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Hey Guys,
Blast me as I know you will --- I just got my n1 for ATT last week after converting from a BB9700;
Questions -
(1) After rooting what is the best mod to do --- everyone has something to say buy I am debating from Cynagen vs ModaCo..
(2) Radio upgrades, Is there a new n latest one for my verison of N1
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Try "Search"......and wrong section to post this...
I was in the same situation as you! Just got rid of my 9700 and got a N1
I've been playing with Cyanogen 5.0.5.3 and more recently, 5.0.6.1-testing with the new .33.2 Undervolted/Overclocked/Extra RAM kernel. Everything is very snappy compared to stock and I couldn't be happier
I'm still looking around for radio roms
bsshoomez said:
... I just got my n1 for ATT last week after converting from a BB9700 ... After rooting what is the best mod to do ...
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I'm going to recommend that you NOT ROOT YOUR N1.
Stick with the un-rooted phone for as long as you can.
First determine WHY you want to root.
Do you know shell scripting? You know much/little about Unix/Linux? Are you a power user? Are you an iPhone iBasher?
I've rooted and unlocked all of my HTC phones for the past few years, because I know what I'm doing. I read and read and read, searched searched searched these forums for reasons why I should or shouldn't do this or that.
You are new to these forums. New to Android™.
I say you should play with your new phone for a few months.
Continue reading here about Cyanogen, Modaco, Enomther, apps2sd, rooting, radios, overclocking, etc.
If and when you learn ENOUGH by reading, searching, slimming, and searching and reading some more ... if you feel you want to root your Nexus One - by all means, DO It MAN!
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I'm going to recommend that you NOT ROOT YOUR N1.
Stick with the un-rooted phone for as long as you can.
First determine WHY you want to root.
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I will tell you why 95% of people want to root on the Nexus One. No need to ask a prospect.
The reason is because they want cyanogenmod!
You advice is poor rooting is child play compared to 360 modding.
N1 modding is key to enjoying ones phone.
I have to admit, I rooted my Nexus right away.
Having said that, I spent almost a year on my G1 without rooting it. At first I didn't know it was an option. After I started reading about it, I started to realize that it was probably a wise thing to do. It then took me a few weeks of reading to figure out what I actually wanted to do to my phone before I took the leap and finally rooted it and installed CM which made my G1 experience exciting again.
I mention all this because I agree with OrganizedFellow. Spend some time getting to know how Android works before rooting and adding new features. It will help you appreciate the hard work of the devs even more when you do put custom ROMs on your phone.
If you can't wait, I recommend CM. As for the radio, if your phone doesn't lose 3G and stays connected like it should, don't worry about changing the radio. I "had" to change my radio to try getting rid of my 3G issues that the phone shipped with.
mattrb said:
I will tell you why 95% of people want to root on the Nexus One. No need to ask a prospect.
The reason is because they want cyanogenmod!
You advice is poor rooting is child play compared to 360 modding.
N1 modding is key to enjoying ones phone.
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in contrast, if youre not super comfortable with going through the whole process just dip your toes in the water first by trolling forums and reading, you can after all brick your phone. I agree with organizedfellow, take your time and find out why and what benefits. i have not rooted yet but leaning closer as i read more and find that i really need the tethering in case im stuck with no wireless while out on a job (also the different color trackball would be sweet). Out side of those im pretty happy with everything stock, add to it with the rumors of himem coming in a future ota update i think i will be set....just that damn tethering...
You cant go wrong with any ROM available right now, but I highly suggest you try Enomther's ROM as well.
mattrb said:
I will tell you why 95% of people want to root on the Nexus One. No need to ask a prospect.
The reason is because they want cyanogenmod!
You advice is poor rooting is child play compared to 360 modding.
N1 modding is key to enjoying ones phone.
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are you serious? nobody said anything about the comparison of rooting an android device (software) to modding an xbox 360 (hardware).
So by your logic, someone should jump right into modding their console because replacing the engine in a Boeing 747 is harder.
To the OP. Take the advice of those suggesting that you wait. For starters, you can see if your device has any hardware issues. Yes HTC is warrantying unlocked devices but why not avoid that hurdle and sit on your device for a week or three to just be sure. While you do that, you can read all that you can stomach in these forums and plan your best course of attack.
Welcome to the fray.
OrganizedFellow said:
I'm going to recommend that you NOT ROOT YOUR N1.
Stick with the un-rooted phone for as long as you can.
First determine WHY you want to root.
Do you know shell scripting? You know much/little about Unix/Linux? Are you a power user? Are you an iPhone iBasher?
