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Strange reaction on teflon coating

Anyone else got this on their phone?
It started last night and seems to have got progressively worse.
I think it's time to get it in for a repair and get the leaking left hand bottom corner of my screen done at the same time.

http://mobile.engadget.com/2010/04/02/nexus-one-losing-finish-innocence/

Is it from the heat? Moisture? Weird! Hope mine doesn't do that!

SiNJiN76 said:
Is it from the heat? Moisture? Weird! Hope mine doesn't do that!
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I'm not sure, I can only say we have been on holiday this week and it has been TORRENTIAL rain all week.
But my phone hasn't got that wet at all?!?!?
Also when we returned to our apartment each night it was VERY VERY warm in there. I'm not sure if that's caused the issue or not.
Anyway, I'll ring HTC tomorrow.

Holy-
That scares me just looking at that! Mine is almost always in a case. :\

andythefan said:
Holy-
That scares me just looking at that! Mine is almost always in a case. :\
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Same here, only time I take off my case is to change battery's

I was doing a clutch replacement on my car last Feb and I accidentally got brake cleaner on the back of my G1. If anyone felt or has/had a G1 will know the back has a rubber feel to it almost like the Nexus One. The cleaner was only on for a few seconds and the result was exactly what your picture is showing. It caused it to wrinkle and bubble up. I peeled it away and ended up buying a new cover.

yep, brake cleaner'll do that lol
had you tried to clean the trackball at some point recently?
if so, what did you use so i dont use it lol

I noticed a small raised area on my bottom cover that could be the start of something similar. Did you get a reply from HTC?

pongalong said:
I noticed a small raised area on my bottom cover that could be the start of something similar. Did you get a reply from HTC?
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Can you post a pic or two?

pongalong said:
I noticed a small raised area on my bottom cover that could be the start of something similar. Did you get a reply from HTC?
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I haven'y been able to contact them yet due to the Easter break.
I will be doing it first thing Tuesday.
Hopefully they'll repair it under warranty because to be honest I ave no idea whats happened.

Okay.
Rung HTC today.
Phone is being collected tomorrow and they did not ask if it was unlocked.
They also didn't ask for a CC to charge against.
Fingers crossed.

uansari1 said:
Can you post a pic or two?
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I tried taking a photo of it, but it's near impossible to capture. I probably wouldn't have noticed if I didn't look for it after reading the OPs post. If it progresses I'll take one and contact HTC. Right now if I run my fingernail lightly across the front where the bottom half meets the metal frame I can feel a bump on the "teflon." Also when held up to the light and viewed at the proper angle I can see a very small line or crack.
If I posted the photos I doubt many people would be able to see it. Hopefully it stays this way and if it gets worse HTC will fix it.

Update:
Phone was collected Wednesday at 3:30pm.
They rung today to say it had been repaired and had passed final test and will be shipped either today or monday!
Not a bad service at all.
I'm presuming because of the speed they will send a replacement.

And this is why I advise using a skin protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618006

I would actually like to z brake cleaner go up against 1 of those skins

Paul22000 said:
And this is why I advise using a skin protector
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=618006
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Disagree, it was just my stupidity.
I had a G1 for 18 months and a HTC Hero afterwards, they were both like new when I sold them.

disgustip8ted said:
I would actually like to z brake cleaner go up against 1 of those skins
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Supposedly it's military grade stuff so I bet it wouldn't even affect it. At the very least, I guarantee the effects of what the OP posted would at least be minimized greatly, if not prevented entirely.
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Paul22000 said:
Supposedly it's military grade stuff so I bet it wouldn't even affect it. At the very least, I guarantee the effects of what the OP posted would at least be minimized greatly, if not prevented entirely.
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LOL! Brake fluid and brake cleaner can look at plastic and it will dissolve. I don't care what grade it is, I promise you it will not hold up to it.

