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Just got my Nexus One and I'm very impressed. Just two things that I wish to clear up:
1. Fingerprint impressions are much too easily left on the screen. Will a screen protector help? I suppose nothing else can really be done about that?
2. More importantly, why is copying text so hard on the default browser? I've played with the HTC Desire and the way it's done on that phone is beautiful i.e. dragging two endpoints and then having an option to refer the selected text to Wikipedia or a dictionary etc. Is that an HTC-only thing or is it something can be imported to the Nexus One?
3. The default Gmail application still doesn't allow copying/selection of text, does it?
Cheers.
1. Yes
2. Try flashing desire rom maybe?
3. You can't
Can't comment on 2, but...
1. This is a problem with all touchscreen phones. Some screen protectors are good and some are terrible. Regardless, you will have to wipe down the screen from time to time. The frequency depends on how clean your fingers are.
3. Froyo just introduced copy and paste in the gmail app. Just press menu button > more > select text. It will copy what you selected into the clipboard. After that, paste wherever you please.
Thanks guys.
Pretty surprised with point (2) actually. HTC seems to have gotten their browser UI spot on. Is the default browser on the Nexus One the best?
Froyo just introduced copy and paste in the gmail app.
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Good news. Hopefully the Wikipedia/Dictionary lookups are also included with Froyo. And better selection of text.
TT1986 said:
Thanks guys.
Pretty surprised with point (2) actually. HTC seems to have gotten their browser UI spot on. Is the default browser on the Nexus One the best?
Good news. Hopefully the Wikipedia/Dictionary lookups are also included with Froyo. And better selection of text.
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check out dolphin browser. the default browser is very good, and if you use the TRACKBALL to select text in default, it works very nicely. i agree the touchscreen method is poorly done on the default browser.
screen protector = no finger prints.
ohgood said:
check out dolphin browser. the default browser is very good, and if you use the TRACKBALL to select text in default, it works very nicely. i agree the touchscreen method is poorly done on the default browser.
screen protector = no finger prints.
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I get plenty of prints on my protector, but its the best protector I've found so far. Which do you use?
Also, I'm banking on gingerbread fixing the copy paste issue, Android introduced it so long ago its really pathetic it hasn't been improved. I can't even use it how it is. But I have a feeling a it is part of the UI that will be modified for 3. 0
DMaverick50 said:
Also, I'm banking on gingerbread fixing the copy paste issue, Android introduced it so long ago its really pathetic it hasn't been improved. I can't even use it how it is. But I have a feeling a it is part of the UI that will be modified for 3. 0
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Lets hope so. I find HTC's implementation to be perfect! I tried the Dolphin browser, it's good but it doesn't make the selection of text any easier. I suppose that's a ROM issue.
Another tiny detail, the reply button in the Gmail app being right at the end of message - they should fix that too - show it at both ends of the message.
TT1986 said:
Another tiny detail, the reply button in the Gmail app being right at the end of message - they should fix that too - show it at both ends of the message.
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this annoys the sh*t out of me. I wish they could just make those buttons at the bottom. its so annoying to have to click a link for it
TT1986 said:
Just got my Nexus One and I'm very impressed. Just two things that I wish to clear up:
1. Fingerprint impressions are much too easily left on the screen. Will a screen protector help? I suppose nothing else can really be done about that?
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Touchscreens are always painful here. The N1 is no worse than an iPhone / iPod Touch or anything else out there.
TT1986 said:
2. More importantly, why is copying text so hard on the default browser? I've played with the HTC Desire and the way it's done on that phone is beautiful i.e. dragging two endpoints and then having an option to refer the selected text to Wikipedia or a dictionary etc. Is that an HTC-only thing or is it something can be imported to the Nexus One?
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The Trackball is your friend - once you get used to using it to move the cursor and select text, you will laugh at how slow and difficult the "drag a knob" method is.
TT1986 said:
3. The default Gmail application still doesn't allow copying/selection of text, does it?
Cheers.
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Yes it does - Froyo (finally) added this feature. In any Gmail, just hit the menu button, then select "More", and you will see "Select Text".
Good lesson for you if you are new to "vanilla" Android: ALWAYS try the menu button or long-presses if you are searching for a way to do something.
