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Install Null or upgrade to Tizen?

Ok Samsung released an update for the original Gear the day i bought the thing, now i don't know what to do, should i install a Custom ROM such as Null or upgrade to Tizen?

Null for me! my automation home And 100000 possibility only with android!
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Just flip a coin!
Heads is Null.
Tails is Tizen.

Root and install null and play with it for a while until the Tizen offering becomes more pallatable (ie more native apps, and perhaps custom roms). If youget it to do the things you need in a smartwatch and the battery life is sufficient then there is no reason to "upgrade"
If you start to feel that the promise of having access to thousands of android apps is somewhat overated and largely impractical on the gear's form factor (as I did), or you feel that support is/will be slowly being withdrawn on native apps, or that you may need the extra efficiency with the battery life. Then you can always explore Tizen..Just beware that, at present, there is no viable way back.
I was happy to have had the ability to experiment with Null and truly appreciate Fomey's work. But I believe that the future ( for the Gear anyway) lies with Tizen..Hopefully Fomey will come on board and dev for us on the "dark side"

crutzulee said:
Root and install null and play with it for a while until the Tizen offering becomes more pallatable (ie more native apps, and perhaps custom roms). If youget it to do the things you need in a smartwatch and the battery life is sufficient then there is no reason to "upgrade"
If you start to feel that the promise of having access to thousands of android apps is somewhat overated and largely impractical on the gear's form factor (as I did), or you feel that support is/will be slowly being withdrawn on native apps, or that you may need the extra efficiency with the battery life. Then you can always explore Tizen..Just beware that, at present, there is no viable way back.
I was happy to have had the ability to experiment with Null and truly appreciate Fomey's work. But I believe that the future ( for the Gear anyway) lies with Tizen..Hopefully Fomey will come on board and dev for us on the "dark side"
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I totally agree
I used stock android
I used null rom
Im now on tizen
I preferred stock to null ,but appreciate what null had to offer
I prefer tizen over them all

This is honestly really interesting for me to read. I just got my Gear in the mail and when i get home it will be the 1st time i have got to mess with one. Just gonna try it out for a little while as is before i decide. Came with Android and im curious about Tizen. Hmm..

I'm enjoying learning about Android to much to swap to tizen at the moment. So far the stock experience of Android or tizen on the gear seems to be very similar. The only major difference so far is that lots of people are reporting better battery life on tizen. However app selection on tizen seems limited. I've really enjoyed playing with different third party apps whilst running null. At the moment, for me, tizen would take more than it gives from my user experience. If that changes somewhere down the line I can always move to tizen. However if I switch to tizen there is currently no way to switch back if I miss the current features I'm using with third party apps on null.

Tizen is for those who want a smartwatch with built in apps and don't want to 'play' with it. I think stock experience is terrible, and I would return the watch if i could not put Null rom on it.
Null is the actual upgrade, Tizen is a downgrade.

Tizen is the way to go if you are using a non-Samsung phone and want to use the watch for what it was meant to be. So much more works out of the box and many of null's features were more of a novelty.
Playing roms on your watch isnt very viable due to the screen and battery life.
Browsing the internet on a watch is cool for a few minutes
Tizen allows notifications to work out of the box, and they work with almost everything. By default, this didn't work in null.
Tizen allows the "find my phone" feature to work. This also didn't work in null on my phone
Tizen gives the watch a mini version of the exercise app. Null doesn't have this, but you can sideload other apps.
Tizen gives the phone a standalone music player that can also play through bluetooth headphones. Null didn't do that for me.
Tizen also supports sleep tracking.
The battery life in Tizen is much better.
The Tizen upgrade is more than just an improvement in battery life.
The only thing I miss from the android experience is the unlocked kernel that allowed me to go from 800mhz single core to 1.6ghz dual core, the 15 second time limit for video being raised to 60 second and the mod that allows offline voice commands to work. Using null for much else lead to a major drain in battery life that caused me to leave my gear at home more often than not. With the Tizen upgrade the gear is now seriously being used as a tool rather than a toy to tinker with.
Of course, I totally understand why people running null say that Tizen makes it a toy and null makes their watch a real tool, but for me not having to waste time getting my smart watch setup was important. Out of the box, it's everything I need without having to waste too much time troubleshooting.

