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Galaxy Note 4 camera comparisons

version with sony sensor
xperia z3
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165843-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165790-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165842-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
xperia z3 (red clouds, blue asphalt)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165835-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4 (blue asphalt)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165784-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6 (bit yelowness)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165834-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
xperia z3 (cold colors, no yellow)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165839-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4 (yellowness)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165788-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6 (ideal)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165838-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
xperia z3 (cold colors, bad DR)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165853-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4 (Tree and tile quite a bit blueness and soil bit rosiness, good DR)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165802-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6 (ideal colors, very good DR)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165852-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
xperia z3 (all cold)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165805-image/Sony-Xperia-Z3.jpg
galaxy note 4 (blue lamppost, bit yellowish)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165804-image/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4.jpg
iphone 6 (good)
http://i-cdn.phonearena.com/images/reviews/165856-image/Apple-iPhone-6.jpg
version with samsung sensor
http://hi-tech.mail.ru/review/Apple_iPhone_6_Plus_vs_Samsung_GALAXY_Note_4.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r732fu9TJE
in samsung sensor cold and rosiness colors, blue instead gray or white, rosines instead brown etc., no yellow color, oversaturation)

Wait... there's two variants of the Note 4 with different sensors?
How do I find out which one I have?

sonyfan12 said:
version with samsung sensor
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you're not familiar with the practical part.. samsung sensor currently not in Note4 and possibly will not

It's the same Sony sensor afaik. There is no version with the "Samsung sensor".
Note 4 is better, with generally clearer, less noisy photos and better colors.

Pako7 said:
you're not familiar with the practical part.. samsung sensor currently not in Note4 and possibly will not
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Only samsung sensors make oversaturated colors
Also phonearena and other sites write that there isocell sensor

also g3 photos
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55938009&postcount=6

sonyfan12 said:
Only samsung sensors make oversaturated colors
Also phonearena and other sites write that there isocell sensor
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i look opensource, applets, library Note4, and service info at photo from device and see that used Sony sensor. And I do the same that come up there "phonearena and other sites"

sonyfan12 said:
Only samsung sensors make oversaturated colors
Also phonearena and other sites write that there isocell sensor
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those reviewers doesn't clarify it,they randomly saying it as the same sensor as in S5 with OIS--thats not true...................for N4 16:9 sensors are outsourced from sony as specified by samsung to implement isocell concept in them.............................

Pako7 said:
i look opensource, applets, library Note4, and service info at photo from device and see that used Sony sensor. And I do the same that come up there "phonearena and other sites"
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Don't know. I answered. Two facts against one.
Also you wrote this
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"I looked Chinese firmware N9106WZNU1ANIG (unit on Snap 805) and I want to say that in Snap apparently can occur Samsung S5K2P2 and Sony IMX240 sensors. Check who is interesting."
Two facts against ...

kannanX10 said:
for N4 16:9 sensors are outsourced from sony as specified by samsung to implement isocell concept in them.............................
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lol

sonyfan12 said:
Don't know. I answered. Two facts against one.
Also you wrote this.."I looked Chinese firmware N9106WZNU1ANIG (unit on Snap 805) and I want to say that in Snap apparently can occur Samsung S5K2P2 and Sony IMX240 sensors. Check who is interesting."
Two facts against ...
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yes.. but this files for S5K2P2 have only on N9106W_device from all I've ever seen firmware Note4. And not the fact that when in this device will be used this sensor. And if you're so good orientation on 4pda - look for all my posts in which I talked about Sony_sensor and honor.
I'm have already mentioned and XDA and 4PDA how both photos from the device to determine which sensor is worth it. Or use my prog PUMa.
Goodluck

Look at the car, only isocell sensor can make this oversaturation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9r732fu9TJE#t=37

sonyfan12 said:
Look at the car, only isocell sensor can make this oversaturetion
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=9r732fu9TJE#t=37
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Sony also is not bad do it. Let's you wait on Chipworks radiographs camera_module with several varieties of Note4 devices - everything will be clear to you.

I cannot believe no site has the specs of the sensor yet... Anyone able to confirm the sensor and its specs from their device?

https://translate.google.com/transl.../news/201410/a8tsZojQNe4kAfwi.html&edit-text=

sonyfan12 said:
https://translate.google.com/transl.../news/201410/a8tsZojQNe4kAfwi.html&edit-text=
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again?? he is deeply mistaken and I'm tired already explain why .. for example here honour - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55749031&postcount=44

Finally, a real camera evaluation. GSMArena's posted their review of the Note 4 ( http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_4-review-1147.php ). They and Anandtech both due ridged objective testing which they subject all the devices they test to equally. So the results can be compared across devices. I personally put little value in sites that basically offer their opinion which, so far, all that's been posted represent. There are some pro and semi-pro photographers on XDA whose opinions I value but most people here posting pics of their dog and critiquing it aren't really reliable references. And people owning each brand of smartphone swear their brand's camera(s) are the best. And let's face it, if you search the Internet hard enough you can find substantiation for just about any point you're trying to make. That's why objective testing is so important - you can't fight facts and controlled examples.
Here are some excerpts from GSMArena's testing of the S-805 version of the Note 4's camera...
Focusing has been improved this year with the inclusion of phase detection pixels on the sensor. It's the same technology that premiered on the Samsung Galaxy S5 but it's even faster this time around. The LG G3 and the Apple iPhone 6 and 6 Plus offer a similar hybrid auto focus systems combining the traditional contrast detect auto focus with phase detect.
The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 takes excellent pictures. The higher megapixel count is noticeable and we welcome the wider aspect of the images as both allow a bigger, better photo. Detail is superb, especially in the center of the photo but still doesn't degrade too much towards the far edges.
Images came out tack sharp across the frame and focusing was spot on. We noticed that the Galaxy Note 4 was very fast to lock on and even surpassed the Samsung Galaxy S5 on every occasion.
Colors aren't as punchy as those of the Galaxy S5 but are still vibrant. The white balance was spot on, finding a great middle ground between cold and warm. Scenes are well exposed and we like the dynamic range from the 16MP camera - the shadow and highlight areas of the image are well exposed.
There is some noise visible in the shadows and in solid colors (such as in the sky) but it's kept reasonably under control.
The autofocus when capturing close up (macro) images fares extremely well. The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 can get very close to its subject (around 6cm) and capture detailed images. There is also a reasonable separation from the object and the background leading to a nice blurred effect (bokeh).
HDR samples aim to expose the entire frame better by capturing a series of shots at different exposures and matching them for the final result. We like the HDR effect on the Galaxy Note 4 - it gets a lot of detail back into the shadows but also improves upon the highlights
Overall, we can say that the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 carries one of the most capable cameras you can find on a smartphone. The quality is very high, detail is aplenty and things are always in focus and always sharp. The large resolution is welcome and the 16:9 makes much more sense than 4:3 (or any other ratio for that matter) on a 16:9 device.​Versus Note 3
Looking at the samples in good light it's clear the Galaxy Note 4 has the upper hand. It manages to squeeze a little bit more detail compared to its predecessor. However the Galaxy Note 3 doesn't lag too far behind. Truth be told, there is more noise in the Galaxy Note 3 image, especially in the sky. The noise in the Galaxy Note 4 image is better controlled and finer.
In scenes with more fine detail the 16MP snapper of the Galaxy Note 4 is clearly superior. The textures on the wall of the building below indicate just that. Not only that, but it clearly has a better dynamic range, as the highlights on the left are not blown as on the right, while keeping nearly the same exposure of the shadows.​Versus SGS5
When it comes to low light we pit the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 against the Samsung Galaxy S5. Both have 16MP ISOCELL cameras with identical f/2.2 apertures so the amount of light hitting the sensor should be about the same. The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 has the added bonus of optical image stabilization, which should allow it to snap photos at lower shutter speeds than the S5.
The images below are shot at ISO 500 (automatic ISO) and with a shutter speed of 1/10s. As you can see the Samsung Galaxy S5 has a blurrier image while the Galaxy Note 4 keeps things a little more sharp at the same shutter speed. All four images were captured handheld.​
Here's GSMArena's six device camera shoot out test. In order of performance:
Lumia 1020
SGS5
LG G3
Oppo Find 7)
Xperia Z2 [Z3 has the same camera]
iP5s
They left out the HTC M8 because its 4MP camera doomed it from the beginning.
http://www.gsmarena.com/camera_shootout-review-1104p8.php