If you can see fingerprints, your screen is on the wrong brightness (or you just have really greasy fingers).
Bitbrit said:
If you can see fingerprints, your screen is on the wrong brightness (or you just have really greasy fingers).
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Actually I really notice them only when the screen is dark. Once I start working on it, it's not noticeable. Still, I'll be a getting a screen protector.
How difficult is to get the Desire ROM on the Nexus One? And is it advisable/inadvisable?
First of all, from HTC Kaiser to Samsung Vibrant to HTC HD 7 & I'm never going to look back!
OK now:
1. Go to an Email tile
2. Tap on the far left (next to the bolded name of the sender)
3. Voila - you have a slick option to select mail
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. Thought it might be useful
Yeah found it the other day by mistake but I didn't think it was any earth mover
Yeah, my phone actually pointed the feature out the other day - I was deleting several emails one at a time, and a little info bar appeared at the top to say you can click on the left to quick select.
Not an earth mover at all, but neat that it recognised what I was doing and was able to tell me how I could do it quicker!
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First of all, from HTC Kaiser to Samsung Vibrant to HTC HD 7 & I'm never going to look back!
OK now:
1. Go to an Email tile
2. Tap on the far left (next to the bolded name of the sender)
3. Voila - you have a slick option to select mail
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. Thought it might be useful
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its great, but were is the "select all" feature, instead of you having to select each one.
I avg over 80 emails a day... how fun is my day selecting each one to delete
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its great, but were is the "select all" feature, instead of you having to select each one.
I avg over 80 emails a day... how fun is my day selecting each one to delete
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If you are deleting all the emails you have recieved each day, then consider to discontinue using email...
homer.web said:
If you are deleting all the emails you have recieved each day, then consider to discontinue using email...
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That makes no sense, what is the point of keeping an email once you have read it? I check most of my emails on my desk top, the phone I use to track what is happening via emails for 4 different accounts when out with clients.
I dont need 100 emails sitting on my phone.
I am simply stating that every phone I have every used even old ones allowed you to do a select all feature for old sms phones.
HD2 has it, why was it not placed into WM7, just a small feature which is important but also missing as many important ones are.
but face book is there, wheeepy another face book driven phone, like we dont have enough of those.
Here's another one that you may (or may not) be aware of.
when typing press and hold on the actual text you have been typing. A cursor will appear allowing you to re-position anywhere within the text.
very handy for going back to make changes (like inserting a space between words, inserting words etc.
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That makes no sense, what is the point of keeping an email once you have read it? I check most of my emails on my desk top, the phone I use to track what is happening via emails for 4 different accounts when out with clients.
I dont need 100 emails sitting on my phone.
I am simply stating that every phone I have every used even old ones allowed you to do a select all feature for old sms phones.
HD2 has it, why was it not placed into WM7, just a small feature which is important but also missing as many important ones are.
but face book is there, wheeepy another face book driven phone, like we dont have enough of those.
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I am also using 4 email accounts, two Exchange servers and two Hotmail accounts. I have no problem to have two weeks synchronized on all of the accounts. If you dont want it, than set it to last 3 days and you dont have to worry about...
Kiwi_Dave said:
Here's another one that you may (or may not) be aware of.
when typing press and hold on the actual text you have been typing. A cursor will appear allowing you to re-position anywhere within the text.
very handy for going back to make changes (like inserting a space between words, inserting words etc.
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This is very cute feature... I didnt know about it and was missing this one...
Big Foot said:
First of all, from HTC Kaiser to Samsung Vibrant to HTC HD 7 & I'm never going to look back!
OK now:
1. Go to an Email tile
2. Tap on the far left (next to the bolded name of the sender)
3. Voila - you have a slick option to select mail
Haven't seen this mentioned anywhere. Thought it might be useful
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Umm thanks for the tip was trying to figure out how to do it
now am gonna poke everywhere to get more goodies
homer.web said:
I am also using 4 email accounts, two Exchange servers and two Hotmail accounts. I have no problem to have two weeks synchronized on all of the accounts. If you dont want it, than set it to last 3 days and you dont have to worry about...
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i have it set to minimal days i avg over 100 per day
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If you are deleting all the emails you have recieved each day, then consider to discontinue using email...
