Hi, im just wondering is there any benefit using a 2amp charger on the htc m8 , faster charging ? i know HTC are gonna release a faster charger which is 1.67amp , is it just the amp or it has some feature Quick Charge 2.0 built in you cant get with other chargers ?
the HTC One is rated to support Quick Charge 2.0 capable of accepting up to 60 watts of power – an increase of almost 100% compared to phones with Quick Charge 1.0. The 1.5amp charger bundled with the HTC One (M8), however, does not support Quick Charge 2.0. HTC is planning on releasing an optional 1.67amp charger accessory that will come with the technology later this year
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Yeah, it will charge a bit faster.
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Yeah, it will charge a bit faster.
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Would it be safe though? Cause I heard someone was using a third party charger on 2.0 and the guy said it was heating up like hell
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Would it be safe though? Cause I heard someone was using a third party charger on 2.0 and the guy said it was heating up like hell
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I've used the 2.0A charger that came with my Galaxy S4 and didn't really notice the phone heating up to unusual temps.
You can use a 10A charger if you have one (and it works with your power outlet), the phone should never draw more than the maximum it draws.
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I would really like to hear from someone who's actually used one with our phone model. Thanks
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I would really like to hear from someone who's actually used one with our phone model. Thanks
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I originally used the charger I got with my M8, but then switched to a 2.5amp charger. According to GSam, my time to charge from around 80% to full is around 15 mins, but with the original charger, it was around 30 mins.
So from my experience, it does charge faster. From what I have read about QC2, the technology is in the processor in the phone. The charger can be any type, as long as it is able to deliver up to 60 watts.
See here - http://www.zdnet.com/qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-offers-75-percent-faster-charging-7000026519/
The tech is actually in both the phone AND the wall charger:
From http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/quick-charge
"While Quick Charge 1.0 rests in the devices only, Quick Charge 2.0 resides in both the device, offered as a standalone IC solution or as part of the PMIC (power management integrated circuit) of Snapdragon™ 800 processors, and in the AC/DC wall charger."
The one you link is worded a little ambiguously:
"Qualcomm hopes to take things further by integrating Quick Charge 2.0 technology into standard micro-USB AC/DC wall chargers. These chargers will look and work like standard chargers, but will be able to deliver Quick Charge to compatible devices."
I tripped on it a couple times when reading it too, but it's implying that the tech does not currently reside in standard chargers, since they're still working on integrating it.
guess i will get the HTC fast charger when out and i bet we should get compatible quick charge 2.0 chargers too
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The amperage of the charger makes no difference, the device will only ever draw the power it requires to charge, no more. so a 5a charger would be no different to a 2a charger if the phone only draws 1.5a for example. find out what the device needs to charge and get as close as you can to that size for protection reasons
uscool said:
Hi, im just wondering is there any benefit using a 2amp charger on the htc m8 , faster charging ? i know HTC are gonna release a faster charger which is 1.67amp , is it just the amp or it has some feature Quick Charge 2.0 built in you cant get with other chargers ?
the HTC One is rated to support Quick Charge 2.0 capable of accepting up to 60 watts of power – an increase of almost 100% compared to phones with Quick Charge 1.0. The 1.5amp charger bundled with the HTC One (M8), however, does not support Quick Charge 2.0. HTC is planning on releasing an optional 1.67amp charger accessory that will come with the technology later this year
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Would it be safe though? Cause I heard someone was using a third party charger on 2.0 and the guy said it was heating up like hell
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Yes, it will charge it faster. I used my 2amp charger and it did charge it faster. The phone may have some protection built in to protect the phones hardware. But the battery can handle much higher charge rates and the battery shouldn't start heating up till 20-30 amps. Yes, that's right.
I use Li-poly to race electric RC's and we charge them up to 50 amps. This charger will --->http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__46368__iCharger_308DUO_1300W_Dual_Channel_8s_Balance_Charger.html
Most people only charge at 5-10 amps, but to get peak performance, you will need to create a bit of heat and that doesn't happen till 20-30 amps.
Since I jumped from my old note 3tothe m8 I was able to keep the charger and it's a 2A one. Will I get the full 2.0 benefits with it or must I wait for the HTC one?
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Since I jumped from my old note 3tothe m8 I was able to keep the charger and it's a 2A one. Will I get the full 2.0 benefits with it or must I wait for the HTC one?
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You will get whatever amp the M8 can take. i assume its 2A
I have a 2amp charger and i use it for my M8. i only see about a 30 min different from using a 1amp charger.
