Hello All , Currently i have Xperia Z1 C6903 Running Android 4.3 "14.2.A.1.136" , and i got 4.4 OTA Update .
My question is if i accepted the update , can i root it afterwards by unlocking the bootloader and install custom recovery , and root it ?
or i can root my current os 4.3 then update to 4.4 OTA and the root will be still there ?
You can Root it by Unlocking Bootloader but if you do so you will lose DRM Keys forever and your Warranty will be void. No, you can not root any current Android 4.3 or 4.4 directly, to do so you have to follow the steps by NUT to downgrade, get Root then Backup TA (very Important) then you can update to 4.4 or 4.3 always with NUT method. Why not OTA? Because you will lose Root. So the only way is to Downgrade to get Root and Upgrade after.
Never accept an OTA with an unlocked boot
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Hi all,
I have a few questions that burn me. Just received the OTA notification that .569 is available (304.4 MB)
I am running .67 with stock recovery, root and phone encryption. Will those be preserved if i OTA update ?
mromantan said:
Hi all,
I have a few questions that burn me. Just received the OTA notification that .569 is available (304.4 MB)
I am running .67 with stock recovery, root and phone encryption. Will those be preserved if i OTA update ?
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AFAIK root is lost and recovery is rewritten. I don't use phone encryption but I guess it is ok (or it would be stupid of Sony).
My experience has always been that OTA updates break root, and most of the time you wont be able to get it back until there is an exploit for the new firmware
4.3 OTA update will take away root and you will be unable to root under 4.3 directly.
You have to use the root methods shown as below(root under 4.2-flash another recovery-flash pre-root 4.3).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2565850
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2590088
OTA left my root as it is. Check my post, how I did it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50052461&postcount=36
This was the first OTA that broke my root, even with supersu in survival mode.
I updated ota from 4.2 to 4.3 and kept root.
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Hey guys,
I just bought my Xperia Z1 model : c6903 4.3 Jelly bean version 1.4.2.A.1.136, I want to know this is work to root and how ? because I keep tried for many root program like vroot but it doesn't work even I do not know how to enter to recovery mode too. I tried to do as many way to enter to recovery mode what I have found but it doesn't work.
Thanks for your helping !
There's no way to root 4.3 directly yet. You have to downgrade to 4.2 root & install recoveries than update with custom rom.
The only way is a method to get full root on your phone. Downgrade to the firmware .534 provided by NUT to not lose IMEI, Root with Bin4ry, then follow the instruction to Update to .290 HERE, then follow the instruction to Update to .136 HERE.
so iflashed .534 firmware ang root using vroot then i update .290 via OTA, now the root is gone. my bootloader is locked.
im kinda nervous rooting 4.3 cause im reading lots of people hard bricking their phone on 4.3. is it really safe to root 4.3? i will be followibg this tutorial:
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2572988
Hard bricking happen when you do something stupid. Also in general there is a Thread How NOT Brick your Phone. Anyway, to get root you have to downgrade again to .534, I recommend to root with Bin4ry, then update directly to .136 with instructions given by NUT Here. You cannot keep root updating system via OTA, you will lose everything.
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Hey hi,
I want to install CM11 (Android 4.4.2) I got as stated 136, as far as I understand I need to downgrade than root than backup than unlock than backup again (just in cace) than upgrade and than install cm 11? Is that correct?
Or do I need to unlock earlier? Or later?
You have to downgrade to .534, Root with Bin4ry, Install DualRecovery, Backup TA, Update to .136 with the instruction by NUT and pre-rooted .136. Then follow the instruction to Unlock Bootloader. You have to have Unlocked Bootloader to install CM11. Do not flash it on Locked one because you will brick your phone. Also after Unlock Bootloader you Warranty will be void. Read very carefully before attempt anything.
I was a pro Symbian firmware modder in good old Symbian days. And now migrated to android.
Thus this will be my first Android root and if succeeded I'll make and release some good CFWs.
I want to root my Z3 Compact coz some apps needs device rooted and also I dont want any restrictions.
My Z3 Compact is under warranty and I dont want to brick it nor wanna void its warranty.
I just want to Root my Z3 Compact to stock original firmware.