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you are cute.... i only check my emails and if its imporant and must reply i will reply, edit delete and reply i will do on my notebook or desktop...
Yeah, it was nice when the phone pointed out I could do that.
Nice feature.
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This is very cute feature... I didnt know about it and was missing this one...
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Me too, ditto. And the email delete feature is good too.
Where do i find app settings for the apps ive downloaded?
Ive been trying phone settings and apps, but there are no customization options for the apps in there, eg GO launcher, where and how do i enter that?
Regards from a Android rookie
appfactory said:
Where do i find app settings for the apps ive downloaded?
Ive been trying phone settings and apps, but there are no customization options for the apps in there, eg GO launcher, where and how do i enter that?
Regards from a Android rookie
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They will appear as three little dot's somewhere on your screen when you have the application open
appfactory said:
Where do i find app settings for the apps ive downloaded?
Ive been trying phone settings and apps, but there are no customization options for the apps in there, eg GO launcher, where and how do i enter that?
Regards from a Android rookie
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what do wanna do exactly?
Take fex this app
Launcher 8
Search Google Play store for it, cause im not allowed to post links yet, and not to mention the super annoying captcha for every post
Screen shot number 6 shows the settings in that app, but i have no idea where to enter it, i got similar problems with other apps as well, cant find the referred settings page...
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Take fex this app
Launcher 8
Search Google Play store for it, cause im not allowed to post links yet, and not to mention the super annoying captcha for every post
Screen shot number 6 shows the settings in that app, but i have no idea where to enter it, i got similar problems with other apps as well, cant find the referred settings page...
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Did you read my post? Launch the app, once it is launched three little dots will appear at the top or bottom of the screen, these are where you enter any applications settings.
appfactory said:
Take fex this app
Launcher 8
Search Google Play store for it, cause im not allowed to post links yet, and not to mention the super annoying captcha for every post
Screen shot number 6 shows the settings in that app, but i have no idea where to enter it, i got similar problems with other apps as well, cant find the referred settings page...
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Try a long-press on the screen? Most apps will follow the android guidelines of using the 3 dots to indicate the menu, but others (especially homescreens) will rely on long-presses to declutter the UI.
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Did you read my post? Launch the app, once it is launched three little dots will appear at the top or bottom of the screen, these are where you enter any applications settings.
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Yes i did, but i couldnt see it last time, found it now, at the bottom beside the home screen buttons.
I thought they were suppose to be at the top, thats why i didnt noticed it.... sorry, and thanks!
They dont call us rookie for nothing
appfactory said:
Yes i did, but i couldnt see it last time, found it now, at the bottom beside the home screen buttons.
I thought they were suppose to be at the top, thats why i didnt noticed it.... sorry, and thanks!
They dont call us rookie for nothing
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Junior Member actually , BTW hit thanks button if the answers helped you in the forums, it should help you getting help in the future
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Junior Member actually , BTW hit thanks button if the answers helped you in the forums, it should help you getting help in the future
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I already did yesterday
I've been using Go Dialler/Contacts for well over a year, previously on my HTC desire and it had the same issue back then where it wouldn't register the cleared missed calls, so if you got a missed call, it would say 1 missed call, then you would check the missed call and the notification would go. Then if you got another missed call (and only 1) it would then say 2 missed calls, this would go on and on until you restarted the phone. On the desire I solved this by putting the app in system/app with root explorer.
Another annoyance is that when you dial or try to save a number, it automatically puts spaces between digits where country/area code are. I like to keep my numbers all in the same format, that means no spaces or anything, so just +XXXXXXXXXX
I use my phone for business so save a lot of numbers, this is going to be a pain to have to edit each number while saving a contact.
So just wondering, since go dialler/contacts hasn't been updated since nov '12, is there any newer and better alternatives that work the same way with the dialler predictions (and having latest dialled show up smartly when composing new message in GO SMS also - this is handy!) but which don't have the annoyances?
Any feedback appreciated!
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I've been using Go Dialler/Contacts for well over a year, previously on my HTC desire and it had the same issue back then where it wouldn't register the cleared missed calls, so if you got a missed call, it would say 1 missed call, then you would check the missed call and the notification would go. Then if you got another missed call (and only 1) it would then say 2 missed calls, this would go on and on until you restarted the phone. On the desire I solved this by putting the app in system/app with root explorer.
