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My gear is supposed to be delivered today. I downloaded everything i need to root and customize it. I was wondering if there was anyway to use an app lie juice defender to improve battery life. If so, which app is preferred?
Turn off the wrist watch gesture and your fine. A normal use for me drains about 15-20% / 24h..
That's right ! Just turning off the wrist gesture to wake the gear the battery is consuming between 1 5 / 20 % a day / . Merry Christmas.
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Thanks for the info. I had one other question but I didn't want to start another thread. Does NFC need to be enable on the note 3 in order to pair with the gear?
Yea at the time of setting up ur gear bt after that u just need bluetooth to usd gear
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Does that mean you have use the button every time you want to see the time?
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Does that mean you have use the button every time you want to see the time?
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Yes. I have the motion activated... the trick is to turn the screen brightness all the way down. I get about 30% / 24hrs with the motion activated and the screen brightness down.
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Yes. I have the motion activated... the trick is to turn the screen brightness all the way down. I get about 30% / 24hrs with the motion activated and the screen brightness down.
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Thanks for the tip. I had motion deactivated to conserve battery but didn't like having to press the button each time to wake up the watch. 30% a day is not bad at all. I would even take 50%. Anything is better than the 24 hour time I've been seeing posted by reviewers. That worried me a bit. The good thing too is it charges fairly fast. So that 30% drain will be quick to recover.
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in fact, I have 100% a day...but I'm using the iPhone, so I have to keep the bluetooth tethering on all the time.
Thanks for the tips and info. Looking forward to getting it
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in fact, I have 100% a day...but I'm using the iPhone, so I have to keep the bluetooth tethering on all the time.
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people still use iPhones?
My battery life with updated US firmware Null_16 and the Freefalling theme. This is 90% standby time I don't have much time to mess with it at work!
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Do you find that battery life on your connected phone suffers? I know keeping the BT radio on will have an impact, but I noticed I had to change some settings in JuiceDefender to allow the data connection to remain active so that S-Voice will work on the Gear. This, of course, means my phone's radio (data or wifi) is always on, when before I used to let JD turn it off while sleeping.
Haven't had the Gear long enough to tell whether or not this will have a serious impact but wondering if there are any tips? I tried finding a setting in JuiceDefender to only turn the radio on when the S-Voice is activated. Unfortunately, that doesn't work.
please help me.
after null_16 my battery life is short.
after 6 hour (only in watch mode without notify or other) my gear shut down.
could you give some tips for extend the battery life ?
thanks
If I turn off the motion wake feature my Gear will go three to four days easy but if I use motion it won't last longer than 12-14 hours. This is with moderate usage. I get probably a total of 30-40 emails and texts and other notifications a day and maybe 10 phone calls. (Most calls not answered on gear) maybe 3 a day. I would love to be able to use the watch without pushing the button. Even a tap on the screen to wake would be acceptable to me. The pebble uses a shake motion to wake which also is better than the Gear motion. I drive for a living and every turn of the steering wheel activates the screen. (Although battery life is not improved on days off.) if I side load apps will my battery life be severely shortened? And to the person who asked about the Bluetooth running all the time, it doesn't impact the battery life of my phone hardly at all.
Hi guys.
Just wondering - how long are you supposed to get while the watch is tethered to your phone?
Mine is on nulrom v20 - which is great!
When tethered to my note3 - for notifications (email, phone etc) the battery lasts about 5 hours at the very most.
Is this right?
If so - not too impressed really - pretty pointless if the battery wont last a whole working day......
Let me know guys?
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Hi guys.
Just wondering - how long are you supposed to get while the watch is tethered to your phone?
Mine is on nulrom v20 - which is great!
When tethered to my note3 - for notifications (email, phone etc) the battery lasts about 5 hours at the very most.
Is this right?
If so - not too impressed really - pretty pointless if the battery wont last a whole working day......
Let me know guys?
