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I've had my optimus black for a few hours now and i'm really liking the screen!
I bought it after being slightly disappointed with the screen and speaker on my desire S (which I still have).
I'm a bit disappointed with the plastic feeling though, and i'm getting a "grip of death" problem with 3G when holding it with my left hand (it loses 2-3 bars compared to holding it in my right hand).
Also i've just noticed a build quality issue on mine, the grill that covers the earpiece has fallen down. I can lift it back up with a pin, but it quickly falls back down again. It looks like the glue didn't work. There is also a small imperfection in the glass right underneath the earpiece. Pic is attached.
Has anybody else had any issues with the cheap build quality?
chancooluk said:
I've had my optimus black for a few hours now and i'm really liking the screen!
I bought it after being slightly disappointed with the screen and speaker on my desire S (which I still have).
I'm a bit disappointed with the plastic feeling though, and i'm getting a "grip of death" problem with 3G when holding it with my left hand (it loses 2-3 bars compared to holding it in my right hand).
Also i've just noticed a build quality issue on mine, the grill that covers the earpiece has fallen down. I can lift it back up with a pin, but it quickly falls back down again. It looks like the glue didn't work. There is also a small imperfection in the glass right underneath the earpiece. Pic is attached.
Has anybody else had any issues with the cheap build quality?
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I've had no real issues with the build quality.
I do hear a very light squeaking sound when I squeeze the right side of my phone, the plastic side of the back cover.
I'm also happy to know that the LG Optimus Black also has Gorilla Glass (discussed here and listed here).
You may want to return your phone for a replacement if the grill keeps coming off.
Ouch, now I'm chicken out to buy this phone.
Iphone4like antenna problem? Bad building quality? (with the known aspect ratio issue) Eeerrrrr, I think I'll choose another one.
chancooluk said:
I've had my optimus black for a few hours now and i'm really liking the screen!
I bought it after being slightly disappointed with the screen and speaker on my desire S (which I still have).
I'm a bit disappointed with the plastic feeling though, and i'm getting a "grip of death" problem with 3G when holding it with my left hand (it loses 2-3 bars compared to holding it in my right hand).
Also i've just noticed a build quality issue on mine, the grill that covers the earpiece has fallen down. I can lift it back up with a pin, but it quickly falls back down again. It looks like the glue didn't work. There is also a small imperfection in the glass right underneath the earpiece. Pic is attached.
Has anybody else had any issues with the cheap build quality?
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I have no issues so far. I hold the phone with right hand i can't replicate the issue. I'm actually quite impressed with the durability considering the plastic nature of it.
so you think it's not a general issue, with the death grip?
This is my first Android phone so i have nothing else to compare to, but it seems i don't lose any signal holding it. But i do have smallish hands so it might be just that.
So don't take my word for it
The bottom of the screen where it meets the speaker's aluminium panel is flush with the aluminium.
The top is not.
It's barely noticeable unless you rub your fingers over the top of the glass.
.1 of a mm or so but it's not flush like the bottom is.
How 'bout your phone?
photo?
you're ocd'ing
shiningarmor said:
you're ocd'ing
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Not obsessing, I feel no compulsion and I'm not disordered, thanks.
Just observing that the glass is flush at the bottom and not quite flush at the top.
kultus said:
photo?
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It's barely there.
shiningarmor said:
you're ocd'ing
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No, he isn't.
Mine has it too - glass is raised at the top so it's not flush where the top speaker grill meets the screen on mine. Went to a couple stores and the ones I saw had this too - sometimes in the same place, sometimes not.
Perhaps it's a manufacturing limitation
paddylaz said:
No, he isn't.
Mine has it too - glass is raised at the top so it's not flush where the top speaker grill meets the screen on mine. Went to a couple stores and the ones I saw had this too - sometimes in the same place, sometimes not.
Perhaps it's a manufacturing limitation
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i think its the overhang thing
do u mean , the glass is higher than the speaker grille?
Is it the screen that is not flush, or is it that the speaker grille is fitted too low at the top? Which is to say, is the screen flush all the way along the sides of the device?
edit: shiningarmor beat me to it
The overhang on the unibody is a problem I think some people are having but not with mine. I think that's a separate issue but don't quote me on that..
