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Galaxy Gear, and why I'm selling after five days.

I've been using the Gear with a Note 3, running on 4.3 MJ6 firmware.
I've uninstalled tons of bloat of my phone. I don't use the stock email program, I use the apk from the nexus 5 which works great.
Here's my problems with the Gear.
Weather would not work. That's fine, I can live without that.
I could not play multimedia audio through the watch, again fine, I can live without that.
The killer problem for me appears to be the multiple notifications. I've only got one email account set up to produce notifications. When an email arrives to this account, the notification is sent to the watch multiple times.
I've tried various Gear Manager 1.6 APK's in my quest to fix this basic but serious fault including the one directly from Samsung Apps. I've also tried the 1.7 version downloaded from the thread here. It seems as though the only "fix" is having no lock screen security at all and dismissing the notification via "view on phone". Obviously this is unacceptable to me.
I also use a Sony SBH52 Bluetooth handset, This manages to handle it correctly.
If anyone has a fix for this, please let me know, otherwise it's on eBay at a very low start price.

There's no problem with playing audio on mine.
Weather works too.
Gmail and other 3rd party notifications all work.
Of all the phones you could have had, you have the best one for this watch. Somehow thru indiscriminate debloating, you've managed to turn it into an unsupported phone like nexus.

klau1 said:
There's no problem with playing audio on mine.
Weather works too.
Gmail and other 3rd party notifications all work.
Of all the phones you could have had, you have the best one for this watch. Somehow thru indiscriminate debloating, you've managed to turn it into an unsupported phone like nexus.
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The debloating is not an issue. Like I said, I can live without weather,and it playing media. All I want is one notification per email, not 3, 4 or 7.
My Sony SBH52 can manage that, regardless of my debloating.

For sure all the notifications including gmail works. And I don't get duplicated notifications. If anything, it may miss one or two because the service on the phone stopped sending them.
Does your svoice work from the gear?
It's great for sending sms.
Also, does your lock screen (pin, password, pattern, etc) autolock when the gear is near?
You could be missing some of the dependencies required for Gear Manager to function properly.
There's a reason why installing Gear Manager on phones other than Samsung's phones, don't work...
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Samsung's software is full of dependencies, it's written such that, it's either functions their way or the highway.

Well if you decide to sell let me know
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I use the Gear with a Platronics Voyager Legend headset and a SGN3 with a Zerolemon 10000mah battery and case.
So far I have been very happy with the way the phablet, watch and headset seamlessly link - no issues whatsoever. My only gripe is with Gmail and the inability to block individuals from email you.
In the past I have had HTC devices and within a matter of a few months I have rooted and debloated these devices installing a thin ROM for speed and battery life. I have so far decided not to root and debloat the SGN3 - firstly my main reason for doing so is the battery life is no longer an issue with the Zerolemon and even with the samsung battery it's not bad at all. Secondly, this is the first Samsung phone I have had and so far I have no issues with the software, yes the SGN3 carries a lot of superfluous stuff but just like my Alienware Laptop, which also carries a load of bloat and rubbish I don't use, its not an issue due to the relative power of the phone compared to the current stock of apps. I can see a point in a couple of years when I may well root and debloat but only when apps reach such a greedy level that new hardware is beckoning. as said above, the interconnectivoty of Samsung stock software means that for all to work properly, removing one part, like svoice for instance, can have a huge impact on the usefulness and reliability of things like headsets and gears. Personal choice I suppose but IIWU I would reinstall the stock rom and give it another chance.. It's an expensive bit of kit not to get the full functionality out of when, unless you are using the SGN3 to remotely control a nuclear reactor, chopping and modding the phone drastically is likely to result in a package that won't give you decent return on investment. Just an observation, it's personal choice at the end of the day.

