As I'm getting a new phone for free (Galaxy S2) and the S1's sound quality is far superior I'm thinking of using it as an music player purely for AUX in the car. The current problem is that the charging port in the car is broken for now, so an battery saving rom is required for long time usage without having to charge the phone outside the car too often.
I'm really fond of the stock Samsung music player and currently running XWJWB with Semaphore because of that. Is there a setup that is more battery friendly and stable? (The phone will be used without an SIM-card and in airplane mode so I guess modems dosen't play a big part in battery life?)
If AOSP roms should prove themselves to be more battery friendly I'd gladly accept any suggestions for non-stock music players too, but in my opinion stock roms have the best quality!
P.S My *probably* fake 1650mAh battery does not hold it's charge for long nowadays so if anyone would recommend a new not-to-pricey battery I wouldn't be unhappy (1800mAh+/no extended back cover would be optimum)
dumle said:
As I'm getting a new phone for free (Galaxy S2) and the S1's sound quality is far superior I'm thinking of using it as an music player purely for AUX in the car. The current problem is that the charging port in the car is broken for now, so an battery saving rom is required for long time usage without having to charge the phone outside the car too often.
I'm really fond of the stock Samsung music player and currently running XWJWB with Semaphore because of that. Is there a setup that is more battery friendly and stable? (The phone will be used without an SIM-card and in airplane mode so I guess modems dosen't play a big part in battery life?)
If AOSP roms should prove themselves to be more battery friendly I'd gladly accept any suggestions for non-stock music players too, but in my opinion stock roms have the best quality!
P.S My *probably* fake 1650mAh battery does not hold it's charge for long nowadays so if anyone would recommend a new not-to-pricey battery I wouldn't be unhappy (1800mAh+/no extended back cover would be optimum)
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Flash a newer stock firmware. JW6 is really good or JVT. Remove every system app you dont need with nobloat. When your phone is debloated undervolt it and push it down to 800MHZ.
cixty said:
Flash a newer stock firmware. JW6 is really good or JVT. Remove every system app you dont need with nobloat. When your phone is debloated undervolt it and push it down to 800MHZ.
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Well, JWB is actually more recently released than JW6. Thanks for the other tweaks though.
Just to say I've never used the Gear with a Samsung device. I also updated it immediately to Tizen so have no idea what battery life would have been like on Android.
I'm using a Moto G LTE and the gear Manager and Stub apk. It's not rooted or modded in any way. It works fantastically but I'm finding that the battery doesn't even last a day. I have the Gear set up so it only lights up when I press the standby button so aside from incompatibilities or some problem with the flash I've no idea what the problem is. Just wanted to know if I should EXPECT poor battery life with a non-Samsung phone paired to the watch or if I should investigate re-flashing or going back to Android. The Gear is a lovely device but is a bit useless if I can't make it through the day. I'm already down to 91% and I only took it off charge two hours ago.
Does anyone have any advice? If I can expect the battery to be rubbish I might just order an Android Wear watch; though I actually prefer the extra functionality of the Gear.
Thanks in advance.
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leoni1980 said:
Just to say I've never used the Gear with a Samsung device. I also updated it immediately to Tizen so have no idea what battery life would have been like on Android.
I'm using a Moto G LTE and the gear Manager and Stub apk. It's not rooted or modded in any way. It works fantastically but I'm finding that the battery doesn't even last a day. I have the Gear set up so it only lights up when I press the standby button so aside from incompatibilities or some problem with the flash I've no idea what the problem is. Just wanted to know if I should EXPECT poor battery life with a non-Samsung phone paired to the watch or if I should investigate re-flashing or going back to Android. The Gear is a lovely device but is a bit useless if I can't make it through the day. I'm already down to 91% and I only took it off charge two hours ago.
Does anyone have any advice? If I can expect the battery to be rubbish I might just order an Android Wear watch; though I actually prefer the extra functionality of the Gear.
Thanks in advance.
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Do you have Bluetooth tethering enabled and so you use Bluetooth often?