I've rooted and unlocked all of my HTC phones for the past few years, because I know what I'm doing. I read and read and read, searched searched searched these forums for reasons why I should or shouldn't do this or that.
You are new to these forums. New to Android™.
I say you should play with your new phone for a few months.
Continue reading here about Cyanogen, Modaco, Enomther, apps2sd, rooting, radios, overclocking, etc.
If and when you learn ENOUGH by reading, searching, slimming, and searching and reading some more ... if you feel you want to root your Nexus One - by all means, DO It MAN!
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+1 that is some great advice, and I would take it. I was just like you and I last week I rooted my ATT N1. I love it, but I must say that I have put a lot more time into it than I expected. I spent a month before I got the N1 looking into this whole scene and I felt that I had the reasons to root. I would at least spend the time searching forums until all your questions that you have are answered. No body is going to be able to give you a perfect ROM that is for you because there are many different ones out there and what is good for one person may not be the best for another.
I would spend the time to get to know everything before you get going. I would say I know my way around technology pretty well, but if I didn't have the nice folks from this forum I would of had a very hard time with things. When people tell you to "search" they really aren't trying to be rude. To root your phone is a personal choice that only you can make. You are the one that spent the money and people spend a bunch of time making our HTC using lives that much greater.
I spent almost 4 hours last week rooting and unlocking and I have spent easily 30-40 since then learning all that I can learn and I must say that for me it was the right decision because I learned a bunch of things about my phone and now when I have a problem I am comfortable that I can find a way to fix it myself. If I don't then I know where to turn to "search" for help.
If you have any questions I would love to help you out although I am far from a master at this trade. I spent a bunch of time and I have a whole notebook of printouts that I have found in various places all over the web (especially this site) I would be more than happy to send them to you, but just do yourself a huge favor and research, research, research, research, and then when you feel you are done research some more. It will help you in the long run.
Have fun with your phone and good luck
By the way I am running the latest Cyanogen and a few other things. I am having a blast with .apk like the HTC keyboard, and I must say that for me wireless tethering is the greatest thing in the world. I have only touched the very end of this world, and I am so thankful for all the people out there that spend countless hours making our lives a lot easier. I had a bunch of help last week and people really didn't need to spend the time to help me out. I have also messed around with the latest Modaco Sense ROM and I like that a lot as well.
Let me 1st say a huge thank you to dzo and all the devs I have been following the vouge andoid from .9 - 2.2 from sd loading to nand flashing, from having to boot data in windows defore booting in to android, from the bule keyboard to rouge tools, and it has been a hell of a ride. The vouge was my 1st smart phone and I hated wm6 but android open up new doors, and hacking became a way of life. Im sad to say I was always in the background chicking for the next update, and never more then an end user. But everyone here always made me feel welcomed. I will miss my vouge thank you all for never letting it die and taking it places I never dreamed. I will miss all of you the most
however all things must come to an end, and im moving on with my new toy. I just picked a samsung galaxy s and will be joining that group. Thank you all again for last 2 years
Nate
Can we get a hip-hip hooray?
It's alright, boy. Some day most of us will move to another device. By the way, how did you get your Samsung Galaxy S? I want one used and cheap
Welcome to the sgs club
Hope you enjoy the new phone! Congrats!
jamezelle said:
Hope you enjoy the new phone! Congrats!
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Jamezelle, congrats on the modship!
I must say, going from my tilt with 2.2 to the sgs with 2.1 was a little bit of a disappointment but it's a great phone. Although I wish the community was as great as this one was.
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Welcome to the sgs club
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hey Mssmison are you doing any development for SGS
i have the Verizon Fascinate and i know you are not in the US but i was hoping we might have a developer with you kind of back ground
if you bo build a Rom, will it work for Verizon (crosses fingers), let me know if you need any testers
got to dump this touchwiz crap they even build "bing" in to it
i never though i would see the day where "bing" would be the default search on an android
its so odd to go from 2.2 on my vogue to 2.1 on my SGS
that is why i will miss this group
everyone here worked so hard and got out updates so fast i think this is the best group on xda
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I must say, going from my tilt with 2.2 to the sgs with 2.1 was a little bit of a disappointment but it's a great phone. Although I wish the community was as great as this one was.
