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[Q] Root for 4.4 OTA Update?

Is there any current root methods for the 4.4 OTA update for the MotoX?
Any and all answers will be appreciated!

Just follow this if you have a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896

mastermind278 said:
Just follow this if you have a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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Thanks!

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bladeofdarkness said:
Is there any current root methods for the 4.4 OTA update for the MotoX?
Any and all answers will be appreciated!
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First you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 (camera update) via RSD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515&highlight=rsdlite
Then Either:
A. Follow All Steps in SlapMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896 (which ends with 4.4 rooted)
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B. Do RockMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590 (which leaves you with 4.2.2 camera update rooted)
Install Safestrap - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Then, Install the 4.4 ROM via Safestrap (plus remember to manually flash 4.4 kernel and radio) - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/
I did the latter, but I think the more mainstream path seems to be the SlapMyMoto method....
up to you...

on OTA 4.4
so is everyone saying if you are on 4.4 there is no way to root unless you follow the downgrade process by jcase?
seems silly I went through all the trouble of buying a develop edition and i just unlocked my bootloader and i still have to do this extensive process just to downgrade to get root and keep root and then upgrade why is there not a quick simply root on 4.4 DE

Valnomien said:
so is everyone saying if you are on 4.4 there is no way to root unless you follow the downgrade process by jcase?
seems silly I went through all the trouble of buying a develop edition and i just unlocked my bootloader and i still have to do this extensive process just to downgrade to get root and keep root and then upgrade why is there not a quick simply root on 4.4 DE
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Ermm correct me if I'm mistaken but the above instructions are only for locked bootloaders. Since you have the dev edition, all you need to do is unlock the bootloader, flash the TWRP port floating around here, reboot and accept the SuperSU installation.
It's that simple. As someone buying a dev edition, I would have thought you would know this.

Sorry I did not know that coming in to this I wasn't really given a choice because moto screwed up cyber Monday I just figured what the hell get the Dev edition as it's protected with warranty and unlock boot loader I did find a cyanogen wiki that eventually lead me to your conclusion I flashed twrp and now rooted thanks
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mastermind278 said:
Just follow this if you have a locked bootloader: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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In other words jump through hoops.

esskayy said:
Ermm correct me if I'm mistaken but the above instructions are only for locked bootloaders. Since you have the dev edition, all you need to do is unlock the bootloader, flash the TWRP port floating around here, reboot and accept the SuperSU installation.
It's that simple. As someone buying a dev edition, I would have thought you would know this.
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I have the non dev edition - I'm guessing it's not this easy then?

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mpkrcl said:
First you need to downgrade to 4.2.2 (camera update) via RSD - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2446515&highlight=rsdlite
Then Either:
A. Follow All Steps in SlapMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896 (which ends with 4.4 rooted)
OR
B. Do RockMyMoto - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2509590 (which leaves you with 4.2.2 camera update rooted)
Install Safestrap - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/
Then, Install the 4.4 ROM via Safestrap (plus remember to manually flash 4.4 kernel and radio) - http://rootzwiki.com/topic/108826-romsafestrapxt1060-stock-rooted-vzw-140455-kitkat/
I did the latter, but I think the more mainstream path seems to be the SlapMyMoto method....
up to you...
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I apologize, my advice above assumed a locked/unlockable bootloader (ATT or VZW retail)
Dev Editions or other carriers are unlockable at Moto's website, then just flash a custom recovery, and flash SuperSU.

Having some issues want to restore

I'm running 4.4 on first gen moto x. I am rooted with jcase method (back when it was script only..lol) I have a loss of battery life. I use to be able to run all day and come home with 40ish %.. I've ran a tad over 9 hours today and I'm at 18%. I have had touch screen issues off "center" for example.. If I'm googleing something and I click on first one pops up I may click on the 2nd or 3rd.. I'd I'm on Facebook and I click "like" it at click on the link.. I am thinking of fxzing my phone back to stock and erase it all. But my concern is 1. If it pulls update before I can stop it, is there a root out for it yet? 2nd, I have not had to root my 4.4 is there an easier way now?
Thanks for the help!!
Slapped my Moto

If you're on 4.4, why not use Sunshine to unlock your bootloader? That way, you don't have to worry about your first or second question.
To answer your questions:
1. It won't and even so, you have to choose to install the update.
2. TowelPieRoot.
I highly suggest you pony up the $25 to unlock your bootloader though.

