Tip 3: On Linux, remember to run fastboot under sudo
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If you have any idea what that means, it may be of help to you.
Stock CWM. Never used anything else, never had problems, never plan to use anything else.
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Crap I moved back to linux after I s-off'ed, is there anyway I can use fastboot without having to dig out my aging Pentium 4?
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Just download and install the Android SDK for linux, what distribution are you using?
I suppose you're using Ubuntu or some .deb based distribution, this tutorial may serve for you:
Running something on "sudo" is giving superuser attributes to the processes and services that a program or whatever you are running needs to have to function properly. Yes it's important when you flash with fastboot.
If you can flash on a laptop will be better for you, a friend of mine bricked his galaxy sII when he was flashing and there was an electricity short.
Archector said:
What recovery do you guys prefer?
I've seen a lot of Vivids with WCX these days.
Post your experience with each one!
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I use the recovery-beta2 recovery from thecubed. I tried WCX but I couldn't get any ROM's to flash with it... nothing but bootloops for some strange reason (yes I fastboot flashed the boot.img first people). I reflashed thecubed's recovery right after having issues and flashing ROM's worked again. I'm sticking with what works and I've had zero issues with thecubed's recovery after using for several months.
I know I sound redundant, but does anyone have a link to the latest WCX recovery?
You have to download from WildChild's website.... It's included in his ROM zip. You have to have 10 posts on his site before you can download anything so be prepared to "earn" the download.
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I use the recovery-beta2 recovery from thecubed. I tried WCX but I couldn't get any ROM's to flash with it... nothing but bootloops for some strange reason (yes I fastboot flashed the boot.img first people). I reflashed thecubed's recovery right after having issues and flashing ROM's worked again. I'm sticking with what works and I've had zero issues with thecubed's recovery after using for several months.
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Did you use the recovery un-installer to get rid of CWM before you tried the WCX recovery? I remember some people having issues trying to use WCX over one of the previous CWMs without un-installing it first.
Actually your incorrect,its available freely from the rooting flashing thread on here...as far as earning something....dont like participation dont use my work either way tomorrows another day and life goes on now doesnt it....theres no entitilement to [email protected] "earned" comment....
WC
dusty2422 said:
You have to download from WildChild's website.... It's included in his ROM zip. You have to have 10 posts on his site before you can download anything so be prepared to "earn" the download.
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Some people just throw stuff out like they know what's going on... Wow get facts right first bro
Y'know if CWM loops, it's because your rom of choice had a useless ext4 performance tuning script in it that changed some of the mount options of /cache.
If you have CWM and find that after flashing a ROM that does weird things to your Vivid, just reboot to fastboot, then issue "fastboot erase cache" then boot to recovery and format /cache.
CWM hasn't caused any hard bricks, it's ROM developers that aren't properly checking their 'init.d tweaks' and updater-scripts. Now that we have s-off, a bad tweak or updater-script can and WILL make your phone hard to fix.
just used TWRP on my Sprint Gnex and love the interface! I used CWM on my old Epic 4G and it worked great too. To me, seeing all the options on that screen is easier....seems stable.
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Great point but how would the average Joe know that about a rom before a flash? I'd love to be able to know that and avoid bricking altogether (but wouldn't we all). any tips?
Wild Child said:
Actually your incorrect,its available freely from the rooting flashing thread on here...as far as earning something....dont like participation dont use my work either way tomorrows another day and life goes on now doesnt it....theres no entitilement to [email protected] "earned" comment....
WC
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I don't mind participation... I just find it hard to participate in a forum where I can't download anything. Kind of hard to comment on something that you can't download IMO.
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Some people just throw stuff out like they know what's going on... Wow get facts right first bro
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Not sure if this was directed at me but I'll assume it is. WC closed all of his dev threads on XDA (Vivid forum at least) which is why I assumed it wasn't here anymore (yes I searched before replying). Not sure that I've ever seen dev related content stuck in a [GUIDE] thread (maybe a link to the thread that has it) so not sure why this was the place chosen and probably why I missed it. Apparently I'm not the only one since I've seen multiple people asking who can't find it. I appreciate you keeping me honest though "bro".
Archector said:
What recovery do you guys prefer?
I've seen a lot of Vivids with WCX these days.
Post your experience with each one!
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WCX all the way, ROM's, Recovery, & Kernel. Now, I'm not trying to say that CWM doesn't work, I used it alot when I was rooting & flashing my Aria... but I've had nothing but 100% success using WCX Recovery & ROM's since before I started beta testing for him (along with all the other dedicated members).
I've never used TWRP before, & all I think about when I see that word is Big Booty Shaking!!! ;-)
WCX! I have to say that EVERYTHING that he and his team put out is top notch!
First off, I wanna apologize if the has been discussed.