everyone keeps saying the N4 is ISOCELL, but i thought samsung still hasn't implemented OIS into their ISOCELL tech, and that this is a Sony sensor? why hasn't there been any conclusive evidence to show what sensor it is? i hated the GS5 ISOCELL a lot, but the N4 seems much more promising.

jayochs said:
everyone keeps saying the N4 is ISOCELL, but i thought samsung still hasn't implemented OIS into their ISOCELL tech, and that this is a Sony sensor? why hasn't there been any conclusive evidence to show what sensor it is? i hated the GS5 ISOCELL a lot, but the N4 seems much more promising.
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In my opinion, GSMArena saying the below is pretty conclusive. As a recognized publication they have access to Samsung's PR cadre, internal tech resources, and documentation that the public doesn't. They could be wrong but until someone more credible than they are says otherwise I'm going with what they've said. What's inconclusive is all the random screen caps, editorial in Asian languages translated in to pigeon English, and a bunch of Internet reader's posting here and positioning themselves as Samsung insiders and expert photographers. When it comes to low light we pit the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 against the Samsung Galaxy S5. Both have 16MP ISOCELL cameras with identical f/2.2 apertures so the amount of light hitting the sensor should be about the same. The Samsung Galaxy Note 4 has the added bonus of optical image stabilization, which should allow it to snap photos at lower shutter speeds than the S5.​
Here's two more sources (although I think GSMArena's the most credible)...
Speaking about image quality, the Samsung Galaxy Note 4 utilizes ISOCELL sensor technology that significantly improved image quality by using barriers between adjacent pixels. This reduces crosstalk by around 30%. Each pixel can now hold 30% more electrons, The higher Full Well Capacity also reduces charge leakage to neighbor pixels, because it the charge reaches to its max limit, it can cause leaking that can lead to blown highlight areas in the image. It’s true that as the pixel pitch (microns) is larger, the electrons that can be stored per pixel is higher. This is why we usually see cameras with larger sensors, ones that have larger pixels have better signal-to-noise ratio and also a higher dynamic range.
http://www.cameradebate.com/2014/iphone-6-plus-camera-vs-samsung-galaxy-note-4-camera/​The new Galaxy Note 4 camera is a 16-megapixel design with Samsung’s ISOCELL technology to give better low-light shots, along with auto focus and new this year, Smart Optical Image Stabilization (OIS).
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/10/samsung-galaxy-note-4s-4k-video-impressive-new-standard.html​​

Color accuracy seems to be a problem as well as white balance in low light shots. For instance, compare the JUMBO text in the low-light photos between the iPhone 6+ and Note 4 from the gsmarena review.
Note 4:
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/samsung-galaxy-note-4/camera/gsmarena_016.jpg
iPhone 6+:
http://www.gsmarena.com/showpic.php3?sImg=reviewsimg/apple-iphone-6-plus/camera/gsmarena_015.jpg
I will admit the Note 4 took the shot in an even darker environment but the difference is quite literally night and day.

My Full Family - Note 4, Gear S & Gear Circle

My Full Complete Family.
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My short review.
Note 4 - the best mobile phablet ever build from Samsung internally and externally. Full review on second post.
Gear S - Solid design, I love the curve screen, it is nice touch, not over big actually, fashionable and smoothly. The thing I dislike is the charger, difficult to touch up, why use such design, first generation Gear charger is much better. Another is the build in GPS is half dead, it is A-GPS which need data connection, it won't work without insert SIM card that have data connection or WiFi to any data connection. I already confirm with Samsung where it is behave like that, the Data connection is required.
Gear Circle - Fashionable design, comfortable to wear, awesome sound quality for Samsung mobile user only, how stupid Samsung can get such idea where you need and only can tune the sound setting inside the Samsung Gear App properly, not even from the Music player itself. You get a big different sound quality after make some sound settings changes inside the Gear apps itself!
My current Gear Circle setting at Gear Apps.
I pick Rock then go advanced turn on both Bass and 3D. This settings can't turn on at Music player settings. I left normal at Music settings.