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Do you have Bluetooth tethering enabled and so you use Bluetooth often?
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How do you mean? The only thing I use Bluetooth for is the watch, other than the odd occasion at home when I connect a Bluetooth speaker.
The only notifications I have it set to send to the device are Robird and Hangouts. Nothing else is set to notify me. Not even Gmail.
It's not tethered to the internet via my phone if that's what you mean. Not even sure that's possible on Tizen. It just is set to send notifications from two ticked third party apps and for phone calls. Brightness is set to 3 and auto wake with hand movement is switched off. Battery now down to 82% with basically no use whatsoever other than being connected.
leoni1980 said:
How do you mean? The only thing I use Bluetooth for is the watch, other than the odd occasion at home when I connect a Bluetooth speaker.
The only notifications I have it set to send to the device are Robird and Hangouts. Nothing else is set to notify me. Not even Gmail.
It's not tethered to the internet via my phone if that's what you mean. Not even sure that's possible on Tizen. It just is set to send notifications from two ticked third party apps and for phone calls. Brightness is set to 3 and auto wake with hand movement is switched off. Battery now down to 82% with basically no use whatsoever other than being connected.
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Yes, I was talking about Bluetooth tethering to the internet which can really affect battery. On Android (not Tizen), I would expect battery usage to be about 2% per hour with very light usage.
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Yes, I was talking about Bluetooth tethering to the internet which can really affect battery. On Android (not Tizen), I would expect battery usage to be about 2% per hour with very light usage.
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OK, I did a hard reset via the recovery menu on the Gear and it seems to have improved things. Currently on 96% after over 4 hours. Still only have two apps set to give notifications - SMS and WhatsApp - and only when phone screen is off. Also still have auto screen activate switched off. Not really sure what sort of battery life to expect but this is better at least!
Hi!
Since last year, I got the problem that my P990 is discharging very fast. Commonly the battery needed to be charged once a day, but now it's twice, at least!
Of course, the first thing I did was to buy a new battery. It's an original LG battery, but nothing changed. I also tried one of these big batteries with 2800mAh, but even that didn't change much.
I tried several CFWs and Kernels, at the moment the phone's running on [4.4.4][P990][AOSPA] ParanoidAndroid 4.6, 2.6.39.4-Kowalski-Stable-M1 Kernel.
The strange thing is, the battery's even draining, when the phone's turned off. If it's charged to 100% and then turned off, the next day, the battery is below 1%, the phone can't be turned on due to the low charge.
I'm not sure, if it's really a software problem, there are no special apps installed, it's just the ParanoidAndroid without anything special installed.
Anyone who could help me, please?
I also suffer battery drain in "doing nothing" mode - deep sleep mostly. I even switch off mobile data. It is not normal the battery to be drained completely for about two days when the phone just stays on the table in deep sleep with mobile data switched off. Anyone could help us?
tonyp final build cm-11-20150703-final-bcmdhd-3.1-p990, firtecy kernel 3.1 exp-5 32MB RH
vanko11595 said:
I also suffer battery drain in "doing nothing" mode - deep sleep mostly. I even switch off mobile data. It is not normal the battery to be drained completely for about two days when the phone just stays on the table in deep sleep with mobile data switched off. Anyone could help us?
tonyp final build cm-11-20150703-final-bcmdhd-3.1-p990, firtecy kernel 3.1 exp-5 32MB RH
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This phone had the longest stand-by life with temasek CM 7.1, I could go 12 hours and lose only 1-2% which is impossible with current android versions, not my SG4 or my galaxy tab 4 7" do that, they lose 3% idle in just 1 hour.