I tried taking some photos under sunlight to capture what could be the start of this problem. They are more difficult to see in the photos than with the eye, so I'm not entirely crazy about this and I'm posting these photos in case this can be used as an early warning sign of a more serious problem for other users. As I mentioned before I probably wouldn't have noticed for quite some time if I hadn't read the OPs post. The darkened spot circled in the photos is raised and can be felt when running my finger along it. When viewed at the proper angle there also appears to be a small crease/crack on the bump.
I had kept my phone in a full phantomskinz before and have since moved to a flexible TPU style case, so there's very little chance of me having bumped it somewhere.
Possible reasons this could be happening? Heat? Moisture? I'm really not sure, but if it turns into a problem like the OPs it could be trouble. Anyone think I should just contact HTC or should I wait and see what becomes of it?

Poetic Element Aluminum TPU Case

$14.95 shipped - http://tinyurl.com/8uy2jbu
Let me know what you guys think. I though it was pretty awesome other than the Poetic branding on the back.

Hey man just received mine today!! I got the white one..its clean and fits perfect and very slim !!!!!
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why on earth would they put that ugly logo on this
i would buy it if it comes without the logo

the logo looks to be a sticker. i will be attempting to remove that sticker and maybe head to the mall later this week and get a vinyl "NEXUS" or maybe just a "7". Also thought about maybe a CM10 or an AOSP. just not sure yet. i'll post pics tonight if it is just a sticker.

Like I said..I already have this case....idont believe its a sticker ...don't bother trying to get it off..just place ur sticker over it
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I also have this case- it's not aluminum- it's plastic with an aluminum stick on insert.
Not a good deal ($14.95) for a plastic back cover....

robdroyd said:
I also have this case- it's not aluminum- it's plastic with an aluminum stick on insert.
Not a good deal ($14.95) for a plastic back cover....
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Pfff its a great case IMO ...considering I didn't pay anything near your 14$ price lol
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Just got this case in the mail today.
Really nice and snug fit. Only adds a bit of bulk to the Nexus, but not a ton.
The only thing I worry about is that the backing of it is super slick... I can see my Nexus getting bumped and going sliding off whatever it's sitting on.

http://db.tt/xI7XbCWS
its a sticker. maybe time to get your eyes checked.
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NickDblU said:
Just got this case in the mail today.
Really nice and snug fit. Only adds a bit of bulk to the Nexus, but not a ton.
The only thing I worry about is that the backing of it is super slick... I can see my Nexus getting bumped and going sliding off whatever it's sitting on.
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worry more about denting it. that happens pretty easily.
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http://db.tt/WM2RQahM
didn't even take a pointy knife either.
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ngc604 said:
http://db.tt/xI7XbCWS
its a sticker. maybe time to get your eyes checked.
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worry more about denting it. that happens pretty easily.
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http://db.tt/WM2RQahM
didn't even take a pointy knife either.
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Man, what's your problem? Me and the OP both like the case and you don't. You don't have to use it if you don't want to.
Sent from my really cool phone w/ a screen

It's good that potential purchasers get to hear both sides, the good and the bad.

Troute said:
It's good that potential purchasers get to hear both sides, the good and the bad.
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I totally agree. Aside from that, it looks like its a good case and possibly a good buy.

Nxxx said:
Man, what's your problem? Me and the OP both like the case and you don't. You don't have to use it if you don't want to.
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I like the case. I knew I'd like the case before I bought it. I responded for the people who might like this case without the sticker on it. And show how easy it is to take the sticker off.
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I purchased http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Poetic-TM-Leather-Case-Cover-Amazon-Kindle-Fire-7-Tablet-Black-/140664905919?pt=US_Tablet_eReader_Cases_Covers_Keyboard_Folios&hash=item20c04820bf#ht_2778wt_1180 to use in combination with the Poetic Element case. I just wanted something that I could use in addition to the shell if I were to want my Nexus to sit upright, or if I was just wanting to take it out with some additional piece of mind.
I had to bend the corner tabs a bit to get it to fit correctly, but it seems to be working alright. It's definitely snug inside this bookshell case. I wasn't too worried about having the Auto sleep functionality, but at least this shows that you can use this type of case in addition to the shell.
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Anyone knows how to open this watch?