I'm on Verizon..last I knew it was unlockable..
Edit: OK...nvm done a bit of research...this is awesome.. Only issue I'm having is I try to download sunshine and it basically says its corrupt.
Slapped my Moto

OK another ?. I did the su shine unlock and tried to install CM11 and bootlooped so I had to reinstall stock...trying to do root I remember I need reflash 4.2.2 and use slapmymoto etc to regain root then take 4.4 update... But I don't think its out what if I take 4.4.4 will I still have root?!
I've also seen u can use towlpieroot but once u reboot, u lose it...is there a perm solution?
Sent from my XT1060 using xda premium

If you unlocked your bootloader you just flash twrp and it roots for you. Hopefully you didn't brick by flashing a lower firmware.
You can just use the Verizon fxz in the general section to update to 4.4.4 and then root with twrp. You are unlocked, no exploits or towel pie or slapping. Just root forever
Sent from my XT1060

xpsychox said:
OK another ?. I did the su shine unlock and tried to install CM11 and bootlooped so I had to reinstall stock...trying to do root I remember I need reflash 4.2.2 and use slapmymoto etc to regain root then take 4.4 update... But I don't think its out what if I take 4.4.4 will I still have root?!
I've also seen u can use towlpieroot but once u reboot, u lose it...is there a perm solution?
Sent from my XT1060 using xda premium
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If sunshine properly unlocked your bootloader, you shouldn't have any issues rooting, no matter what ROM you have on your phone.
Once you unlock your bootloader, you do not need to use SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto or the like, nor do you need MotoWpNoMo.
If you get 4.4.2 or higher on your phone do NOT downgrade!!!
PIE and TowelPieRoot only work on 4.4.2, it does not work on 4.4.4. And it is only a temp root, as with a locked bootloader on 4.4.2 and up, you can't disable write protection.
IF you've used Sunshine to unlock your bootloader then, To ROOT Once you unlocked your bootloader, Download the latest TWRP Recovery from -> http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/234 (under the Download-Fastboot heading) and the latest SuperSU from -> http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu or the latest CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and use them while following the instructions in this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738

KidJoe said:
If sunshine properly unlocked your bootloader, you shouldn't have any issues rooting, no matter what ROM you have on your phone.
Once you unlock your bootloader, you do not need to use SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto or the like, nor do you need MotoWpNoMo.
If you get 4.4.2 or higher on your phone do NOT downgrade!!!
PIE and TowelPieRoot only work on 4.4.2, it does not work on 4.4.4. And it is only a temp root, as with a locked bootloader on 4.4.2 and up, you can't disable write protection.
IF you've used Sunshine to unlock your bootloader then, To ROOT Once you unlocked your bootloader, Download the latest TWRP Recovery from -> http://teamw.in/project/twrp2/234 (under the Download-Fastboot heading) and the latest SuperSU from -> http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu or the latest CWM / TWRP / MobileODIN installable ZIP from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1538053 and use them while following the instructions in this post -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/step-step-instructions-unlocking-t2649738
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Deffinatly good to know..but kind of sucks cu now I won't have a nandroid back up..been using safestrap..lol
Sent from my XT1060 using xda premium
Edit: I already ran slapmymoto and m WP is killed long ago (like 4 months ago) so it's done and gone.. I'm thinking of takeing the 4.4.4 but I want root and only temp root is what I found... unless you know of something I don't?

xpsychox said:
Deffinatly good to know..but kind of sucks cu now I won't have a nandroid back up..been using safestrap..lol
Sent from my XT1060 using xda premium
Edit: I already ran slapmymoto and m WP is killed long ago (like 4 months ago) so it's done and gone.. I'm thinking of takeing the 4.4.4 but I want root and only temp root is what I found... unless you know of something I don't?
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You used MotoWPNoMo to disable write protection. If you upgrade to 4.4.2, you'll likely keep root which was provided by SlapMyMoto, but the vulnerability being exploited by MotoWpNoMo was patched, so write protection will be re-enabled.
On 4.4.2 and up, the only way to disable write protection is unlocking the bootloader.
The Vulnerabilities used to gain root via SlapMyMoto on 4.4, and Pie, TowelPieRoot on 4.4.2 are patched in 4.4.4, and there is no root on 4.4.4 unless you unlock the bootloader and flash a custom recovery to root.
That being said. If you have NEVER upgraded to 4.4.4, you could try Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. Its $25, but it checks if your phone is compatible before it charges you. This thread discusses it -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471
And in case you missed the many posts/threads... Once on 4.4.2 or up, DO NOT DOWNGRADE or attempt to downgrade!!!! You will end up with a Brick!! (So this means if you have 4.4.4, you can't downgrade to 4.4.2 or 4.4 to try and use the older exploits/processes.)

that's actually what i did.. lol, thanks though.