Also by this time your battery is already over 2 years. Its current capacity may be well half what it used to be when brand new. Buying a new one won't help that much because it might be at around 70-80% capacity at best because of time. Then again 2 batteries are better than 1.
if you can you should get a new phone, they are better in every way and only $150 dollars which is more than what our optimus 2x is worth now-a-days. I use it 24 hours on hooked at the back of my TV as an android TV :silly:
Justray said:
I use it 24 hours on hooked at the back of my TV as an android TV :silly:
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i was thinking about doing this as well... can you pm me how did you hook it (which rom - i presume some of the older cm's since hdmi doesn't work on newer ones, how do you control it etc...) - thanks in advance
or maybe even better - opening a new thread in general section here and explaining all the things for everyone to see
60nine said:
i was thinking about doing this as well... can you pm me how did you hook it (which rom - i presume some of the older cm's since hdmi doesn't work on newer ones, how do you control it etc...) - thanks in advance
or maybe even better - opening a new thread in general section here and explaining all the things for everyone to see
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Pretty simple, any stock based rom works great, old GB has HDMI with quality selector, ICS has only HDMI output at 1080i/720p.
I stuck it inside a project box and I screw it behind my TV, used the USB port on the TV to keep it powered all the time but just remember to take out the battery or it will die (puff). Charge the battery to 100% then store.
Caution, not all USB ports form TVs are friendly so do like me and cut the data lines and use only the red/black wires (outer pins in the USB).
Lastly a mini keyboard with touch pad is what I use to control it... and a iPega gamepad for gaming. Doesn't work in GB stock roms so you got to use ICS/CM roms for it to work.
P.M. If you got any doubts
Justray said:
Pretty simple, any stock based rom works great, old GB has HDMI with quality selector, ICS has only HDMI output at 1080i/720p.
I stuck it inside a project box and I screw it behind my TV, used the USB port on the TV to keep it powered all the time but just remember to take out the battery or it will die (puff). Charge the battery to 100% then store.
Caution, not all USB ports form TVs are friendly so do like me and cut the data lines and use only the red/black wires (outer pins in the USB).
Lastly a mini keyboard with touch pad is what I use to control it... and a iPega gamepad for gaming. Doesn't work in GB stock roms so you got to use ICS/CM roms for it to work.
P.M. If you got any doubts
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good... i'll play with this when i catch some free time... thanks :good:
Which rom exactly did you use? Just need full HDMI Support and stable rom. i dont care about gaming performance or something like this.
Battery problem is such a disaster for android users I have found this nice Best portable chargers and power banks review page here check out before buying one !!!
Hi there,
since I don't want to root my main phone (don't want to hassle around with some apps that try to block on rooted phones, and also don't want to enable that stupid google voice assistant to use google maps and so on) I want to buy a phone just for Android Auto. This phone will be rooted and stay in the car all time, it could also get a custom ROM. Since I don't have any experience with AA mirror yet and also not that much experience with rooting, it would be great if you have some suggestions what I could get for this use case.
From what I found here so far, the requirements seem to be:
- easy to root
- possible to install custom roms
- will have the display turned on (for AA mirror) for several hours whenever traveling a longer distance
-- maybe heat could be an issue?
- should not have the cheapest battery since it will be charged for long times when traveling as well as not charged at all for several days
-- unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be smartphones anymore that can be used with batteries pulled out
-- is there anything to be considered because of the always-usb-connected use case
- preferably a cheap model from a premium manufacturer
Any suggestion for my decicion or experience with a dedicated phone would be helpful.
Have you considered a raspberry pi?
There are plug n play rom do get that up and running as a AA display
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can you please hep me with the raspberry pi to make aa diplay for my skoda bolero mib 2.0 android auto?
Every phone should work.
It's only important that you use an app like Automate to put the phone into airplane mode whenever the cable is disconnected (=car head unit shut off). This requires root.
I personally use an old Galaxy S4 with ridicously bad battery health and it stays on for around 2 days without driving. It charges while you're driving, of course.
No issues with heat. I keep it in the burning hot glovebox.
I am doing this for a year now. I use an old nexus 5x.
Until now i had a original based custom rom, but just ysterday i wanted to refresh some things so i installed slim rom. (It is very light and dont have play services. I then installed pico gapps. It is the lighter you can flash so that android auto to work).
I use 7.1.2 custom rom because i think is better for android auto.
Anyway what i have:
-I used a switch (on/of), soldered in a cable so tha start / stop android auto just by turning on/off the switch.