novadaemon said:
Tizen is the way to go if you are using a non-Samsung phone and want to use the watch for what it was meant to be. So much more works out of the box and many of null's features were more of a novelty.
Playing roms on your watch isnt very viable due to the screen and battery life.
Browsing the internet on a watch is cool for a few minutes
Tizen allows notifications to work out of the box, and they work with almost everything. By default, this didn't work in null.
Tizen allows the "find my phone" feature to work. This also didn't work in null on my phone
Tizen gives the watch a mini version of the exercise app. Null doesn't have this, but you can sideload other apps.
Tizen gives the phone a standalone music player that can also play through bluetooth headphones. Null didn't do that for me.
Tizen also supports sleep tracking.
The battery life in Tizen is much better.
The Tizen upgrade is more than just an improvement in battery life.
The only thing I miss from the android experience is the unlocked kernel that allowed me to go from 800mhz single core to 1.6ghz dual core, the 15 second time limit for video being raised to 60 second and the mod that allows offline voice commands to work. Using null for much else lead to a major drain in battery life that caused me to leave my gear at home more often than not. With the Tizen upgrade the gear is now seriously being used as a tool rather than a toy to tinker with.
Of course, I totally understand why people running null say that Tizen makes it a toy and null makes their watch a real tool, but for me not having to waste time getting my smart watch setup was important. Out of the box, it's everything I need without having to waste too much time troubleshooting.
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What is the app it uses to connect to the phone. Or I mean what app installs on the phone to talk to the watch.
I only use for what I want notifications.
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I would go tizen if I can have 60 second recoding. I use it quite often. The root hack version isn't good enough for me. So for now null is better for me. I also like being to Bluetooth files to my gear with null.
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Curious
I just got my Gear a week ago and have been loving it running Null. I am curious about Tizen but was wondering if anyone is working on anything with it yet? e.g. Custom ROM's, etc. I've also heard through the rumor mills that Tizen may offer a solution for devices running AOSP ROM's? I am currently running infmaous ROM on my Note 3, but want to get back to an AOSP like CM11.
Thanks

Tizen Upgrade
Hi,
How do I upgrade from stock to Tizen?
Is it available in Australia yet?

andrewbat said:
Hi,
How do I upgrade from stock to Tizen?
Is it available in Australia yet?
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I assume you have Gear 1 since you don't have Tizen stock loaded?
@radekklamzynski7 has this up on XDA...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2767465
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After messing arround with Tizen for a while I am really sick of it.
I am not able to make all the features work on a non Samsung phone.
When I get one thing running, something else is broken. I have reinstalled everything for at least 5-7 times.
- Sometimes I am able to install apps from Galaxy store, sometimes not
- After a while notification (which is the only real usefull feature of the watch) crashes after receiving the first notification until I reboot or reinstall the phone
- There is no screen which shows notifications on the watch face
- All calls are automatically routed to the phone first: My phone is ringing and I start running arround and search for the watch to be able to pick up the phone
I am thinking of selling the watch on Ebay.
Or probably I'll play arround with Null first, to get rid of those crappy Samsung apps at least.
If I am lucky somebody is making an Android Wear port in the meantime.

