I've been using the Gear with a Note 3, running on 4.3 MJ6 firmware.
I've uninstalled tons of bloat of my phone. I don't use the stock email program, I use the apk from the nexus 5 which works great.
Here's my problems with the Gear.
Weather would not work. That's fine, I can live without that.
I could not play multimedia audio through the watch, again fine, I can live without that.
The killer problem for me appears to be the multiple notifications. I've only got one email account set up to produce notifications. When an email arrives to this account, the notification is sent to the watch multiple times.
I've tried various Gear Manager 1.6 APK's in my quest to fix this basic but serious fault including the one directly from Samsung Apps. I've also tried the 1.7 version downloaded from the thread here. It seems as though the only "fix" is having no lock screen security at all and dismissing the notification via "view on phone". Obviously this is unacceptable to me.
I also use a Sony SBH52 Bluetooth handset, This manages to handle it correctly.
If anyone has a fix for this, please let me know, otherwise it's on eBay at a very low start price.
There's no problem with playing audio on mine.
Weather works too.
Gmail and other 3rd party notifications all work.
Of all the phones you could have had, you have the best one for this watch. Somehow thru indiscriminate debloating, you've managed to turn it into an unsupported phone like nexus.
klau1 said:
There's no problem with playing audio on mine.
Weather works too.
Gmail and other 3rd party notifications all work.
Of all the phones you could have had, you have the best one for this watch. Somehow thru indiscriminate debloating, you've managed to turn it into an unsupported phone like nexus.
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The debloating is not an issue. Like I said, I can live without weather,and it playing media. All I want is one notification per email, not 3, 4 or 7.
My Sony SBH52 can manage that, regardless of my debloating.
For sure all the notifications including gmail works. And I don't get duplicated notifications. If anything, it may miss one or two because the service on the phone stopped sending them.
Does your svoice work from the gear?
It's great for sending sms.
Also, does your lock screen (pin, password, pattern, etc) autolock when the gear is near?
You could be missing some of the dependencies required for Gear Manager to function properly.
There's a reason why installing Gear Manager on phones other than Samsung's phones, don't work...
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Samsung's software is full of dependencies, it's written such that, it's either functions their way or the highway.
Well if you decide to sell let me know
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I use the Gear with a Platronics Voyager Legend headset and a SGN3 with a Zerolemon 10000mah battery and case.
So far I have been very happy with the way the phablet, watch and headset seamlessly link - no issues whatsoever. My only gripe is with Gmail and the inability to block individuals from email you.
In the past I have had HTC devices and within a matter of a few months I have rooted and debloated these devices installing a thin ROM for speed and battery life. I have so far decided not to root and debloat the SGN3 - firstly my main reason for doing so is the battery life is no longer an issue with the Zerolemon and even with the samsung battery it's not bad at all. Secondly, this is the first Samsung phone I have had and so far I have no issues with the software, yes the SGN3 carries a lot of superfluous stuff but just like my Alienware Laptop, which also carries a load of bloat and rubbish I don't use, its not an issue due to the relative power of the phone compared to the current stock of apps. I can see a point in a couple of years when I may well root and debloat but only when apps reach such a greedy level that new hardware is beckoning. as said above, the interconnectivoty of Samsung stock software means that for all to work properly, removing one part, like svoice for instance, can have a huge impact on the usefulness and reliability of things like headsets and gears. Personal choice I suppose but IIWU I would reinstall the stock rom and give it another chance.. It's an expensive bit of kit not to get the full functionality out of when, unless you are using the SGN3 to remotely control a nuclear reactor, chopping and modding the phone drastically is likely to result in a package that won't give you decent return on investment. Just an observation, it's personal choice at the end of the day.
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I use the Gear with a Platronics Voyager Legend headset and a SGN3 with a Zerolemon 10000mah battery and case.
So far I have been very happy with the way the phablet, watch and headset seamlessly link - no issues whatsoever. My only gripe is with Gmail and the inability to block individuals from email you.
In the past I have had HTC devices and within a matter of a few months I have rooted and debloated these devices installing a thin ROM for speed and battery life. I have so far decided not to root and debloat the SGN3 - firstly my main reason for doing so is the battery life is no longer an issue with the Zerolemon and even with the samsung battery it's not bad at all. Secondly, this is the first Samsung phone I have had and so far I have no issues with the software, yes the SGN3 carries a lot of superfluous stuff but just like my Alienware Laptop, which also carries a load of bloat and rubbish I don't use, its not an issue due to the relative power of the phone compared to the current stock of apps. I can see a point in a couple of years when I may well root and debloat but only when apps reach such a greedy level that new hardware is beckoning. as said above, the interconnectivoty of Samsung stock software means that for all to work properly, removing one part, like svoice for instance, can have a huge impact on the usefulness and reliability of things like headsets and gears. Personal choice I suppose but IIWU I would reinstall the stock rom and give it another chance.. It's an expensive bit of kit not to get the full functionality out of when, unless you are using the SGN3 to remotely control a nuclear reactor, chopping and modding the phone drastically is likely to result in a package that won't give you decent return on investment. Just an observation, it's personal choice at the end of the day.