- I disabled completely lockscreen. Set brightness to min and disable auto brightness.
- Use titanium to freeze whatever i don't need. Many things including phone app, etc)
- I used tasker. 2 conditions:
When phone doesn't charge set battery save mode.
When car mode is enabled (which means android auto is running) enable wifi on, location on etc. When car mode of disable all, also kill 20 apps (so that no app stay in background so no battery consumption when android auto goes off).
(some use only charging condition but my setup is more complicated so this works fantastic.)
With this, i practically can use android auto without ever battery discharge. When phone doesn't change and android auto doesn't run, battery consumption is very very low. It can Last more than 20 days and battery is very old.
I actually have some more complicated setup. When switch is off i change from another usb of the car (not the one i use for android auto). I have in this usb a changer with more amper to charge faster when i don't use android auto..
I don't propose it as this is much difficult for the average person. Just write it as an idea if car doesn't change fast (this happens in my car).
I posted my use / ideas. Some may be useful to some, some other not.
I may post a video here displaying it some time when i found time and tasker setup if anyone need it as many wants this. I have read alot to do this in varius sites.
I'll post it here also:
I made a 4 minutes video displaying android auto mirroring in my car, with some apps and a dedicated phone with a switch for this. It may give some ideas:
sosimple said:
I'll post it here also:
I made a 4 minutes video displaying android auto mirroring in my car, with some apps and a dedicated phone with a switch for this. It may give some ideas:
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Hi .
What rom do you recommend for S5?
juanmontequinto said:
Hi .
What rom do you recommend for S5?
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You mean galaxy s5?, I don't have s5. I had it in past. I would install something similar to the rom i installed to nexus 5x i have.
The lighter nougat rom with pico gapps.
If it goes ok with battery consumpsion an especially standby time you keep it. If not try another one.
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You mean galaxy s5?, I don't have s5. I had it in past. I would install something similar to the rom i installed to nexus 5x i have.
The lighter nougat rom with pico gapps.
If it goes ok with battery consumpsion an especially standby time you keep it. If not try another one.
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Thanks for the advice :bueno:
i did it using mi 6a. it auto boot and auto off upon detection upon power on
search on xda on how to auto power on device. many device can do this
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cboghiu said:
can you please hep me with the raspberry pi to make aa diplay for my skoda bolero mib 2.0 android auto?
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Take a look at this guys solution.
https://youtu.be/Puk_pzMGd7c
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Thank you for all the suggestions so far.
sosimple said:
I am doing this for a year now. I use an old nexus 5x.
I actually have some more complicated setup. When switch is off i change from another usb of the car (not the one i use for android auto). I have in this usb a changer with more amper to charge faster when i don't use android auto..
I don't propose it as this is much difficult for the average person. Just write it as an idea if car doesn't change fast (this happens in my car).
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I remember that I read somewhere that Android Auto only needs the data wires from the USB cable so it would be possible to connect only the two data wires to the cars USB port and the other two wires to a fast charger, I think there even are prebuild Y-like cables that do exactly this.
But I'm not sure if this still works as expected since nowadays we have USB-C connectors and a lot of different fast charging standards. Some require the data cables to be short cutted (so you cannot use data at the same time) while others send different voltage impulses as handshakes to determine the charger type.
But maybe it is worth looking into this topic for you (and maybe for me aswell if I will encounter the same issue).
Doesn't look like this would be working, found a thread here about it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an.../usb-y-cable-to-quick-charge-android-t3448805
WieselDroid said:
Thank you for all the suggestions so far.
I remember that I read somewhere that Android Auto only needs the data wires from the USB cable so it would be possible to connect only the two data wires to the cars USB port and the other two wires to a fast charger, I think there even are prebuild Y-like cables that do exactly this.
But I'm not sure if this still works as expected since nowadays we have USB-C connectors and a lot of different fast charging standards. Some require the data cables to be short cutted (so you cannot use data at the same time) while others send different voltage impulses as handshakes to determine the charger type.