Performance - the best QHD resolution phone I tested so far. Smoothness 95% as they is still slightly 3 seconds delay opening recent apps, the briefing add on is not well done especially the open effect, it is not pull out but jump out. Hmm... sometimes they is still slightly jittering when minimise apps and also during scrolling 2nd apps under multi window.
Real Camera - extremely awesome, I believe the best so far in day light, night shoot wise second best. Today later will do some comparison with iPhone 6 plus. The taken time is extremely fast, no single delay event at night.
Front camera - great for selfie, bright and clear. The wide selfie wise is not as easier to use as promote.
Screen quality - I give 95% as well. If you dimmer down the screen then you will notice they is slightly color shift at bottom part at white background. It is more easier to see the wave on bottom end when you put the phone horizontally and look closer to eye. I check others demo set at Samsung store and all same. Please don't purposely check it if you never seen it. But this is by far much much better than my previous Note 3 AMOLED screen. Beside this, the screen is absolutely awesome! The best AMOLED screen I ever seen and use.
QHD resolution - is this gimmick? Hardly to said, seriously I can't spot any differences compare with FHD. Oops! It is not like HD to FHD that kind of big differences wow!
Battery Life - surprisingly great! At least the SOT is better than Note 3.
Touchwiz UI - the best ever by Samsung. Flat nice design and finally can put folder inside apps drawer everywhere back not like initial release in S5 UI which can't. They is two draw back compare with S5. Why Samsung remove the color selection for folder! Also the new briefing is badly implement compare with S5 one. Beside this please implement way for disable or moving to bottom the S Finder and Quick Connect at notification, it is annoying as sometimes I do accidentally click it when clicking the clear button.
Samsung widget - I love all the Samsung widget, this time all well done with flat look semi transparency especially the main clock weather widget.
Bloatware - I don't find any extra Bloatware this time. Those keep complaining Samsung is bloat shall really go check it out before judge. Also if you use China phone especially Xiaomi then you will know what is really call bloat.
Loud Speaker - far louder and better than Note 3 but put back at real is really a big wrong decision. Why oh why you move from previous great bottom location to real. Now I truly miss my HTC One M8 awesome stereo loud speaker.
IN OVERALL I GIVE SCORES OF 95%.

Note 4 (wide) vs iPhone 6 Plus (square) Part 01
- all auto mode with HDR Off.

Note 4 (wide) vs iPhone 6+ (square) Part 02
- all auto mode with HDR Off.

Note 4 Zoom Test - Original, 2x, 4x and 8x

Random shoot - auto mode, HDR Off.
Auto Mode, no HDR, +/- 4x zoom
Auto Mode, no HDR, no Zoom

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 vs HTC One M8
Top Note 4, bottom M8 | Auto Mode, HDR Off.

My full family (way to complete) = 1 ex-wife, 1 girlfriend, 5 children, 4 biological, 1 adopted, 2 dogs 4 cats. Oh yeah, I got a phone too ??

marleyb said:
My full family (way to complete) = 1 ex-wife, 1 girlfriend, 5 children, 4 biological, 1 adopted, 2 dogs 4 cats. Oh yeah, I got a phone too ??
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Lol, when you gonna have third wife.

Andrewtst said:
Lol, when you gonna have third wife.
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Noooooooooo plz. haha Will trade my ex-wife for your Samsung family though, np :laugh:

What is the model-nr of the Gear-Circle (complete please)?
Maybe take a pic of the barcode on the box, then I can see where I can buy it in Europe (Netherlands)...
Thanks already... :good:

Andrewtst said:
My Full Complete Family.
My short review.
Note 4 - the best mobile phablet ever build from Samsung internally and externally. Full review on second post.
Gear S - Solid design, I love the curve screen, it is nice touch, not over big actually, fashionable and smoothly. The thing I dislike is the charger, difficult to touch up, why use such design, first generation Gear charger is much better. Another is the build in GPS is half dead, it is A-GPS which need data connection, it won't work without insert SIM card that have data connection or WiFi to any data connection. I already confirm with Samsung where it is behave like that, the Data connection is required.
Gear Circle - Fashionable design, comfortable to wear, awesome sound quality for Samsung mobile user only, how stupid Samsung can get such idea where you need and only can tune the sound setting inside the Samsung Gear App properly, not even from the Music player itself. You get a big different sound quality after make some sound settings changes inside the Gear apps itself!
My current Gear Circle setting at Gear Apps.
I pick Rock then go advanced turn on both Bass and 3D. This settings can't turn on at Music player settings. I left normal at Music settings.
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White gear S why didn't you stay with the black theme you had going

Uniquebarbee said:
White gear S why didn't you stay with the black theme you had going
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Because i prefer the white. Actually i want white Gear Circle but don't have.

Which thème are you used in first post for icons and wallpaper please

Andrewtst said:
Because i prefer the white. Actually i want white Gear Circle but don't have.
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I see the white circle is exclusive to best buy and one carrier

jazzypit said:
Which thème are you used in first post for icons and wallpaper please
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That themes is Moonshine.

Disappointed: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 // More and more missing features 【#ProjectZero2】