[Q] Can I take OTA to 4.4.4 and maintain root?

I have the 2013 model of the MotoX and its XT1058 version. I am currently on KitKat 4.4.2 and it's rooted. I was wondering if I will lose root if I take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and if that is so, is there a way to keep the root on 4.4.4. Thanks!

I second this. Same situation as you (Verizon model) and would like to go 4.4.4 and keep my root.

popcornmeat said:
I have the 2013 model of the MotoX and its XT1058 version. I am currently on KitKat 4.4.2 and it's rooted. I was wondering if I will lose root if I take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and if that is so, is there a way to keep the root on 4.4.4. Thanks!
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If your bootloader is unlocked, yes, you can keep root, though you will need to the reflash supersu.zip (or have twrp automagically do it). Otherwise, no. There is no root available for unlocked 4.4.4. If you don't have an unlocked bootloader, check out the Sunshine thread in the general section.
Is your X an ATT XT1058? If not, you should be able to unlock for free through Moto (there are a number of threads around on doing so). For you @EpicBlob, since you are using a Verizon XT1060, if it isn't the Dev Edition, Sunshine is your only option now and is $25 to use.

Kind of, if root is hidden via superSU you can take the ota & then use sunshine. But why risk it.

As I recall, you can keep root but you will loose write access to system. This means if you use root to modify anything, it wont stick after a reboot. I would advise against it unless you have an unlocked bootloader.

If you have a custom recovery, you need to flash your stock recovery first also. ?

Darth said:
If you have a custom recovery, you need to flash your stock recovery first also. ?
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Where can I find the stock recovery for XT1052 running 4.4.4... tried alot couldnt find it......can u point me...???

JJHunterx said:
As I recall, you can keep root but you will loose write access to system. This means if you use root to modify anything, it wont stick after a reboot. I would advise against it unless you have an unlocked bootloader.
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I have an AT&T XT1058 too, my but i had my BL unlocked through sunshine.
I am still on 4.4, but now that i have my BL unlocked, i want to update to 4.4.4. Why do you say that i can keep the root but i will loose write access to system?
Can't i restore it?

Minato04 said:
I have an AT&T XT1058 too, my but i had my BL unlocked through sunshine.
I am still on 4.4, but now that i have my BL unlocked, i want to update to 4.4.4. Why do you say that i can keep the root but i will loose write access to system?
Can't i restore it?
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You didn't mention you had an unlocked bootloader.
If it were me, I would RSD back to stock 4.4, take the OTA's to 4.4.4, flash recovery, flash root. (Only if you have an unlocked bootloader of course. )

I would just find the 4.4.4 AT&T sbf/fxz and flash it manually instead of taking OTAs.

popcornmeat said:
I have the 2013 model of the MotoX and its XT1058 version. I am currently on KitKat 4.4.2 and it's rooted. I was wondering if I will lose root if I take the OTA update to 4.4.4 and if that is so, is there a way to keep the root on 4.4.4. Thanks!
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EpicBlob said:
I second this. Same situation as you (Verizon model) and would like to go 4.4.4 and keep my root.
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Sorry I'm joining late... But...
If your bootloader is LOCKED (Standard on the ATT XT1058, and Verizon XT1060), then do not upgrade to 4.4.4. You will lose Root. The vulnerabilities exploited by Pie and Towel have been patched in 4.4.4, and you will not be able to re-root.
However, If while on 4.4.2 or lower you have unlocked your bootloader by either using Sunshine, or purchasing an Unlock Code from the China Middle man when available (the only two options to unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 and Verizon XT1060 non-developer edition), you will likely lose root taking the update, but can re-root after 4.4.4 is on your phone.
To take OTA, you need stock recovery on your phone, and to be as close to stock as possible (so the OTA's preflash validation check doesn't fail). After the OTA is installed, flash TWRP, reboot-bootloader and enter TWRP.
The other option is to download the 4.4.4 SBF from one of the sites listed in -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/info-tip-web-sites-official-leaked-roms-t2923347 and flash your phone with it via RSDLite or mFastboot. After flashing, use mFastboot to flash TWRP recovery, reboot-bootloader, then enter TWRP.

