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I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.
xclub_101 said:
I don't think there is such a thing like a 16gb note 3. At least not yet.
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http://negrielectronics.com/phones/android-mobile-c-67.html
According to the above link...the 16 gb version does exist.
Does the n9005 model have AT&T LTE for sure?
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Earthbrain said:
I have a Note 2 that I bought from AT&T. I want to upgrade to the note 3 but I want the N9005 version because I believe that it will be able to use G4 LTE signal from AT&T. The only place that I can buy the unlocked N9005 version is at Negri Electronics. However it only sell the 16 gb version and I want the 32 gb version. Is there any other place in the U.S.A that sells the N9005 unlocked version?
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Before committed to pay big $ for the phone ... check out this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2457964
I'd buy what you're looking for in a heartbeat - if it existed. So far it doesn't. At least not ln any of the N3's for the UK, EU, or Latin America that have been announced. The Korean S-800 SGS4 supports AT&T's bands so their N3 probably will also. But the Korean phones have funky TV h/w and a funky MMS system that's different than Western versions. Rogers' (Canada) version will be compatible with AT&T LTE and may be closer to "virgin" than AT&T's version. The challenge is warranty service both because you'd have to send it to Canada for repair (assuming Rogers' services a phone for a non-subscriber) and because Knox prevents resetting the warranty status if a non-standard ROM's been flashed. Speaking of which, you'd probably only be able to flash Rogers' ROMs via Odin unless their N3 was a "pure" i9505 capable of using international ROMs.
And as someone above mentioned there's some question as to what "unlocked" means with the N3 as there are now regional limitations on top of carrier's locking phones to their networks.
If I find a true international N3 that works on AT&T's LTE that's not regionally SIM locked I'll let you know. Until then I'm sticking with AT&T's version and hoping they haven't molested it too badly.
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The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700
designgears said:
The N9005 doesn't work on AT&T LTE, it is missing bands 700/1700
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Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.
choch69 said:
Will the N9005 work on the Rogers network in Canada? I have no idea what these bands and frequencies mean, I just know that I need LTE to work.
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You can't just say "N9005" and expect to get an answer. "N9005" refers to generic Snapdragon 800 LTE capable version of GN3, but each country and carrier in the world has different LTE bands enabled in that Snapdragon's SoC radio. Find your Rogers here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks
It operates on bands 4 and 7 - none of the Euro countries' carriers work on band 4, as you can see from the list. AT&T USA, T-Mobile USA and Rogers CA should be LTE cross compatible in most coverage areas, but not all.
If you buy N9005 version with unlocked bootloader - later, when someone makes Odin compatible with GN3 you will be able to flash Roger's LTE modem firmware to your N9005, no matter which country it is from and what LTE bands it currently has enabled
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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.
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Okay well I was looking to buy an unlocked N9005 from the UK. Since none of the euro countries work on band 4, what about band 7? Do both bands need to be working in order to get LTE? The problem with buying this in my country is that there wont be a 64gb option available.
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Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.
This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
Apo11on said:
Some carriers, which operate on dual band LTE use one band for upstream, and the other for downstream. If that is the case with Rogers you will have to have a phone with both bands enabled, to get LTE service from Rogers. However, even if that is not the case and both bands 4 and 7 are independent - Rogers has towers all over Canada, and in some regions those towers will operate on band 4, in other regions it will be band 7 and in some places towers will support both. By getting a phone that supports only band 7 you will greatly reduce your LTE coverage area. What percentage of Rogers' network uses what band - those details are publicly available, so you can either Google it or just call Rogers and ask. I would recommend against getting a phone, that supports only band 7, unless you plan on flashing Roger's modem to it later.
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This not quite correct. A band, by definition includes both the up and downstream frequencies. Only one band is used at a time. Rogers happens to use band 4 and band 7. One is not reliant on the other. If you are in an area with band 7 coverage (most of Rogers LTE coverage has both) you will be able to use a N9005.
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you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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The OP needs to take into consideration that If he buys from an online retailer an international unit, this unit will need to be activated in its intended region before he can use it in the states.