novadaemon said:
Tizen is the way to go if you are using a non-Samsung phone and want to use the watch for what it was meant to be. So much more works out of the box and many of null's features were more of a novelty.
Playing roms on your watch isnt very viable due to the screen and battery life.
Browsing the internet on a watch is cool for a few minutes
Tizen allows notifications to work out of the box, and they work with almost everything. By default, this didn't work in null.
Tizen allows the "find my phone" feature to work. This also didn't work in null on my phone
Tizen gives the watch a mini version of the exercise app. Null doesn't have this, but you can sideload other apps.
Tizen gives the phone a standalone music player that can also play through bluetooth headphones. Null didn't do that for me.
Tizen also supports sleep tracking.
The battery life in Tizen is much better.
The Tizen upgrade is more than just an improvement in battery life.
The only thing I miss from the android experience is the unlocked kernel that allowed me to go from 800mhz single core to 1.6ghz dual core, the 15 second time limit for video being raised to 60 second and the mod that allows offline voice commands to work. Using null for much else lead to a major drain in battery life that caused me to leave my gear at home more often than not. With the Tizen upgrade the gear is now seriously being used as a tool rather than a toy to tinker with.
Of course, I totally understand why people running null say that Tizen makes it a toy and null makes their watch a real tool, but for me not having to waste time getting my smart watch setup was important. Out of the box, it's everything I need without having to waste too much time troubleshooting.
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Sorry may be a stupid question, but I flashed my S4 i9505 to GPE 4.4.4. How do i make it work with my Gear 1 which is now tizen?

bacman20 said:
Sorry may be a stupid question, but I flashed my S4 i9505 to GPE 4.4.4. How do i make it work with my Gear 1 which is now tizen?
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Go back to android on your gear 1. Lol. I couldn't tizen to play nice with anything but Samsung ROM with gear software.

Megaflop666 said:
Go back to android on your gear 1. Lol. I couldn't tizen to play nice with anything but Samsung ROM with gear software.
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Thank you. I was already considering it.

[Q] Gear1 to Tizen or Not?

I have a Galaxy Gear (1st gen) and it's still on Android.
Curious if I should stay on Android or move to the Tizen update?
I don't really plan to do much tinkering or hacking, but don't see much on rolling it back to Android if I don't like Tizen so thought I'd ask first.
TIA!
~poz

I updated mine and think its much better. I dont tinker much with the watch (i do with my phone) and generally just use the watch for its intended purpose.
Ive seen a thread with a working rollback to android. Although i think it takes abit of luck to make it work. Dont plan on rolling back though as i dont see the need.
I would suggest the update but thats just my opinion

Like maskerwsk said. If you're not tinkering with it then I think Tizen is the way to go. I upgraded shortly after I got mine. The battery life is better. I hear the performance is better but I can't vouch for that, I didn't play with android enough. The app support is much better and the launcher is visually more appealing, if that sort of thing is important to you. I like to check out the available stock options and then I cant resist the urge to mess with it. I have successfully downgraded back to android with out to much trouble. I have a custom recovery installed. The next step is to get Null loaded on it. If you intend to use it for it's intended purpose then you probably wont regret upgrading to Tizen.

Going back to android is easy, follow the thread and it's fine. I used tizen for the most part and everything worked fine for me using it on an lg g3 however I wasn't able to get gear manager working when I updated to lollipop on my g3 so back to null for me.
Null, when you set the cpu up properly easily last a full day, could probably get 2 days out of it if I don't play with it a lot. It's really a toss up. Try both and see what fits you better, or if non Samsung and lollipop, right now your only real option is android and with that no reason not to run null.

What's the video recording time limit on Tizen?
I get 3 days of battery on my Gear now because it's only for notification and occasional camera use.

Performance is much better than Android. And no side loading either!

xManMythLegend said:
What's the video recording time limit on Tizen?
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15 seconds.