Disappointed: Samsung Galaxy Note 5 // More and more missing features 【#ProjectZero2】
Hello, everybody.
Everybody does still remember the great shock, where Samsung switched to the evil side of Smartphones with the S6. Nobody expected Samsung ever to do that to the people, who appreciated Samsung before.
Now everybody hoped the Note 5 to be a better Smartphone than the S6, and everybody, who appreciated the OLD „Samsung“ hoped Samsung to fix the S6 disadvantages on the Note 5.
But the codename „Project Zero 2“ made Samsungs Market Suicide for sure.
Example: TSP-Hovering was something great to show off in front of pupils from your school class. The nice S4 and Note 3 gimmicks were good to show off.
But showing off with an S6 is rather impossible.
And if you're in survival mode, the 2550 mAh of the S6 won't keep you alive very long.
Important: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61982181&postcount=529
Comparisson between the old and the new Samsung:
OLD:
Newer Phone = More Features
Newer Phones must cover the FULL FEATURE RANGE of the old phone.
Newer Phones are able to be used to show off
Newer Phones do not lose a single feature
Newer Phones have a better battery runtime
Newer Phones have cuter user interfaces
Successors will impress
Hardware is more important than Design
NEW:
Successors with ugly logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GalaxyS6_Logo.Png (File History)
Successors don't show the model number (e.g. GT-i9506 or SM-N9005) on the boot screen. So the i9506 looks like a stock i9505
Successors get uglier user interface
Successors only have the most important and basic features
Successors get new features, that get lost on the next phone.
Successors get more restrictions
Successors loose more and more features
Successors: Unable to showoff
Successors: Design is more Important than Hardware
Successors have less costumizability possibilities
Less gimmicks
Project Zero als means Zero Feature Range
Successors: More gaps
Successors: requiring getting used to
Successors: Less Setting Possibilities
Successors: Making many things worse (Now, the S6 does have the iPhone photo animation.)
Successors: Uglier UI Sounds
Successors: Many useful features are vanished
Successors: Harder to use (e.g. you can't access the AppInfo from App Switcher +++ you can't access display settings and clock settings from the dropdown menu)
Successors: Loss of Pre-Installed Features (Like Creating/Extracting ZIP Files with the native file manager or drop down menu with two fingers)
If there is a UI change, there must be the possiblity to get the old one back (like Lollipop Task Switcher or Lollipop Drop Down Menu or TouchWiz Message Boxes)
Successors: Less flexibility and capabilities and usability. (Water-Resistance; USB 3.0 (Faster Data Transfer); MicroSD; MHL-MicroHDMI; Removable Battery; Large battery; Many Features; Useful Features ← all missing. )
Successors: I really hope the Physical Shutter Button from the Omnia 2 GT-i8000 (2009/2010 Flagship) to come back to Samsung.
Successors: Less Sensors (Gesture, TSP-Hovering, Temperature, Humidity, Air-Pressure, UV)
Loss of Backwards Compatibility (Applications or MMS Video Recording etc…)
So it#s impossible to call Project-Zero-Phones „flagship“.
The two phones which had most of the features and the lowest amount of lost features at their release date were the S2 GT-i9100 and the Note 3 SM-N9005.
A great thanks to @hella356 and @bbbobbbo for the great comprehension.
If something is wrong, feel free mentioning it by posting here or sending me a private message.
Feel free posting your opinion here! Every post is welcome.
I do really miss the old times of Smartphones and normal Cell Phones, where there were only new features, no lost features.
Here is a list of lost features, which can be used to ShowOff in your school class:
Air Gestures (S4, Note 3)
TSP-Hovering (S4, Note 3, Alpha) Call Number: *#0*# or *#7353#.
Temperature and Humidity Sensor (S4, Note 3)
Smart Pause [S4, Note 3]
Smart Stay [S4, Note 3]
Smart Rotation [S4, Note 3]
Smart Screen [S4, Note 3]
Smart Scroll [S4, Note 3]
Air View (e.g. Video Player Bubble)
Video Thumbnail Playback [If you don't like it or want to save battery, disable it]
Toolbox
Note 2, S4, Note 3, S5 and Alpha: Camera Features and Scene Modes
MHL-MicroHDMI
Dropdown-Menu: Drop with Two Fingers and call all features
The Second generation of ProjectZero.
Important Post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-missing-feature-galaxy-t2866382/post61982181
I can't believe it! Samsung made suicide. That can't be true. :crying:
I truly hope Samsung to come back to the good side of fortune.
In the meantime: Feel Free sharing your disappointment in this thread.

@hella356: Your -E Models-Idea was a very good idea‼ (Removable Battery, MicroSD, etc.)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...storage-removable-t3050516/page2#post62442231
Let's hope the best for Samsung:
Say NO to Project Zero.
ProjectZero 2? No way‼

Hannah Stern said:
Hello, everybody.
Everybody does still remember the great shock, where Samsung switched to the evil side of Smartphones with the S6. Nobody expected Samsung ever to do that to the people, who appreciated Samsung before.
Now everybody hoped the Note 5 to be a better Smartphone than the S6, and everybody, who appreciated the OLD „Samsung“ hoped Samsung to fix the S6 disadvantages on the Note 5.
But the codename „Project Zero 2“ made Samsungs Market Suicide for sure.
Example: TSP-Hovering was something great to show off in front of pupils from your school class. The nice S4 and Note 3 gimmicks were good to show off.
But showing off with an S6 is rather impossible.
And if you're in survival mode, the 2550 mAh of the S6 won't keep you alive very long.
Important: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=61982181&postcount=529
Comparisson between the old and the new Samsung:
OLD:
Newer Phone = More Features
Newer Phones must cover the FULL FEATURE RANGE of the old phone.
Newer Phones are able to be used to show off
Newer Phones do not lose a single feature
Newer Phones have a better battery runtime
Newer Phones have cuter user interfaces
Successors will impress
Hardware is more important than Design
NEW:
Successors with ugly logo: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:GalaxyS6_Logo.Png (File History)
Successors don't show the model number (e.g. GT-i9506 or SM-N9005) on the boot screen. So the i9506 looks like a stock i9505
Successors get uglier user interface
Successors only have the most important and basic features
Successors get new features, that get lost on the next phone.
Successors get more restrictions
Successors loose more and more features
Successors: Unable to showoff
Successors: Design is more Important than Hardware
Successors have less costumizability possibilities
Less gimmicks
Project Zero als means Zero Feature Range
Successors: More gaps
Successors: requiring getting used to
Successors: Less Setting Possibilities
Successors: Making many things worse (Now, the S6 does have the iPhone photo animation.)
Successors: Uglier UI Sounds
Successors: Many useful features are vanished
Successors: Harder to use (e.g. you can't access the AppInfo from App Switcher +++ you can't access display settings and clock settings from the dropdown menu)
Successors: Loss of Pre-Installed Features (Like Creating/Extracting ZIP Files with the native file manager or drop down menu with two fingers)
If there is a UI change, there must be the possiblity to get the old one back (like Lollipop Task Switcher or Lollipop Drop Down Menu or TouchWiz Message Boxes)
Successors: Less flexibility and capabilities and usability. (Water-Resistance; USB 3.0 (Faster Data Transfer); MicroSD; MHL-MicroHDMI; Removable Battery; Large battery; Many Features; Useful Features ← all missing. )
Successors: I really hope the Physical Shutter Button from the Omnia 2 GT-i8000 (2009/2010 Flagship) to come back to Samsung.
Successors: Less Sensors (Gesture, TSP-Hovering, Temperature, Humidity, Air-Pressure, UV)
Loss of Backwards Compatibility (Applications or MMS Video Recording etc…)
So it#s impossible to call Project-Zero-Phones „flagship“.
The two phones which had most of the features and the lowest amount of lost features at their release date were the S2 GT-i9100 and the Note 3 SM-N9005.
A great thanks to @hella356 and @bbbobbbo for the great comprehension.
If something is wrong, feel free mentioning it by posting here or sending me a private message.
Feel free posting your opinion here! Every post is welcome.
I do really miss the old times of Smartphones and normal Cell Phones, where there were only new features, no lost features.
Here is a list of lost features, which can be used to ShowOff in your school class:
Air Gestures (S4, Note 3)
TSP-Hovering (S4, Note 3, Alpha) Call Number: *#0*# or *#7353#.
Temperature and Humidity Sensor (S4, Note 3)
Smart Pause [S4, Note 3]
Smart Stay [S4, Note 3]
Smart Rotation [S4, Note 3]
Smart Screen [S4, Note 3]
Smart Scroll [S4, Note 3]
Air View (e.g. Video Player Bubble)
Video Thumbnail Playback [If you don't like it or want to save battery, disable it]
Toolbox
Note 2, S4, Note 3, S5 and Alpha: Camera Features and Scene Modes
MHL-MicroHDMI
Dropdown-Menu: Drop with Two Fingers and call all features
The Second generation of ProjectZero.
Important Post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-missing-feature-galaxy-t2866382/post61982181
I can't believe it! Samsung made suicide. That can't be true. :crying:
I truly hope Samsung to come back to the good side of fortune.
In the meantime: Feel Free sharing your disappointment in this thread.
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Totally agree! It is beyond my comprehension as to why Samsung is doing all this, and TBH I'm starting to not give a flying f**k!
As Hannah so well pointed out, Samsung as we all used to know no longer exists! It really is becoming just an IPhone with an added stylus, only worse.
Oh, and Hannah, among the missing features let's not forget:
- embedded location (street name and number) in the pictures name, like Note 2's;
- real physical FM radio;
- photo signature, like Note 3's;
- is really IR blaster missing, or is it just rumours?
So as farm as I'm concerned, I' ll be sticking with my current Note 4 long as I can , and as soon as a mother-of-all-phones hits the market, WITH a stylus like Spen, I'll be its first owner!