Its not just Amps, quickcharge 2.0 Also bumps up voltage. I tested multiple combinations with my htc one M8, here are my findings:
Quickcharge 2.0 18W Aukey (with regular micro usb cable): 9v/1.1A (~10w)
Quickcharge 2.0 18W Aukey (with data cut off cable): 5v/1.52A (~7.5w)
Wall 5v 2.4A charger: 5v/1.52A (~7.5w)
Stock 5v 1A charger: 5v/0.99A (~5w)
Car 5v 2A charger: 5v/1.3A (~6.5w)
some old 5v 700mA charger: 5v/0.7A (~3.5w)
MacBook Air USB port (2013) (with regular micro usb cable): 5v/500mA (~2.5w)
MacBook Air USB port (2013)(with data cut off cable): 5v/1A (~5w)
Ipad charger rated 5.2V/2.3A : 5v/1A (~5w) (no clue why its so sucky)
Also I noticed m8 once connected to charger (non Quickcharge 2.0) slowly increases charge current. if voltage drops below 4.92v it drops it back to these fixed values, whichever is immediate lower: 3oomA, 500mA, 700mA, 1A, 1.3A, 1.42A. 1.52A
these values are as per multimeters.
my car charger is tricky, it sometimes just falls to 1A instead of 1.3 as it border lines V to 4.92 while at 1.3Amps. (it is rated for 2.4A)
Dude... This thread you replied to is a YEAR old!
This has already been heavily discussed in newer threads.
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Seeing as the M8 supports fast charging, but the charger in the box is the standard 5v/1amp charger, would anyone know if the new Google charger would work for fast charge?
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Charging_Accessory?id=nexus_charging_accessory
It's 9w/1.8amp output. I have one and was thinking of getting an M8 so it's something I could keep to use if I do get one
(If this should be in Q&A please move it, but thought it might be handy for anyone looking for a fast charger from a reputable brand should it work)
EddyOS said:
Seeing as the M8 supports fast charging, but the charger in the box is the standard 5v/1amp charger, would anyone know if the new Google charger would work for fast charge?
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Charging_Accessory?id=nexus_charging_accessory
It's 9w/1.8amp output. I have one and was thinking of getting an M8 so it's something I could keep to use if I do get one
(If this should be in Q&A please move it, but thought it might be handy for anyone looking for a fast charger from a reputable brand should it work)
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This is a great charger for our device and much cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OZMWUS/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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This is a great charger for our device and much cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OZMWUS/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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My M8 was getting very warm using this charger, is yours?
Not that I have noticed but I'll keep an eye out when I get mine back. It does charge everything I own quick as hell though.
They're supposed to be releasing a quick charge 2.0 compatible charger for our device soon that's supposedly is pretty good. I find my phone charges much faster than my DNA as that thing had a slow charge mode that was brutal.
I have a few red band charge only cables that charge the phone fairly quickly.
The charger that came with my htc M8 says 1.5A on the back of it. It charges the phone pretty fast compared to others I have used. I did try to use my samsung charger that is 2.0A but I noticed the phone got warm. Definitely not hot to the touch but enough for me to not really want to ust again and stick to the stock charger.
The charger that came in my box was 1.5A.
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The stock HTC charger is 1.5 amps, or at least the ones in the UK are.
While the phone can take 2 amp charge, by doing so you will heat the battery up much more on each charge, and this extra heat will reduce the charge cycles of the battery(life of the battery), not really the best thing to do on a phone that can't have it's battery replaced.
I've got a 2 amp charger for the car, as when I use that I tend to need power fast, but I have my phone mount on my aircon vent so the phone is kept very cool even if using google maps while fast charging at 2 amps.
How do you tell if a charger has Quick Charge or not?
Apparently the one that comes in the box with the HTC One M8 has Quick Charger 1.0 but I'm looking at the charger now and there is nothing on there to say that it has this feature
I would like to buy another one as a spare to put in a different location to charge without having to take my charger with it but I don't know how to tell if it has it or not before buying it without getting it and actually plugging it in and using it
M8 has quickcharge 2.0 but no 2.0 compliant chargers have been released, the stock charger uses quickcharge 1 technology, HTC is panning to release a qc 2.0 compiant charger later this year.
What's the difference between the Samsung 3.0
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What's the difference between the Samsung 3.0
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What do you mean by Samsung 3.0 :S
You're not talking about USB 3.0 are you?
Then yes the Samsung Galaxy S5 does have USB 3.0
USB 3.0 is just a faster way to transfer data and as far as I'm aware the charging speeds are still the same standard speed
You do need to have a USB 3.0 cable and a supporting device (USB 3.0 port) to utilise it the faster transfer speed
BUT in saying that the Galaxy S5 does have the same chip as the HTC One M8 as far as I'm aware so I would imagine it would have the Quick Charge 2.0 function as well but whether or not the phone has it enabled or comes with a Quick Charger I'm not sure
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Just did some research
Turns out USB 3.0 standard port has a current of 900mA while USB 2.0 is 500mA so the power current on a USB 3.0 has also increased
TieNN89 said:
What do you mean by Samsung 3.0 :S
You're not talking about USB 3.0 are you?