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How about using tethering when you need it ? Why do you need tethering on your gear constantly anyway ? Of coarse your going to get bad battery life..
I get over 8 hours which lasts me a full day of work. Are you using any CPU management program like setcpu?
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Yep. Whats your cpu settings. Got mine ondemand and 400-1600.
Maybe 200-1200 better?
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I'm getting amazing battery life BT tethered with Null 20 as long as I leave the wrist motion turn-on disabled (with that on mine also dies in 5 hours)
I had mine tethered for 12 hours today (I don't need to, but I was just trying it out syncing gmail etc.), and still had 86% left on the battery readout.
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I'm getting amazing battery life BT tethered with Null 20 as long as I leave the wrist motion turn-on disabled (with that on mine also dies in 5 hours)
I had mine tethered for 12 hours today (I don't need to, but I was just trying it out syncing gmail etc.), and still had 86% left on the battery readout.
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I've used tethering since it was available. It hardly had any impact on the watch. My phone battery on the other hand got smashed
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I've used tethering since it was available. It hardly had any impact on the watch. My phone battery on the other hand got smashed
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haha. that is true. fortunately my N3 never suffers from any battery issues when plugged in nightly so i have just been leaving it on or i should say forgetting to turn it off.
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haha. that is true. fortunately my N3 never suffers from any battery issues when plugged in nightly so i have just been leaving it on or i should say forgetting to turn it off.
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hehe, yeah, my phone spends 90% of it's life connected to a charger
Largewoodenspoon said:
Hi guys.
Just wondering - how long are you supposed to get while the watch is tethered to your phone?
Mine is on nulrom v20 - which is great!
When tethered to my note3 - for notifications (email, phone etc) the battery lasts about 5 hours at the very most.
Is this right?
If so - not too impressed really - pretty pointless if the battery wont last a whole working day......
Let me know guys?
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If you are connected just to receive your notification, as a standard gear would, then your battery should last over a day. You probably need to adjust your voltage settings to solve this. I have mine set to max 500Mhz. Then it seems to last like a stock gear.
If you are connected and using Bluetooth tether, which will give you access to browsing, playstore ect on the gear, then your battery will not last at all. Then your gear and phone should theoretically suffer.
How are people retethering? I've just been leaving mine on and can usually go about 2 days with the watch and daily on the phone. I like the idea of periodic tethering, but not sure how to set it up. Going into the settings and turning it on and off each time seems a bit painful?
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If you are connected just to receive your notification, as a standard gear would, then your battery should last over a day. You probably need to adjust your voltage settings to solve this. I have mine set to max 500Mhz. Then it seems to last like a stock gear.
If you are connected and using Bluetooth tether, which will give you access to browsing, playstore ect on the gear, then your battery will not last at all. Then your gear and phone should theoretically suffer.
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BazzaR22 said:
If you are connected just to receive your notification, as a standard gear would, then your battery should last over a day. You probably need to adjust your voltage settings to solve this. I have mine set to max 500Mhz. Then it seems to last like a stock gear.
If you are connected and using Bluetooth tether, which will give you access to browsing, playstore ect on the gear, then your battery will not last at all. Then your gear and phone should theoretically suffer.
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this really isnt true. my Gear running null_22.1 with CPU set at Max 900 and Min 300 goes days not a day but days while connected to BT Tether the whole time.
here is a snapshot of my battery usage while being on BT tether the whole time.
Ok so with null_22.1 I have set the voltage at 200 min and 600 max. It's been bluetooth tethered for nearly 6 hours. Been getting email and text notifications since then and battery is on 71% The watch has actually been on since 7am this morning. Just not bluetooth tethered til 9:50. Am much happier with these results! Only problem is its zapping my note 3 battery!! Oh well. Cant have everything!
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Ok so with null_22.1 I have set the voltage at 200 min and 600 max. It's been bluetooth tethered for nearly 6 hours. Been getting email and text notifications since then and battery is on 71% The watch has actually been on since 7am this morning. Just not bluetooth tethered til 9:50. Am much happier with these results! Only problem is its zapping my note 3 battery!! Oh well. Cant have everything!