I see a lot of you broke your device by trying some form of method to fix the device in any fancy way.
I had a friend brick by trying the Cyanoboot method.
First off, assuming you have already got CWM installed via the tutorial that's been posted already.
Secondly, make sure you have some form of way to side load apps onto the device. Be it Dropbox, Google Drive, or maybe your using an ADB method.
Lastly, I have found this to be the easiest way.
So, let's begin. Please make sure you have a way of grabbing ROM Manager, back it up, download an .apk from a Google search or just port it from one device to another via an app.
Once you've found your method of getting the side loaded .apk let's make sure it's installed, any newer version will work(Older versions have been reported of not installing and allowing a proper clean reboot). So let's make sure it's a newer updated version, secondly test it and make sure the version you're using will reboot the device properly without issue. Working? Good.
Now let's use our nifty tool as soon as you have CWM installed, you should get a proper reboot!
This is good.
As a side note, I've had mine give issue and make me wait a few for a full reboot into CWM.
Now you're done!
Flashing ROMs.
It's just as easy as you'd think it'd be as long as you've got a properly packed ROM onto your device.
Note: If you're looking for a tut on porting the ROM, please check the Dev forum as there is a tut posted that is clean and simple using ADB.
Also, there are some that say you can using a cloud storage method.(Try it at your own risk!)
Once you've got your ROM onto Ouya you should check with an explorer to confirm that it was saved onto the device.(I have an issue of downloading things of the Internet with Ouya and them not showing up).
Now, using the method I first mentioned to get into CWM, do so.
You should see an option to search through your internal SD, this would be the next step as we can't/don't have any form of using an external SD, that is if you could connect a flash drive to the back and use it, though I can't confirm it would work.
Lastly, once you've scanned the internal SD and found your ROM, flash it. Sometimes this could take a bit, being my case it took 10m to install Ouya Plus.
If any issues occur, feel free to post and I shall try my best to answer anything!
Ouya-XD said:
First off, I wanna apologize if the has been discussed.
I see a lot of you broke your device by trying some form of method to fix the device in any fancy way.
I had a friend brick by trying the Cyanoboot method.
First off, assuming you have already got CWM installed via the tutorial that's been posted already.
Secondly, make sure you have some form of way to side load apps onto the device. Be it Dropbox, Google Drive, or maybe your using an ADB method.
Lastly, I have found this to be the easiest way.
So, let's begin. Please make sure you have a way of grabbing ROM Manager, back it up, download an .apk from a Google search or just port it from one device to another via an app.
Once you've found your method of getting the side loaded .apk let's make sure it's installed, any newer version will work(Older versions have been reported of not installing and allowing a proper clean reboot). So let's make sure it's a newer updated version, secondly test it and make sure the version you're using will reboot the device properly without issue. Working? Good.
Now let's use our nifty tool as soon as you have CWM installed, you should get a proper reboot!
This is good.
As a side note, I've had mine give issue and make me wait a few for a full reboot into CWM.
Now you're done!
Flashing ROMs.
It's just as easy as you'd think it'd be as long as you've got a properly packed ROM onto your device.
Note: If you're looking for a tut on porting the ROM, please check the Dev forum as there is a tut posted that is clean and simple using ADB.
Also, there are some that say you can using a cloud storage method.(Try it at your own risk!)
Once you've got your ROM onto Ouya you should check with an explorer to confirm that it was saved onto the device.(I have an issue of downloading things of the Internet with Ouya and them not showing up).
Now, using the method I first mentioned to get into CWM, do so.
You should see an option to search through your internal SD, this would be the next step as we can't/don't have any form of using an external SD, that is if you could connect a flash drive to the back and use it, though I can't confirm it would work.
Lastly, once you've scanned the internal SD and found your ROM, flash it. Sometimes this could take a bit, being my case it took 10m to install Ouya Plus.
If any issues occur, feel free to post and I shall try my best to answer anything!
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just as an add: my Ouya did not detect a exFAT MicroSD in a USB reader. Maybe CWM only works with some formats?
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just as an add: my Ouya did not detect a exFAT MicroSD in a USB reader. Maybe CWM only works with some formats?
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I do believe there's been a certain format to use, though I'm unaware on how this works.
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glitchhawk said:
just as an add: my Ouya did not detect a exFAT MicroSD in a USB reader. Maybe CWM only works with some formats?
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Ouya-XD said:
I do believe there's been a certain format to use, though I'm unaware on how this works.
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FAT32 is more or less the "golden" standard for portable devices. glitchhaw, you are aware that exFAT is one of the most laughably locked down filesystems for portable devices out there, right? If you're being official at all, you have to pay royalties to Microsoft to be able to work with exFAT, and I doubt OUYA built support in for that.