Currently I'm on KITKAT 4.4.4. ver. 23.0.1.A.5.77. INDIA (D5833)
Not interested for Lollypop. So please dont suggest to.
I know I have to follow the following thread:
How-to: root, keep and backup DRM keys, etc. [KitKat/Lollipops]
Still some queries before proceeding further:
In the above thread it states that,
---Downgrade the firmware, as the root exploit only works with older firmware such as 23.0.A.2.93.
So does that mean I have to downgrade below my current23.0.1.A.5.77. ?
---Downgrade fw to 23.0.A.2.93 (Device D5803) or anything prior to 23.0.1.A.5.77 (december fw)
So does this method also work on D5833) ?
---Upgrade the firmware to the latest version, while retaining root access.
So do I compulsorily have to update to any latest ver. of Kitkat or Lollipop?
I dont wanna move from my current 23.0.1.A.5.77.
---Also what is pre-rooted image and non-pre-rooted image? Which one to go for?
---Also I dont want to Unlock my Bootloader so is Rooting possible without unlocking bootloader?
---Finally I need Stock Original Sony INDIA ver 23.0.1.A.5.77 (D5833)
So where can I find it?
Answer my queries as they appear to get a clear idea.
nri_tech1183 said:
I was a pro Symbian firmware modder in good old Symbian days. And now migrated to android.
Thus this will be my first Android root and if succeeded I'll make and release some good CFWs.
I want to root my Z3 Compact coz some apps needs device rooted and also I dont want any restrictions.
My Z3 Compact is under warranty and I dont want to brick it nor wanna void its warranty.
I just want to Root my Z3 Compact to stock original firmware.
Currently I'm on KITKAT 4.4.4. ver. 23.0.1.A.5.77. INDIA (D5833)
Not interested for Lollypop. So please dont suggest to.
I know I have to follow the following thread:
How-to: root, keep and backup DRM keys, etc. [KitKat/Lollipops]
Still some queries before proceeding further:
In the above thread it states that,
---Downgrade the firmware, as the root exploit only works with older firmware such as 23.0.A.2.93.
So does that mean I have to downgrade below my current23.0.1.A.5.77. ?
---Downgrade fw to 23.0.A.2.93 (Device D5803) or anything prior to 23.0.1.A.5.77 (december fw)
So does this method also work on D5833) ?
---Upgrade the firmware to the latest version, while retaining root access.
So do I compulsorily have to update to any latest ver. of Kitkat or Lollipop?
I dont wanna move from my current 23.0.1.A.5.77.
---Also what is pre-rooted image and non-pre-rooted image? Which one to go for?
---Also I dont want to Unlock my Bootloader so is Rooting possible without unlocking bootloader?
---Finally I need Stock Original Sony INDIA ver 23.0.1.A.5.77 (D5833)
So where can I find it?
Answer my queries as they appear to get a clear idea.
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Cannot answer everything but will try : it should work on d5833. All you need is the old firmware for the root exploid. Pre rooted image is a zip file which u can flash via recovery after u root ur current firmware and install recovery. With this u will have root from the beginning. Nearly all flashable rom have root access.
Dont know if india has some difference in firmware but u could try a pre rooted international firmware.
Unlocking bootloader is not needed for root as long as u stay on stock roms. If u want try cm12 or something else u have to unlock.
Reason for needed downgrade is the fact to backup drm keys(ta partition). Root would be easy just unlock bootloader install recovery flash su, done. But then drm keys are gone. That is the Reason for this procedure. If a general firmware wont work for u u have to download the indian firmware via xperiafirm and use prfcreator to build ur own pre rooted zip
basti2909 said:
Cannot answer everything but will try : it should work on d5833. All you need is the old firmware for the root exploid. Pre rooted image is a zip file which u can flash via recovery after u root ur current firmware and install recovery. With this u will have root from the beginning. Nearly all flashable rom have root access.
Dont know if india has some difference in firmware but u could try a pre rooted international firmware.
Unlocking bootloader is not needed for root as long as u stay on stock roms. If u want try cm12 or something else u have to unlock.