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Tethering all day is a nice luxury, but it's not really required. The gear can be set up to notify you of messages from any app. If you see a notification that's worth addressing, just flip on the client side tethering. Use the widget "Bluetooth Tethering Toggle". It's a single button click on the Gear to enable or disable tethering. On the note side, leave bluetooth tethering on at all times. It will not use any extra battery. Battery is only consumed when the client is actively connected.
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Use the widget "Bluetooth Tethering Toggle". It's a single button click on the Gear to enable or disable tethering. .
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That is what I use also, that widget works super.
I find I can easily get a full days use with battery to spare with BT tethering all day however.
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That is what I use also, that widget works super.
I find I can easily get a full days use with battery to spare with BT tethering all day however.
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Couple issues here for me.
Bluetooth Tethering Toggle (widget)? correct? It doesn't indicate whether Tethering is on or off when I press it or am I missing something or possibly have the wrong app?
With Bluetooth tethering engaged on my gear, I drain rapidly at about a clip of 2% a minute battery :silly:
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Bluetooth Tethering Toggle (widget)? correct? It doesn't indicate whether Tethering is on or off when I press it or am I missing something or possibly have the wrong app?
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Unless you have the icon hidden like I do with NotifyClean, you should have an icon in the left side of your phone taskbar that comes on when BT tethering.(plus the widget should have a green ring around it)
the main purpose of the Gear is to notify you of any notifications you may have. Why disable tethering??
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the main purpose of the Gear is to notify you of any notifications you may have. Why disable tethering??
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notifications come via BT standard setup. tethering comes in to play when you want more standalone phone like functions. with no tether you get email, fb, etc.. basically a notification from any app you choose on Gear. with tether added you can actually check email, post fb, use browser, all full internet type activities
Thanks mate, didn't know that small detail!
"Bluetooth Share" draining battery...even after full wipe and flash from 5.1.1 to 6.0
Hey guys - for the last few weeks I've noticed "Bluetooth Share" as the top culprit for my battery drain...haven't had this problem before and can only fix it by turning off Bluetooth...I'm accustomed to leaving Bluetooth on 24/7 because it's a pain in the butt to turn it on and off every time I get into my car, and the battery drain has never been significant.
Anyways, I was eager to update to 6.0, figuring that would cure the problem...but after wiping, flashing, wiping again...Bluetooth Share is still killing my battery! The only Bluetooth item I have paired is my car stereo.
See the attached screenshots.
Please let me know if you have any advice for solving this. Thanks!
I had the same issue turned out to be the app "Tasker." Dunno if you have that app at all but I figured I'd say since I had exactly the same issue and deleting some random profile I had setup for something that didn't have anything to do with bluetooth ended up fixing it.
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I had the same issue turned out to be the app "Tasker." Dunno if you have that app at all but I figured I'd say since I had exactly the same issue and deleting some random profile I had setup for something that didn't have anything to do with bluetooth ended up fixing it.
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Hmm I hope I don't have to go through the painful process of uninstalling all my apps until it stops! I don't have Tasker installed right now so maybe it's something else...thanks for the heads up.
exactly same problem here...have to say that first days on android 6 didn't notice this wakelock, but started after second charge.
i am also using tasker to change the audio setting when i connect to my car bluetooth, but also uses android smart lock to disable security code with my pebble.
did you try to disable bluetooth scanning from location settings menu?
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exactly same problem here...have to say that first days on android 6 didn't notice this wakelock, but started after second charge.
i am also using tasker to change the audio setting when i connect to my car bluetooth, but also uses android smart lock to disable security code with my pebble.
did you try to disable bluetooth scanning from location settings menu?
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Yeah that's the first thing I tried - disabling that Bluetooth scanning setting - but it didn't change anything.