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FAT32 is more or less the "golden" standard for portable devices. glitchhaw, you are aware that exFAT is one of the most laughably locked down filesystems for portable devices out there, right? If you're being official at all, you have to pay royalties to Microsoft to be able to work with exFAT, and I doubt OUYA built support in for that.
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i know that I don't like exFAT and that its annoying and glitchy sometimes with android.. but I don't like the fat32 4gb limit.
i wish CWM/TWRP worked with NTFS or EXT, at least they are more reliable.
glitchhawk said:
i know that I don't like exFAT and that its annoying and glitchy sometimes with android.. but I don't like the fat32 4gb limit.
i wish CWM/TWRP worked with NTFS or EXT, at least they are more reliable.
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NTFS support can be added at the kernel level, but I don't know of any recoveries that support it, sadly. And that's unfortunately the nature of the beast, and probably why many recoveries will break files up into multiple archives.
Go full *nix and use ext4 like a man... Unless you're a woman, then use it like a woman.
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I am unable to get the unit to respond to Rom managers attempt at rebooting into recovery, I'll give the command via the app and it will just continue sitting there at the menu. CWM was successfully installed and I made a backup. I downloaded the app to my phone and then TB'd it and sent it to my device. did I miss something?
B4 I updated I needed SU to make the reeboot. Feature work.
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that was my thought, however I just reran the .bat for cwm and flashed that way.
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I am unable to get the unit to respond to Rom managers attempt at rebooting into recovery, I'll give the command via the app and it will just continue sitting there at the menu. CWM was successfully installed and I made a backup. I downloaded the app to my phone and then TB'd it and sent it to my device. did I miss something?
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I'd assume if it's not working that way then to try the ADB method instead, again, please report all issues to me.
Do you have CWM installed, on a final note?
People cry a out signatures, there's no need for one! I love my community and will stand up for it!
App: Quick Boot . reboot into fast boot, recovery, or shut down the console.
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Ouya-XD said:
First off, I wanna apologize if the has been discussed.
I see a lot of you broke your device by trying some form of method to fix the device in any fancy way.
I had a friend brick by trying the Cyanoboot method.
First off, assuming you have already got CWM installed via the tutorial that's been posted already.
Secondly, make sure you have some form of way to side load apps onto the device. Be it Dropbox, Google Drive, or maybe your using an ADB method.
Lastly, I have found this to be the easiest way.
So, let's begin. Please make sure you have a way of grabbing ROM Manager, back it up, download an .apk from a Google search or just port it from one device to another via an app.
Once you've found your method of getting the side loaded .apk let's make sure it's installed, any newer version will work(Older versions have been reported of not installing and allowing a proper clean reboot). So let's make sure it's a newer updated version, secondly test it and make sure the version you're using will reboot the device properly without issue. Working? Good.
Now let's use our nifty tool as soon as you have CWM installed, you should get a proper reboot!
This is good.
As a side note, I've had mine give issue and make me wait a few for a full reboot into CWM.
Now you're done!
Flashing ROMs.
It's just as easy as you'd think it'd be as long as you've got a properly packed ROM onto your device.
Note: If you're looking for a tut on porting the ROM, please check the Dev forum as there is a tut posted that is clean and simple using ADB.
Also, there are some that say you can using a cloud storage method.(Try it at your own risk!)
Once you've got your ROM onto Ouya you should check with an explorer to confirm that it was saved onto the device.(I have an issue of downloading things of the Internet with Ouya and them not showing up).
Now, using the method I first mentioned to get into CWM, do so.
You should see an option to search through your internal SD, this would be the next step as we can't/don't have any form of using an external SD, that is if you could connect a flash drive to the back and use it, though I can't confirm it would work.
Lastly, once you've scanned the internal SD and found your ROM, flash it. Sometimes this could take a bit, being my case it took 10m to install Ouya Plus.
If any issues occur, feel free to post and I shall try my best to answer anything!
If this was useful to you, I can only ask of a favor!
Check out my YouTube channel!
http://WWW.YouTube.com/user/TheDarkRosarySubscribe if you will! I will be covering everything Ouya and doing news soon!
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I have to say this is probably the worst how to/tutorial I have seen on XDA.
If you're intent is to help users inexperienced with CWM, then you need to write clearly defined steps. The whole thing is vague. You don't give links to a single file or other tutorial, a how to shouldn't keep telling people to do a Google search for things. On four steps you make people search for files or another how-to.
What is the new version of Rom manager? How do you make sure it will reboot the device properly? Be specific.
You say flashing Roms is easy as long as you have a properly packed Rom. How does one go about checking that? How do you flash the Rom?
This is what a how-to is supposed to include. This is equivalent to just telling people GIYF and RTM.
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I have to say this is probably the worst how to/tutorial I have seen on XDA.