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Pretty much the same setup as you plus i run a chromebook and chromecast. I find the headset, watch, chromecast and handset work seamlessly together. I recently got the SGN3 and decided to keep stock on it after my S4 which has had every rom on (which i finished with 4.4.2 kitkat google stock rom).
I can pause and skip tracks that are being casted from my phone, on my watch, that alone makes me happy.
Im actually quite enjoying the stock samsung experience. There are a few minor annoyances, but that is mainly due to licencing (netflix, tap and pay etc)
For blocking individuals from emailing you, you can set up a filter in the Gmail web app on your computer. If you just want to delete their messages, you can set them to delete automatically. If you just don't want to see their emails right away, you can set them to 'skip inbox' and go to a label (kind of like a folder) and just read it when you have time.
scooters29 said:
I use the Gear with a Platronics Voyager Legend headset and a SGN3 with a Zerolemon 10000mah battery and case.
So far I have been very happy with the way the phablet, watch and headset seamlessly link - no issues whatsoever. My only gripe is with Gmail and the inability to block individuals from email you.
In the past I have had HTC devices and within a matter of a few months I have rooted and debloated these devices installing a thin ROM for speed and battery life. I have so far decided not to root and debloat the SGN3 - firstly my main reason for doing so is the battery life is no longer an issue with the Zerolemon and even with the samsung battery it's not bad at all. Secondly, this is the first Samsung phone I have had and so far I have no issues with the software, yes the SGN3 carries a lot of superfluous stuff but just like my Alienware Laptop, which also carries a load of bloat and rubbish I don't use, its not an issue due to the relative power of the phone compared to the current stock of apps. I can see a point in a couple of years when I may well root and debloat but only when apps reach such a greedy level that new hardware is beckoning. as said above, the interconnectivoty of Samsung stock software means that for all to work properly, removing one part, like svoice for instance, can have a huge impact on the usefulness and reliability of things like headsets and gears. Personal choice I suppose but IIWU I would reinstall the stock rom and give it another chance.. It's an expensive bit of kit not to get the full functionality out of when, unless you are using the SGN3 to remotely control a nuclear reactor, chopping and modding the phone drastically is likely to result in a package that won't give you decent return on investment. Just an observation, it's personal choice at the end of the day.
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Ok Samsung released an update for the original Gear the day i bought the thing, now i don't know what to do, should i install a Custom ROM such as Null or upgrade to Tizen?
Null for me! my automation home And 100000 possibility only with android!
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Just flip a coin!
Heads is Null.
Tails is Tizen.
Root and install null and play with it for a while until the Tizen offering becomes more pallatable (ie more native apps, and perhaps custom roms). If youget it to do the things you need in a smartwatch and the battery life is sufficient then there is no reason to "upgrade"
If you start to feel that the promise of having access to thousands of android apps is somewhat overated and largely impractical on the gear's form factor (as I did), or you feel that support is/will be slowly being withdrawn on native apps, or that you may need the extra efficiency with the battery life. Then you can always explore Tizen..Just beware that, at present, there is no viable way back.
I was happy to have had the ability to experiment with Null and truly appreciate Fomey's work. But I believe that the future ( for the Gear anyway) lies with Tizen..Hopefully Fomey will come on board and dev for us on the "dark side"
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Root and install null and play with it for a while until the Tizen offering becomes more pallatable (ie more native apps, and perhaps custom roms). If youget it to do the things you need in a smartwatch and the battery life is sufficient then there is no reason to "upgrade"
If you start to feel that the promise of having access to thousands of android apps is somewhat overated and largely impractical on the gear's form factor (as I did), or you feel that support is/will be slowly being withdrawn on native apps, or that you may need the extra efficiency with the battery life. Then you can always explore Tizen..Just beware that, at present, there is no viable way back.
I was happy to have had the ability to experiment with Null and truly appreciate Fomey's work. But I believe that the future ( for the Gear anyway) lies with Tizen..Hopefully Fomey will come on board and dev for us on the "dark side"
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I totally agree
I used stock android
I used null rom
Im now on tizen
I preferred stock to null ,but appreciate what null had to offer
I prefer tizen over them all
This is honestly really interesting for me to read. I just got my Gear in the mail and when i get home it will be the 1st time i have got to mess with one. Just gonna try it out for a little while as is before i decide. Came with Android and im curious about Tizen. Hmm..
I'm enjoying learning about Android to much to swap to tizen at the moment. So far the stock experience of Android or tizen on the gear seems to be very similar. The only major difference so far is that lots of people are reporting better battery life on tizen. However app selection on tizen seems limited. I've really enjoyed playing with different third party apps whilst running null. At the moment, for me, tizen would take more than it gives from my user experience. If that changes somewhere down the line I can always move to tizen. However if I switch to tizen there is currently no way to switch back if I miss the current features I'm using with third party apps on null.
Tizen is for those who want a smartwatch with built in apps and don't want to 'play' with it. I think stock experience is terrible, and I would return the watch if i could not put Null rom on it.