If The Op has what I have then basically the issue is if you feel along the line where the speaker plates (either the top one, the bottom one, or both if you're REALLY unlucky) meet the glass you cann feel the glass is raised (on mine it's the top right corner) to the extent that you can basically feel the edge of the glass. I've seen this on some store models - sometimes it's like this and sometimes it's the exact opposite - I.e. the glass feels like its set too low and the speaker grill can be felt when you slide your finger from screen to grill.
So yeh basically issues with how flush the glass and metal are when they meet. This seems to only (from what I've seen) occur at the speaker grills, all seems fine on the sides of the phone
compact_bijou said:
The bottom of the screen where it meets the speaker's aluminium panel is flush with the aluminium.
The top is not.
It's barely noticeable unless you rub your fingers over the top of the glass.
.1 of a mm or so but it's not flush like the bottom is.
How 'bout your phone?
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I have 2 theories:
1)Maybe because of the pyramid stacking of screen-battery-pcb?
Do you have a problem if you dismantle your device?
Aha, someone already did it:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/HTC+One+Teardown/13494/1
2)Or could it be that the top speaker grill is not flush with the glass?
What do you guys think?
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This seems to only (from what I've seen) occur at the speaker grills, all seems fine on the sides of the phone
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Then the screen isn't misaligned - the speaker grille is, surely? And, if so, it IS the same problem as the overhang thing, just on a different axis. And likely, this is the same cause of the "tiny gap" - misaligned/poorly fitted speaker-grille.
Of course, it doesn't matter to you because you have a flawed device, but for the rest of us, it is interesting to note that all reported build issues could be traced back to that single point of error.
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Then the screen isn't misaligned - the speaker grille is, surely? And, if so, it IS the same problem as the overhang thing, just on a different axis. And likely, this is the same cause of the "tiny gap" - misaligned/poorly fitted speaker-grille.
Of course, it doesn't matter to you because you have a flawed device, but for the rest of us, it is interesting to note that all reported build issues could be traced back to that single point of error.
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Yeah you might be right I guess, with the overhang thing though I think some people were describing a phenomena on the side of the handset concerning the bits of plastic - maybe I'm just confused lol!
I'm sending my phone back anyway because I have a screwed up vibrate motor but I'm also for obvious reasons happy at maybe getting another 'shot' at a handset that has a better placed speaker plate/flusher phone.
None of this has dented my enthusiasm though for the One. Wonderful handset.
catachresistant said:
Then the screen isn't misaligned - the speaker grille is, surely?
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Your choice. The screen is 0.1mm higher than the grille. The grille is 0.1mm lower than the screen.
And stop calling me Shirley.
compact_bijou said:
And stop calling me Shirley.
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Ha! Classic!
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Hahaha love that film.......that guy whose scared of flying:
Old lady passenger: Nervous?
Man: (nods whilst sweating in his seat during takeoff)
Old lady: This your first time?
Man: No, I've been nervous loads of times
I got same on my handset. No gaps or anything else wrong with it.
In order to make sure I get a problem free handset I would need to wait until next month for new batch but phones4u only give me 28 days to swap in store.
compact_bijou said:
The bottom of the screen where it meets the speaker's aluminium panel is flush with the aluminium.
The top is not.
It's barely noticeable unless you rub your fingers over the top of the glass.
.1 of a mm or so but it's not flush like the bottom is.
How 'bout your phone?
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I've also got this fault. Doesn't bother me as long as the exposed corners don't shard.
This is with the HT33J batch. Would be interested to see a poll of owners that do/don't have this issue with the batch #.t
Medved77 said:
I've also got this fault
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Once you see it
The same here top and bottom but other wise perfect - probably gonna keep the phone as not to bothered.
I personally think that this is caused by speaker covers not being placed properly
Batch - FA335W
Wooowww people are ocd to the extreme on these forums. I have this ''issue'' as well. Not using it now, a deal breaker for me -__-
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My screen sits lower than the speakers, then once screen protector is on it's all flush. Maybe it's for that reason.