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i agree so that means we need to make it great
i just wish it was all one group because having it broken up by US carrier seams point less it would be easier for everyone to work together if it was one group
if you star developing roms and you need a tester for Verizon Fascinate let me know would love to get the SGS group working as well as this one did
SuperJMN said:
It's alright, boy. Some day most of us will move to another device. By the way, how did you get your Samsung Galaxy S? I want one used and cheap
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i got my SGS from Best Buy in the US
and it was Free!!! which is the biggest reason i got this phone
Best Buy is running a deal where every Friday for the month of Oct. they are offering a different phone from each US carrier for free with a new 2 year contract
my contract with Verizon ended months ago and just like you i was waiting for a great deal because i was not going to pay $200 for a new phone when i had my vouge that worked great
I've also been following the development here. I am so very thankful for everyones hard work towards making the vogue as up to date as it can be. I last ran Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2 [Deodexed] [RLS15] before my phone broke. Somehow the charger I used at work fried the thing and I had to move on. I now have an xperia x10a. I have some mixed feelings about the thing but I guess it is upgrade enough. Anyway. Thanks again. I will still keep reading most of the stuff here on the vogue. That thing was pretty good to me.
when i see posts like this it saddens me because i know there is one less user to continue the legacy of the 6900. however it gladdens me that individuals will keep up with technology.
brings to mind a saying i got from my dad... all technology gets out dated - at that point we can chose to keep it alive for something else, or toss it.
he made that comment to me when my 486box turned Unix bit the big one via lightning strike.
good luck on your new journey sir- congrats on your new technology- may it suit you well.
I know there's a lot of discussion on this topic about the Incredible S but was wondering on the status of root for the Incredible 2(US-Verizon)?
It's my understanding these devices are pretty much the same, with minor changes to the software (ie: branding and bundling). As far as I've seen, my I2 has many of the same characteristics and behaviors (in terms of shell access, temp root, etc) as the IS as far as what I've seen in this forum (I need to dig around more, though). I suspect whatever exploit happens to work on the IS will work on the I2.
Of course, I could be very wrong.
I've been under the same impression. When inc s gets root, so will we.
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DINC 2
I cant wait. I want CM7GB like I had n my Eris.
I'm liking sense 2.1. We were all trying to get it to work well on the inc 1 with varying levels of success. I'd like to be able to use titanium to restore over 100 apps and also like to get rid of this stupid amount of verizon bloat. Have you guys ever seen so much bloat!? I thought the inc 1 was bad...
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I cant wait. I want CM7GB like I had n my Eris.
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I came from an Eris as well. Was running CM7 on it, and I miss it dearly. Tried switching my I2 to LauncherPro so I could at least have the familiar environment (I have a registration code I paid for because I like it) and when I rebooted to clear running apps and be on just LP, apps started not working right (many would FC on start). Switched back to Sense and rebooted and all was working again. This annoys me greatly.
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I came from an Eris as well. Was running CM7 on it, and I miss it dearly. Tried switching my I2 to LauncherPro so I could at least have the familiar environment (I have a registration code I paid for because I like it) and when I rebooted to clear running apps and be on just LP, apps started not working right (many would FC on start). Switched back to Sense and rebooted and all was working again. This annoys me greatly.
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u sure u got the right version of LPP installed?
i switched out my sense to LPP ( i too have a registration code ) and all was working just fine for me
did u try to swap out ur LPP?
It's not looking too good for us, TeamAndIRC's JCASE spent about 20-30 minutes with my DInc2 and he tweeted his conclusion - "Yes incredible2 is as screwed as incredibleS, possibly worse. Psneuter works, gingerbread didn't (probably can with some work)"
he is out of town atm, gonna try again once he gets back, i really really really want 2.3.4/gtalk on our ffc
SoCalSpecialist said:
u sure u got the right version of LPP installed?
i switched out my sense to LPP ( i too have a registration code ) and all was working just fine for me
did u try to swap out ur LPP?
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I got it straight from the Android market. If I run it after letting Sense start, everything works fine. However, if I don't let Sense start, or start manually, things just break. More than likely there's some service not starting that is launched by Sense that is required for certain things to work properly that ties into the framework. This is the kind of behavior that prompted Google to stop source code early access for partners (they should not be modifying the framework). My goal is to reduce resource usage, not add another layer of resource usage due to a personal preference.
Really, I just want to return to CM. Wasn't perfect on the Eris, but allowed me to do whatever I wanted.
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It's not looking too good for us, TeamAndIRC's JCASE spent about 20-30 minutes with my DInc2 and he tweeted his conclusion - "Yes incredible2 is as screwed as incredibleS, possibly worse. Psneuter works, gingerbread didn't (probably can with some work)"
he is out of town atm, gonna try again once he gets back, i really really really want 2.3.4/gtalk on our ffc
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Sigh.... Hoepfully they can figure out something.
sort of, of this topic, why is there no DINC2 forum on xda, how's it supposed to build up support when there's noplace for that to happen?
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sort of, of this topic, why is there no DINC2 forum on xda, how's it supposed to build up support when there's noplace for that to happen?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052075
My reply...