I love to tinker so it's null all the way for me! I look at tizen and I think no: zooper, tasker, popup widget, gmd gesture control etc etc etc it's my device and I enjoy seeing how far I can push it and also workaround things that frustrate me like not being able to reply to a notification on whatsapp. But it's each to their own. I hope you enjoy your device whatever path you choose to take

It's a much better device on Tizen, with one critical exception, at least for me: the battery drain is horrible. On Android, I could still be in the low 90% range at the end of the day. On Tizen, it drains at an average rate of 7% an hour. Worse if I'm really active with it (video recording, etc.). It died mid-afternoon last week. I've reset the Gear and reinstalled Gear Manager, but no joy. I'd go back to Android but I like Tizen a lot more -- save for the drain.
Edit: This fix -- downgrading to the previous version of Gear Manager -- seems to have fixed the battery issue for me: http://forum.xda-developers.com/galaxy-gear/help/battery-dying-12-hours-t2887770.

Note 4 T-Mobile 32GB Random Rebooting/Slow

Hello my Note 4 is randomly rebooting all the time (it occurs randomly) and is slow (sometimes) when I use apps like messages, browsing the web etc...
I'm on the 6.0.1 marshmallow
I installed the clean master and battery saver apps and things were alittle better but it still is slow and restarts plus those apps are filled with spam and virus links so they will be deleted.
What are my options here to get this note running like new again?

eclipselion said:
Hello my Note 4 is randomly rebooting all the time (it occurs randomly) and is slow (sometimes) when I use apps like messages, browsing the web etc...
I'm on the 6.0.1 marshmallow
I installed the clean master and battery saver apps and things were alittle better but it still is slow and restarts plus those apps are filled with spam and virus links so they will be deleted.
What are my options here to get this note running like new again?
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First of all you delete apps like clean master and battery saver cuz this app killing your processor ram and battery .android 6.0 is very well optimized and it can handle everything without any 3rd party app. Just make factory reset,disable apps you dont use ,do not install junk or ram cleaning apps or even battery saving apps,android Marshmallow allready has doze feature that save battery while you are not using phone and goes to deep sleep. go to settings/battery/detail and you will see all apps are in doze.

Trex888 said:
First of all you delete apps like clean master and battery saver cuz this app killing your processor ram and battery .android 6.0 is very well optimized and it can handle everything without any 3rd party app. Just make factory reset,disable apps you dont use ,do not install junk or ram cleaning apps or even battery saving apps,android Marshmallow allready has doze feature that save battery while you are not using phone and goes to deep sleep. go to settings/battery/detail and you will see all apps are in doze.
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Any answers on the gentleman's inquiry though? I have a T-mobile Galaxy Note 4, and after having the phone for 1 year and a half, all of a sudden it started acting up last Thursday while I was running my stock 5.0.1, I had it rooted and TWRP on it since I bought it. The phone was a GREAT acquisition and I've always been an Android guy and started to learn about flashing, rooting and XDA since I had my S, S2. I thought that by simply upgrading my 910T to the new MM 6.0.1 everything was going to be taken care of and fixed, but boy was I so wrong.
Could you shed some light on this issue on this great phone?

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Any answers on the gentleman's inquiry though? I have a T-mobile Galaxy Note 4, and after having the phone for 1 year and a half, all of a sudden it started acting up last Thursday while I was running my stock 5.0.1, I had it rooted and TWRP on it since I bought it. The phone was a GREAT acquisition and I've always been an Android guy and started to learn about flashing, rooting and XDA since I had my S, S2. I thought that by simply upgrading my 910T to the new MM 6.0.1 everything was going to be taken care of and fixed, but boy was I so wrong.
Could you shed some light on this issue on this great phone?
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I think he answered pretty well. You should understand that these phones are, in essence, small computers. And like a computer, the phones will become fragmented and bog down overtime. The solution is a complete format of internal storage; wipe everything, format, cache and start from scratch. Odin is the best option so learn to use it if you haven't already.