Null is the actual upgrade, Tizen is a downgrade.
Tizen is the way to go if you are using a non-Samsung phone and want to use the watch for what it was meant to be. So much more works out of the box and many of null's features were more of a novelty.
Playing roms on your watch isnt very viable due to the screen and battery life.
Browsing the internet on a watch is cool for a few minutes
Tizen allows notifications to work out of the box, and they work with almost everything. By default, this didn't work in null.
Tizen allows the "find my phone" feature to work. This also didn't work in null on my phone
Tizen gives the watch a mini version of the exercise app. Null doesn't have this, but you can sideload other apps.
Tizen gives the phone a standalone music player that can also play through bluetooth headphones. Null didn't do that for me.
Tizen also supports sleep tracking.
The battery life in Tizen is much better.
The Tizen upgrade is more than just an improvement in battery life.
The only thing I miss from the android experience is the unlocked kernel that allowed me to go from 800mhz single core to 1.6ghz dual core, the 15 second time limit for video being raised to 60 second and the mod that allows offline voice commands to work. Using null for much else lead to a major drain in battery life that caused me to leave my gear at home more often than not. With the Tizen upgrade the gear is now seriously being used as a tool rather than a toy to tinker with.
Of course, I totally understand why people running null say that Tizen makes it a toy and null makes their watch a real tool, but for me not having to waste time getting my smart watch setup was important. Out of the box, it's everything I need without having to waste too much time troubleshooting.
novadaemon said:
Tizen is the way to go if you are using a non-Samsung phone and want to use the watch for what it was meant to be. So much more works out of the box and many of null's features were more of a novelty.
Playing roms on your watch isnt very viable due to the screen and battery life.
Browsing the internet on a watch is cool for a few minutes
Tizen allows notifications to work out of the box, and they work with almost everything. By default, this didn't work in null.
Tizen allows the "find my phone" feature to work. This also didn't work in null on my phone
Tizen gives the watch a mini version of the exercise app. Null doesn't have this, but you can sideload other apps.
Tizen gives the phone a standalone music player that can also play through bluetooth headphones. Null didn't do that for me.
Tizen also supports sleep tracking.
The battery life in Tizen is much better.
The Tizen upgrade is more than just an improvement in battery life.
The only thing I miss from the android experience is the unlocked kernel that allowed me to go from 800mhz single core to 1.6ghz dual core, the 15 second time limit for video being raised to 60 second and the mod that allows offline voice commands to work. Using null for much else lead to a major drain in battery life that caused me to leave my gear at home more often than not. With the Tizen upgrade the gear is now seriously being used as a tool rather than a toy to tinker with.
Of course, I totally understand why people running null say that Tizen makes it a toy and null makes their watch a real tool, but for me not having to waste time getting my smart watch setup was important. Out of the box, it's everything I need without having to waste too much time troubleshooting.
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What is the app it uses to connect to the phone. Or I mean what app installs on the phone to talk to the watch.
I only use for what I want notifications.
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I would go tizen if I can have 60 second recoding. I use it quite often. The root hack version isn't good enough for me. So for now null is better for me. I also like being to Bluetooth files to my gear with null.
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Curious
I just got my Gear a week ago and have been loving it running Null. I am curious about Tizen but was wondering if anyone is working on anything with it yet? e.g. Custom ROM's, etc. I've also heard through the rumor mills that Tizen may offer a solution for devices running AOSP ROM's? I am currently running infmaous ROM on my Note 3, but want to get back to an AOSP like CM11.
Thanks
Tizen Upgrade
Hi,
How do I upgrade from stock to Tizen?
Is it available in Australia yet?
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Hi,
How do I upgrade from stock to Tizen?
Is it available in Australia yet?
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I assume you have Gear 1 since you don't have Tizen stock loaded?
@radekklamzynski7 has this up on XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767465
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After messing arround with Tizen for a while I am really sick of it.
I am not able to make all the features work on a non Samsung phone.
When I get one thing running, something else is broken. I have reinstalled everything for at least 5-7 times.
- Sometimes I am able to install apps from Galaxy store, sometimes not
- After a while notification (which is the only real usefull feature of the watch) crashes after receiving the first notification until I reboot or reinstall the phone
- There is no screen which shows notifications on the watch face
- All calls are automatically routed to the phone first: My phone is ringing and I start running arround and search for the watch to be able to pick up the phone
I am thinking of selling the watch on Ebay.
Or probably I'll play arround with Null first, to get rid of those crappy Samsung apps at least.
If I am lucky somebody is making an Android Wear port in the meantime.
novadaemon said:
Tizen is the way to go if you are using a non-Samsung phone and want to use the watch for what it was meant to be. So much more works out of the box and many of null's features were more of a novelty.
Playing roms on your watch isnt very viable due to the screen and battery life.
Browsing the internet on a watch is cool for a few minutes
Tizen allows notifications to work out of the box, and they work with almost everything. By default, this didn't work in null.
Tizen allows the "find my phone" feature to work. This also didn't work in null on my phone
Tizen gives the watch a mini version of the exercise app. Null doesn't have this, but you can sideload other apps.
