kitkat concers. please take time to help a newbie - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Ok so after reading about the limitation on kit kat regarding sd card, i got really confused being a newbie in technical aspects so i was hoping people here can shed a light on my questions:
1. Is the touchscreen issue fixed on kitkat?
2. If i update right now to kitkat, will all my pictures and mp3 saved in sd card be still readable and playable? Or will they be gone? Some people reported breaking sd card after updating.
3. Can i still download music and use file comando(never ised that app before) to move files to sd card?
4. If i use stock camera, images are still saved in sd right?
5. If i have an app moved to sd, and updated the app after updting to kitkat, will i still lose my saved files?
6. Does this limitation mean that we can no longer download files bigger than the internal memory of the phone? Isnt that going to make our xperia z1 useless if you have big apps and only have like 2g internal memory left??
7. I read something about apps can still write on your sd if they make a private folder but i dont understand it. So does this mean we can still download files directly to sd if the app supported kitkat?
Those are some of the questions i have for now. Please please someone answer me cause im really confused.. Thank you.

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1. It was fixed already in .136 4.3, if you still have problems go via Warranty.
2. Yes, with some specific applications.
3. No, you have to get root.
4. I think so.
5. How did you moved the apps to SD? it was never possible from 4.2.2.
6. Ask Google.
7. You are will not be allowed to write to SD until you get Root and modified system to do it. Search on Z1 section, is there.
Best answer for all your question is: Do not Update to KK.

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new razri user few questions

hi
should be getting mine today
how is everybody coping with the low storage issue?
i have been reading up on directory bind and also rickywyatt method
i dont plan on unlocking the bootloader but i do plan on rooting
What low storage issue are you talking about?
While most of them are installed on the SD, I have a lot of installed applications (about a hundred) and I still have more than 3Gb available (internal storage).
An SDcard can be used for your pictures/videos/games, up 32Gb (at least).
If you want to root your phone and don't want to unlock your bootloader, then don't upgrade it.
However, depending on the installed firmware, it may be impossible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
Motorola has fixed the root exploit in the last update.
ciberbeb said:
What low storage issue are you talking about?
While most of them are installed on the SD, I have a lot of installed applications (about a hundred) and I still have more than 3Gb available (internal storage).
An SDcard can be used for your pictures/videos/games, up 32Gb (at least).
If you want to root your phone and don't want to unlock your bootloader, then don't upgrade it.
However, depending on the installed firmware, it may be impossible to root without unlocking the bootloader.
Motorola has fixed the root exploit in the last update.
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oh, that was something i wanna ask, so if i download Need for Speed MW the 2 gb will install on the SD?
I can't see that it goes to the sd card everything I have downloaded has gone onto the internal memory
App2sd doesn't work so I think the only two methods we can use are directory bind or the internal swap memory trick
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emu123 said:
I can't see that it goes to the sd card everything I have downloaded has gone onto the internal memory
App2sd doesn't work so I think the only two methods we can use are directory bind or the internal swap memory trick
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Did u tried using this app? i dont have a good connection so i cant try it by myself with games https://play.google.com/store/apps/...t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5zbGYuTGlzdGdsQXBwIl0.
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oh, that was something i wanna ask, so if i download Need for Speed MW the 2 gb will install on the SD?
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It depends on the application. Some apps put thier "big" files on the sdcard, some won't.
As emu123 said, you can use an app like Apps2sd to move them from the internal to the external storage.
Even if I install a lot of games, I never ran out of storage. That was the case with my old HTC Desire HD.
Big games can use up to 400Mb, I still have more than 3Gb, which means I can install, at least, 7 big games (but some of them will put files on the SDcard if present). It won't ever happen.
EDIT: I think Apps2sd doesn't work with Android 4.x. Not sure, but I think that the system manages where to install apps when internal storage is full.
I already suggested the ability to move apps to the SD card on the motorola forums, Razr I discussions:
I even got an answer!
I'm a new user so I can't post links search it
Agustinb14 said:
I already suggested the ability to move apps to the SD card on the motorola forums, Razr I discussions:
I even got an answer!
I'm a new user so I can't post links search it
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I'm not sure the "gosh that's a good idea, we'll pass it on" really counts as an answer - almost as if no-one had ever thought of it before!
Does anyone know how to disable vibro on screen unlocking?
Hi, I set up a thread (in my signature) specifically for for those of us new to Motorola - I just got my first Moto phone 2 days ago too. You may find the thread helpful - I will update it with any info. that people need.
How do you mean low storage? Internally? 8GB (practically 5GB) is low to you? Compared with what? Most phones in the upper tier of mid-range have 8GB and many top-range phones start with 8GB...it seems perfectly normal to me. Either way, do you have an SD card? I've a 32GB for my music and it's now full...some phones load the SDs so slowly...but NOT thins phone, all of my music is found in seconds. :fingers-crossed:

Warning: 4.4.2 update breaks SD card access!

So, I just installed the 4.4.2 OTA and I immediately noticed one big problem: I wasn't able to modify content on my SD card. I wasn't able to delete folders, or create folders, or create files. Reading content was no problem, and the camera app was able to save pictures to the card, but going through a file manager wouldn't work.
I started to do some research and I found this post from the developer of my chosen file manager, FX:
https://plus.google.com/+TodLiebeck/posts/gjnmuaDM8sn
Then, while getting ready to post this, I found another related thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2641936
I thought this was a big enough deal to warrant a new thread here. Bottom line is you may want to hold off on this update, or at least go in with your eyes open because for a lot of people, like me, this is a BIG problem. It's damned near a dealbreaker for using my S4 as a matter of fact. Note that it does seem you're able to use the My Files app, but that's almost useless to me: FX has SMB support and I'm constantly pulling files off my server. I even have FolderSync set up to run every night, but I don't expect that'll work either (I'm about to try now).
Whether Samsung spits out a fix quickly, or whether I can root and fix this, it's a pretty significant problem. Be aware folks!
Then I will update after a stable de-knoxed ROM is available.
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Thanks.for this. I think I will still update as I plan on staying unrooted and will use "my files".
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anees02 said:
Then I will update after a stable de-knoxed ROM is available.
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I'm all for avoiding Knox, but in this case it appears to not be Knox-related after all... looks like it was a permission change that Google mandated for devices with external storage and Samsung followed the specification to the letter. I think Tod Liebeck explained it better than I can though. I can only hope Samsung gets it together and quickly releases a patch... I've read in another thread that they may have done this before and quickly put out a fix... if so, shame on them for making the same mistake twice, but so long as a fix is forthcoming, so be it. I'm not so sure there will be one though, that's my concern.
It's early to call that is the bug since nobody mentioned this issue.
And all are busy how to update.
I will wait 48 hours until all things be more clear.
Could you try another SD card and tell us if the issue is happening to the new sd card?
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anees02 said:
It's early to call that is the bug since nobody mentioned this issue.
And all are busy how to update.
I will wait 48 hours until all things be more clear.
Could you try another SD card and tell us if the issue is happening to the new sd card?
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Thing is, it was something that was apparently talked about before the update on other devices with 4.4.2. It's not a bug per se, Samsung did what Google told them to do, and Google told them to do it, I'd bet, to push people towards cloud storage since they don't want external storage used anymore anyway. None of that matters though because the fact is it's hurting some users (though I'd agree that not all will be impacted- it all depends on how you use your device).
A different card wouldn't matter, it's not related to that at all. It's a permission change that Google mandated with 4.4 (or 4.3, I've seen some conflicting info) that only impacts devices with external storage, and Samsung chose to follow Google's specification exactly in this case, to the detriment of (some) users.
FYI, *IF* you're rooted, here's a solution that fixes this. Worked for me and easy to do:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2524277
Just remember to keep a copy so you can quickly undo it to take an OTA since I assume it'll stop an OTA.
Soooo lemme get this straight... Lets say I update to KitKat (NAE)and root it, and I have apps on my computer (like Flappy Bird APK for instance), I now cannot copy the Flappy Bird APK onto my SD Card then place it (using a root explorer) in system/app and use it?! If so this is a huge deal-breaker... Or am I misunderstanding this and there's more to it?
thankfully you can still create on the SD card from a computer when plugged. but i can confirm you cannot create anything on the SD card from ES file explorer, you can still create on the internal storage just fine tho
Joe0113 said:
Soooo lemme get this straight... Lets say I update to KitKat (NAE)and root it, and I have apps on my computer (like Flappy Bird APK for instance), I now cannot copy the Flappy Bird APK onto my SD Card then place it (using a root explorer) in system/app and use it?! If so this is a huge deal-breaker... Or am I misunderstanding this and there's more to it?
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You can still copy from your computer if you use a USB cable... if you instead have a shared drive on your PC and connect to it via SMB from a file explorer, you won't be able to copy a file to the SD card.
In addition, using a third-party file explorer you won't be able to create, rename, delete or edit files or directories on the SD card, nor will you be able to copy files from internal storage to your SD card. This is strictly a limitation placed on non-system apps (meaning any you yourself install).
If you're rooted though, a quick edit to a single system file will deal with this, but nobody should *have* to do that.
fzammetti said:
You can still copy from your computer if you use a USB cable... if you instead have a shared drive on your PC and connect to it via SMB from a file explorer, you won't be able to copy a file to the SD card.
In addition, using a third-party file explorer you won't be able to create, rename, delete or edit files or directories on the SD card, nor will you be able to copy files from internal storage to your SD card. This is strictly a limitation placed on non-system apps (meaning any you yourself install).
If you're rooted though, a quick edit to a single system file will deal with this, but nobody should *have* to do that.
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That's ridiculous... what the hell Android/Samsung?!
Wow! Not trying to rub it in or anything but thank goodness I switched to the Nexus 5. What a nightmare. I hope Samsung fixes it soon for you guys
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Thanks for this, lets go here for any further discussion...http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2646762