[Q] Confusion about rooting

I'm looking to probably upgrade from my GS3 to the GS5. I've read some of the posts on here about rooting, but I'm still a bit confused. It seems that root is only available for 4.4.2, but then you can't keep root and upgrade to 5.0.1. Is that correct?
Also, could anyone point me to a thread that lays out the root method for the phone? I see a lot of people talking ABOUT the thread existing, but no actual links to the thread.
Thanks in advance!

slicetwo said:
I'm looking to probably upgrade from my GS3 to the GS5. I've read some of the posts on here about rooting, but I'm still a bit confused. It seems that root is only available for 4.4.2, but then you can't keep root and upgrade to 5.0.1. Is that correct?
Also, could anyone point me to a thread that lays out the root method for the phone? I see a lot of people talking ABOUT the thread existing, but no actual links to the thread.
Thanks in advance!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803. This is to get root from 4.4.4.
Theres another method to root 4.4.2 u gotta downgrade to a different kernel then use towelroot and then flas the upgraded kernel. Theres a method on here by the same guy that did 5.0 one , just search his name you can find it

Joehen873 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/att...w-to-update-to-g900aoca-5-0-keeproot-t3076803. This is to get root from 4.4.4.
Theres another method to root 4.4.2 u gotta downgrade to a different kernel then use towelroot and then flas the upgraded kernel. Theres a method on here by the same guy that did 5.0 one , just search his name you can find it
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Note that OTA 5.0 just got pushed by AT&T and if you take it, there is currently no way to root or downgrade to 4.4.2 to use towelroot. In fact if you try to downgrade after the 5.0 OTA, you will end up bricking the phone. I'm sure devs around are working on finding a way to root the OTA, but as of today there isn't a way. There is an alternate method using FireFlash which is in beta to install 5.0 on a rooted 4.4.4. Note that if you are just about to buy a S5, it might be preloaded with 5.0 which until probably some time in the future is not rootable.
I would suggest delaying your upgrade from S3 to S5 until someone figures out how to root 5.0 OTA.

YasharF said:
Note that OTA 5.0 just got pushed by AT&T and if you take it, there is currently no way to root or downgrade to 4.4.2 to use towelroot. In fact if you try to downgrade after the 5.0 OTA, you will end up bricking the phone. I'm sure devs around are working on finding a way to root the OTA, but as of today there isn't a way. There is an alternate method using FireFlash which is in beta to install 5.0 on a rooted 4.4.4. Note that if you are just about to buy a S5, it might be preloaded with 5.0 which until probably some time in the future is not rootable.
I would suggest delaying your upgrade from S3 to S5 until someone figures out how to root 5.0 OTA.
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Gotcha. I'm not gonna not upgrade simply because root may not be possible yet if it's already 5.0, but that's good to know. Thanks.

[Q] Trying to upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4

So here's the backstory, about a year ago I bought a fairly new Samsung S5 (SM-G900A) off of swappa.com. It's always been on Straight Talk, so I have never been able to receive AT&T updates. My problem with getting it to Android 5.0 is that my phone needs to be at 4.4.4. I can't find any firmware out there to upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 since AT&T hasn't published their firmware. Any assistance/help/tutorials in finding a way to get my phone up to 4.4.4 would be much appreciated.

HeadBroski said:
So here's the backstory, about a year ago I bought a fairly new Samsung S5 (SM-G900A) off of swappa.com. It's always been on Straight Talk, so I have never been able to receive AT&T updates. My problem with getting it to Android 5.0 is that my phone needs to be at 4.4.4. I can't find any firmware out there to upgrade from 4.4.2 to 4.4.4 since AT&T hasn't published their firmware. Any assistance/help/tutorials in finding a way to get my phone up to 4.4.4 would be much appreciated.
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Are you rooted? Do you want root? 4.4.4 was not much difference from 4.4.2.

dirtydodge said:
Are you rooted? Do you want root? 4.4.4 was not much difference from 4.4.2.
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It's not rooted and I don't need root access. If root is an absolute must than I wouldn't have a problem rooting my device. I wanted 4.4.4 so I can upgrade to the stock AT&T 5.0 ROM.

HeadBroski said:
It's not rooted and I don't need root access. If root is an absolute must than I wouldn't have a problem rooting my device. I wanted 4.4.4 so I can upgrade to the stock AT&T 5.0 ROM.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3076803
Read and follow the instructions in post 1. READ THE NOTES SECTION at the bottom of post 1. You'll need to root with towel root first then you'll be able to flash up to 5.0. I don't know if any way for you to do it regular as i have never had straight talk.