Tizen gives the phone a standalone music player that can also play through bluetooth headphones. Null didn't do that for me.
Tizen also supports sleep tracking.
The battery life in Tizen is much better.
The Tizen upgrade is more than just an improvement in battery life.
The only thing I miss from the android experience is the unlocked kernel that allowed me to go from 800mhz single core to 1.6ghz dual core, the 15 second time limit for video being raised to 60 second and the mod that allows offline voice commands to work. Using null for much else lead to a major drain in battery life that caused me to leave my gear at home more often than not. With the Tizen upgrade the gear is now seriously being used as a tool rather than a toy to tinker with.
Of course, I totally understand why people running null say that Tizen makes it a toy and null makes their watch a real tool, but for me not having to waste time getting my smart watch setup was important. Out of the box, it's everything I need without having to waste too much time troubleshooting.
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Sorry may be a stupid question, but I flashed my S4 i9505 to GPE 4.4.4. How do i make it work with my Gear 1 which is now tizen?
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Sorry may be a stupid question, but I flashed my S4 i9505 to GPE 4.4.4. How do i make it work with my Gear 1 which is now tizen?
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Go back to android on your gear 1. Lol. I couldn't tizen to play nice with anything but Samsung ROM with gear software.
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Go back to android on your gear 1. Lol. I couldn't tizen to play nice with anything but Samsung ROM with gear software.
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Thank you. I was already considering it.
Hi guys,
i'm just interested in how do you guys use your gear and which features you guys miss. i would suggest that all of you put it in a Format like i'll Show you. So it's easier for devs and maybe Samsung to overview this thread statistically. Maybe some of them will get inspired. who knows....
(sorry for the formatting of the text. but i have to use Internet Explorer and it automatically fixes it in a bad way. but i do not really care...sorry about that. )
Reason why i bought my Galaxy Gear
I thought my note 3 is too big for pulling it out that often just to know which time it is. Plus the uneccessary times when nothing important beeped like a new thread or a uploaded YouTube video. I thought it would be handy to have again a good looking watch for using my phone less.
Cause we all know how often we pull it out to check the time and begin to senseless checking here, replying there...For me this worked. Plus i thought it would be pure awesomeness to control music with this.
How do your needs changed or which features you began to miss when you had it quite a time?
-Seeing and changing wifi state, mobile data and maybe more but that 2 are most important to me.
-Broswing through the Music library of the currently used musicplayer. Missing this one was the most dissapointing thing to me.
-I had moments where it would have been very good when i could have used the camera a a silent security camera without time limitations and keeping the Screen black. So the thief won't recognize that he got on tape. This would be good to for uneccessary Police violence too.
- i would like to read all incoming Messages with a Speed Reader app like spritz.
-General Spritz like speedreading Integration
-Better capability of short replys from the gear to Facebook Messenger and apps like that.
-Ofcourse Google Now Integration instead of useless S-Voice...
- Clockfonts! MOAR JUST MOAAARRR or direct font using Integration...oooor zooper on tizen....xD
Android or Tizen?
After using Tizen a few days i say i am surpised about Tizen. Ofcourse there are no apps not even a calculator. But the System is more responsive and the Batterylife actually is much better for my usage. On Saturday at 17:30 o'clock it was charged to 100% now it's at 15...Before it lasts a day. Batterylife is more than tripled for me. Plus the voice recognition for taking photos is there. I missed that.
I am hoping that it will be possible to convert android apps for tizen and that it will last not that long till this day Comes. Cause the batterylife and the better response of the system are good arguments to me for having Tizen on a featurewatch like this. Yes you read right. For me this is a Feature watch. It isn't smart at all imo.
But as soon as i am familiar with Tasker i am instantly back on Android at this state to workout the missing stuff... Android APK compatibility is a huge Thing for pushing Tizens usability an acceptance Forward imo.
I am a Developer an my thoughts About "Android or Tizen" are:
Especially your guys opinion is interesting to me.
I am a Developer and got inspired to (currently) work(ing) on
Do not Forget to mention if it is for Tizen or Android if it isn't already obvious.
Would you buy it again or do you regret?
I would buy it again. Cause in first place it was what i expected. I do not really Need 2 Smartphones i only want to do not pull out my phone so often a day. But not browsing through Music is a pain in the ass to me...i paid 200 Bucks. i think this was a ok Price. Look around what normal watches can you can pay much much for for just seeing the time. If the battery wasnt that small it is totally OK to me.
Now it's your turn ladies guys and devs.
If you do not want to answer all of that just take the ones you want and make it fat.
sorry for my english
cheers
i purchased mine after the gear two came out, specifically because i prefer android, and i was excited to try out the null rom - i installed null rom within hours of getting it in the mail. i initially had CARBONROM (aosp based) running on my s3, and i had to jump through some hoops to get it to work at all, even with a custom rom on it, and it spurred me to switch back to touchwiz (i also got a note 8.0 around the same time).
initially i just played with it all day, like killing it immediately (there's a good amount of novelty to having a fully functional computer on your wrist), then i started just using it as it was meant to be used, to check notifications and what not. ive just managed to get offline voice recognition working, as well as the google now launcher, and autovoice with google search api - i've only just gotten into tasker because, although i didn't find it too useful for just a phone, for the phone/gear combo i think a lot of cool stuff is possible.
so yeah, in a nutshell, android all day. with regular use, my battery lasts plenty long - i don't understand why anyone has a problem with one day, i have to plug all my other stuff in at night anyways, and i have outlets, chargers and cables to spare, so... i just plug it in at night. a day is fine.