I would have to say I'm horribly upset that there isn't a thread or any support for this phone. Yes, there are people who purchased this phone...some because of warranty issues, some because of upgrades (though I would rather wait a while...since there are so many choices coming.), and others because this is their intro to the android world. Why not dedicate the same time and effort you've dedicated to all of the other phones...yes, it may be a challenge, it may even be a waste of time...but for those people out there who want...no need root and global...this phone is a success. Incredible 1 + newer 1ghz processor + 4 inches + global and a little extra = Epic Success (esp. if root was available). So as a consumer, a business man, a member of this great android community...I beg of you DEVs please assist us. We're here and we're waiting. America.
Just saying
There is forum made for this phone as its almost the same as the IS, with some minor differences. There is also no forum for the desire cdma version... Anyhow the devs who don't own this phone ( or DS or any of the new ones) have a hard time testing there creations. We have some devs who don't own it and its extremely hard to accomplish something this way. Furthermore all the devs of the newer phones try to work together for the s-off. Rom development is a completely different story.
The time for the cdma version belongs in this forum also, so I don't really see any problems...
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I would have to say I'm horribly upset that there isn't a thread or any support for this phone. Yes, there are people who purchased this phone...some because of warranty issues, some because of upgrades (though I would rather wait a while...since there are so many choices coming.), and others because this is their intro to the android world. Why not dedicate the same time and effort you've dedicated to all of the other phones...yes, it may be a challenge, it may even be a waste of time...but for those people out there who want...no need root and global...this phone is a success. Incredible 1 + newer 1ghz processor + 4 inches + global and a little extra = Epic Success (esp. if root was available). So as a consumer, a business man, a member of this great android community...I beg of you DEVs please assist us. We're here and we're waiting. America.
Just saying
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What makes you think no one is working on this phone? As has been pointed out, there are people working on getting forums started here, and there are people getting their hands on these phones and starting to tinker with them (like me). Keep in mind this was JUST released LAST WEEK.
It's not useful to post these kinds of things as they don't really contribute to the discussion for making progress. It takes time and should we get lucky and the IS exploit works on the I2, bonus! Give it time.
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What makes you think no one is working on this phone? As has been pointed out, there are people working on getting forums started here, and there are people getting their hands on these phones and starting to tinker with them (like me). Keep in mind this was JUST released LAST WEEK.
It's not useful to post these kinds of things as they don't really contribute to the discussion for making progress. It takes time and should we get lucky and the IS exploit works on the I2, bonus! Give it time.
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Oh I'm sorry...I thought it was okay to post an opinion on a blog...I didn't think anyone would consider it a threat...especially since all of the current comments center around it, and I just elaborated. If you would like to attack people for posting their opinion about a certain situation...maybe you should do on your own site. Last time I checked...this was AMERICA...**** yeah, going to save the m**herf***in world...America...F*** yeah...lick my *Meow* and suck on my b*lls. Lmao...and that's my reply for you. Please and thank you. I don't hate...I just state.
Oh and one more thing...thanks for contributing to the discussion...seeing that your reply to my original post was very useful. Now back to the subject I just browsed Droidforums and notice a Incredible 2 section...I believe in XDA, and have been a ghost member for a while. I know they are working on it, and it was never my intent to come off as a douche. I was just stating an *OPINION*, I'm keeping an eye on the development of the IS and the general post section of the Incredible. I'm alert, and advise all to continue to stay alert...maybe in a week or two, we'll see some results.
Wow. No disrespect... But Americans ARE stupid.... Ok maybe its just you. We all know the i2 is so similar to the IS that discussion for both can take place here. The same thing happened with the milestone/droid thread. Full stop. Can this thread be locked up?
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Uhh, the Milestone and Droid were vastly different in the entire bootloader business. This made the threads ENTIRELY different..... For now it's like Droid 2 and Milestone 2. Both are stuck at square 1 with a locked bootloader.
If it's offensive to explain complaints about lack of progress is annoying and ask for patience, then I have no idea how to not be offensive (yeah, I'm a "dumb American") so I'll refrain from posting here anymore.
Which one will gather around the most developers? The HTC One or the SGS4? This will most likely be one of my main deciding factors between the two.
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Which one will gather around the most developers? The HTC One or the SGS4? This will most likely be one of my main deciding factors between the two.
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If it's seriously you're deciding factor then your only real option is to wait and see. Nobody knows in the future what gets the most support, it's a progressive thing. Will HTC release source sooner? Unlock process easier? Root easy? Will Sprint post updates fast? Etc etc etc.
Too many variables to go "yep, this one" before hand.