Hiw do u open a watch like this?
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It has no screws. I tried using a credit card, but no luck
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That's not the way to use your credit card! Give it to a watch repairer and see the magic!
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vbhtt said:
That's not the way to use your credit card! Give it to a watch repairer and see the magic!
Sent from my bowl of jelly!
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I was using an expired credit card! I'm not in my home country and watch repairers are at least 9 miles away in town. $20 for taxi+$5-6 for watch repairer= no, i'll try myself
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jj_95nano said:
Hiw do u open a watch like this?
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It has no screws. I tried using a credit card, but no luck
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The back of the watch IS the screw. Each indentation along the circumference of the back is a notch, there is a tool that lines up with them used to remove the back. From there you can access what guts the watch has. Hopefully this is an academic question though,. If you are looking for a working watch, I would agree that a jeweler or watchmaker is the better place to start

Firstly, you need a vice, in which to hold this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MKCLOCKS-Wa...OQ6Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357217598&sr=8-2
The watch is locked into it face down.
Then you need this to remove the securing ring on the back:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIGIFLEX-Pr...JDBQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357217548&sr=8-2
By the time you have bought it all, it is probably cheaper to take into a jewellers. He already has all this stuff, and can whip it off in a jiffy.

jj_95nano said:
I was using an expired credit card! I'm not in my home country and watch repairers are at least 9 miles away in town. $20 for taxi+$5-6 for watch repairer= no, i'll try myself
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The early morning troll gets the worm!

Take a strong pair of scissors.
Place the points of the scissors into two opposing notches on the ring.
While holding the scissors down firmly, and the holding the watch still, turn the ring anticlockwise.
Be aware that you may:
A) Break the scissors.
B) Slip and score the watch back.
C) Slip and stick the scissors into your hand.
D) Slip and gouge a furrow across the dining table.
E) Slip and sever a pinky.
F) All of the above.

Throw it to the ground :sly:

RedmanOPG said:
The back of the watch IS the screw. Each indentation along the circumference of the back is a notch, there is a tool that lines up with them used to remove the back. From there you can access what guts the watch has. Hopefully this is an academic question though,. If you are looking for a working watch, I would agree that a jeweler or watchmaker is the better place to start
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Thiscanswers my question. So basically its impossible without the tools.
stephj said:
Firstly, you need a vice, in which to hold this:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/MKCLOCKS-Wa...OQ6Q/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357217598&sr=8-2
The watch is locked into it face down.
Then you need this to remove the securing ring on the back:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/DIGIFLEX-Pr...JDBQ/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1357217548&sr=8-2
By the time you have bought it all, it is probably cheaper to take into a jewellers. He already has all this stuff, and can whip it off in a jiffy.
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You are right I might aswell take it to a watchmaker when i go to town
stephj said:
Take a strong pair of scissors.
Place the points of the scissors into two opposing notches on the ring.
While holding the scissors down firmly, and the holding the watch still, turn the ring anticlockwise.
Be aware that you may:
A) Break the scissors.
B) Slip and score the watch back.
C) Slip and stick the scissors into your hand.
D) Slip and gouge a furrow across the dining table.
E) Slip and sever a pinky.
F) All of the above.
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Hehe i will not do that.
Bottom line: cant do it myself, need to go to the repairman
Thanks for answering guys!

Download a watch opener
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dexter93 said:
Throw it to the ground :sly:
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Throw it *on* the ground.
Cry, Benihime!

There is an app in the play store called watch opener. It's a root app. Download it. That would work.
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jj_95nano said:
How do you open a watch like this?
It has no screws. I tried using a credit card, but no luck
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Guy probably has a supercomputer in his basement and can't unscrew the back of a watch...