I have a Galaxy Gear (1st gen) and it's still on Android.
Curious if I should stay on Android or move to the Tizen update?
I don't really plan to do much tinkering or hacking, but don't see much on rolling it back to Android if I don't like Tizen so thought I'd ask first.
TIA!
~poz
I updated mine and think its much better. I dont tinker much with the watch (i do with my phone) and generally just use the watch for its intended purpose.
Ive seen a thread with a working rollback to android. Although i think it takes abit of luck to make it work. Dont plan on rolling back though as i dont see the need.
I would suggest the update but thats just my opinion
Like maskerwsk said. If you're not tinkering with it then I think Tizen is the way to go. I upgraded shortly after I got mine. The battery life is better. I hear the performance is better but I can't vouch for that, I didn't play with android enough. The app support is much better and the launcher is visually more appealing, if that sort of thing is important to you. I like to check out the available stock options and then I cant resist the urge to mess with it. I have successfully downgraded back to android with out to much trouble. I have a custom recovery installed. The next step is to get Null loaded on it. If you intend to use it for it's intended purpose then you probably wont regret upgrading to Tizen.
Going back to android is easy, follow the thread and it's fine. I used tizen for the most part and everything worked fine for me using it on an lg g3 however I wasn't able to get gear manager working when I updated to lollipop on my g3 so back to null for me.
Null, when you set the cpu up properly easily last a full day, could probably get 2 days out of it if I don't play with it a lot. It's really a toss up. Try both and see what fits you better, or if non Samsung and lollipop, right now your only real option is android and with that no reason not to run null.
What's the video recording time limit on Tizen?
I get 3 days of battery on my Gear now because it's only for notification and occasional camera use.
Performance is much better than Android. And no side loading either!
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What's the video recording time limit on Tizen?
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15 seconds.
I love to tinker so it's null all the way for me! I look at tizen and I think no: zooper, tasker, popup widget, gmd gesture control etc etc etc it's my device and I enjoy seeing how far I can push it and also workaround things that frustrate me like not being able to reply to a notification on whatsapp. But it's each to their own. I hope you enjoy your device whatever path you choose to take
It's a much better device on Tizen, with one critical exception, at least for me: the battery drain is horrible. On Android, I could still be in the low 90% range at the end of the day. On Tizen, it drains at an average rate of 7% an hour. Worse if I'm really active with it (video recording, etc.). It died mid-afternoon last week. I've reset the Gear and reinstalled Gear Manager, but no joy. I'd go back to Android but I like Tizen a lot more -- save for the drain.
Edit: This fix -- downgrading to the previous version of Gear Manager -- seems to have fixed the battery issue for me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-gear/help/battery-dying-12-hours-t2887770.
Good morning (or evening according to timezones)
I have recently purchased a new Note8. Even though the performance is mostly great, I sometimes get lag/stutters and the battery is not that great ( I can get about 3h SOT), but if I don't have my charger with me, there's no chance to get home with the phone still on.
My question is if it is still worth it to root the phone and put a custom Rom on it. I have looked through the various custom rom threads and I am tempted to flash one.
However, my main concern is the banking applications (saw that some don't work anymore after rooting).
At the moment I am on the latest official rom (with the october security patch). I mention that I have no warranty (phone bought from other country), so that shouldn't be an issue.
Any thought please? I have been missing from the android scene for a long time, went IOS there for a while, so I am not sure how to proceed.
Thank you in advance to anyone kind enough to read all this
Bogdan
My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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Thank you for your reply. I also use the device maintenance and reboot it occasionally, but battery life seems to he a hit and miss for me. I do keep the phone at max resolution and with a lot of sync on, but what would be the point of having a powerful device if we don't use it
I am also a bit surprised as to the low number of custom roms available. Not complaining or anything, but looking back to my old note 2 experience, there was far more enthusiasm at that time. Though android did get better since then
No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting
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No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting
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Thank you. I'll probably leave the OS alone for now
usually i always end up not rooting for the first 4-6 months due to warranty stuff.
But the moment i rooted, i've gained at least a 20-25% increase in battery life with the usual control one can have.
If it's for cosmetics, dont need root anymore for that. not much on exposed, things like Good Lock make it stay away from root edits.
I personally root for a few apps that i use, which some of them have better features when on root. and also for debloating.
Unless you are a developer or a tech hobbyist, I don't see the point in rooting current android devices as they work perfectly fine straight out the box.
Well, when rooting you gain total control, and can run some nice and useful apps that require root, I like viper4A, but as you pointed out, some apps do not run on rooted devices, banking and streaming apps among others, and of course, there is the one very important component that you loose for ever, secure folder
Hi all.