Have you tried disabling Tasker to see if it fixes your problem?
not yet, i am going to do and check in the next hour.
btw it's strange that this problem didn't come out since the first charge, as i activated tasker immediately...
this is my first charge on android M:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63262307&postcount=2610
disabled only the tasker profile that checks for bluetooth interface that i have in my car and seems that the problem is solved....now i have 8 alarms/hour made from bluetooth.
don't know if i should put tasker in the whitelisted apps for Doze, maybe this would help...
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disabled only the tasker profile that checks for bluetooth interface that i have in my car and seems that the problem is solved....now i have 8 alarms/hour made from bluetooth.
don't know if i should put tasker in the whitelisted apps for Doze, maybe this would help...
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I'm curious if we have the same sort of issue - I know I don't have Tasker installed but another app may be doing the same thing...however I did have this issue on 5.1.1 as well, so I don't believe it's Doze causing it.
Seems tasker is not the problem after a while the wakelock comes again, now I am focusing on smart lock, will try to remove all trusted devices...
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Having similar issue on Nexus 5 with 6.0. Just removed android wear and disabled smart unlock. In looking around, it seems like many things seem like a fix but come back after the device is charged. Or certain bluetooth devices are connected and then disconnected. On disconnect, the wakelock occurs so rooted users are killing bluetooth and having luck with that. Also found this older, but still active group. https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=87778 many there have found apps that are causing the issue. GassBuddy being number one.
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Having similar issue on Nexus 5 with 6.0. Just removed android wear and disabled smart unlock. In looking around, it seems like many things seem like a fix but come back after the device is charged. Or certain bluetooth devices are connected and then disconnected. On disconnect, the wakelock occurs so rooted users are killing bluetooth and having luck with that. Also found this older, but still active group. https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=87778 many there have found apps that are causing the issue. GassBuddy being number one.
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Ooh interesting - I use GasBuddy - I wonder what it needs Bluetooth for...
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Ooh interesting - I use GasBuddy - I wonder what it needs Bluetooth for...
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Wow I just tested 10 minutes with Gasbuddy enabled...then froze it with TiBu and tested 10 more minutes...and the Bluetooth Share drain was down from 14% to 0.3%...
What a shame that the new app permissions in 6.0 don't allow you to take away Bluetooth access...I really like GasBuddy...time to email the dev.
Great find! Thanks for the help!
may i ask if you see bluetooth in android battery stats? because i don't see it, but i notice wakelocks only in BBS.
btw for me it's related to pebble time, if i leave the smartwatch disconnected the wakelocks go down. Will try to remove android wear as suggested...
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may i ask if you see bluetooth in android battery stats? because i don't see it, but i notice wakelocks only in BBS.
btw for me it's related to pebble time, if i leave the smartwatch disconnected the wakelocks go down. Will try to remove android wear as suggested...
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For me it was "Bluetooth Share" in GSAM Battery Monitor. I don't recall if I saw it in the normal battery stats or not.
I was slowly picking my way through apps, uninstalling and watching the bluetooth usage. I lost patience after removing maybe 15 apps, I don't use any of the "usual suspects". I ended up doing a complete wipe and flashing the 6.0 factory image and am now adding apps back in one by one. For reference, I enable all services and do not turn them off... Wifi, bluetooth, location, Wifi scanning etc. I am too lazy to turn them off and on.
Day 1 - Nothing but factory installed apps, google authenticator and bar code scanner. No bluetooth devices paired but bluetooth in on. Battery last forever, not wake lock.
Day 2 - Added strava app and connected to bluetooth HRM. No wakelock, same battery performance
Day 3 - Added android wear, moto connect and paired moto360. No wake lock and bluetooth keep awake is increasing by about 1 minute per hour so battery life is looking good. Have not enabled smart lock yet, will do that tomorrow.
I keep bluetooth on all the time and complete a full 24 hour cycle with full charge just to make sure that is not part of the problem. Based on my experience, the issue is not the OS or android wear. That leaves misbehaving apps, you just have to find which one through trial and error.
thanks for reporting, can you check how many alarms/hour you have from bluetooth?