Thats OK said:
Guy probably has a supercomputer in his basement and can't unscrew the back of a watch...
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My motherboard shows "No Keyboard Detected. Press Enter to Continue."
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Hidden Username said:
My motherboard shows "No Keyboard Detected. Press Enter to Continue."
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I'm abandoning my thread

That's easy. All you need to do is create an extreme low pressure out side the watch and very high pressure inside the watch.
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m1l4droid said:
A hammer?
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Exactly. A hammer is the answer
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veeman said:
That's easy. All you need to do is create an extreme low pressure out side the watch and very high pressure inside the watch.
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You're making it more complicated than it need be. He needs to make an exploratory incision to ensure that it's the battery then make a ring of plastic explosive around the cover to blow it off.

Take the watch.
Now trow it as far as you can.
Problem Solved!!!!
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063_XOBX said:
You're making it more complicated than it need be. He needs to make an exploratory incision to ensure that it's the battery then make a ring of plastic explosive around the cover to blow it off.
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Better yet,
Take 10 ml of concentrated hyrochloric acid and drop it on the back of the watch.
This will open the case.
I think.

SleepyKrushna said:
Take the watch.
Now trow it as far as you can.
Problem Solved!!!!
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Better yet,
Take 10 ml of concentrated hyrochloric acid and drop it on the back of the watch.
This will open the case.
I think.
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And risk damaging the internals. No he needs the precision of high explosives.

Black thing on Camera?

Please could someone tell me what this is and how to get rid of it? it just occured today and it's not software fault as I have re-flashed to stock rom and its still the same? I would send it off for repair but I don't know if my warranty is still valid because I've taken off the original screen protector and there is no sony logo
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It looks like dirt on your rug to me
Seriously, the black dot is in the same place on the rug in both images.
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I've tried to wash it of but nothing happens and I Can't even see that when I look on the actual camera sensor so I don't know what it is
EDIT:
Would taking front screen protector off void my warranty?
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So you're saying that there is no dirt on your rug? Look at the images you posted, the black dots are in exactly the same place on the rug in both of them.
If there was a problem with the sensor or lens, surely the black dot would appear in the same place on every image.
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adizntk said:
Please could someone tell me what this is and how to get rid of it? it just occured today and it's not software fault as I have re-flashed to stock rom and its still the same? I would send it off for repair but I don't know if my warranty is still valid because I've taken off the original screen protector and there is no sony logo
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Dust on the inside of your phone over the glass, this has just been reported by someone else, not sure why people keep opening new threads instead of searching, and reading

danw_oz said:
Dust on the inside of your phone over the glass, this has just been reported by someone else, not sure why people keep opening new threads instead of searching, and reading
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Dust moves and gets smaller and larger on it's own? Did you even look at the images in the op?
Edit: Hmmm, another thread in this section seems to suggest that dust will move about inside the lens. Apologies for the argumentative post :beer:
Seems pretty poor for a phone with an IP57 rating as this has never happened to me with any phone I've had and I work in some pretty dirty environments.
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No there is no dirt on it I've cleaned that a million of times and it doesnt help, also when I record a video the dot seems to move, jump up and down even if I dont move but I'm not sure maybe its just my
eyes going funny
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See this thread - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2249697
It must have been a huge coincidence that the mark was in the same place on your rug in both pictures
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I heard that some of the xperia z have this problem, having a black dot inside the lens, so you are not the only one in the world, it's just bad luck. Go back to the store where you get your z, see if you can get an exchange.
If you Google the problem you will find some people also have the same problem with their phones.
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kingvortex said:
Dust moves and gets smaller and larger on it's own? Did you even look at the images in the op?
Edit: Hmmm, another thread in this section seems to suggest that dust will move about inside the lens. Apologies for the argumentative post :beer:
Seems pretty poor for a phone with an IP57 rating as this has never happened to me with any phone I've had and I work in some pretty dirty environments.
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Yep saw the photos, and one is a digital zoom by the looks of it.
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No there is no dirt on it I've cleaned that a million of times and it doesnt help, also when I record a video the dot seems to move, jump up and down even if I dont move but I'm not sure maybe its just my
eyes going funny
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Inside your device, doesn't matter how many times you clean the outside