Reason for needed downgrade is the fact to backup drm keys(ta partition). Root would be easy just unlock bootloader install recovery flash su, done. But then drm keys are gone. That is the Reason for this procedure. If a general firmware wont work for u u have to download the indian firmware via xperiafirm and use prfcreator to build ur own pre rooted zip
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Ok thanks.
So can I go ahead for root with my current kitkat 23.0.1.A.5.77 ?
...Sent from my Z3 C
Awaiting More help and replies.
...Sent from my Z3 C
@nri_tech1183
- D5833: For sure!
- Root with locked bootloader: Yep!
- Sony's stock firmwares: XperiFirm (KK or LP)
- Flashing stock firmwares: Flashtool
- Root: Downgrade to 23.0.A.2.106 fw (or older) and giefroot it (23.0.1.A.5.77 is not rootable by giefroot's exploit)!
- Utils for post root: XZDualRecovery and PRFCreator
- Pre-rooted image: Stock fw with root and/or recovery(ies)
- Non-pre-rooted image: Stock fw
Ok so once rooted can I again flash to 23.0.1.A.5.77 ???
serajr said:
@nri_tech1183
- D5833: For sure!
- Root with locked bootloader: Yep!
- Sony's stock firmwares: XperiFirm (KK or LP)
- Flashing stock firmwares: Flashtool
- Root: Downgrade to 23.0.A.2.106 fw (or older) and giefroot it (23.0.1.A.5.77 is not rootable by giefroot's exploit)!
- Utils for post root: XZDualRecovery and PRFCreator
- Pre-rooted image: Stock fw with root and/or recovery(ies)
- Non-pre-rooted image: Stock fw
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nri_tech1183 said:
Ok so once rooted can I again flash to 23.0.1.A.5.77 ???
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Yep, do it this way:
- Install Dual Recovery (installer)
- Create a 23.0.1.A.5.77 pre rooted firmware with Super SU and Dual Recovery
- Flash it on recovery
Guys I found another guide which allows to Root on 23.0.1.A.5.77 . http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/how-root-xperia-z3-z3-compact-locked-bootloaders-1485046
What you suggest??
I'm not able to find anyware Indian ver. of Xperia Z3 compact D5833 KITKAT ver 23.0.A.2.93.
If anybody willing to help me get it somewhere only then I'm willing to root with the method mentioned here.
Also whats the diff. between Commercial/journalist firmware and regional ones?
simplest way to root ANY smartphone without pc
1. Allow unknown sources
2. Install aptoi
3. Search in aptoide "safe remove system app"
4. Install it and run
5. It requires root and give you "root tools"
6. Install kingroot from root tools and run
7. Now you have root
P.S. In some models, from 4.3+, TB or busybox won't work. But you can use root rights for any application and uninstall unwanted pre-installed apps.
Have fun!
Ok so I decided to downgrade to good old Kitkat 4.4.4
I have the ftf file.
I dont want to root to anything but simply plain downgrade to kitkat.
Can I simply use Flashtools for downgrading?? Will my drm keys and bootloader will stay intact or will it harm??
nri_tech1183 said:
Ok so I decided to downgrade to good old Kitkat 4.4.4
I have the ftf file.
I dont want to root to anything but simply plain downgrade to kitkat.
Can I simply use Flashtools for downgrading?? Will my drm keys and bootloader will stay intact or will it harm??
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Drm stay intact. Simple flash kitkat and u are good to go. Backup internal sd. Will be wiped
IS this method still the best for root?? Or is there any newer easy method to root without loosing drm keys and boorloader???
I want to Stock root my xperia zc d5833.
I'm on latest lollipop. Do I need to downgrade to Kitkat 4.4.4 for the root or can I root directly on existing lollipop?
What if i downgrade then how to upgrade to lollipop without loosing root???
I followed this guide and successfully rooted my z3c.
Have some very important queries:
Will a factory reset wipe the root access?
In point no. 43 you said--Open Flashtool and select the non-pre-rooted fw (this is 23.1.A.0.690), but DESELECT system: in "EXCLUDE" make sure you check the checkbox next to "SYSTEM", flash it.
So here can I flash the latest lollipop 23.4.a.0.546 fw in place of 23.1.A.0.690 ??
Can I now directly update to any latest lollipop/marshmallow via OTA/pc suite without loosing Root access?