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you're correct by claiming each band is self contained and and can carry both, upstream and downstream. However, each carrier owns only a small portion of the spectrum in the bands they operate on, and some carriers do practice using a single band for one way traffic only, in an effort to ease the network congestion and load balancing. I'm not saying it's Rogers - I have no information on that particular carrier, but some carriers do do that. I'm just saying for carriers, who use such practice, in order to get LTE service your phone's modem must have both bands enabled, otherwise it won't register with the network and you won't get LTE service at all.
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I've never heard of that. Seems like a problematic setup since the RF properties of bands can vary so much. Seems like you would get in a situation where you have up but not downstream or vice versa.
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.
omegacell said:
Yes, you would need a N9005 from Asia, not Europe as those are region locked.
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Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?
Apo11on said:
Do you have a link for a source, where you got that information from? Or better yet - list of countries/markets, where GN3 will not be region locked?
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Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".
omegacell said:
Email me or hit me me up through my site. We're a retailer/wholesaler, not sure if I'm allowed to post about that since it would be "advertising".
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that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.
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that is a valuable information, which a lot of people, watching this thread could use, not just me. I don't think it will be considered as advertising. People in this thread are looking to buy international GN3, which will work on AT&T in US. If the phone is region locked then it won't work. Therefore, listing the countries, where there is no region lock would be very much relevant to this topic.[/QUOTEN
N9005 from HK or Singapore (perhaps others too) will work.
The South American N9000 are region locked to South American, North American, carribean etc. SIM cards (western hemisphere).
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Based on the specifications, it has GSM bands used by both, however SM-N920R4 is US Cellular CDMA...
toshik1 said:
Based on the specifications, it has GSM bands used by both, however SM-N920R4 is US Cellular CDMA...
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Just from looking at the specs for this specific device it appears that it will work on all of T-Mobile's LTE bands but it is missing LTE band 17 support for AT&T. The 2G and 3G bands will work just fine as they match the specs for the N920T/N920A from both carriers. The only thing I am not certain of at this time is if you will have to have the device unlocked to be used with another carrier. Were you using this device on US Cellular or did you just pick this device up recently and want to use it with AT&T or TMO?
Ok thanks, the deal never went through
Hi,
I bought an one plus 3T in india and brought it to US. I'm getting only E not even 3G. When I enquired in T mobile/lyca store, i was told that india unlocked mobile won't support the US bands. Network upgraded. It was big surprise to me. Please suggest me how to unblock additional LTE bands in my 3T mobile.
That's not possible, you should trade your 3t A3003 for a 3t A3000 American band-unlocked model.
Check the specifications for each model under connectivity.
https://oneplus.net/us/3t/specs
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
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thes3usa said:
Wait, what?
I live in Sri Lanka (Tiny country below India) and my 3T is the Indian device. I toured Europe for 2 weeks, and I used an O2 Sim, and used LTE in Europe for the whole time I was there. Have you tried going to Settings, and selecting "LTE/3G Only"? That may fix your issue.
I swear, there should be no issue with the bands.
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Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.
smokin901 said:
India uses FDD 850, 1800 and TDD 2400. Most of the Europe uses TDD 1800. So you getting LTE in Europe is not a surprise.
USA uses 700, 1700, 1900, 2100, 2300
Varies with MSP
You will at least get 3G with T-Mobile and AT&T
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3003 using Tapatalk
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bonham1988 said:
Europe and india uses the same bands. I lived in uk and used the uk phones in india and indian phones over there. Its the states that uses different frequencies so most of phones don't work properly outside states.
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Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.
thes3usa said:
Ah, thanks for clearing that up for me. I had no clue that it uses the same bands.
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Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).
redpoint73 said:
Compatibility of phones with the cell networks in the US are a total pain in the you-know-what. We have 4 different major carriers, all using different bands (a little bit of band sharing, but most completely different) for 3G and LTE (GSM is a little more standardized thankfully). Basically, as a general rule if a device not intended/designed to work on US (and depends on which exact US carrier), you are probably going to run into some incompatibilities (no 3G or no LTE, or limited connectivity).