Thanks for your help guys, I hope I can get that fixed free of charge as I have taken off the front original screen protector but we see how it goes, it's really anoying me that I had it since 28th of february and I didn't have any problems with it and now this happend
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Well its happened to me now. To make things worse, I washed it to see if it helped and now water got in my headphone flap
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When you see black dock means you need to send to service center and claim new one as got people did before.There is no way to fix this problem ,maybe camera had enter some water and spoil that camera.

Definitely dust inside. I've had it, still get it.... Best fix is to give the phone a bang... Seriously. Or try and get out replaced...
Xperia Z

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311497

ooi7766 said:
When you see black dock means you need to send to service center and claim new one as got people did before.There is no way to fix this problem ,maybe camera had enter some water and spoil that camera.
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Bugger. I bought it second hand ages ago so dont think it has warranty.
boyob32 said:
Definitely dust inside. I've had it, still get it.... Best fix is to give the phone a bang... Seriously. Or try and get out replaced...
Xperia Z
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Hmm I'll try that if my phone don't sell by tomorrow on eBay for £250.
Dsteppa said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2311497
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Thanks
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Dirty brown leather back

Anyone wanna trade their black gold or white plastic cover for a dirty (IT guy here and work on dirty environments) brown leather back?

PunishedSnake said:
Anyone wanna trade their black gold or white plastic cover for a dirty (IT guy here and work on dirty environments) brown leather back?
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How dirty? Post pictures? Any physical damage?
Ive got mint gray metallic with newisdom qi nfc sticker.

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That should come off. I work in a fabrication shop and mine looked the same way

dude_itsdevon1 said:
That should come off. I work in a fabrication shop and mine looked the same way
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How?

PunishedSnake said:
Anyone wanna trade their black gold or white plastic cover for a dirty (IT guy here and work on dirty environments) brown leather back?
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Ha! Same situation here. In the IT field and hate when I have to grab my phone after working on some dirty workstations or cabling. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on a plain plastic backplate as well

mad1111 said:
Ha! Same situation here. In the IT field and hate when I have to grab my phone after working on some dirty workstations or cabling. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on a plain plastic backplate as well
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Exactly lol

get some lexol leather cleaner. should work and easy to find at target/walmart/auto store. bonus, works for all leather products, shoes, belts, seats, you name it

lol you took the pic with a tpu on, hard to tell really. Mind taking one with the phone naked?
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mad1111 said:
Ha! Same situation here. In the IT field and hate when I have to grab my phone after working on some dirty workstations or cabling. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on a plain plastic backplate as well
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Post a picture of your naked back, so we can compare.

clockcycle said:
lol you took the pic with a tpu on, hard to tell really. Mind taking one with the phone naked?
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Post a picture of your naked back, so we can compare.
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Here's my leather back...not that dirty. Stitching is a little dark. Only issue is the corners. You can zoom in on the pic and see what I'm talking about.

clockcycle said:
lol you took the pic with a tpu on, hard to tell really. Mind taking one with the phone naked?
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Post a picture of your naked back, so we can compare.
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Sorry that pic shows the dirty better than naked for whatever reason

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Haha the dirt is hiding in the shadows
As long as theres no physical damage to the back, no corners frayed Ill trade.

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It would probably come out better if you took the leather back off and snapped a pic that way :good:

seriously, lexol will clean it off. this is what happens to full grain leather. it tends to absorbs oils and dirt.

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Yours looks decent enough. I am willing to trade ya.
I just took off my goospery tpu which I always keep on it, to take a picture and notice something. Take a look, dust must have gotten in there. I carry my phone in my pocket.
With flash I couldn't really capture it.

Looks good pm me?

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