scooters29 said:
I use the Gear with a Platronics Voyager Legend headset and a SGN3 with a Zerolemon 10000mah battery and case.
So far I have been very happy with the way the phablet, watch and headset seamlessly link - no issues whatsoever. My only gripe is with Gmail and the inability to block individuals from email you.
In the past I have had HTC devices and within a matter of a few months I have rooted and debloated these devices installing a thin ROM for speed and battery life. I have so far decided not to root and debloat the SGN3 - firstly my main reason for doing so is the battery life is no longer an issue with the Zerolemon and even with the samsung battery it's not bad at all. Secondly, this is the first Samsung phone I have had and so far I have no issues with the software, yes the SGN3 carries a lot of superfluous stuff but just like my Alienware Laptop, which also carries a load of bloat and rubbish I don't use, its not an issue due to the relative power of the phone compared to the current stock of apps. I can see a point in a couple of years when I may well root and debloat but only when apps reach such a greedy level that new hardware is beckoning. as said above, the interconnectivoty of Samsung stock software means that for all to work properly, removing one part, like svoice for instance, can have a huge impact on the usefulness and reliability of things like headsets and gears. Personal choice I suppose but IIWU I would reinstall the stock rom and give it another chance.. It's an expensive bit of kit not to get the full functionality out of when, unless you are using the SGN3 to remotely control a nuclear reactor, chopping and modding the phone drastically is likely to result in a package that won't give you decent return on investment. Just an observation, it's personal choice at the end of the day.
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Pretty much the same setup as you plus i run a chromebook and chromecast. I find the headset, watch, chromecast and handset work seamlessly together. I recently got the SGN3 and decided to keep stock on it after my S4 which has had every rom on (which i finished with 4.4.2 kitkat google stock rom).
I can pause and skip tracks that are being casted from my phone, on my watch, that alone makes me happy.
Im actually quite enjoying the stock samsung experience. There are a few minor annoyances, but that is mainly due to licencing (netflix, tap and pay etc)

For blocking individuals from emailing you, you can set up a filter in the Gmail web app on your computer. If you just want to delete their messages, you can set them to delete automatically. If you just don't want to see their emails right away, you can set them to 'skip inbox' and go to a label (kind of like a folder) and just read it when you have time.
scooters29 said:
I use the Gear with a Platronics Voyager Legend headset and a SGN3 with a Zerolemon 10000mah battery and case.
So far I have been very happy with the way the phablet, watch and headset seamlessly link - no issues whatsoever. My only gripe is with Gmail and the inability to block individuals from email you.
In the past I have had HTC devices and within a matter of a few months I have rooted and debloated these devices installing a thin ROM for speed and battery life. I have so far decided not to root and debloat the SGN3 - firstly my main reason for doing so is the battery life is no longer an issue with the Zerolemon and even with the samsung battery it's not bad at all. Secondly, this is the first Samsung phone I have had and so far I have no issues with the software, yes the SGN3 carries a lot of superfluous stuff but just like my Alienware Laptop, which also carries a load of bloat and rubbish I don't use, its not an issue due to the relative power of the phone compared to the current stock of apps. I can see a point in a couple of years when I may well root and debloat but only when apps reach such a greedy level that new hardware is beckoning. as said above, the interconnectivoty of Samsung stock software means that for all to work properly, removing one part, like svoice for instance, can have a huge impact on the usefulness and reliability of things like headsets and gears. Personal choice I suppose but IIWU I would reinstall the stock rom and give it another chance.. It's an expensive bit of kit not to get the full functionality out of when, unless you are using the SGN3 to remotely control a nuclear reactor, chopping and modding the phone drastically is likely to result in a package that won't give you decent return on investment. Just an observation, it's personal choice at the end of the day.
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Install Null or upgrade to Tizen?

Ok Samsung released an update for the original Gear the day i bought the thing, now i don't know what to do, should i install a Custom ROM such as Null or upgrade to Tizen?

Null for me! my automation home And 100000 possibility only with android!
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Just flip a coin!
Heads is Null.
Tails is Tizen.

Root and install null and play with it for a while until the Tizen offering becomes more pallatable (ie more native apps, and perhaps custom roms). If youget it to do the things you need in a smartwatch and the battery life is sufficient then there is no reason to "upgrade"
If you start to feel that the promise of having access to thousands of android apps is somewhat overated and largely impractical on the gear's form factor (as I did), or you feel that support is/will be slowly being withdrawn on native apps, or that you may need the extra efficiency with the battery life. Then you can always explore Tizen..Just beware that, at present, there is no viable way back.
I was happy to have had the ability to experiment with Null and truly appreciate Fomey's work. But I believe that the future ( for the Gear anyway) lies with Tizen..Hopefully Fomey will come on board and dev for us on the "dark side"