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Anyone else got this serial number prefix? If you have please let me know the quality of finish.
Thanks!
I've got FA35MW, is has almost no problems, screen is properly seated. Not much gap issues. Power button seams good as well.
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Anyone else got this serial number prefix? If you have please let me know the quality of finish.
Thanks!
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Same as mine. Black One built 27th May in Taiwan. Not good.
LenAsh said:
Same as mine. Black One built 27th May in Taiwan. Not good.
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Where did you buy yours? Got mine from amazon UK. What's wrong with yours?
From similar place... screen and speaker grilles misalign - definite step between the lower grille and display, grille is slightly bowed and a gap exists which fills with dust. Large gap between top left speaker grille corner and plastic. Going back.
LenAsh said:
From similar place... screen and speaker grilles misalign - definite step between the lower grille and display, grille is slightly bowed and a gap exists which fills with dust. Large gap between top left speaker grille corner and plastic. Going back.
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When did these problems come to light.... You mentioned on a previous thread that overall the phone was ok apart from one slight gap!
FWIW mine is fine
I would just like a consensus of how many folks have Sprint HTC M8 where the speaker grill holes don't line up on the top and bottom speakers (on the right side) I called HTC and they said this was normal. While it may be nit picking, I don't expect this on such a high end phone.
the top is shorter because of the camera. the camera lines up with the rest of the grill on the bottom
This is normal for many phones. Both the Nexus 5 and the iPhone 5s have a consistent misaligned speakers throughout the line of their products
But yes, both of the speakers are offset to the left on my HTC One m8 as well
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The actual speakers aren't all across on the bottom or top, they're both on the left side.
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I have a different issue with the speaker grilles. I returned my first M8 because the metal(?) plate on the bottom was raised on the right side where it meets the screen, instead of being flush like it's supposed to be. The new unit I got is perfect at the bottom, but now the upper grille is very slightly raised where it meets the screen on the right side (to the right of the camera). I can push it down, but it comes back up after a few minutes (like there's some kind of adhesive that doesn't hold it down properly)... Minor, but very irritating! Anyone else have problems with the speaker cover plates not being flush with the screen?
The bottom right grill is slightly raised on mine
slightly raised on top and bottom on mine
bimmerbot said:
I have a different issue with the speaker grilles. I returned my first M8 because the metal(?) plate on the bottom was raised on the right side where it meets the screen, instead of being flush like it's supposed to be. The new unit I got is perfect at the bottom, but now the upper grille is very slightly raised where it meets the screen on the right side (to the right of the camera). I can push it down, but it comes back up after a few minutes (like there's some kind of adhesive that doesn't hold it down properly)... Minor, but very irritating! Anyone else have problems with the speaker cover plates not being flush with the screen?
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Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I recently bought a used m8 ATT off someone and converted it to the GPE. And now I've noticed that this phone has the metal on the top raising above the screen (right side around the camera). I can push it down but it comes back up after a while.
I contacted HTC and they said that the phone is under warranty but I would have to send it in for diagnostic to see if it qualifies for a warranty repair or they would quote me how much it would be to fix.
I unlocked the bootloader on HTC's website which I'm pretty sure voided the warranty and they will be able to tell no matter what I do. So does anyone know how to fix this annoying issue? DIY style that is
elijahblake said:
Sorry to bring up an old thread, but I recently bought a used m8 ATT off someone and converted it to the GPE. And now I've noticed that this phone has the metal on the top raising above the screen (right side around the camera). I can push it down but it comes back up after a while.
I contacted HTC and they said that the phone is under warranty but I would have to send it in for diagnostic to see if it qualifies for a warranty repair or they would quote me how much it would be to fix.
I unlocked the bootloader on HTC's website which I'm pretty sure voided the warranty and they will be able to tell no matter what I do. So does anyone know how to fix this annoying issue? DIY style that is
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Yes, I fixed mine by just lifting up the grille (it's actually plastic and just held on by adhesive) and applying some new adhesive to the back of the grille. I wouldn't use super-glue, but something a little thicker/gooier to fill the gap. Maybe a dab of silicone (I used something silly... "liquid skin" from the first aid cabinet. It worked, but I wouldn't recommend it because it slightly discolored the coating on the back of the grille!). Good luck!