Another annoyance is that when you dial or try to save a number, it automatically puts spaces between digits where country/area code are. I like to keep my numbers all in the same format, that means no spaces or anything, so just +XXXXXXXXXX
I use my phone for business so save a lot of numbers, this is going to be a pain to have to edit each number while saving a contact.
So just wondering, since go dialler/contacts hasn't been updated since nov '12, is there any newer and better alternatives that work the same way with the dialler predictions (and having latest dialled show up smartly when composing new message in GO SMS also - this is handy!) but which don't have the annoyances?
Any feedback appreciated!
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I am new to the world of Android, having previously been a RIM and iOS user. However, since coming over to Android and seeing the open nature of the platform...loving it. Anyway, back to the matter in hand....Contacts+ works brilliantly, I would suggest giving it a look :good:
I use 'ExDialer & Contacts' app
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...251bGwsMSwxLDMsImNvbS5tb2Rvb2h1dC5kaWFsZXIiXQ..
Very simply themable dialler and contacts app.
Thanks for the suggestion. Do you know what this means?
"This is a trial version with 7 days trial period. When the trial period expired, you will be asked to buy PRO version. You can still keep trying if you haven't decided to buy"
So is it free to keep using or what? Do they keep bugging you to upgrade/pay?
I don't have experience of it,but I would guess you will get nags to upgrade, although with what frequency I couldn't say. I think that is one of the reasons I stuck with contacts+...it's free! That and the integration with FB, it's merge facility etc
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Thanks for the suggestion. Do you know what this means?
"This is a trial version with 7 days trial period. When the trial period expired, you will be asked to buy PRO version. You can still keep trying if you haven't decided to buy"
So is it free to keep using or what? Do they keep bugging you to upgrade/pay?
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Going to try out exdialer first I think, seems to have a lot of recommendations from what I've seen, first impressions are good anyway and it's solved the issue of the number having the spaced put automatically. I think the missed call issue might be in every dialler so I might have to put it in system app
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Thanks for the suggestion. Do you know what this means?
"This is a trial version with 7 days trial period. When the trial period expired, you will be asked to buy PRO version. You can still keep trying if you haven't decided to buy"
So is it free to keep using or what? Do they keep bugging you to upgrade/pay?
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Is free but every 7 days when you next open the dialler it will show a screen asking if you want to buy the full version.
Very easy to ignore if you don't want to pay for the full version.
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thanks, every 7 days, so 52 notifications a year, hmm, seems a bit much
It used to come up daily but i think the developer changed it to 7 days because too many people complained!
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Thanks, I'll give it a trial anyway and see how it fares.
Try Dialer One, a very nice app.
Thanks, it actually turns out that ex dialler doesn't solve the issue with numbers being automatically formatted with spaces etc also, the add contact screen is a bit messy of exdialler, I find go contacts better in that regard, go may even be slightly faster?
Would anyone know how to get around the auto formatting at all? There's an option in exdialler not to use area codes or something which I thought would help but it doesn't.
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Thanks, it actually turns out that ex dialler doesn't solve the issue with numbers being automatically formatted with spaces etc also, the add contact screen is a bit messy of exdialler, I find go contacts better in that regard, go may even be slightly faster?
Would anyone know how to get around the auto formatting at all? There's an option in exdialler not to use area codes or something which I thought would help but it doesn't.
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I don't find a problem with the spaces in the numbers so can't help with that one!
Regarding the add contact, when I click on the + button to add a contact it takes me to my default Motorola add contact screen (which is also messy!) so I'm not sure there is anything I can do about that.
When you add a contact is it taking to you an ex dialler add contact screen?
Yes, I downloaded Ex Dialler and Contacts (I'm not sure if there's a simple "ex dialer" link without the contacts?) but now I can choose either ex dialer contacts or go contacts. Unless ex dialer is using the motorola contacts?
Have now tried dialer1 and contacts+.
Contacts+ is a bit overkill for me and not customisable to get rid of contact pictures, change font etc so it just looks too clunky for me.