Not sure what you mean by alarms/hour. It takes forever for bluetooth to show on my usage now. Yesterday bluetooth got to 2% of total usage for the day.
On day 4, Wi-Fi started rising to the top of the battery used list. Came out of nowhere and it seems like it is an actual bug Google is working on. The fix for me was 3 steps:
1. In Settings/Location click triple dot in top right and select Scanning, disable Wi-Fi scanning
2. In Settings/Backup & reset select Network setting reset
3. Reboot phone
This greatly improved battery life for me. The change is dramatic, I barely went under 50% per day over the weekend. I would suggest everyone try it, it took 4 days to show up but after the battery is outperforming my clean install with no apps. I still have all other services turned on.
I have this same issue!! I Have had the 6 for almost a year now and sinse day 1 I have had BT on almost 24/7. I have my MiBand connected the entire time, LG Tones and Tones+, a couple hours a day also connected to my vehicle (when tones aren't in use) and BT has never ever been a battery drain.
Switch to 6.0 BAM Bluetooth all over the place! I do not have any new apps, no android wear, google fit, pebble, gas buddy etc installed. Nothing new aside the same devices and apps that were there before 6.0.
But at the same time, by battery isn't lasting any less than before, at times a bit longer too (20+ hours) So I don't know if the BT battery data is just skewed? BBS, GSam and Phone all have different stats. I'll post screenshots in a few.
Today isn't the best example of screenshots as the first hour unplugged I had WiFi on (and not connected, forgot to turn off) GPS, MapMyRide app running GPS, Bluetooth and Google Play music all on at the same time (screen off though) and then I downloaded a Rom and Gapps but I'm showing the differences in the battery stats I get
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Today isn't the best example of screenshots as the first hour unplugged I had WiFi on (and not connected, forgot to turn off) GPS, MapMyRide app running GPS, Bluetooth and Google Play music all on at the same time (screen off though) and then I downloaded a Rom and Gapps but I'm showing the differences in the battery stats I get
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It seems as though certain apps are not working well with 6.0 and causing this issue...GasBuddy seems to be the most popular. I haven't had any problems since I disabled it last week.
You might have to manually determine which app is causing it by uninstalling/reinstalling apps until you find the culprit...
If you do, please post it here so others can find the answer without going through that hassle!
The other choice is to wait until the app gets fixed or Google issues a fix.
I have heard a lot of complaints about battery life, but some are reporting that it is fine now. I won't be using LTE.
Can the battery be replaced?
I wanted to wait for a new Sony smartwatch, but it seems there isn't one on the horizon, or any other notable smartwatch especially on the horizon for now.
I don't use LTE (or rather can't), and the battery life is fine for a whole day I find.
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I have heard a lot of complaints about battery life, but some are reporting that it is fine now. I won't be using LTE.
Can the battery be replaced?
I wanted to wait for a new Sony smartwatch, but it seems there isn't one on the horizon, or any other notable smartwatch especially on the horizon for now.
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I had read the same complaints. I turned off "cloud sync" which seemed to work. I think cloud sync push all the notifications to the watch over wifi or lte if you are away from your phone. I don't know. Battery seems fine just using it bluetooth to my phone during the day, I usually come home with 70-80% left in the evening just using it as a watch and checking the occasional text or notification.
How do you turn off "cloud sync", just turn off WiFi?
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How do you turn off "cloud sync", just turn off WiFi?
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Android Wear app on your phone->gear->privacy and personal data->cloud sync
That worked perfectly, I spend most days in the air and my watch has been in "airplane mode" for a large portion of the day, the battery life has been pretty adequate as long as I am not messing with it too much.
Really happy to have bought it!