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I havent had an HTC phone since the Hero, when the Epic came out I switched and stayed until the SGS3. That being said, following some threads, BOTH phones have some GREAT developers: toastcfh for the One, Shabbypenguin for the GS4 are some of them that come to my mind since Ive used their stuff way back.
Both already have outstanding development. If this is your deciding factor then you might as well toss a coin, because they both are getting dev love.
Mods......can we shut down these GS4 vs. ONE threads?
So not trying to be rude here, but where are the custom roms? I had the original Moto X and it had a few nice custom roms. I` am rooted with a unlocked bootloader but so far have stayed on stock. Is this going to be a bust as far as custom roms for this device......any thoughts would be appreciated!!
Another one of these threads? If you are so big on flashing ROMs, why didn't you research before you bought the X?
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Yes it's a bust if you like to flash roms this is not the device to have I personally buy Motos for the stock experience and battery life if I'm looking to flash Nexus or any # of devices for that moving away from Nexus too big too pricey currently
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Yes it's a bust if you like to flash roms this is not the device to have I personally buy Motos for the stock experience and battery life if I'm looking to flash Nexus or any # of devices for that moving away from Nexus too big too pricey currently
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I agree that stock on here is pretty good, on my Moto x 2013 I used a stock rom that was optimized and it was excellent. I think the sales must be poor of this unit and it is one reason that we do not have custom roms. For flashing I will use my M8...
Another one of these threads? If you are so big on flashing ROMs, why didn't you research before you bought the X?
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I said I did not mean to be rude...and what do you do, start off with a rude comment...shesh... the thread is in the Q&A section....maybe I want to know what other people think...but obviously not you.
Could be my thinking is that Motorola was locked in with Verizon so long that the development was limited more Gsm phones should help them in the future I bought a droid Razr Hd from Canada Rogers and it worked great would love to get a Turbo gsm HTC has good development and great Devs I owned several of these devices just prefer stock android over sense,touchwiz etc I don't like paying that much for my devices though -- good luck Have a great day
More to the point, there are already several other threads worded exactly like yours already here. The answer, or discussion, you seek already exist on this forum.
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I agree that stock on here is pretty good, on my Moto x 2013 I used a stock rom that was optimized and it was excellent. I think the sales must be poor of this unit and it is one reason that we do not have custom roms. For flashing I will use my M8...
I said I did not mean to be rude...and what do you do, start off with a rude comment...shesh... the thread is in the Q&A section....maybe I want to know what other people think...but obviously not you.
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My comment really wasn't that rude. There are multiple existing threads on this topic that you could have posted in instead of starting a new one. Threads that are worded near identical to yours, so there is no doubt that had you even made the slightest attempt to search first, you would have found at least one of them. And just like all the other people complaining about no custom ROMs, you should have researched before making your purchase. XDA isn't a venue for you to complain about something that you should have known before you bought the phone, it's here so people can find help with modding their phones. You've been a member since 2010, you should know better. I guarantee this thread will be closed.
Look, found this on page 2. You literally didn't even try to search first- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/lack-custom-roms-mods-t2975516
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So not trying to be rude here, but where are the custom roms? I had the original Moto X and it had a few nice custom roms. I` am rooted with a unlocked bootloader but so far have stayed on stock. Is this going to be a bust as far as custom roms for this device......any thoughts would be appreciated!!
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my friend I agree,and I have the same think,about the custom roms,kernel,i wish to be soon,the phone need roms,kernels,every phone need, I will wait a bit,maby a month,and then I will sale it.
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My comment really wasn't that rude. There are multiple existing threads on this topic that you could have posted in instead of starting a new one. Threads that are worded near identical to yours, so there is no doubt that had you even made the slightest attempt to search first, you would have found at least one of them. And just like all the other people complaining about no custom ROMs, you should have researched before making your purchase. XDA isn't a venue for you to complain about something that you should have known before you bought the phone, it's here so people can find help with modding their phones. You've been a member since 2010, you should know better. I guarantee this thread will be closed.
Look, found this on page 2. You literally didn't even try to search first- http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/lack-custom-roms-mods-t2975516
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The debate should be why..that is what I am asking, I think it is the lack of sales, simple as that. Maybe I should have changed the tittle to make you feel better. I bought it cause it is a good phone, a optimized rom would be nice. Why are your panties and others in such a knot about this. At least it could be good reading cause nothing else is happening here about this device!! Harsh but true...close it, I could care less.
Great phone but very small sales = almost no developer community....but thanks to those that have given us root and a custom recovery it might be needed in the future...I hope!!!!
As stated above, there is already a thread on this topic: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x-2014/help/lack-custom-roms-mods-t2975516
Please search before posting.
Thread closed.