bbbobbbo said:
Totally agree! It is beyond my comprehension as to why Samsung is doing all this, and TBH I'm starting to not give a flying f**k!
As Hannah so well pointed out, Samsung as we all used to know no longer exists! It really is becoming just an IPhone with an added stylus, only worse.
Oh, and Hannah, among the missing features let's not forget:
- embedded location (street name and number) in the pictures name, like Note 2's;
- real physical FM radio;
- photo signature, like Note 3's;
- is really IR blaster missing, or is it just rumours?
So as farm as I'm concerned, I' ll be sticking with my current Note 4 long as I can , and as soon as a mother-of-all-phones hits the market, WITH a stylus like Spen, I'll be its first owner!
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You're absolutely 1000 Percents right. Thank you very much for your reply.
What the hell actually happened to Samsung? I simply can't believe that.
The only way, Samsung can return is that less and less people buy their devices, so that they cancel ProjectZero.
ProjectZero=SamsungSuicide
Definition of ProjectZero:
Zero Reputation for Samsung
Zero Feature Range
Zero end-user friendly
Zero Flexibility
Loss of Features
Design has a higer priority than Hardware+Flexibility+Software+UI
But for the People, who appreciated SAMSUNG before, the FEATURES are more important than the DESIGN!!!!!
Design-Priority is something for iPhone.
Their Phones have:
Just 1 GB Ram
1850 mAh (Galaxy Alpha has 1860 mAh) Battery
No 4K Video
Crappy Camera User Interface
Setting Menu: Ugly User Interface
But Apples advantage is, that successors don't lose any feature.
Samsung must not go that way.
Nobody expected the S6 to be such a CrapFone (or CrapPhone).
Before S6 Release:
Everybody imagined the S6 to be like that: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/3/38/20150721132405!GalaxyS6_Logo.Png
But Samsung made it like this: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/38/GalaxyS6_Logo.Png
Ugly, no Features and a low amount of new features.
In 2011, we knew Samsung a different way. But in 2015, Samsung isn't Samsung anymore.

The fact, that my Nexus 7 had no MicroSD was a great torture for me.
I had to struggle with Space Storage etc. and i wished to have a Galaxy Note 8.
That time, i was lucky, that Samsung only made devices with MicroSD. But now?
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and you, @bbbobbbo, you understand, why i truly hate Samsungs 2015 changes. I truly don't like, what Samsung did in 2015. And many other Samsuns costumers also don't.

Samsung shrinks the battery size just to make the device thinner and to look more stylish. But that's not important at all.
If you're in survival mode, battery size will be much more useful than a good design.
If you're alone in a dark wood with a Galaxy S6, your battery charge is 1% and you've got a second battery with 73% charge (but you can't insert it), then the good design of the S6 won't rescue you.
The S5 has a greater and removable battery, which is able to rescue you from there.
Also a Nokia 3310 would be better than a Galaxy S6 in this case.
See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/help/thickness-phone-to-batter-battery-life-t3133035

Here is the link to the thread, where you can hope the Note 5 to be better: http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/general/samsung-expandable-storage-removable-t3050516/
Thanks @Neo3D

AndroidSon said:
If they remove expandable storage, Note 4 will be my last Note.
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The Note-Smartphone must stay a business-smartphone, not an iPhone Phablet!
And for Business, you'll most likely need MHL, MicroSD and USB 3.0!

Come on,............. why ***** and moan when we all knew what 90+% of "features" and specs the device would be released with before purchase !! It is not "lucky dip", so if you bought the device without doing your homework or with full knowledge of imitations >> live with it or change it (software side) - if possible. That's what XDA-Developers is about
Let's contribute positively instead of breeding negativity >> or move on to a better suited device
Because, I certainly will build and release a custom kernel when source is released and of course, time permitting !!

UpInTheAir said:
Come on,............. why ***** and moan when we all knew what 90+% of "features" and specs the device would be released with before purchase !! It is not "lucky dip", so if you bought the device without doing your homework or with full knowledge of imitations >> live with it or change it (software side) - if possible. That's what XDA-Developers is about
Let's contribute positively instead of breeding negativity >> or move on to a better suited device
Because, I certainly will build and release a custom kernel when source is released and of course, time permitting !!
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We ***** and moan because it's our right to do so on a dedicated forum, for your info.
And i think you totally miss our point: it's NOT that we have actually purchased the device without knowing its specs, and now ***** about it, it is all about that we WILL NO LONGER purchase any other samsung note under current conditions, precisely because WE KNOW the crappy specs, trend and path samsung has decided to go down. It's sort of triggering an alarm bell, if you will.
And no custom kernel in the world will ever compensate for the missing hardware and sensors. They are just missing, end of story.

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We ***** and moan because it's our right to do so on a dedicated forum, for your info.
And i think you totally miss our point: it's NOT that we have actually purchased the device without knowing its specs, and now ***** about it, it is all about that we WILL NO LONGER purchase any other samsung note under current conditions, precisely because WE KNOW the crappy specs, trend and path samsung has decided to go down. It's sort of triggering an alarm bell, if you will.
And no custom kernel in the world will ever compensate for the missing hardware and sensors. They are just missing, end of story.
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Stop whining, and get another phone. END OF STORY !! Who cares about your rant about "crappy" specs, we are proactive here in XDA and maintain a positive attitude rather than moan about a regretful purchase.