I'm very happy with Dialer 1, but there's two things I miss from Go Contacts:
1) The ability to search part names, so say for example you had a contact saved with a long, easily forgetable name, something like josternberg and you could never remember it, but you knew part of his name was "stern", that if you type 78376 it would show up. Unfortunately at the moment it doesn't, but it does in other aps (Go Contacts/Dialer and Contacts+). This would be especially useful for anyone who has saved contacts without putting spaces between certain words. So imagine I had a few hundred android developers phone numbers and saved them as: androiddevappname, I could get to all dialer contacts by typing "342537" for dialer, even though it's surrounded by other characters.
2) Alphabet scrolling in the contact window. At the moment there's only a little green bar that can be scrolled down/up. In Go Contacts/Dialer, there was a permanent alphabet sidebar (small but capable) which you could hit any letter to get to that section of your contacts. I've over 1,000 contacts saved with a sequential first name code starting with VTA (for my business) and after saving a new contact, I used to be able to quickly to the letter "w" scroll up a step and check that the new contact I saved was there, two actions but without the alphabet bar it's going to take a bit of scrolling to get there.
Also waiting on the release of light theme
I am pretty sure you can enable smart dialing in dialerOne settings...
Thanks negus, yes dialer1 does have smart dialing, but will only work at the start of each name, so say if I had you saved in my phone as "xdaforum negus40", I'd be able to find you by numbering in N E G U S or X D A, but not by numbering in U S 4 0 or F O R U M. I sent the dialer 1 team an email which they replied to quickly saying they'll look into adding these functions
So I was looking through the HTC One user guide and I happen to stumble across a 'missing your menu button' section. It details how to set your back button as a menu button. Screenshot attached!
Now I tried doing what they said, but there is no option under the menu (as you all are aware).
So I'm thinking HTC had this feature before, but removed it? Or they were thinking ahead while writing the user guide and so will add this functionality in a future update?
I hate the black bar as many of you do, but it didn't stop me from buying this beast of a phone. I've seen stories where people decided not to buy the One because it had a black menu bar (bit over the top in my opinion).
So what do you think guys? Hope for those that don't want to unlock their bootloader? Hope for those that were still undecided?
(If you want the user guide you can find it on the HTC website)
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I'm not sure why it isn't an option (yet) for the One. The One X used to have the same black bar, then they added the above option. Maybe they think it would be too much for two buttons to control so much? Shouldn't have removed the third button, HTC!
In complete agreement. The black bar is pathetic in my opinion, but phone was still too cool to resist buying it.
Love the phone but black bar is silly. Hope htc get it sorted for next update.
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And if they don't then just pop into the developer threads and choose a Rom that you like. Long-back menu reenabled and the ugly black bar is gone.
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That stupid black bar even appears in games. Quite often, there's no menu options in the bar, either.
ThatNerdGuy said:
So I was looking through the HTC One user guide and I happen to stumble across a 'missing your menu button' section. It details how to set your back button as a menu button. Screenshot attached!
Now I tried doing what they said, but there is no option under the menu (as you all are aware).
So I'm thinking HTC had this feature before, but removed it? Or they were thinking ahead while writing the user guide and so will add this functionality in a future update?
I hate the black bar as many of you do, but it didn't stop me from buying this beast of a phone. I've seen stories where people decided not to buy the One because it had a black menu bar (bit over the top in my opinion).
So what do you think guys? Hope for those that don't want to unlock their bootloader? Hope for those that were still undecided?
(If you want the user guide you can find it on the HTC website)
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The option WAS meant to be there, sadly a bug in retail release meant it doesn't appear. They have managed to enable it by renaming the device and it appears back in the menu, so it's clear that it was a bug / oversight that made its way into retail software.
Sadly.... How long it takes HTC to release an update to remedy it is the big question.
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The option WAS meant to be there, sadly a bug in retail release meant it doesn't appear. They have managed to enable it by renaming the device and it appears back in the menu, so it's clear that it was a bug / oversight that made its way into retail software.
Sadly.... How long it takes HTC to release an update to remedy it is the big question.
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Some leaked news said that HTC intentionally removed the feature as per compliance with google android standards.
Riyal said:
Some leaked news said that HTC intentionally removed the feature as per compliance with google android standards.
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I read that too, and I don't get it.
Samsung on their devices, with an actual menu button is non-compliant, yet that goes through.... Official spec calls for the recently used button and it's no where to be found on the ONE...that's non-compliant...