Have been modding and playing around with Note 4 and the emmc fault is a bi*ch. If it works, you never know when the damn thing will stop functioning. And the phone itself is always a bit buggy with custom roms. I noticed that several people here compare it to Note 3 and mean that Note 3 overall has certain advantages, easier to modd, less buggy, and of course, is not plagued with emmc fault. Don't get me wrong, i have several units and i really like the damn thing.
So i would like to ask all you who actually HAVE experience of both, write here a line or two, and compare those two. Which one is actually more thankfull for modding? N4 being of course newer, but does it make that big of a dirfference?
Hi, i don't have an note 3, i have and use a note 4, very happy with the phone running android 6.01 heavy customized and with the best kernel (ram Kernel v8.1 never had any issues with emmc or any other for that matter, it runs very smooth with no problems, battery last for a week, standby 0.4% per hour.
Ok. Difficult to make comparison then since you have no experience with Note 3, but thanx anyway.
Sounds good tho. May I ask then how your setup looks like, since having a battery last for a week is really an achievment?
System:
I Installed stock PHN DRI2 Build with ram Kernel v8.1 removed a lot of user apps that i don't need and also a lot of system apps that drain your battery, i use magisk for root and have two modules in use GPU Turbo Boost (not sure if this does anything but i leave it anyway installed) and Swap Torpedo (no swap file that saves battery) i use for tweaks the L Speed app and some build.prop tweaks most of them are from goldeneye rom.
Apps:
I use Ungoogled Chromium, this browser is memory and battery friendly as it does not call home all the time and i don't use social media apps as they are all battery hogs, i have about 50 apps installed and i use afwall for firewall and as email i use exchange push email with stock email client.
I tried almost every rom available for the note 4 910F but all suck in battery or the pen is not working, with a lot of trial and error in debloating the rom i stick with the one i have now, i am running it for 3 years and i am a happy camper. I love this phone with the pen the screen size and the exchangeable battery, it runs for a week with one charge 7 days with 3 hours and 43 minutes screen on, the onscreen time (backlight slider at 1/3 and dark color wallpaper) is about 7 hours in one go and it uses 0.4 battery per hour in standby (measured with GSam Battery Monitor since 1 year). I had newer phone they are all made of glass, no battery exchange and no earphone connector. Long story short, great phone . If you like to have the build.prop tweaks i can give them to you. The L speed app you can download from XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/l-speed.6156/ .
Cheers
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System:
I Installed stock PHN DRI2 Build with ram Kernel v8.1 removed a lot of user apps that i don't need and also a lot of system apps that drain your battery, i use magisk for root and have two modules in use GPU Turbo Boost (not sure if this does anything but i leave it anyway installed) and Swap Torpedo (no swap file that saves battery) i use for tweaks the L Speed app and some build.prop tweaks most of them are from goldeneye rom.
Apps:
I use Ungoogled Chromium, this browser is memory and battery friendly as it does not call home all the time and i don't use social media apps as they are all battery hogs, i have about 50 apps installed and i use afwall for firewall and as email i use exchange push email with stock email client.
I tried almost every rom available for the note 4 910F but all suck in battery or the pen is not working, with a lot of trial and error in debloating the rom i stick with the one i have now, i am running it for 3 years and i am a happy camper. I love this phone with the pen the screen size and the exchangeable battery, it runs for a week with one charge 7 days with 3 hours and 43 minutes screen on, the onscreen time (backlight slider at 1/3 and dark color wallpaper) is about 7 hours in one go and it uses 0.4 battery per hour in standby (measured with GSam Battery Monitor since 1 year). I had newer phone they are all made of glass, no battery exchange and no earphone connector. Long story short, great phone . If you like to have the build.prop tweaks i can give them to you. The L speed app you can download from XDA https://forum.xda-developers.com/f/l-speed.6156/ .
Cheers
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Thank you very much for the offer, but build props are way over my experience level, i think.
Btw, love the phone for the same reason as you do.
Besides, i am quite happy customer also, running @AnonVendetta s version of really bareboned stock 6.01. No Google, microG instead. No root. Not many apps. I probably could get a week out of a battery also with light use that i usually do. But i use Signal, and i just yesterday discovered that the damn thing just chugs battery like mad if you don't have Play Service installed. So with it installed i get at best a days use, with very light using of the phone.
I am currently rocking a Note 3 on Sprint and running Android 10 (Superior OS) and works great. All the convencience of Android with my removable battery and IR blaster (yes I use it for multiple TV's in multiple buildings I control). I use the S-Pen on Squid to take notes and jot down info and even mark up pictures so don't need Air Command. I sync with my FitBit Versa and run multiple smart home devices from the phone (including my whole home entertainment with the PEEL app).
The only 'complaint' I have is the bluetooth. There was a major problem past Android 7 of geting the thing to work. It does now. Voice and music work good. But occassionally it will just drop the device it connects to. I will re esablsih about 10 seconds later but still, that loses the lock on my Jeep radio and therefore keeps allowing the screen to lock. This is a minor annoyance but does need to be mentioned.