crutzulee said:
Root and install null and play with it for a while until the Tizen offering becomes more pallatable (ie more native apps, and perhaps custom roms). If youget it to do the things you need in a smartwatch and the battery life is sufficient then there is no reason to "upgrade"
If you start to feel that the promise of having access to thousands of android apps is somewhat overated and largely impractical on the gear's form factor (as I did), or you feel that support is/will be slowly being withdrawn on native apps, or that you may need the extra efficiency with the battery life. Then you can always explore Tizen..Just beware that, at present, there is no viable way back.
I was happy to have had the ability to experiment with Null and truly appreciate Fomey's work. But I believe that the future ( for the Gear anyway) lies with Tizen..Hopefully Fomey will come on board and dev for us on the "dark side"
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I totally agree
I used stock android
I used null rom
Im now on tizen
I preferred stock to null ,but appreciate what null had to offer
I prefer tizen over them all

This is honestly really interesting for me to read. I just got my Gear in the mail and when i get home it will be the 1st time i have got to mess with one. Just gonna try it out for a little while as is before i decide. Came with Android and im curious about Tizen. Hmm..

I'm enjoying learning about Android to much to swap to tizen at the moment. So far the stock experience of Android or tizen on the gear seems to be very similar. The only major difference so far is that lots of people are reporting better battery life on tizen. However app selection on tizen seems limited. I've really enjoyed playing with different third party apps whilst running null. At the moment, for me, tizen would take more than it gives from my user experience. If that changes somewhere down the line I can always move to tizen. However if I switch to tizen there is currently no way to switch back if I miss the current features I'm using with third party apps on null.

Tizen is for those who want a smartwatch with built in apps and don't want to 'play' with it. I think stock experience is terrible, and I would return the watch if i could not put Null rom on it.
Null is the actual upgrade, Tizen is a downgrade.

Tizen is the way to go if you are using a non-Samsung phone and want to use the watch for what it was meant to be. So much more works out of the box and many of null's features were more of a novelty.
Playing roms on your watch isnt very viable due to the screen and battery life.
Browsing the internet on a watch is cool for a few minutes
Tizen allows notifications to work out of the box, and they work with almost everything. By default, this didn't work in null.
Tizen allows the "find my phone" feature to work. This also didn't work in null on my phone
Tizen gives the watch a mini version of the exercise app. Null doesn't have this, but you can sideload other apps.
Tizen gives the phone a standalone music player that can also play through bluetooth headphones. Null didn't do that for me.
Tizen also supports sleep tracking.
The battery life in Tizen is much better.
The Tizen upgrade is more than just an improvement in battery life.
The only thing I miss from the android experience is the unlocked kernel that allowed me to go from 800mhz single core to 1.6ghz dual core, the 15 second time limit for video being raised to 60 second and the mod that allows offline voice commands to work. Using null for much else lead to a major drain in battery life that caused me to leave my gear at home more often than not. With the Tizen upgrade the gear is now seriously being used as a tool rather than a toy to tinker with.
Of course, I totally understand why people running null say that Tizen makes it a toy and null makes their watch a real tool, but for me not having to waste time getting my smart watch setup was important. Out of the box, it's everything I need without having to waste too much time troubleshooting.

novadaemon said:
Tizen is the way to go if you are using a non-Samsung phone and want to use the watch for what it was meant to be. So much more works out of the box and many of null's features were more of a novelty.
Playing roms on your watch isnt very viable due to the screen and battery life.
Browsing the internet on a watch is cool for a few minutes
Tizen allows notifications to work out of the box, and they work with almost everything. By default, this didn't work in null.
Tizen allows the "find my phone" feature to work. This also didn't work in null on my phone
Tizen gives the watch a mini version of the exercise app. Null doesn't have this, but you can sideload other apps.
Tizen gives the phone a standalone music player that can also play through bluetooth headphones. Null didn't do that for me.
Tizen also supports sleep tracking.
The battery life in Tizen is much better.
The Tizen upgrade is more than just an improvement in battery life.
The only thing I miss from the android experience is the unlocked kernel that allowed me to go from 800mhz single core to 1.6ghz dual core, the 15 second time limit for video being raised to 60 second and the mod that allows offline voice commands to work. Using null for much else lead to a major drain in battery life that caused me to leave my gear at home more often than not. With the Tizen upgrade the gear is now seriously being used as a tool rather than a toy to tinker with.
Of course, I totally understand why people running null say that Tizen makes it a toy and null makes their watch a real tool, but for me not having to waste time getting my smart watch setup was important. Out of the box, it's everything I need without having to waste too much time troubleshooting.
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What is the app it uses to connect to the phone. Or I mean what app installs on the phone to talk to the watch.
I only use for what I want notifications.
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I would go tizen if I can have 60 second recoding. I use it quite often. The root hack version isn't good enough for me. So for now null is better for me. I also like being to Bluetooth files to my gear with null.
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Curious
I just got my Gear a week ago and have been loving it running Null. I am curious about Tizen but was wondering if anyone is working on anything with it yet? e.g. Custom ROM's, etc. I've also heard through the rumor mills that Tizen may offer a solution for devices running AOSP ROM's? I am currently running infmaous ROM on my Note 3, but want to get back to an AOSP like CM11.
Thanks