But maybe it is worth looking into this topic for you (and maybe for me aswell if I will encounter the same issue).
Doesn't look like this would be working, found a thread here about it: https://forum.xda-developers.com/an.../usb-y-cable-to-quick-charge-android-t3448805
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You read my mind..
That i was thinking to do in future. I just dont change anything yet as everything working perfect.
But i think more would become simplier if i connect only the 2 data cables in car usb of android auto (or the 3rd cable , earth, also), and charging from the other usb with the fast charger.
As i remember it was working when i experimended.
Hello. I have a problem. I have an S7, Oneplus 3t with carteam enabled (the car is skoda Octavia 3 with bolero mib 2). The problem is that the image on youtube is lagging and on storage all that are over 360p are lagging. What I am doing wrong? Please help me
Hi guys, Is possible connect 2 phones to car?
I explain my case, I have a Sync3 (Ford), with 2 USB, my plan is use an old Xperia ARC to install AA mirror, and use my first phone for use with android auto..
Is possible this?
Xperia is easy rooteable, my first phone is a Huawei P20 Pro without root.
Thanks in advance!!!!
pajarito3003 said:
Hi guys, Is possible connect 2 phones to car?
I explain my case, I have a Sync3 (Ford), with 2 USB, my plan is use an old Xperia ARC to install AA mirror, and use my first phone for use with android auto..
Is possible this?
Xperia is easy rooteable, my first phone is a Huawei P20 Pro without root.
Thanks in advance!!!!
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Sorry, haven't seen this post. I think it is not possible with both USBs but you can put one phone to the usb and use it as a forwarder for the other phone.
https://www.xda-developers.com/wireless-android-auto-head-unit-hack/
WieselDroid said:
Hi there,
since I don't want to root my main phone (don't want to hassle around with some apps that try to block on rooted phones, and also don't want to enable that stupid google voice assistant to use google maps and so on) I want to buy a phone just for Android Auto. This phone will be rooted and stay in the car all time, it could also get a custom ROM. Since I don't have any experience with AA mirror yet and also not that much experience with rooting, it would be great if you have some suggestions what I could get for this use case.
From what I found here so far, the requirements seem to be:
- easy to root
- possible to install custom roms
- will have the display turned on (for AA mirror) for several hours whenever traveling a longer distance
-- maybe heat could be an issue?
- should not have the cheapest battery since it will be charged for long times when traveling as well as not charged at all for several days
-- unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be smartphones anymore that can be used with batteries pulled out
-- is there anything to be considered because of the always-usb-connected use case
- preferably a cheap model from a premium manufacturer
Any suggestion for my decicion or experience with a dedicated phone would be helpful.
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I'm confused. Why does a phone using android auto have to be rooted?
well,
i been doing for the past 4 years already. you can use non root device but you miss out on video play on the car screen.
i am using redmi 4x and redmi 3, both because the availability of custom rom. but i didn use custom rom because it seems the custom roam break data and sms.
not all old phone can be use because on certain devices, android auto takes ages to connect to satellite. for example i hav tried S4, huawei mate 7, Vivo V9, all these device have problem with gps connection, sometimes didn't connect to satellite at all. it seems the low end android device release before 2016 have this issues. i think it also because of my geographic location whic require a-gps, glonass and bds, the only it work.
heating issues, yes, it exist but i use kernal app to limit the max core speed. that it works.
the other reason i chose redmi because the ability to modify the init.rc file to make the device to auto boot when i start the car.
and to turn off the device automatically when you exit the car, i use microdroid and power unplug. apk, which only available on aptoid.
i also create a macro, to send my car location to me incase of theft.[emoji1696]
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I'm looking into doing this. I have an old Sony Z5 Compact but if I recall, it was too slow for AA. Therefore, I'd appreciate any recommendations for a cheap used phone I could buy.