So, they have to remove a feature that buried within the options and off by default due to "compliance"?
I'm going to lean my hopes on HTC just needing to fix it and bring it back... The feature was even in the phone during the announcement events, so it did exist.
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Some leaked news said that HTC intentionally removed the feature as per compliance with google android standards.
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Google Standard Compliance is not compulsory, it's just a recommended guideline. Google wouldn't force HTC to stick to it if every other manufacturer isn't.
The code is still there in the Rom. What the retail versions lack is the option in settings (an option that is reenabled in most roms)
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Google Standard Compliance is not compulsory, it's just a recommended guideline. Google wouldn't force HTC to stick to it if every other manufacturer isn't.
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There are some thats compulsory... Ask steve kondik aka cyanogen he just got a notice about that last year.
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All i can say, for easiest sake i hope they open it up in an update .. .. .. maybe if everyone hassled them Via Email they would? ? ?
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There are some thats compulsory... Ask steve kondik aka cyanogen he just got a notice about that last year.
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From the 4.1 Compliance Definition Document (CDD). Either way of HTC implementing settings is fine with Google. The fact that no other manufacturer with soft or hard navigation keys has ever had to implement an on-screen settings panel should have been a clue. The only thing that would cause a device to fail Google certification would be violating something labled a "MUST" in the CDD. I take it that Google was OK with HTC killing a dedicated home button and replacing it with a double-tap of another key even though the CDD says "MUST make these functions [home, menu, back] available to users at all times" along with "using dedicated keys." It would seem that the death of the home button would be more signifcant to Google than how settings were accessed.
http://source.android.com/compatibility/4.1/android-4.1-cdd.pdf
That is obviously very old, as they do NOT want you to have a menu button now.
EDIT: I stand corrected. Very strange they would include talk of a Menu in 4.2 when, as I understand it, they encourage phone mfg's not to have a physical menu button.
The black bar is not HTC's fault, it's the application developers fault, who don't adhere to Google's guidelines.
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The black bar is not HTC's fault, it's the application developers fault, who don't adhere to Google's guidelines.
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Tom369, I doubt you are correct. Apps like Tapatalk and most others need a menu button and I think it is htc s fault on how they want to have it.
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If a menu button is coded correctly into an app then you won't see the black bar. If the coders can't be arsed adding the button and code to do the job then you get the black bar. HTC adhered to Google guidelines, coders didn't.
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If a menu button is coded correctly into an app then you won't see the black bar. If the coders can't be arsed adding the button and code to do the job then you get the black bar. HTC adhered to Google guidelines, coders didn't.
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Absolutely correct. But when can you do? Some developers don't keep up, some don't even update their apps at all and have moved on to other things. Who can you blame most? Probably Google. Went with one idea, then drastically changed it.
Personally, when I heard they were dropping a button, I was excited thinking that it'd be the end of the pesky "recently used" button. Totally useless to me unless I'm copying from one app to another... otherwise, it's a bad button since it's behavior is not always *known* to me...
I can't recall what I recently used beyond an app or two, and it goes down to about ZERO if I've had the phone asleep for a while. Furthermore, most implementations take longer to *FIND* the app, IF it's in there than it would to just launch it again from a known location.... this is because the position will vary in the screen shown based on HOW recently used it was.
I blame Google. I get wanting to make it "simpler", but I would have kept menu, and dropped recently used.
We have so many confusing things that occur now with Samsung and LG bucking the trend and keeping a menu button, Motorola adding the [ . . . ] to the side of their on-screen controls when not implemented by an app developer... and HTC getting black-barred when an APP is old or hasn't been done correctly.
Seems like a greater mess for the sake of "simplifying" button count.
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That is obviously very old, as they do NOT want you to have a menu button now.
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It's the CDD for 4.1. Did you read the PDF? I'm guessing not.
Here it is from the 4.2 CDD. Can't get any fresher than that.
Tetsumi06 said:
If a menu button is coded correctly into an app then you won't see the black bar. If the coders can't be arsed adding the button and code to do the job then you get the black bar. HTC adhered to Google guidelines, coders didn't.
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The worst thing is...the xda app has the 3 button menu at the bottom
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