If you're intent is to help users inexperienced with CWM, then you need to write clearly defined steps. The whole thing is vague. You don't give links to a single file or other tutorial, a how to shouldn't keep telling people to do a Google search for things. On four steps you make people search for files or another how-to.
What is the new version of Rom manager? How do you make sure it will reboot the device properly? Be specific.
You say flashing Roms is easy as long as you have a properly packed Rom. How does one go about checking that? How do you flash the Rom?
This is what a how-to is supposed to include. This is equivalent to just telling people GIYF and RTM.
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There's no need to bash peoples thread first of all.
And secondly, you'll be reported for this.
As of how to to do this, I can't always "be specific" like you want when I post a good amount of this from my phone, so do be prepared for a tut that's not fully helpful.
Lastly, I HIGHLY doubt that you've read every tut on here, and trust me, I've seen so much worse that go down to the nick of; "If you wipe and install first, this version will fully brick the device, this version will half brick it".
So explain to me, since I've made ROM packages, I've had more tuts than just this, what do you wanna see more in a tutorial from me? Tell me and I'll try my best to help.
Don't go barging in with the intent of anger in mind and begin bashing me to the fullest.
Most people PM me and I give them what they need if they can't find it, as for you? Nuh uh, after this, NO is my final answer.
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App: Quick Boot . reboot into fast boot, recovery, or shut down the console.
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Thanks man, I'll make sure to add it to the OP.
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Ouya-XD said:
There's no need to bash peoples thread first of all.
And secondly, you'll be reported for this.
As of how to to do this, I can't always "be specific" like you want when I post a good amount of this from my phone, so do be prepared for a tut that's not fully helpful.
Lastly, I HIGHLY doubt that you've read every tut on here, and trust me, I've seen so much worse that go down to the nick of; "If you wipe and install first, this version will fully brick the device, this version will half brick it".
So explain to me, since I've made ROM packages, I've had more tuts than just this, what do you wanna see more in a tutorial from me? Tell me and I'll try my best to help.
Don't go barging in with the intent of anger in mind and begin bashing me to the fullest.
Most people PM me and I give them what they need if they can't find it, as for you? Nuh uh, after this, NO is my final answer.
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You reported me for what? That your feelings are hurt?
Ostensibly you created this tutorial to prevent people from bricking their OUYAs. That is why I was expecting a detailed walkthrough and was very disappointed. You created a tutorial on your phone that is lacking vital info that I have already detailed. I did not bash you to the fullest. You admit that your tut is not fully helpful, and I've seen other comments on another tut of yours that were a great deal harsher than mine about your motivation to post a poorly written tut.
I apologize for the severity of my opening line. I was and am annoyed that the "how-to" does not provide any info vital to users so that they don't brick their OUYA. Every time they are sent elsewhere for a file or info there is a risk of getting bad info or a malicious or corrupt apk. I outlined a lot of the information I think should be included. If I had all the answers I'd have included those as well, but I am here because I thought I could learn something. Maybe I still will.
Edit: I see now what type of person you are and how helpful you can be. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43031832 so the next time you see me ask for help go ahead and flame me. Don't worry I have a thick skin, so I won't feel the need to cry to the mods you hypocrite.
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TadeoNYC said:
You reported me for what? That your feelings are hurt?
Ostensibly you created this tutorial to prevent people from bricking their OUYAs. That is why I was expecting a detailed walkthrough and was very disappointed. You created a tutorial on your phone that is lacking vital info that I have already detailed. I did not bash you to the fullest. You admit that your tut is not fully helpful, and I've seen other comments on another tut of yours that were a great deal harsher than mine about your motivation to post a poorly written tut.
I apologize for the severity of my opening line. I was and am annoyed that the "how-to" does not provide any info vital to users so that they don't brick their OUYA. Every time they are sent elsewhere for a file or info there is a risk of getting bad info or a malicious or corrupt apk. I outlined a lot of the information I think should be included. If I had all the answers I'd have included those as well, but I am here because I thought I could learn something. Maybe I still will.
Edit: I see now what type of person you are and how helpful you can be. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43031832 so the next time you see me ask for help go ahead and flame me. Don't worry I have a thick skin, so I won't feel the need to cry to the mods you hypocrite.
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Don't worry, this morning I was frustrated.
I'm sorry, tell me what you think I'm missing and I'll add the quote to the OP.
I plan on doing a video tut though.
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this is the worst tutorial I've ever read on xda. mods please take down this how to brick your ouya tutorial before people start downloading wrong files and bricking there ouya.
Okay where is your full proof method of rooting and installing cwm on the ouya?
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Going by the threads opened/posts by this fellow, maybe a sticky to let people know who to avoid is needed.
OP, maybe your're over-enthusiastic over your new Ouya, but XDA prides itself on people who actually KNOW what they're doing to help, not rambling nonsense.