You can also find replacement grilles online that will have fresh adhesive, but you have to do some searching and I think they come from China, so you'd have to wait a while for shipping.
bimmerbot said:
Yes, I fixed mine by just lifting up the grille (it's actually plastic and just held on by adhesive) and applying some new adhesive to the back of the grille. I wouldn't use super-glue, but something a little thicker/gooier to fill the gap. Maybe a dab of silicone (I used something silly... "liquid skin" from the first aid cabinet. It worked, but I wouldn't recommend it because it slightly discolored the coating on the back of the grille!). Good luck!
You can also find replacement grilles online that will have fresh adhesive, but you have to do some searching and I think they come from China, so you'd have to wait a while for shipping.
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Was yours only raising up on the right corner? If so was it hard taking the whole cover off without messing it up?
elijahblake said:
Was yours only raising up on the right corner? If so was it hard taking the whole cover off without messing it up?
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Yes, it was only raising on the right corner. I didn't try to remove it completely, as I just wanted that side to stay down. Just use something to apply adhesive carefully to the back of the grille (it's flexible plastic), then stick it back down (and apply pressure until it dries).
Is anyone else's xz1 compact body bent or not straight?
I have had mind a couple of weeks and been super careful with it, so I don't think I bent it or something. I didn't notice until today when I set my phone down on a flat table as I was finicking with it when I noticed it rocked back and forth and wasn't perfectly flat to the table. It is particularly noticeable in the front side (I think part of this is due to the edges around the screen not being completely flush or evenly flat. The back does it much less, but I think that may because of the curved back on the back. After looking down the back side of the phone I realized it was clearly not straight and could see It curve.
Anyone with similar issues? Thanks!
The border around the camera lens is protuding a tiny bit from the back of the phone, to protect the lens from scratches.
The top and bottom edges of the phone are protruding to protect the screen from being scratched when placed face down.
Though it does not rock for me.
What sort of curve?
Mine doesn't rock when on its back, and I have a screen protector on the front which is slightly taller than the top and bottom metal caps, so it is also stable.
When I bought my phone in store, per procedure they had me inspect the phone for obvious damage or defects.
The first unit I got unfortunately had assembly issues with the top and bottom metal caps, there was a noticeable gap on both ends and they protruded unevenly. One end protruded to the front, and the other to the back.
At first they tried to play it off as non-issue, citing manufacturing tolerance, and refused to let me exchange a new one, but I insisted and eventually they agreed to give me another unit, which is the one I'm currently using.
Does your unit have similar unevenness with the metal caps? Maybe that's the cause of the instability. I do not perceive any curves on the body of my phone.
The border around the camera lens is protuding a tiny bit from the back of the phone, to protect the lens from scratches.
The top and bottom edges of the phone are protruding to protect the screen from being scratched when placed face down.
Though it does not rock for me.
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I didn't think about the camera, good point, that may be some of the issue when it's on its back. The rocking when it's on its back is mild, so it may be the camera lens ring. However, I can look down the phone close with my naked eye and notice the bend pretty easily.
I do realize the front 'metal caps' protrude a little to protect the screen, but as mhaha says below, those edges are not necessarily uneven. The top metal cap sticks out further, in general, than the bottom. Individually, if I run my finger down the cap edges on the face of the phone I think I can feel where they get closer/further from the screen in places (it is very slight, so maybe that one is more in my head). I also didn't notice the uneven gap edge until you said that, I can't really physically feel that one so I think it's a little less of an issue. But, yes, on the left side of my screen it's super snug up against the side bezel and on the right I can see a very slight gap, in comparison.
My phone rocks bad on its face/front , diagonally from the cameras corner to the corner opposite.
I have actually requested my return (I ordered mine online) and will very likely be sending it back. I am not sure ill get a replacement either, for now just the return.
Thank you both very much!
mhaha said:
What sort of curve?