Tizen Upgrade
Hi,
How do I upgrade from stock to Tizen?
Is it available in Australia yet?

andrewbat said:
Hi,
How do I upgrade from stock to Tizen?
Is it available in Australia yet?
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I assume you have Gear 1 since you don't have Tizen stock loaded?
@radekklamzynski7 has this up on XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767465
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After messing arround with Tizen for a while I am really sick of it.
I am not able to make all the features work on a non Samsung phone.
When I get one thing running, something else is broken. I have reinstalled everything for at least 5-7 times.
- Sometimes I am able to install apps from Galaxy store, sometimes not
- After a while notification (which is the only real usefull feature of the watch) crashes after receiving the first notification until I reboot or reinstall the phone
- There is no screen which shows notifications on the watch face
- All calls are automatically routed to the phone first: My phone is ringing and I start running arround and search for the watch to be able to pick up the phone
I am thinking of selling the watch on Ebay.
Or probably I'll play arround with Null first, to get rid of those crappy Samsung apps at least.
If I am lucky somebody is making an Android Wear port in the meantime.

novadaemon said:
Tizen is the way to go if you are using a non-Samsung phone and want to use the watch for what it was meant to be. So much more works out of the box and many of null's features were more of a novelty.
Playing roms on your watch isnt very viable due to the screen and battery life.
Browsing the internet on a watch is cool for a few minutes
Tizen allows notifications to work out of the box, and they work with almost everything. By default, this didn't work in null.
Tizen allows the "find my phone" feature to work. This also didn't work in null on my phone
Tizen gives the watch a mini version of the exercise app. Null doesn't have this, but you can sideload other apps.
Tizen gives the phone a standalone music player that can also play through bluetooth headphones. Null didn't do that for me.
Tizen also supports sleep tracking.
The battery life in Tizen is much better.
The Tizen upgrade is more than just an improvement in battery life.
The only thing I miss from the android experience is the unlocked kernel that allowed me to go from 800mhz single core to 1.6ghz dual core, the 15 second time limit for video being raised to 60 second and the mod that allows offline voice commands to work. Using null for much else lead to a major drain in battery life that caused me to leave my gear at home more often than not. With the Tizen upgrade the gear is now seriously being used as a tool rather than a toy to tinker with.
Of course, I totally understand why people running null say that Tizen makes it a toy and null makes their watch a real tool, but for me not having to waste time getting my smart watch setup was important. Out of the box, it's everything I need without having to waste too much time troubleshooting.
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Sorry may be a stupid question, but I flashed my S4 i9505 to GPE 4.4.4. How do i make it work with my Gear 1 which is now tizen?

bacman20 said:
Sorry may be a stupid question, but I flashed my S4 i9505 to GPE 4.4.4. How do i make it work with my Gear 1 which is now tizen?
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Go back to android on your gear 1. Lol. I couldn't tizen to play nice with anything but Samsung ROM with gear software.

Megaflop666 said:
Go back to android on your gear 1. Lol. I couldn't tizen to play nice with anything but Samsung ROM with gear software.
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Thank you. I was already considering it.

How do you use your Gear and what did you miss? Devs Tizen or Android?