UpInTheAir said:
Stop whining, and get another phone. END OF STORY !! Who cares about your rant about "crappy" specs, we are proactive here in XDA and maintain a positive attitude rather than moan about a regretful purchase.
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Why don't you take your pro -activism and go troll somewhere else?
This thread has been specifically opened to WHINE about Note 5, so go open your own thread where you can show your Note 5 fanboys how proactive you are.

I kind of like my note 5 with an 8 core processor and 16mp camera. It's a very fast phone and lollipop 5.1.1 official is awesome. I'm no noob when it comes to running custom roms but I will be doing so as soon as one gets released. The only downfall on the note 5 is no hotspot toggle in settings on the sprint 64gb version. My girlfriend got the s6+edge gold on sprint and the hotspot feature is in settings :/

bbbobbbo said:
We ***** and moan because it's our right to do so on a dedicated forum, for your info.
And i think you totally miss our point: it's NOT that we have actually purchased the device without knowing its specs, and now ***** about it, it is all about that we WILL NO LONGER purchase any other samsung note under current conditions, precisely because WE KNOW the crappy specs, trend and path samsung has decided to go down. It's sort of triggering an alarm bell, if you will.
And no custom kernel in the world will ever compensate for the missing hardware and sensors. They are just missing, end of story.
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@UpInTheAir Yes, this thread is actually dedicated for that. Here, you can post your disappointments.
Samsung is the only Android phone manufacturer, which does not use those crappy virtual on-screen-keys. They suck and eat up 160 Pixels from the Screen.
But Project Zero does stop Samsungs phones to be unique.

ebs512 said:
I kind of like my note 5 with an 8 core processor and 16mp camera. It's a very fast phone and lollipop 5.1.1 official is awesome. I'm no noob when it comes to running custom roms but I will be doing so as soon as one gets released. The only downfall on the note 5 is no hotspot toggle in settings on the sprint 64gb version. My girlfriend got the s6+edge gold on sprint and the hotspot feature is in settings :/
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Yes. I would like Samsung to pack everything in the drop-down-menu like on the Note 3 and the S5. You can access the dropdown menu from everywhere…

bbbobbbo said:
No custom kernel in the world will ever compensate for the missing hardware and sensors. They are just missing, end of story.
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That is also 100% correct.
In my giant post in the Note 4 thread, i mentioned over 20 Missing Hardware Features of ProjectZero Phones and the Note 4.
It's impossible to make an app, which will add MHL or make Data Transfer as fast as the USB 3.0 from the Note 3 and the S5.
No app can measure the air temperature on the S6.
And no costum firmware ROM is able to make the S6 edge usable underwater. Only nanocoating does.
Is there any Application, which makes the S6 battery bigger?
Is there any Application, which makes you able to use MicroSD on the S6?
Is there any Application, which makes the Note 5 to use USB type C?
You want to present something on your Note 5. The TV does not support screen mirroring but has HDMI. Is there any app, which can help me there? The ProjectZero USB Port does not support MHL! It will destroy MHL!
Is there any Application to make EFUse revertable?
And is there any Application, which will make you able to listen to Radio on the Note 4, without using up Internet Traffic? (UKW-Radio does not require Internet Connection)
Is there any application, which can detect your finger, if you hover it over your touchscreen, without touching the screen itself?
S4: Yes
Note 3: Yes
Alpha: Yes.
But S6 and Note 5 are newer than Note 3. So they must have this feature, but they don't!
Is there any way to make the Note 5 to measure the humidity of the air?
Easy answer @UpInTheAir:
NO. There is no way.
I'm very sorry to say that, but Samsungs good times seem to be over.
 @hella356 - Let's hope the -E models to have all sensors too.
 @bbbobbbo: Your Posts were simply great. You know, what i mean :laugh:

UpInTheAir said:
Come on,............. why ***** and moan when we all knew what 90+% of "features" and specs the device would be released with before purchase !! It is not "lucky dip", so if you bought the device without doing your homework or with full knowledge of imitations >> live with it or change it (software side) - if possible. That's what XDA-Developers is about
Let's contribute positively instead of breeding negativity >> or move on to a better suited device
Because, I certainly will build and release a custom kernel when source is released and of course, time permitting !!
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Your comment makes no sense. If consumers did not demand what we want, then smartphones will still have 3.5" screens like Steve Jobs originally intended.
Also, demand is an important part of one of the foundations of capitalism which is: SUPPLY & DEMAND.
Lastly, how can your kernel make up for the loss of ability to add 128gb storage to phone? Are you going to use file compression on everything to squeeze more space out of it? Windows has this already and it runs SLOW AS HELL.
How can your kernel DOUBLE or TRIPLE the real battery life? A replaceable battery lets us DOUBLE and TRIPLE the battery life by swapping out batteries, which takes <20 seconds.
Thanks for contributing but your statements MAKE NO SENSE.

I intend to buy a Note 5.
After reading this post, I still want to buy it LOL

Neo3D said:
Your comment makes no sense. If consumers did not demand what we want, then smartphones will still have 3.5" screens like Steve Jobs originally intended.
Also, demand is an important part of one of the foundations of capitalism which is: SUPPLY & DEMAND.
Lastly, how can your kernel make up for the loss of ability to add 128gb storage to phone? Are you going to use file compression on everything to squeeze more space out of it? Windows has this already and it runs SLOW AS HELL.
How can your kernel DOUBLE or TRIPLE the real battery life? A replaceable battery lets us DOUBLE and TRIPLE the battery life by swapping out batteries, which takes <20 seconds.
Thanks for contributing but your statements MAKE NO SENSE.
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Please actually read my post. If you don't understand the gist, then don't bother replying......
I implied for users to be pro-active in things they actually CAN change (software). Obviously nothing can be done about hardware ......
I only commented about what I intend to do (as far as actually CONTRIBUTING TO XDA - instead of moaning which contribute NOTHING).
You know how many times I bricked my new device today,...... lost count. Was trying to port CF-AUTOROOT to our shiny new toy !! Just failed the last little bit on flash. Maybe the binary just doesn't work with 7420 5.1.1 yet or Sepolicy ?
Why knowingly buy a car with no wheels and complain when you can't go anywhere. Think about it :what:

Anyone Else Disappointed with Gear Image Quality?