Mine doesn't rock when on its back, and I have a screen protector on the front which is slightly taller than the top and bottom metal caps, so it is also stable.
When I bought my phone in store, per procedure they had me inspect the phone for obvious damage or defects.
The first unit I got unfortunately had assembly issues with the top and bottom metal caps, there was a noticeable gap on both ends and they protruded unevenly. One end protruded to the front, and the other to the back.
At first they tried to play it off as non-issue, citing manufacturing tolerance, and refused to let me exchange a new one, but I insisted and eventually they agreed to give me another unit, which is the one I'm currently using.
Does your unit have similar unevenness with the metal caps? Maybe that's the cause of the instability. I do not perceive any curves on the body of my phone.
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you may be having this issue?
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-xz1-compact-so-02k-docomo-fuguai-issue-body-twisted-distorted
It's in Japanese but the photo explains, I think.
yyiimm said:
you may be having this issue?
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-xz1-compact-so-02k-docomo-fuguai-issue-body-twisted-distorted
It's in Japanese but the photo explains, I think.
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Yeah, my top metal cap isn't as in line as the bottom, now that I see that. Thanks very much! That would definitely contribute to a wobble on a flat surface.
But, there are still all the other issues I've noted, so I'm quite confident it's a number of issues contributing to it all.
Thanks!
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you may be having this issue?
https://sumahoinfo.com/xperia-xz1-compact-so-02k-docomo-fuguai-issue-body-twisted-distorted
It's in Japanese but the photo explains, I think.
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1230m said:
Yeah, my top metal cap isn't as in line as the bottom, now that I see that. Thanks very much! That would definitely contribute to a wobble on a flat surface.
But, there are still all the other issues I've noted, so I'm quite confident it's a number of issues contributing to it all.
Thanks!
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The photo isn't quite a good descriptor of the problem though.
The photo suggests that it's just the way the metal end-caps are installed is what's causing the rocking.
If you run the link through a translator, the author states that the metal caps are misaligned because the plastic/glass-fiber body itself is warped.
So you may want to look at getting the phone replaced.
I dropped my phone on the road 2nd day of use. The metal edge got scratched, but the phone survived. The only other issue I noticed was twisted body. Looking from the edge, the twisted edge was easy to notice, and surface wobble was also there. I held the edges of the phone and put some pressure in opposite direction (trying to twist it back), and now my phone seems straight/aligned).
Please don't try this at home and come complain to me if something goes wrong. Since I dropped my phone, I couldn't just return it and get it replaced. Also not sure if the drop twisted it, or just pressure in my jeans pocket. Also not sure if the twist will come back. For now, the phone is fine.
I just bought XZ1 (not XZ1C) in UK, and having similar issue.
I'm not sure if the "cap" in misplaced or the whole body is twisted, but when I put the device face down, it rocks
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The photo isn't quite a good descriptor of the problem though.
The photo suggests that it's just the way the metal end-caps are installed is what's causing the rocking.
If you run the link through a translator, the author states that the metal caps are misaligned because the plastic/glass-fiber body itself is warped.
So you may want to look at getting the phone replaced.
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Thanks for the further insight, I'm grateful! I will be returning the phone. I'm undecided on whether or not I would like to purchase another after. I kinda wanted to see how the future quality/reviews are more. Based on some with similar issues, I'm not sure ill be getting another, but I'll see I guess. Thanks again!
I dropped my phone on the road 2nd day of use. The metal edge got scratched, but the phone survived. The only other issue I noticed was twisted body. Looking from the edge, the twisted edge was easy to notice, and surface wobble was also there.
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Thanks very much for your input! I appreciate it. The body twist and warp (these are better way to describe it, thanks, as the phone isn't so much curved/bent as it, or the single piece back/body specifically, is warped) is quite noticeable with the one I have too (looking at the edge like you said). However, I don't think I've dropped the phone (too hard at least and no visible scrathes, scrapes, etc.) I also keep a phone in a coat pocket, bag, or just take it out and set it down when I'm not out and about, so I don't think I would have caused the warp myself. Thanks again!