I JUST bought a Note 4 so thinking of loading LOS 17 on it and see how it goes. However I see most people here just kept stock Marshmellow. I dunno aobut that... isnt the UI buggy and limiting?
I look forward to any advice I can get!
Hi Dave,
I also use the IR remote for all my home appliance (dvbviewer TV on my pc, living room and bedroom tv and Bose audio system, i use the ir plus app great remote control app and it still gets updates, about the roms available for the note 4 i have the snapdragon version and i have tried all roms but i stay on stock 6.01 the MM version is not buggy at all, it never have problems, hangs crashes or reboots, i use the stock launcher smooth and fast, the UI interface is not important, the apps i use are all in dark mode, for me it's important i can use it the way i like it and it does. NOTE 4 still rocks like a champ with all the advantage it has. If this one breaks i will look for a other note 4, no newer phone for me. I dont know what version you have but try some rome you will see you will go back to 6.01 mm, its rock solid and battery friendly. Bluetooth on the note 4 sucks for battery use but does not crash or breaks anything, i have a gear fit2 pro but i dont connect it with the phone all the time just to sync .
Cheers
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I am currently rocking a Note 3 on Sprint and running Android 10 (Superior OS) and works great. All the convencience of Android with my removable battery and IR blaster (yes I use it for multiple TV's in multiple buildings I control). I use the S-Pen on Squid to take notes and jot down info and even mark up pictures so don't need Air Command. I sync with my FitBit Versa and run multiple smart home devices from the phone (including my whole home entertainment with the PEEL app).
The only 'complaint' I have is the bluetooth. There was a major problem past Android 7 of geting the thing to work. It does now. Voice and music work good. But occassionally it will just drop the device it connects to. I will re esablsih about 10 seconds later but still, that loses the lock on my Jeep radio and therefore keeps allowing the screen to lock. This is a minor annoyance but does need to be mentioned.
I JUST bought a Note 4 so thinking of loading LOS 17 on it and see how it goes. However I see most people here just kept stock Marshmellow. I dunno aobut that... isnt the UI buggy and limiting?
I look forward to any advice I can get!
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For me LOS17 was a no go because of the SIM issue and lack of encryption. I saw other having other issues. If i were you and needed something newer than marshmallow, then i would try LOS16. I found that one to be very stable, no issues so far for my use. Will perhaps migrate to that one with my daily driver in a while, when stock starts failing.
As for stock 6.0.1, not sure where you heard it was buggy?! I read that marshmallow was if not the least buggy Android OS ever and that is also my experience, at least on Note 4. I totally agree with @Qosmio-. It is the most rock solid rom i have ever had on a device. NEVER had any bugs, issues or anything. Battery friendly. I find launcher smooth, and run UI in 'easy mode', which i find the most appealing, colorwise and all. The perfect OS basically, if there ever was one. I have heard people starting to find apps that are no longer supported, but all apps that are important to me still work.
but wait - you use PEEL app as remote?
Wasn't that completely hidious advertisment-prone bloatware that was utterly unpleasant to use?
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but wait - you use PEEL app as remote?
Wasn't that completely hidious advertisment-prone bloatware that was utterly unpleasant to use?
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I only meant 'buggy' as outdated and unable to use the full Google Assistant features etc... Thats why I moved to newer ROMS Not as smooth and primitive features. I should try myself before I speak the negative about it!
So let's talk about PEEL.
The magic is to use this with Titanium Backup. I must say, PEEL can be set up to use and manage "scenarios" (Home, Work, Friend's House etc). If you set it up..
1.go in and click to NOT auto detect WiFi connections
2.disable advertising and lock screen and persistant notifications for 30 days.
3. Set up a Custom Remote Scenario
4. Create a Widget for the App to default on Custom Remote
3. Do a TB of the app!
I have found, on the newer ROM's it stays Ad Free.. but if it gets weird to annoying just do a TB restore "data only" and then you are golden!
Ive tried lots of other 3rd party apps but I keep going back to PEEL. It stays ad free and as a remote (not as a channel guide) it works exremely well, is desined well and functions well.
Hit me up if you want more specifics! Maybe I should start a 'how to' thread..
Dave
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i stay on stock 6.01 the MM version is not buggy at all, it never have problems
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Arent you worried about Security Updates?
Unidave199 said:
Arent you worried about Security Updates?
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No not at all, i protect my use of internet at home and phone ( i am system engineer for 35 years so i know what i can and can't do), if you look what still need to be patched for android Exploits vulnerability-list , every new or old version of android user is @ risk. When connected with my phone to internet via my provider it will change the phones ip address every 15 minutes, i use a firewall (afwall) on my phone and disabled ipv6, i am connected to my home with openvpn to pfsense firewall for internet access and i use my own MS exchange mail server and dns server resolver with ad and privacy telemetry filter with pfblocker. There are things you don't do with old version of android and that is visite websites that are shady, porn websites and browse without a strong ad blocker or privacy filter.