Having spent way too many hours trying to perfect my own DIY HMD, I thought I'd found the solution: I could just buy a Note 4, buy a Gear, and be done with it ( at least until the Rift is released).
Got my Gear today, and ... I can't get over how poor the image quality is. It's not the Note 4 screen, which is fine, it's the lenses on the Gear. When I look at a screen capture on my HMD (using the Note 4 as a screen), and then look at it on the Gear, the same image seems drastically different: zoomed in, with pixels the size of baseballs drowning out all sense of immersion. I tried a 1080p video on the Oculus Theater ... it was so pixelated it reminded me of watching videos on my old psp ...
In every other respect the Gear beats my DIY HMD hands down, but in this one--I would argue very important area--it absolutely does not.
Am I the only one who had this experience?

I agree with you that the image quality is still not good enough to replace mediums like a TV or monitor. This is for sure one reason why it will not find mass adoption right now. You must understand that this are really early days of consumer VR now and until today there is no "real" consumer ready HMD on the market.
ad. Gear VR lenses:
They really could have used better optics but then the price would be not "consumer friendly" then - also the DK2 lenses are crap in my opinion but it seems the market for good vr optics also just have been awaken.
I remember my first VR experience was with a homemade cardboard-design HMD using good lenses from high grade binoculars. They were heavy (as glass made) and the achieved FOV was not really great but it was crystal clear and nearly zero SDE. When i got my DK2 i was really disappointed to see this big pixel party! But realizing what a great FOV and the right software can achieve (a kind of presence) i knew we have to go for great FOV if VR should be a new medium and not only a image/movie viewer.

Thanks for the detailed response!
I think Samsung/Oculus tipped the balance WAY too far toward FOV at the expense of SDE.

Haints said:
Thanks for the detailed response!
I think Samsung/Oculus tipped the balance WAY too far toward FOV at the expense of SDE.
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Personally I prefer a larger FOV, and think you get the best experience with the foams removed (only have some on my nose). Would never choose a smaller FOV just for slightly less of a SDE as that would totally kill the immersion for me. Hoping for 4K full RGB screens in two years time.

Agree with you
I for one absolutely agree with you. got mine 2 days ago and yeah the experience is nice but the image quality is fuzzy or blurry, it would be nice if someone can mod a lens on to the Gear VR to sharpen the quality.
my question: is this issue addressed in the upcoming drift in 2016?
Haints said:
Having spent way too many hours trying to perfect my own DIY HMD, I thought I'd found the solution: I could just buy a Note 4, buy a Gear, and be done with it ( at least until the Rift is released).
Got my Gear today, and ... I can't get over how poor the image quality is. It's not the Note 4 screen, which is fine, it's the lenses on the Gear. When I look at a screen capture on my HMD (using the Note 4 as a screen), and then look at it on the Gear, the same image seems drastically different: zoomed in, with pixels the size of baseballs drowning out all sense of immersion. I tried a 1080p video on the Oculus Theater ... it was so pixelated it reminded me of watching videos on my old psp ...
In every other respect the Gear beats my DIY HMD hands down, but in this one--I would argue very important area--it absolutely does not.
Am I the only one who had this experience?
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To be very very honest, Im not disappointed about it at all. The tech is really young, the Note4 was only compatible with the innovator and development editions of the hardware. I cant comment on the quality improvement between the devices. But with a Note5 and a consumer version, Im getting exactly what I thought id be getting. Very bleeding edge technology that hasn't even gotten off the runway but is far ahead than anything else on the consumer market today.

Remember this: 100$ ..................... if you want something better, the next step is 600$ and only in march.
Also, this is technically not even an official 1st gen device. It's a slightly better draft than the slightly better draft of the previous editions. I think oculus and samsung partnered to use Galaxy users as a sort of Beta test. This technology obviously is the future, but as of now, its still a foetus. I have a Note 5, one of the most powerful smartphones in the world, and yet, the VR uses 98% of the phones performance. The battery drains within 1h practically and it generates so much heat it would probably keep your coffee warm in winter.
I bought one of the best rated VR headsets on amazon as a gift for my nephew, it cost me half of what my GearVR cost me, and it doesnt even come close to offer what Samsung does. The ONLY thing it does better, it it has almost no light leak. Thats also the only thing i can ***** about the GearVR, i would have liked a black background around lenses and thicker padding around face, or at least, an extra strip of padding we can patch the light leaks (also a carrying bag would have been nice even if it was cheap).
This GearVR sould have been called the "Early Bird Edition". We all are early adopters, I can tell you one thing, for 100$, I have impressed 100% of the people that put the headset on, and not only impressed, amazed. And 3 weeks later, i'm still being impressed by the new thing I find I can do, explore or play.
As for the pixels, it would take an 8K screen 3 inches from our face to not see them. I didnt know this until recently when the app froze on me but out the the entire screen realestate, only a very small portion is used for a majority of content. So yeah, that 1080p content you are watching, not exactly trueHD
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I might have made it a bit small, but not by much.
P.S. Not a big fan of the super mega studio adult films, but they have actually some of the highest quality videos out there, there are some samples floating around, its quite impressive.

Over the moon with mine, can watch full length movies with ease Tonto being one of them, battery no problem here with an s6 edge plus, but use mine on wifi only usually, and I have facebook blather and g+ disabled, and nothing polling ,email etc. all on manual , usually use unit at 4 to 5 on its brightness slide ,not aware of any light leak in my experience.
Everyone without exception who has tried it is blown away, I own my favourite phone anyway and then this appears, an accessory for $99 with this level of experience, if you are fortunate to be able to afford it without neglecting your life and dependants needs.......who wouldn't . If apple had released this exact same item with their logo ,the media would have eaten it alive with cream and the public would too, and, when they do, they will, we all
know this is in its infancy, but its a great place to be, the next advance in screen resolution will nail it, when your looking at a 25 foot screen with the clarity of a samsung big tv quality ,you, entertainment wise, have arrived.
plus, keep em like new guys, when it comes time to upgrade, this will practically sell your phone for you...maybe. lol.

Love mine too. Have had it since the day after Thanksgiving, and still using it a lot daily. There is a "screen door effect" to it, but the resolution is still clear and bright on movies. I put on some 3D movies last week, and they look great, and are easy to watch. Games like Herobound and Gunjack are also stunning and extremely fun with a controller to play. Samsung Internet browser is great, but don't count on all content to be great quality. There are some good 3D video samples on Youtube through the browser though. Also just looked through some Experiences in the Oculus Video app tonight, like going to the Electric Daisy Carnival. Again, quality of that video not great, but still a fun experience to see what it would be like to be there.

SDE is overpowering and both sides of the screen out of focus - in my experience. Its a cool toy but nothing I would use for any length of time. This is with the Note 5.
That being said, the tech should probably be good in a year or so.