Hi guys,
i'm just interested in how do you guys use your gear and which features you guys miss. i would suggest that all of you put it in a Format like i'll Show you. So it's easier for devs and maybe Samsung to overview this thread statistically. Maybe some of them will get inspired. who knows....
(sorry for the formatting of the text. but i have to use Internet Explorer and it automatically fixes it in a bad way. but i do not really care...sorry about that. )
Reason why i bought my Galaxy Gear
I thought my note 3 is too big for pulling it out that often just to know which time it is. Plus the uneccessary times when nothing important beeped like a new thread or a uploaded YouTube video. I thought it would be handy to have again a good looking watch for using my phone less.
Cause we all know how often we pull it out to check the time and begin to senseless checking here, replying there...For me this worked. Plus i thought it would be pure awesomeness to control music with this.
How do your needs changed or which features you began to miss when you had it quite a time?
-Seeing and changing wifi state, mobile data and maybe more but that 2 are most important to me.
-Broswing through the Music library of the currently used musicplayer. Missing this one was the most dissapointing thing to me.
-I had moments where it would have been very good when i could have used the camera a a silent security camera without time limitations and keeping the Screen black. So the thief won't recognize that he got on tape. This would be good to for uneccessary Police violence too.
- i would like to read all incoming Messages with a Speed Reader app like spritz.
-General Spritz like speedreading Integration
-Better capability of short replys from the gear to Facebook Messenger and apps like that.
-Ofcourse Google Now Integration instead of useless S-Voice...
- Clockfonts! MOAR JUST MOAAARRR or direct font using Integration...oooor zooper on tizen....xD
Android or Tizen?
After using Tizen a few days i say i am surpised about Tizen. Ofcourse there are no apps not even a calculator. But the System is more responsive and the Batterylife actually is much better for my usage. On Saturday at 17:30 o'clock it was charged to 100% now it's at 15...Before it lasts a day. Batterylife is more than tripled for me. Plus the voice recognition for taking photos is there. I missed that.
I am hoping that it will be possible to convert android apps for tizen and that it will last not that long till this day Comes. Cause the batterylife and the better response of the system are good arguments to me for having Tizen on a featurewatch like this. Yes you read right. For me this is a Feature watch. It isn't smart at all imo.
But as soon as i am familiar with Tasker i am instantly back on Android at this state to workout the missing stuff... Android APK compatibility is a huge Thing for pushing Tizens usability an acceptance Forward imo.
I am a Developer an my thoughts About "Android or Tizen" are:
Especially your guys opinion is interesting to me.
I am a Developer and got inspired to (currently) work(ing) on
Do not Forget to mention if it is for Tizen or Android if it isn't already obvious.
Would you buy it again or do you regret?
I would buy it again. Cause in first place it was what i expected. I do not really Need 2 Smartphones i only want to do not pull out my phone so often a day. But not browsing through Music is a pain in the ass to me...i paid 200 Bucks. i think this was a ok Price. Look around what normal watches can you can pay much much for for just seeing the time. If the battery wasnt that small it is totally OK to me.
Now it's your turn ladies guys and devs.
If you do not want to answer all of that just take the ones you want and make it fat.
sorry for my english
cheers

i purchased mine after the gear two came out, specifically because i prefer android, and i was excited to try out the null rom - i installed null rom within hours of getting it in the mail. i initially had CARBONROM (aosp based) running on my s3, and i had to jump through some hoops to get it to work at all, even with a custom rom on it, and it spurred me to switch back to touchwiz (i also got a note 8.0 around the same time).
initially i just played with it all day, like killing it immediately (there's a good amount of novelty to having a fully functional computer on your wrist), then i started just using it as it was meant to be used, to check notifications and what not. ive just managed to get offline voice recognition working, as well as the google now launcher, and autovoice with google search api - i've only just gotten into tasker because, although i didn't find it too useful for just a phone, for the phone/gear combo i think a lot of cool stuff is possible.
so yeah, in a nutshell, android all day. with regular use, my battery lasts plenty long - i don't understand why anyone has a problem with one day, i have to plug all my other stuff in at night anyways, and i have outlets, chargers and cables to spare, so... i just plug it in at night. a day is fine.

After upgrading to Tizen......

Hello, I recently updated to TIZEN and I must say that I LOVE IT NOW!!!! Wayyyyyy more apps, clocks, features, customizations and and enhancements, plus it seems to be faster!! Android OS had Very little apps/clocks etc, so it got boring real fast, not much you could do with it, plus there were not going to be anymore updates or apps added so i figured i would go ahead and update to tizen.. Just wanted to share my experience if your thinking about upgrading or not..