I just got this watch and updated it. On the first day of real-world use, it sucked up around 10% an hour. At first I thought that this was normal, but when I looked at the battery stats Bluetooth had used 80 to 90 percent, while the others only used 1%. Are there any tips or way I can help with this? I did update to the beta version (the one with Android o as the base and not n) so if that's the issue I'm fine with that, it does make it to around 4 pm and I wake up at 6-7. This is a very good watch though. I had tilt to wake, aod, Bluetooth and wifi although wifi didn't appear to use much. Cellular is disabled because I don't have a plan for it.
I also just got this watch, and was concerned about the rapid battery usage. However it is now much better. This could be for 2 reasons, or one or the other. The first is that the initial pairing causes a lot of activity over Bluetooth while the watch updates and syncs all apps and may have just settled down. The other, and from advice on this forum, was that I disabled cloud sync (not that easy to find, go into Android Wear app on phone then Settings, then Privacy and Personal Data). Since then the battery life has improved vastly. Hope that helps.
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I just got this watch and updated it. On the first day of real-world use, it sucked up around 10% an hour. At first I thought that this was normal, but when I looked at the battery stats Bluetooth had used 80 to 90 percent, while the others only used 1%. Are there any tips or way I can help with this? I did update to the beta version (the one with Android o as the base and not n) so if that's the issue I'm fine with that, it does make it to around 4 pm and I wake up at 6-7. This is a very good watch though. I had tilt to wake, aod, Bluetooth and wifi although wifi didn't appear to use much. Cellular is disabled because I don't have a plan for it.
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At least you get something other than Bluetooth. I'm on the beta as well as now I get nothing but Bluetooth listed. I had major drain and thought it might be because I tried sideloading apps via Bluetooth. Whatever it was I couldn't figure it out. Factory reset and I'm back to normal
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Yea today I woke up at the same time and before, at 3 I would be charging it from 5%. Today, it's 6 and it's at 33. I did disable cloud sync and a weather complication. I also disabled NFC. Other than that I dont remember changing anything else.
You don't happen to be using a Pixel 2 XL?
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You don't happen to be using a Pixel 2 XL?
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Having a very similar problem and I am indeed using a PIxel 2 XL, is there something you know about this?
I started a thread in the questions section for battery consumption, which still shows on the first page. The biggest consumers of the battery I've found are the Bluetooth/wifi radios and Tilt to Wake Sensor. That TtW Sensor was sucking down about 4% of the battery just on its own. The best configuration I've found is no wifi, no TtW sensor, no bluetooth, using LTE combined with AT&T NumberSync, from which I get approximately 24 hours. If you want to see other configurations that have been tried and reported, you can check out the other thread.
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I started a thread in the questions section for battery consumption, which still shows on the first page. The biggest consumers of the battery I've found are the Bluetooth/wifi radios and Tilt to Wake Sensor. That TtW Sensor was sucking down about 4% of the battery just on its own. The best configuration I've found is no wifi, no TtW sensor, no bluetooth, using LTE combined with AT&T NumberSync, from which I get approximately 24 hours. If you want to see other configurations that have been tried and reported, you can check out the other thread.
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I've had pretty decent battery life on my watch (depending on what it's doing in a day) but today the thing was dead in less than 7 hours and it shows it's all from Bluetooth. So, riddle me this....do I even need to be synced via Bluetooth when I have NumberSync? What are the advantages/disadvantages (besides battery drain) to leaving Bluetooth on and connected to my phone?
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I've had pretty decent battery life on my watch (depending on what it's doing in a day) but today the thing was dead in less than 7 hours and it shows it's all from Bluetooth. So, riddle me this....do I even need to be synced via Bluetooth when I have NumberSync? What are the advantages/disadvantages (besides battery drain) to leaving Bluetooth on and connected to my phone?
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Sounds like something wasnt letting it sleep
Do what I do. Every 2-3 days do a restart of the watch just keeps things fresh.
Mine can easily last 2 days if stretch it. Normally I'm around 50% by the time I get home after 12 hours
Thanks for the advice! I'll start that routine tomorrow and see how it works out.