Bruce lee roy said:
I think he answered pretty well. You should understand that these phones are, in essence, small computers. And like a computer, the phones will become fragmented and bog down overtime. The solution is a complete format of internal storage; wipe everything, format, cache and start from scratch. Odin is the best option so learn to use it if you haven't already.
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Thanks for your reply, however I asked the question to the gentleman as he only said to remove all of those junk third party apps as they were more harmful than anything else. I appreciate the lecture on what constitutes a phone, but I am very aware of it as well as being comfortable of the use of Odin and the rest of the steps. I have already done all that you suggested and the issues still occur after a week. Once again, I appreciate your reply.

Kr1sS129 said:
Thanks for your reply, however I asked the question to the gentleman as he only said to remove all of those junk third party apps as they were more harmful than anything else. I appreciate the lecture on what constitutes a phone, but I am very aware of it as well as being comfortable of the use of Odin and the rest of the steps. I have already done all that you suggested and the issues still occur after a week. Once again, I appreciate your reply.
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No problem. Response was not only intended for you but other members as well since you aren't the only one having performance issues. Only suggestions, you can take or leave whatever you'd like but you might get better results if you try harder to be a nice person.

Bruce lee roy said:
No problem. Response was not only intended for you but other members as well since you aren't the only one having performance issues.
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True! I stand corrected sir. I appreciate your assistance.

Hey guys, so today I tried a different battery cause my was bad and overheating and I can tell this one is good because it also is charging faster than before.
Now I did delete those apps clean master and battery saver like I said I would but I'm still getting random rebooting and slowness, one example would be I was typing a text and the phone took awhile to catch up to my typing and suddenly it restarted itself.
I'm not rooted and my rom is stock. Noticed today that my water indicator underneath the battery has triggered.
So I'm still looking for options...let me know, thanks.

A few questions about the 6.0.1 update

So I am a bit burned from updating my s5 mini (last time it just updated itself to 5.0, my battery life and performance shrunk and it wouldnt even let me disable bloatware).
Here are my questions:
1. How did the battery life change from 5.0;
2. How did the peformance change from 5.0 (including in-apps, opening them and regular menu opening/scrolling);
3. Is USB-OTG now supported?

1. Battery life has improved a lot, at least for me. It seems that Smart Manager is really doing its job and I'm seeing an improvement in both standby time and SOT. With a few tweaks here and there you can improve the battery life even more.
2. Everything feels smoother, there are some updated animations and transitions that really make the phone feel like new.
3. No, OTG on the S5 Mini has never been and never will be officially supported by Samsung. There is a custom kernel that enables OTG but it most likely affects the water resistance capabilities because of the exposed USB connector and also it's somewhat of a risk to use anything that requires power on a port that was never designed to do that.
One of the few drawbacks I noticed just today is that the auto brightness seems a lot less responsive. For example it's very sunny today and most of the time when pulling the phone out of my pocket the display was still stuck on low brightness. It might just be a conflict with xposed or something else I'm running. All in all I recommend that you update, I skipped the 5.1.1 update as well but for different reasons, 6.0.1 is pretty good.

kom-pakt said:
1. Battery life has improved a lot, at least for me. It seems that Smart Manager is really doing its job and I'm seeing an improvement in both standby time and SOT. With a few tweaks here and there you can improve the battery life even more.
2. Everything feels smoother, there are some updated animations and transitions that really make the phone feel like new.
3. No, OTG on the S5 Mini has never been and never will be officially supported by Samsung. There is a custom kernel that enables OTG but it most likely affects the water resistance capabilities because of the exposed USB connector and also it's somewhat of a risk to use anything that requires power on a port that was never designed to do that.
One of the few drawbacks I noticed just today is that the auto brightness seems a lot less responsive. For example it's very sunny today and most of the time when pulling the phone out of my pocket the display was still stuck on low brightness. It might just be a conflict with xposed or something else I'm running. All in all I recommend that you update, I skipped the 5.1.1 update as well but for different reasons, 6.0.1 is pretty good.
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What model are you using? I'm using the GH800F.
How big is the change? And I've heard that 6.0.1 gives you less performance for more battery. Is that correct?
Sorry, I'm just scared of updating because I don't want to lose all of my data for another let down like 5.1.1 (that literally just enabled itself out of ****ing nowhere and I lost everything).