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System:
I Installed stock PHN DRI2 Build with ram Kernel v8.1
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So I did it! I made the jump. I am using the Q15 Plus Tidbits VB3 Rom. And udated firmware. Do you have a link to the ROM you are using?
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So I did it! I made the jump. I am using the Q15 Plus Tidbits VB3 Rom. And udated firmware. Do you have a link to the ROM you are using?
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Wel since 2 weeks some government (tax/digi id ect) apps we use in nl does not support android 6 anymore and i use them often so i had to jump to android 10 and using this rom Crdroid
If you like to try don't download from first page but from here Mega
I use it for a week now (with some tweaks) and this is the only android 10 rom that works and looks great, battery is not as good as with android 6 but i have to accept that, i am not ready yet to dump the note 4.
Cheers
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Wel since 2 weeks some government (tax/digi id ect) apps we use in nl does not support android 6 anymore and i use them often so i had to jump to android 10 and using this rom Crdroid
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I had tried using some Liniage Versions but on the Sprint Variant they woulnt make phone calls or text so I had to ditch them. I am downloading now so will give it a flash and see! Thank you for the heads up!
Dave
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Ok.. loaded up the Crdroid ROM. Working well, but with my SM 910P I am having bluetooth problems keeping sync with my Fitbit, Lack of LTE (but works on 3G) and a few other bugs but am managing. What carrier are you with? I would appreciate any tweeks you have found to help out.
Dave
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I had tried using some Liniage Versions but on the Sprint Variant they woulnt make phone calls or text so I had to ditch them. I am downloading now so will give it a flash and see! Thank you for the heads up!
Dave
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Ok.. loaded up the Crdroid ROM. Working well, but with my SM 910P I am having bluetooth problems keeping sync with my Fitbit, Lack of LTE (but works on 3G) and a few other bugs but am managing. What carrier are you with? I would appreciate any tweeks you have found to help out.
Dave
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Hi Dave,
Sorry for the late reply, i just read your post in the cdroid section, i am with simpel carrier i dont have any problems using LTE and have no problem with sms (i dont use mms) , the only tweaks is with the L speed app and kernel auditor to lower the idle frequentie of the GPU and set it to 166 instead of 240 to save battery. My gear fit2 pro on bluetooth works fine to so i am a happy camper. What you could try is other modems from other stock roms if you did not try that already maybe that helps with you LTE problem.
Cheers
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Hi Dave,
Sorry for the late reply, i just read your post in the cdroid section, i am with simpel carrier i dont have any problems using LTE and have no problem with sms (i dont use mms) , the only tweaks is with the L speed app and kernel auditor to lower the idle frequentie of the GPU and set it to 166 instead of 240 to save battery. My gear fit2 pro on bluetooth works fine to so i am a happy camper. What you could try is other modems from other stock roms if you did not try that already maybe that helps with you LTE problem.
Cheers
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Sorry for all the bouncing around in the forums. Trying to play Note 4 catchup...
Well that is an interesting thought. As a CDMA carrier customer (Sprint) I feel I am locked into my own island.
Can I just do a stock modem restore in TWRP onto my CRDroid ROM ? I am not at all sure why my Bluetooth is having such a problem with my Versa 2.. Maybe it is the versa problem?
Anyways, I can see a bit where the Note 4 gets laggy with camera use and running a few other commands at once. I know this is older but my Note 3 did not seem to hesatate this much. I like the idea of considering lowering my GPU.
Let me know if you have any other thoughts?
Dave
Np Dave there is so much information to take in that i can't blame you when bouncing aroubnd in the forum , You can and must make a backup with twrp of your modem in use and then fiddle around with different versions, its very easy to rip modems with 7zip from different original roms and zip (7zip) them to flash it with twrp. As for bluetooth it can be a pain in the ass with custom roms especially with asop roms, do some searches in the forum maybe someone has the same issue as you have.
Cheers
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. As for bluetooth it can be a pain in the ass with custom roms especially with asop roms, do some searches in the forum maybe someone has the same issue as you have.
Cheers
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I found a forum that says to go into the application and wipe data and cache and then I went into TWRP and wiped ART/Cache. That seems to help with the 'Bluetooth Keeps Stopping" error. I have tried to load several other ROM's but they wont install due to Error 7 codes. I supsect becuase I updated to the Q15 version and these older ROMS arent being updated. So I will keep trying to nurse the CrDroid 10 version and see if it can be improved..
I'm not an expert but for me.. note 3 is more stabLe than note 4 when it comes to custom rom. Easier to mod, and Less buggy. ( thanks to aLL deveLopers at kay Lodi @jprimero15 )
TiLL now stiLL Looking for a rom that can fit note 4 for daiLy usage.
Thanks
I am using Emotion Kernel, and Xposed. I will just to Android 12 at the moment it will be available.
I never used the Note 3, but i wonder is it faster than the Note 4 in daily usage. The Note 4 Snapdragon CPU is a frying pan and it can strongly reduce its performance when it gets hot.
My phone will in consequence randomly reboot, but i have a simple script that detects overheating and lower the CPU freq (works good)
Is the Note 3 quick and doesn't overheat when browsing internet?