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Talk about synchronicity eh? But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity? In the blind about these stuff, coming from a country that has only one carrier out of five who is still beta testing VoLTE.
thes3usa said:
But do the difference in bands give any speed differences, or call clarity?
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Not an expert, and had to Google that. From what I'm reading, lower frequency (MHz) has better penetration (through buildings, etc.) while higher frequency bands have higher data capacity.
There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
pk-air said:
Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.
pk-air said:
There are steps on how to unlock additional bands. There are like 50 steps. I dont remember where I've seen it but if you google how to unlock bands on OnePlus you will find it. Also try to flash Oxygen OS from US web site which I see no reason to work but just a suggestion lol
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There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
thes3usa said:
There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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No you can't switch but you can unlock some bands which might help
https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-3/how-to/guide-unlock-additional-lte-bands-t3519563
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There are no region specific versions of OxygenOS, so this will do nothing but reflash the latest update.
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as I said I dont see any reason for it to work
thes3usa said:
There are no steps at all. You cannot "unlock" bands, as they're hardware related. There's no way to switch bands out of the blue.
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At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.
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At one time that was true. But for Qualcomm SoCs, the band support stopped being set in hardware (at least for the most part) some 3 years ago with Snapdragon 801 (or maybe earlier, but definitely with 801). Support for all or most bands (might be some exceptions) used worldwide is there, but the specific bands are enabled in firmware.
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/rf
That said, enabling bands is a long process as noted; and has the risk of resulting in a radio brick. So it's best to buy the correct region version OP3T (which supports the needed bands out of the box) when possible.
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Why aren't all bands just enabled by default then? I don't understand why there are different models for different regions.
I have a US OP3T and I'm visiting India. It''s working with Jio in India (although it supports only only of the 3 bands used by Jio) but VoLTE doesn't work for some reason.
after watching Pocket Now's video on the Note 9's LTE speed, it got me excited. Excited til I realized their unit is a snapdragon 845 and the Exynos will have its own benchmarks.
Anyone have any idea how the Exynos version compares?
didn't watch video, but what are the actual results?
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version. My results:
download = 51.3 mbps
upload = 6.2 mbps
are my test results in line with the results from the video?
Mine is an exynos version on 3uk and I recorded 73.2 down and 42.2 up. Upload speed is 4 times my home broadband speed
nycalex said:
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version.
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It's not.
My Exynos Note9 result
entropism said:
It's not.
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you are right, even unlocked ones are snapdragon
Dolgogi said:
My Exynos Note9 result
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what the heck......
i'm in NY metro and my LTE speeds suck
Updated test
For a comparison, here's my Note8 Exynos model result.
Tested in the same location last week before my Note9 arrived.
The test's were done at almost the same time last week and today
nycalex said:
didn't watch video, but what are the actual results?
i have unlocked usa version with ATT LTE, i'm sure mine is the Exynos version. My results:
download = 51.3 mbps
upload = 6.2 mbps
are my test results in line with the results from the video?
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the tldw is 160mbps speed test in congested downtown NYC, on t-mobile.
soraxd said:
the tldw is 160mbps speed test in congested downtown NYC, on t-mobile.
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i'm about 5 miles from there and getting 51mbps on an unlocked version with ATT as the carrier.
this is seriously pissing me off.
i'm going to exchange my unlocked one for an ATT branded one.
screw unlocked, carrier branded it is going forward
Unlocked US version on AT&T, pretty poor signal strength here at work, but still phenomenal speeds considering.
nycalex said:
you are right, even unlocked ones are snapdragon
what the heck......
i'm in NY metro and my LTE speeds suck
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Because AT&T's main bands are 71 and another one which i forgot which aren't supported on the US unlocked variant or any other. They're not gunna treat unlocked customers like they do their own.When you have a carrier, it is important to know these types of things when choosing your phone. Just because it supports GSM and CDMA means almost nothing to you (unless you plan on switching carriers a few times in the lifesoan of the phone) as AT&T only uses GSM. The unlocked supports more bands but no model supports all of them. You also have to take into account carrier features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
LTE/modem speeds are hard to test as the actual speed vary mostly from the network towers, how many connected users yours have, how much they download, the signal strength and so on.