weezerbabi said:
What model are you using? I'm using the GH800F.
How big is the change? And I've heard that 6.0.1 gives you less performance for more battery. Is that correct?
Sorry, I'm just scared of updating because I don't want to lose all of my data for another let down like 5.1.1 (that literally just enabled itself out of ****ing nowhere and I lost everything).
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G800F as well. Like I said, I've noticed a big improvement in battery life. Just make a backup of the important stuff on your phone like contacts and photos and try the 6.0.1 firmware - I recommend you do a clean install via ODIN.

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G800F as well. Like I said, I've noticed a big improvement in battery life. Just make a backup of the important stuff on your phone like contacts and photos and try the 6.0.1 firmware - I recommend you do a clean install via ODIN.
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Alright, as long as the performance hasn't decreased (especially in games) then I'll update.
Since I've got most things on my SD card, can I just remove it from my phone, update and put it back in?

weezerbabi said:
Alright, as long as the performance hasn't decreased (especially in games) then I'll update.
Since I've got most things on my SD card, can I just remove it from my phone, update and put it back in?
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Yes, backup everything you don't want to lose to your card, wipe the phone from recovery and install a fresh 6.0.1 firmware with ODIN. If you don't like Marshmallow you can always go back to KitKat.

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Yes, backup everything you don't want to lose to your card, wipe the phone from recovery and install a fresh 6.0.1 firmware with ODIN. If you don't like Marshmallow you can always go back to KitKat.
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That's the problem, I can't revert. I tried doing it with 5.1.1 but it just wouldn't let me. I tried multiple times, on multiple PC's with multiple USB wires. (which is why I'm so nervous).
P.s. So if I remove my card, installl 6.0.1 and add it again it'll work?

weezerbabi said:
That's the problem, I can't revert. I tried doing it with 5.1.1 but it just wouldn't let me. I tried multiple times, on multiple PC's with multiple USB wires. (which is why I'm so nervous).
P.s. So if I remove my card, installl 6.0.1 and add it again it'll work?
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You should be able to revert, if you can't then there's an issue with something - maybe you haven't updated the Samsung USB drivers?
Yes, it will work. Backup your contacts, messages, photos, videos, anything you want saved on your card and pull it out before you update if you're so nervous.

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You should be able to revert, if you can't then there's an issue with something - maybe you haven't updated the Samsung USB drivers?
Yes, it will work. Backup your contacts, messages, photos, videos, anything you want saved on your card and pull it out before you update if you're so nervous.
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So I just updated and it's been sitting at "samsung" for the past 5 minutes. Why?

weezerbabi said:
So I just updated and it's been sitting at "samsung" for the past 5 minutes. Why?
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The first boot takes ~15 minutes, be patient. Check out threads about the Marshmallow update you'll find a lot of useful info.

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The first boot takes ~15 minutes, be patient. Check out threads about the Marshmallow update you'll find a lot of useful info.
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Oh wow. This is just...
It is so sluggish like wtf...

Also be aware that marshmallow ****s up your gps big time. if you're only using it for rough navigation it's fine, but don't expect accuracy as a pedestrian

Hi, i flashed stock MM TW comming from CyanogenMod 13. My battery life seems worse than before with CMod... What should I do?

Before upgrading to MM I did a benchmark test (AnTuTu) on 4.4.2 for comparison, ran the same test on MM and here are the results.

Thanks for the test. A more meaningful one would be to compare Lollipop 5.1 with MM 6.0.1 as most S5 Mini users have Lollipop installed.