I cannot write to microSD card (128Gb)!!

Any solution? Many thanks for your kind help!
First things first. Can you write to the SD card using the built-in File Commander app?
plvigo said:
Any solution? Many thanks for your kind help!
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This really needs a fuller description of the problem: what exactly are you trying to do, what do you expect to happen, and what happens instead?
ghtop said:
This really needs a fuller description of the problem: what exactly are you trying to do, what do you expect to happen, and what happens instead?
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Also is the sdcard genuine..?
Millions of fakes around..
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I had same problem,first question should be where did you buy it and for how much? For example sellers from eBay are selling 128gb SD card for 15£ only but it's just rebranded 32 or 64gb cards!
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Hi!
This is the Sd 128Gb I bought:
http://www.amazon.it/SanDisk-Androi...784&sr=8-1&keywords=micro+sd+128+gb+classe+10
I think that is a good one!
I saw that this kind of problem starts with Kit Kat, isn't correct?
It's very strange that I cannot copy from the device any file in the Sd card and viceversa!
Many thanks for your kind help!
It's probably not strange and yes, things changed with KitKat. But since you're still refusing to tell us what exactly you're trying to do and how, we cannot help you.
The device can read the SD card, but cannot write in it any kind of file; it's impossible to move or to copy, paste or delete any kind of file, using all file manager you can find in the google play, also trying with resco explorer for rooter user (my Z3 compact isn't rooted). I hope that this explanation can be clear enough!
It's very strange that you can use the Sd card like the older Jelly Beam system, that allow to move o copy any file from one directory to another or from the internal memory to the SD card!
Many thanks again for your kind cooperation!
Of course it's perfectly possible to copy to/from sd card on KitKat, otherwise what would be the point of even having them in KitKat devices.
But usage is more restricted than in earlier Android versions. Tell us *exactly* what you're trying to do, and we can point you in the right direction.
ghtop said:
Of course it's perfectly possible to copy to/from sd card on KitKat, otherwise what would be the point of even having them in KitKat devices.
But usage is more restricted than in earlier Android versions. Tell us *exactly* what you're trying to do, and we can point you in the right direction.
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I think that my english is not good enough to explain what I would like to do!
I will try again: with my new Z3 compact and the SD Sandisk 128Gb I cannot copy or move a file from the internal storage of the device to the SD card and viceversa. Also, I can write the SD card, for example, to create or to rename or to delete a file or a directory in the SD card.
Is it clear?
I hope so and, once again, many thanks for your kind help!!
Have you tried the File Commander app provided by Sony? Otherwise apps can only write to their own folders.
ghtop said:
Have you tried the File Commander app provided by Sony? Otherwise apps can only write to their own folders.
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Yes, I tried!
With the File Commander provided by Sony you can manage the SD, but you cannot use the directory which you created (that seems to be only for reading and not for writing) for example, for downloading files from app of the device (e.g. Ttorrent).
Any solution?
plvigo said:
Yes, I tried!
With the File Commander provided by Sony you can manage the SD, but you cannot use the directory which you created (that seems to be only for reading and not for writing) for example, for downloading files from app of the device (e.g. Ttorrent).
Any solution?
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You *can* use it for writing ... with File Commander ... but as I stated, otherwise apps can only write to their own folders, e.g. SD card > Android > data > com.yourapp.something
Apps that support saving to SD card will typically have the option in their app settings, and they'll use their own app folder for that. Like Google Music or all of Sony's own apps.
You can also copy stuff to/from top level folders via USB or Wireless Media Transfer.
ghtop said:
You *can* use it for writing ... with File Commander ... but as I stated, otherwise apps can only write to their own folders, e.g. SD card > Android > data > com.yourapp.something
Apps that support saving to SD card will typically have the option in their app settings, and they'll use their own app folder for that. Like Google Music or all of Sony's own apps.
You can also copy stuff to/from top level folders via USB or Wireless Media Transfer.
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Ok!! Many many thanks for your explanation!! Best regards!!
I can't delete photos from my SD since I started using QuickPic rather than the ultra buggy default 'Album' app thing.
Because the same policy applies to all user apps, they only have write access to their own folder for security reasons.

[Q] Can we move apps to external SD on Lollipop?