I am about to do this....
StephenLeo said:
Hello, I recently updated to TIZEN and I must say that I LOVE IT NOW!!!! Wayyyyyy more apps, clocks, features, customizations and and enhancements, plus it seems to be faster!! Android OS had Very little apps/clocks etc, so it got boring real fast, not much you could do with it, plus there were not going to be anymore updates or apps added so i figured i would go ahead and update to tizen.. Just wanted to share my experience if your thinking about upgrading or not..
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I unraveled my Rooted/Custom Recovery/null ROM'd Galaxy Gear today and went back to stock in preparation for this update. I was wondering how it is and have been looking for some related reviews, etc.
Good to know a little bit more about this before I take the leap.
Thanks.:good:

flashred said:
I unraveled my Rooted/Custom Recovery/null ROM'd Galaxy Gear today and went back to stock in preparation for this update. I was wondering how it is and have been looking for some related reviews, etc.
Good to know a little bit more about this before I take the leap.
Thanks.:good:
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So you need to revert to stock in order to do the update to Tizen? I still haven't decided yet. I need to read up what Tizen can or cannot do compared to Gear stock and then Null ROM; and working non Samsung phones as well.

I havent played with it as android OS , bought it and went direct to update to tizen , its watch not phone , it so tiny cant do alot , and Samsung Market got most of things i want.If its works alone without phone , you may need to do some tricks and roots for it , but phone always be with ya , play with phone and keep watch stock
didnt find anythin interesting to go android that beats Tizen for That gear

fortissimo said:
So you need to revert to stock in order to do the update to Tizen? I still haven't decided yet. I need to read up what Tizen can or cannot do compared to Gear stock and then Null ROM; and working non Samsung phones as well.
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No you don't, upgrading to tizen will erase EVERYTHING as it will also change the bootloader of the watch You'll have to update from Odin while entering the watch in download mode, so again NO you don't need to revert
Hope this helps
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mjrshark said:
I havent played with it as android OS , bought it and went direct to update to tizen , its watch not phone , it so tiny cant do alot , and Samsung Market got most of things i want.If its works alone without phone , you may need to do some tricks and roots for it , but phone always be with ya , play with phone and keep watch stock
didnt find anythin interesting to go android that beats Tizen for That gear
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To be frank, I have only one thing that I really miss and which is kind of a dealbreaker for me is the fact that you can't record more than 15sec in 720p, at least on android you could do 1min, and SVR was really convenient to record without others knowing it lol

Tizen = 0 app, Android = 500000000 apps. I love null rom! Thanks @fOmey
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I'm holding out for Android wear port and have ability to take a phone call. IMO not having this feature is its biggest failure. Yes I could tizen but in the end the wear app store will be where the apps are.
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gingerdude said:
I'm holding out for Android wear port and have ability to take a phone call. IMO not having this feature is its biggest failure. Yes I could tizen but in the end the wear app store will be where the apps are.
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In the mean time check out the app Sprocket on xda http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-gear/themes-apps/app-sprocket-sms-mms-file-transfer-t2804294 . The Dev has been updating it and just dropped an update the other day, I also have an Alpha of the next release which should be any day which fixed some FC issues for me. Anyhow he has the notifications from the device showing up on the Gear and most of them are interactable like music apps and my remote app. Basically if it has functions and stay on your phone notification, then you can control them via Sprocket. Also on the next release he has the Whitelist so you can turn off unwanted notifications. Right now I have Google Now notifications on the gear. Plus you can transfer files and install any apps from your phone on the gear. And a full sms/mms function on the watch, but it's not very easy to type on the gear unless you have google now working offline or you tether to your phone.
Chris

Last couple of days Gear 1 w/Tizen won't shut off - restarts everytime - have reset, uninstalled/reinstalled everything, even reflashed firmware - any ideas? Thanks in advance

StephenLeo said:
Hello, I recently updated to TIZEN and I must say that I LOVE IT NOW!!!! Wayyyyyy more apps, clocks, features, customizations and and enhancements, plus it seems to be faster!! Android OS had Very little apps/clocks etc, so it got boring real fast, not much you could do with it, plus there were not going to be anymore updates or apps added so i figured i would go ahead and update to tizen.. Just wanted to share my experience if your thinking about upgrading or not..
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I've lost substantial battery life - can't get through a full day now. Everything you mention is useless if it's sitting in the charger.