I have a question about the MM 6.0.1 update. I flashed the new rom al updatet and seemd to work perfect. Then i noticed, the battery life was very poor. So take a good look at what was draining it. During the day it seemd okay, then when i got home it started rapidly draining again. I managed to figure out that when i am using 4G/LTE everything is fine but when i am home and change to my wifi, my screen turns on every 3 minutes or something and it complety unlocks as wel. because i have my screen time set to 1 minute it stays that way then turns of and about 3 minutes later turns itself on again. When i disable wifi the problem is gone.
Has anyone a idea how to fix this? i live at the border of my country and without wifi its gonna be expesive with roaming costs ....
Thanx in advance for your reply's

Hi, I'm using Germany (DBT) firmware.
I usually use Ultra Power Saving Mode.
Then after turn off Ultra Saving Mode, e-mail application is asking me "admin priviliages confirmation" for each time. (only for Exchange account)

My flashlight don't work in the dark after the update to marshmellow.
Tried another from play store, the same issue
DBT firmware

Myke72 said:
My flashlight don't work in the dark after the update to marshmellow.
Tried another from play store, the same issue
DBT firmware
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I had the same issue. Resetting the app worked for me. (btw. I googled that)
"Anwendungsmanager", "Kamera", "Speicher", "Daten löschen" und "Cache leeren".
Since you said you are on the DBT firmware, I assumed you are german.

I'm on 5.1.1 not rooted with g800f. Should I update to MM with Odin first then flash the custom recovery? Thank you!

Is it still worth rooting my phone?

Good morning (or evening according to timezones)
I have recently purchased a new Note8. Even though the performance is mostly great, I sometimes get lag/stutters and the battery is not that great ( I can get about 3h SOT), but if I don't have my charger with me, there's no chance to get home with the phone still on.
My question is if it is still worth it to root the phone and put a custom Rom on it. I have looked through the various custom rom threads and I am tempted to flash one.
However, my main concern is the banking applications (saw that some don't work anymore after rooting).
At the moment I am on the latest official rom (with the october security patch). I mention that I have no warranty (phone bought from other country), so that shouldn't be an issue.
Any thought please? I have been missing from the android scene for a long time, went IOS there for a while, so I am not sure how to proceed.
Thank you in advance to anyone kind enough to read all this
Bogdan

My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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My Note 8 is the first Samsung phone I haven't rooted as I didn't feel the need to! It's quick and my battery lasts all day (I do have it on medium power saving) and have no problems at all. The Device Maintenance seems to very efficiently clean things up for me when it does get a bit sluggish and I do a restart about every couple of days! I'm very satisfied with my SM-9500 256 GB dual SIM from China! I charge wirelessly every night and use my phone as my bedside clock ...
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Thank you for your reply. I also use the device maintenance and reboot it occasionally, but battery life seems to he a hit and miss for me. I do keep the phone at max resolution and with a lot of sync on, but what would be the point of having a powerful device if we don't use it
I am also a bit surprised as to the low number of custom roms available. Not complaining or anything, but looking back to my old note 2 experience, there was far more enthusiasm at that time. Though android did get better since then

No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting

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No benifit... after rooting you can havw viper sound modes (most imp) if you are music lover ..i haven't found anything interesting after rooting. I use stock room with no app removed and only viper4 android install. So there no point of rooting
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Thank you. I'll probably leave the OS alone for now

usually i always end up not rooting for the first 4-6 months due to warranty stuff.
But the moment i rooted, i've gained at least a 20-25% increase in battery life with the usual control one can have.
If it's for cosmetics, dont need root anymore for that. not much on exposed, things like Good Lock make it stay away from root edits.
I personally root for a few apps that i use, which some of them have better features when on root. and also for debloating.

Unless you are a developer or a tech hobbyist, I don't see the point in rooting current android devices as they work perfectly fine straight out the box.

Well, when rooting you gain total control, and can run some nice and useful apps that require root, I like viper4A, but as you pointed out, some apps do not run on rooted devices, banking and streaming apps among others, and of course, there is the one very important component that you loose for ever, secure folder