For a real tests a lab is needed and from there are the stated measurements from the manufacturers. The exynos model is good.
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Because AT&T's main bands are 71 and another one which i forgot which aren't supported on the US unlocked variant or any other. They're not gunna treat unlocked customers like they do their own.When you have a carrier, it is important to know these types of things when choosing your phone. Just because it supports GSM and CDMA means almost nothing to you (unless you plan on switching carriers a few times in the lifesoan of the phone) as AT&T only uses GSM. The unlocked supports more bands but no model supports all of them. You also have to take into account carrier features like VoLTE and VoWiFi.
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The US Unlocked variant DOES support band 71. It supports all the bands any of the US Carriers use.
You are correct about VoLTE and WiFi calling using the unlocked phone on ATT. However, both those features work perfectly on T-Mobile.
If you have ATT and want VoLTE or WiFi calling, or for some reason you don't think you're getting full band support (you are), then just flash the ATT firmware. They are all the SAME EXACT device. No difference in hardware at all. Been this way since the S8/+.
It's important to know these types of things when choosing your phone.
Exynos ee Coventry
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The US Unlocked variant DOES support band 71. It supports all the bands any of the US Carriers use.
You are correct about VoLTE and WiFi calling using the unlocked phone on ATT. However, both those features work perfectly on T-Mobile.
If you have ATT and want VoLTE or WiFi calling, or for some reason you don't think you're getting full band support (you are), then just flash the ATT firmware. They are all the SAME EXACT device. No difference in hardware at all. Been this way since the S8/+.
It's important to know these types of things when choosing your phone.
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Flashing ATT firmware in odin wont change csc since s7
SamGuy2020 said:
Flashing ATT firmware in odin wont change csc since s7
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CSC changes automatically depending on what SIM you have installed.
Today, all of a sudden, I see 5G showing up on my HK model G9980. I just did the big update Doesn't feel faster than LTE. Does anyone else know about this?
Has TMOB got additional 5G banks that work in the US ? Did they just switch them on? It means this is now a US and much of ROW 5G phone.
It's Low Band 5G on Tmobile, as you stated not much different than 4G LTE. Tmobile doesn't offer super fast mmWave 5G, only Verizon and AT&T but at this point their coverage is very limited. Since there's not much difference between Low Band 5G and 4G LTE it might be better to stick with 4G LTE as 5G consumes more power. You can check compatibility with your IMEI Number here.
Bring Your Own Unlocked Phone | IMEI Compatibility Check & Activate Online | T-Mobile
Bringing your own device to T-Mobile is an easy way to switch. Check your IMEI for compatibility, follow these steps, and activate your phone online today.
www.t-mobile.com
Yes, but the point is the 9880 doesn't have band 260 and 261, and up until today I never had 5G in the US on this device.
ekerbuddyeker said:
Yes, but the point is the 9880 doesn't have band 260 and 261, and up until today I never had 5G in the US on this device.
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It's likely 5G Band N41 anchored to 4G LTE on Band 2. Both of these are functional on the SM-G9980 and utilized by Tmobile.
Can you explain what you mean? I would like to understand better.
I notice there's a developer option called 5G Network Mode (SA + NSA etc). What is that all about?
Wonder why it showed up after the latest update...
ekerbuddyeker said:
Can you explain what you mean? I would like to understand better.
I notice there's a developer option called 5G Network Mode (SA + NSA etc). What is that all about?
Wonder why it showed up after the latest update...
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NSA anchors the control signaling of 5G Radio Networks to the 4G Core, while the SA scheme connects the 5G Radio directly to the 5G core network, the control signaling does not depend on the 4G network.
It says 5G most of the time now but speeds are essentially the same as 4g in the US. So it isn't real 5G?
OP just got his juices flowing.
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I've noticed significantly better speeds in Chicago.
Have the new 5G UC Icon
rockky said:
I've noticed significantly better speeds in Chicago.
Have the new 5G UC Icon
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On the 9880??? Which device do you have?