I'm sorry this can appear as another lame demonstration of lazyness, but I searched everywhere and I just can't understand what is happening with my cellphone.
So I grab my Moto G 2014 8GB yesterday. It asked for Lollipop upgrade right out of the box, which I followed instantly. So I can say I never experienced KK and it quierks with SDCards before - although I know them.
So I keep this handful numbers of apps installed; not just that, they create their amount of data on their own - Pocket, Evernote and some other examples. I was just happy to see the whole storage options appearing on Android 5 - external app, external data and so. But the bottom line was different; I had this feeling that altough I could move some apps 2 external SD, they were not actually being moved. And with OI File Manager (don't laugh, everyone has its preferred file manager) I could check it was really not moving anything at all:
So, what I am not understanding: Why the system shows that I can move apps and that they were moved if anything is going to the external storage?
I can take more pictures showing that my ANDROID folder is quite empty and that the example app is not listed there.
Just so no one calls me lazy, my crazy non-tech opinion is that the Lollipop update allows the moving but the new runtimes (ART) don't.
Can someone with the Android 5 update check where their moved apps went?
REMARK: Just so you have all the info, mine is the XT1068 hw model.
EDIT: Mine is a 32GB Kingston Class4. Hum... Does it pick wich card it could work with?
Am I really being that noob? No one answered me...
Enviado do meu dispositivo móvel.
Well, Lollipop does allow apps to be moved to your SD Card as usual, I don't see what's the issue here..
Everything has been working fine for me, and your apps appear to be moved as well.
Thanks for your reply. Yes, Motorola Lollipop allows apps to be moved to external memory - but it seems my system it's faking it.
I tried something else: I uninstalled the reference app. Nothing happened to external SD, but the internal memory got the whole amount of space that the system pointed out as internal and external ones. Again, the information is right, but the system is not doing what it's showing in the pictures.
Enviado do meu dispositivo móvel.
Yes you can move to sd card
Hey, you can also move move your to external sd card using app called "Link2SD"
If your solution involve root, I'm sorry but it's a no-go for me. I'm tray ng to stay as clean as can - and moto phones seemed my best option for this. But now I can't even download my Evernote data because it's too big and it keeps downloading to internal memory - although it says it's using the external one.
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I am a moto e user..and need my device's elder brother's help
It will be very great full of you guyz if u can confirm if any games are working with their data file placed in sd card ?
i am using moto e(lollipop) and when i place data in sd card it is detected but then the game just shuts down without any message or fc..
That's because data is usually saved on the internal storage. You can move the apps, but not their data.
mpeL said:
That's because data is usually saved on the internal storage. You can move the apps, but not their data.
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My research from the last two days shows exactly this. But it seems that Motorola has made some changes so we could use much more of the external SD card - which is the complaining I have against Moto G 2014.