Avignon said:
I've lost substantial battery life - can't get through a full day now. Everything you mention is useless if it's sitting in the charger.
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I would probably check out whether you have a faulty battery, the general consensis is battery life is better on tizen. My gear rarely saw more than a day of battery life on the stock kernel with android, but with tizen I frequently only use 30% per day.

Avignon said:
I've lost substantial battery life - can't get through a full day now. Everything you mention is useless if it's sitting in the charger.
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I've also just moved back to Tizen and was getting not so good battery life. I followed someone's advice to reset the gear in recovery and it actually worked perfect. It's 200% better after doing that. I also reset in Tizen, then booted to recovery and it automatically resets. I did the recovery reset 2x though just to be sure. Anyhow good luck. And if you haven't done the reset in recovery please try that.
Chris

noellenchris said:
I've also just moved back to Tizen and was getting not so good battery life. I followed someone's advice to reset the gear in recovery and it actually worked perfect. It's 200% better after doing that. I also reset in Tizen, then booted to recovery and it automatically resets. I did the recovery reset 2x though just to be sure. Anyhow good luck. And if you haven't done the reset in recovery please try that.
Chris
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yes - I've done the reinstall GM and reset in recovery several times.
My battery life is worse than the original firmware from last year.
I'm trying to figure out how to get it back to where it was last week with the previous GM and Android.

I also face some problems with battery life. But the problem appears not always. Sometimes it use 30% per day, but sometimes it discharges in couple our hours. Seems like some of the processes drains battery. Any ideas what?

hurdleman said:
I also face some problems with battery life. But the problem appears not always. Sometimes it use 30% per day, but sometimes it discharges in couple our hours. Seems like some of the processes drains battery. Any ideas what?
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Anything that may be using the camera or motion to wake would drain battery. Also I do frequently double tap and hold with 2 fingers to bring up the task manager and close all running apps just to be sure.
Chris

Good day. I have Gear 2 and is on Tizen and my battery life on the stock standard and standard watchfaces is 1.5 to 2 day. I have recently changed the watch face with a nice custom built one and then this change drained the battery within one day. Thus my conclusion, the fancier the stuff you load the more operating power it use and then it drains the battery. Also I had the Gear1 on Android. Android in my opinion use more battery life by meas of operating power.

Is it still worth rooting my phone?

Good morning (or evening according to timezones)
I have recently purchased a new Note8. Even though the performance is mostly great, I sometimes get lag/stutters and the battery is not that great ( I can get about 3h SOT), but if I don't have my charger with me, there's no chance to get home with the phone still on.
My question is if it is still worth it to root the phone and put a custom Rom on it. I have looked through the various custom rom threads and I am tempted to flash one.
However, my main concern is the banking applications (saw that some don't work anymore after rooting).
At the moment I am on the latest official rom (with the october security patch). I mention that I have no warranty (phone bought from other country), so that shouldn't be an issue.
Any thought please? I have been missing from the android scene for a long time, went IOS there for a while, so I am not sure how to proceed.
Thank you in advance to anyone kind enough to read all this
Bogdan

My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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Thank you for your reply. I also use the device maintenance and reboot it occasionally, but battery life seems to he a hit and miss for me. I do keep the phone at max resolution and with a lot of sync on, but what would be the point of having a powerful device if we don't use it
I am also a bit surprised as to the low number of custom roms available. Not complaining or anything, but looking back to my old note 2 experience, there was far more enthusiasm at that time. Though android did get better since then

No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting

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No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting
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Thank you. I'll probably leave the OS alone for now

usually i always end up not rooting for the first 4-6 months due to warranty stuff.
But the moment i rooted, i've gained at least a 20-25% increase in battery life with the usual control one can have.
If it's for cosmetics, dont need root anymore for that. not much on exposed, things like Good Lock make it stay away from root edits.
I personally root for a few apps that i use, which some of them have better features when on root. and also for debloating.

Unless you are a developer or a tech hobbyist, I don't see the point in rooting current android devices as they work perfectly fine straight out the box.

Well, when rooting you gain total control, and can run some nice and useful apps that require root, I like viper4A, but as you pointed out, some apps do not run on rooted devices, banking and streaming apps among others, and of course, there is the one very important component that you loose for ever, secure folder