Photo quality

Say "cheese", then rate this thread to express how photos taken with the Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra come out. A higher rating indicates that photos offer rich color (without over-saturating), sharp detail (with all subjects in-focus), and appropriate exposure (with even lighting).
Then, drop a comment if you have anything to add!

https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjQ2s_Aj9N/?igshid=1dxoigutseqyk
Went to local galaxy unpacked event and tried the camera. PROMISING! Definitely better than the whole S20 ultra fiasco

Had a hands on, the focus issue is completely gone. This is by far the fastest one yet. Pictures are also a lot better than the S20 ultra....over contrast and sharpening is not there and looks to be finally what they promised.
Unfortunately at the mall the zoom lens didn't look as good to me....still pics at a distance were good, but anything with a a slight movement was a mess with the periscope camera. Also, the images were terrible compared to note 10 plus from 2x-4.9x, which I'm assuming was just a crop from the main pic as opposed to the telephoto from Note 10 plus. Ultra wide I preferred note 10 plus for some reason....tad more in the image and more details.
Just my 2 cents...getting free buds live , 256 gb storage, Exynos 990 for 1225 dollars in UAE - edit * freaking thing is only 8GB RAM at this price.....insane

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I use a program called Cam Scanner a lot.
Things like asset tags and some field documents/plates on turbines, et al.
Never had an issue with clarity until the S20 Ultra. The focus uniformity across the frame, frankly, sucks! With the camera app I can usually find a somewhat happy medium. But I don't like it and on a $1450 flagship device, it's unacceptable!
HOPEFULLY, the Note20 Ultra does NOT have this issue. Is it a dealbreaker? Depends on how much better "everything else" is compared to the S20 Ultra. Since e-sim is about as useful as tits on a bull in the US, I have to carry two phones, the second being an iPhone 11 Pro Max. Camscanner works beautifully on that.
Thanks to the pandemic, my live gig days have come to a fat screeching halt, so recording live music isn't happening so any enhancements to video in that regard aren't going to matter much. Alternate audio sources may get rid of the metallic rain sound when recording outdoors in the wind, and I will be curious as to what mics will work. That could be interesting.

Some photos from local best buy

Pretty much if you like Samsung's photos on previous phones then you'll like the ones from this phone. The photos have the same look i.e. colorful and bright exposure.
Night photos look slightly improved and so does tele photos.

Definite improvement on night mode from s20u..
(Exynos)

cpufrost said:
I use a program called Cam Scanner a lot.
Things like asset tags and some field documents/plates on turbines, et al.
Never had an issue with clarity until the S20 Ultra. The focus uniformity across the frame, frankly, sucks! With the camera app I can usually find a somewhat happy medium. But I don't like it and on a $1450 flagship device, it's unacceptable!
HOPEFULLY, the Note20 Ultra does NOT have this issue. Is it a dealbreaker? Depends on how much better "everything else" is compared to the S20 Ultra. Since e-sim is about as useful as tits on a bull in the US, I have to carry two phones, the second being an iPhone 11 Pro Max. Camscanner works beautifully on that.
Thanks to the pandemic, my live gig days have come to a fat screeching halt, so recording live music isn't happening so any enhancements to video in that regard aren't going to matter much. Alternate audio sources may get rid of the metallic rain sound when recording outdoors in the wind, and I will be curious as to what mics will work. That could be interesting.
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I love CamScanner! As a teacher, I use it all the time!! I hope I don't have issues with this phone with that app.

PsiPhiDan said:
I love CamScanner! As a teacher, I use it all the time!! I hope I don't have issues with this phone with that app.
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Microsoft's Lens Scanner does a great job, too! Especially if you're heavily invested in Microsoft apps like Office 365.

Allesa said:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CDjQ2s_Aj9N/?igshid=1dxoigutseqyk
Went to local galaxy unpacked event and tried the camera. PROMISING! Definitely better than the whole S20 ultra fiasco
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Holy smokes, the Note 20 Ultra's pic is MUCH better in that side-by-side comparison.

I took quick photos of my dog in normal Auto Mode to compare how my S20 Ultra (Left) processed the image vs. how the new Note 20 Ultra (Right) fared. I already knew my S20U struggled in less than perfect lighting & with fur textures, so I was curious if the N20U did too.
I'm glad the Note 20U has significantly improved processing right out of the box (even after the S20U's many updates, which did very little). Is it actually possible for the the S20U to be updated to be on par with the N20U? From walking around & taking random everyday photos, the differences in image processing have been pretty staggering between the 2 phones despite their similar hardware.

I feel you there ... I'm local 33 in la... I miss working the shows too.

With you on the 10+ comparison. I was shocked actually to see my 10+ take better pics

Disappointed in the pictures compared to my note 10+. The pictures seem overly exposed and really colorful

The night mode is terrible compared to my s20 ultra! I'm starting to think something is wrong. I took the same photo at the same time and the s20 ultra is clear while the Note is grainy and no detail. Anyone else having this issue?

devilsmack said:
The night mode is terrible compared to my s20 ultra! I'm starting to think something is wrong. I took the same photo at the same time and the s20 ultra is clear while the Note is grainy and no detail. Anyone else having this issue?
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I'm getting the opposite N20U better than S20U both exynos

Note 10 + still Image quality Tops Note 20 Ultra Images for me
Note 10+ is the more interesting comparison vs S20+. Have them all
With all but images beyond ^ 5X and Night Mode the 10+ pics are just richer and more vibrant.
Saw this on a number of UTube comparisons so have checked repeatedly.
Sure enough it's true.

devilsmack said:
The night mode is terrible compared to my s20 ultra! I'm starting to think something is wrong. I took the same photo at the same time and the s20 ultra is clear while the Note is grainy and no detail. Anyone else having this issue?
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Absolutely! Especially at 10X, the S20U blows the Note 20 Ultra out of the water.
And space zoom, 50X on both phones looks nearly identical.
This is definitely a downgrade especially if you had the 16GB RAM on the S20 Ultra.
This is essentially an S20 Ultra, aka gimped, with a bigger screen and s-pen.
Definitely disappointed, usually the Note series stands out from the S series. This is essentially a sidegrade at best and if you're noticing these things, a big disappointment.
Kind of silly my nearly year old 11 Pro Max camera trashes this one, especially video and night mode. iOS 14 night mode is incredible!

The funny thing is if you read note 10's plus topic for the camera it turns out s10s camera was better, if you read, s10s topic it turns out note 9s camera was better... You get the point, hah? To me the camera is great, and don't forget that it's just the start of the note 20s life cycle and the quality will improve significantly with the software updates.