I'm thinking it has to have:
1. Good GPS
2. Ability to Charge faster than it can drain
3. nanoSIM
4. Ability to root for things like init.rc for autoboot.
5. Fast boot time would be nice but perhaps I can use tasker/automate to have it goto deep sleep when its not charging
Ideally, a cheap used unlocked phone I can buy on ebay. Just searching specs, I'm thinking perhaps a Moto G Stylus, Xiomi Poco M3. I also have an old Pixel XL but I'm saving that for unlimited google photos
Before my car had android auto, I used an old tablet. It worked OK but the biggest issue was that it could not charge faster than it would drain. The battery would eventually wear down. Also, after a while, AA would just crash. Ofcourse, here, I'm just mirroring so it is a little different.
eng3 said:
I'm looking into doing this. I have an old Sony Z5 Compact but if I recall, it was too slow for AA. Therefore, I'd appreciate any recommendations for a cheap used phone I could buy.
I'm thinking it has to have:
1. Good GPS
2. Ability to Charge faster than it can drain
3. nanoSIM
4. Ability to root for things like init.rc for autoboot.
5. Fast boot time would be nice but perhaps I can use tasker/automate to have it goto deep sleep when its not charging
Ideally, a cheap used unlocked phone I can buy on ebay. Just searching specs, I'm thinking perhaps a Moto G Stylus, Xiomi Poco M3. I also have an old Pixel XL but I'm saving that for unlimited google photos
Before my car had android auto, I used an old tablet. It worked OK but the biggest issue was that it could not charge faster than it would drain. The battery would eventually wear down. Also, after a while, AA would just crash. Ofcourse, here, I'm just mirroring so it is a little different.
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I wrote above as "sosimple" but it now shows me "deleted member" due to a problem in xda forum through its moving period, that accidentally deleted my account.
Anyways, as i wrote i have an old nexus 5x. Its not the best for the work, but it does it.
If i was going to get one phone for this now, i would search something better. Probably is a good solution to buy a used phone with broken (but working) screen to get it very cheap.
4-5. I think is difficult to find one who does this. I couldn't do it in Nexus 5x (although i read it can be done) so i used a different approach :
2 Tasker scripts to watch if car mode is enabled or not.
-When android auto running, car mode is enabled automatically, tasker script1 run so do what you need then eg turn on Bluetooth, gps, normal battery mode etc..
-When android auto is off, car mode disabled automatically tasker script2 run so disable Bluetooth, GPS, enable battery light consumption mode, flight mode, etc.
This way nexus 5x (and probably most phones) loose 1-2% battery in standby mode per day, so you don't actually needs to power off phone, and it boots to android auto much faster (5 seconds in Nexus). Especially if you debloat phone. I have deleted (or freeze with titanium) most of android. Keep only what needed for android auto and mirroring to work. I did this not only for battery but also for speed.
2. As i wrote before, i have created a cable with a switch:
-when turn on switch phone connect to car usb for android auto, so android auto runs.
But i do have the problem of phone drain faster than charging. It depends of the car. If the usb for android auto charges slow, you can't do anything for this. I didn't have much problem because the battery still last for 6 hours continually.
-When turn off the switch, disconnect phone from car usb for android auto (so android auto stops in phone and in car), and connecting the phone to a 2nd usb of the car where i have a fast usb charger.
This way battery is always charged.
I use it more than 2 years this way, everything works fine.
But there is probably a better solution that i may try in future.
For understanding what i will write (i have created the cable 2 years ago so i dont remember exactly how), I'll post some info, and Google it for more:
A usb cable have 5 wires inside. 2 are for data, 2 for power +-, and 1 for grounding.
So you can create a cable which the 2 cables for +- will go to a fast usb charger. This way phone will always charge fast (faster than it drain) when car in on.
The other 2 wires and ground will go to the car usb for android auto.
You will have a Y cable with 3 usb: the 1st goes to phone, the 2nd go to the (fast) charger, the 3rd go to car usb for android auto.
I have try this and worked. You don't have to charge phone from the same usb which use android auto.
English is not my native language, i hope everyone who reads to understand what i write.
If i do this method I'll post the wiring.
This is my old video, i have change many things from then, I'll post another one some time.