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Ok i did my research and found that may be those new apps only can be moved which are using the new lollipop api to move the data..as i tested world of tanks(2.5gigs) and it installed fully in sd card..and another one is limbo which too got installed in the sd card..post some more info if u get
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-Adarsh- said:
Ok i did my research and found that may be those new apps only can be moved which are using the new lollipop api to move the data..as i tested world of tanks(2.5gigs) and it installed fully in sd card..and another one is limbo which too got installed in the sd card..post some more info if u get
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could help me with THAT?
IcedG said:
could help me with THAT?
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How can i help u
IcedG said:
could help me with THAT?
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Please check this link:
https://awanstuff.wordpress.com/201...ink2sd-in-any-android-phone-with-screenshots/
It describes the exact way to enable your phone to move all apps to SD. I also ran into the low memory problem and this was my solution.
I have a samsung galaxy S3 on android 5.1.1 by the way. The solution is the 2nd partition on the sd-card that has to be created as primary partition. This is the key. Then Link2SD
sees it and is able to put data on it. There's lots of tools in the play store that promise to handle this and create the partition for you, but none are able to do this correctly. So, you have to resort to a pc and usb-cable and follow the above instructions. Then you can move your apps. Even system apps, but i recommend against that, as i tried this with google play services, but that kept crashing after that, so i reverted the move quickly.
Good luck, it works for me! Can't imagine why it woudn't work for you. :good:

[Q] Xperia V internal storage

So i have the Sony Xperia V (LT25i) and tried to find my way to CM and rooting and all this cool stuff apple users can't get..
I'm also new in this forum but i searched my problem and didn't find anything, if anyone knows more just send the link to the thread and thats it.
I rooted, got bootloader unlocked and tried to flash cm, bricked my phone, somehow got access to the flashtool again and flashed a stock rom, made a factory reset and i think thats all i messed around..
But the problem is now that some apps can't access the internal storage properly for example:
-can't download or upload media in whatsapp
-can't put homescreen via album app (external sd card not found)
i think that's it for now
I hope someone can help
Hi, thank you for using XDA Assist. The best place to find an answer is in your device's specific forum. See this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-t-v
Nooby me..
So just post the same thing in another thread or do you push it there?
I Don't want to spam the forums with my threads and stuff....
Thanks for the reply!!
I'll ask a moderator to move it there. Here's where it'll be moved to, http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-t-v/help
Jeremy183 said:
But the problem is now that some apps can't access the internal storage properly for example:
-can't download or upload media in whatsapp
-can't put homescreen via album app (external sd card not found)
i think that's it for now
I hope someone can help
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Go to Settings/Apps/All, find "Media Storage" and "Clear Data" button, and then restart your phone.
If that doesn't work backup your files and format the SDcard in Android.

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