Then yes the Samsung Galaxy S5 does have USB 3.0
USB 3.0 is just a faster way to transfer data and as far as I'm aware the charging speeds are still the same standard speed
You do need to have a USB 3.0 cable and a supporting device (USB 3.0 port) to utilise it the faster transfer speed
BUT in saying that the Galaxy S5 does have the same chip as the HTC One M8 as far as I'm aware so I would imagine it would have the Quick Charge 2.0 function as well but whether or not the phone has it enabled or comes with a Quick Charger I'm not sure
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Turns out USB 3.0 standard port has a current of 900mA while USB 2.0 is 500mA so the power current on a USB 3.0 has also increased
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The Galaxy S5 also has a different charging cable, but can still be used with standard micro usb as well. I was amazed at how fast my gf's phone charged with the stock S5 cable and wall charger.
Can you you use the Samsung charger cable on the htc one. I've tried other chargers and I get the slow charge warning
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Can you you use the Samsung charger cable on the htc one. I've tried other chargers and I get the slow charge warning
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Was thinking the same thing, i tried my S4's charger which has 2amps and it works
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Can you you use the Samsung charger cable on the htc one. I've tried other chargers and I get the slow charge warning
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Not the one with the s5 but any of their earlier cables would fit our M8's.
Hey guys, for the ones that asked I have got the Google nexus fast charger and it is not fantastic. Takes 1,5 hour to charge from 5 to 100%.
I was quite desapointed. This is incredible I can't find any quick charge 2.0 charger anywhere, did someone do ?
The compatible charger must have a qualcomm quick charge logo, they said.
When is htc releasing the 2.0 charger
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Htc will release the charger when they release the charger. Patience.
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Htc will release the charger when they release the charger. Patience.
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agreed, patience is a virtue my friend
Hi guys!
I recently switched from a Samsung galaxy s5 to a nexus 6. It's been more than great, really. Why did I ever buy galaxy phones?!
I'm confused over quick charge 2.0 and compatibility with other chargers and couldn't find any proper information on the subject.
At the moment I own:
- Aukey 5-port 35W Charger
- Tecknet 6-port 50W Charger
- Anker Astro E5 15000mAh battery bank with 2A + 1A ports
- Large assortment of other single port chargers @ 2-2.4A from Samsung, ASUS, and several aftermarket brands.
All of these chargers, and the battery, delivered (tested with the Ampere app and tons of different cables) ~2A to the galaxy but only deliver ~1A to the nexus 6. The Motorola turbo charger obviously works as intended. Now my questions:
- Does quick charge 2.0 limit any non compatible chargers to 1 amp?
- Is there a way to mod chargers to at least get back 2A charging?
- Worst case, does anyone have experience with a recommendable battery bank and multi port chargers that support quick charge 2.0?
Thanks!
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I'm using the franco kernel at the moment and as far as I can tell it doesn't have any options related to charge speeds. I'll look into other kernels.
Thanks for the info!
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@cam30era
I'm using the franco kernel at the moment and as far as I can tell it doesn't have any options related to charge speeds. I'll look into other kernels.
Thanks for the info!
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Welcome.
BTW, there's a button for that...
Jonathan030 said:
@cam30era
I'm using the franco kernel at the moment and as far as I can tell it doesn't have any options related to charge speeds. I'll look into other kernels.
Thanks for the info!
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Why would you need options relating to change charge speeds? Qualcomm quick charger works on any kernel, if you're talking about USB fast charging, it's already enabled in Franco kernel.
There isn't a need to switch to other kernels.
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@zephiK You misunderstood my question. The problem I'm looking to solve is the slow charge rate from the chargers in the original post.
To add to that. My macbook also charged my old galaxy phone @ 2amps but with my n6 only does 500mA.
Nothing wrong with the turbo charger
Jonathan030 said:
@zephiK You misunderstood my question. The problem I'm looking to solve is the slow charge rate from the chargers in the original post.
To add to that. My macbook also charged my old galaxy phone @ 2amps but with my n6 only does 500mA.
Nothing wrong with the turbo charger
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Laptop USB ports at limited to 500mah output unless its a dedicated charging port with USB 3.0 then It can push 1.6A so I don't see how that's possible to charge at 2A from a laptop.
@Pilz this is irrelevant. My 2014 macbook pro charges my old phone much faster than the nexus 6.
Refer to the original post for the topic at hand
Quickcharge 2.0 devices uses the data pin on usb to determine if the charger connected is a quickcharge 2.0 charger. The devices you are using do not have this capability so they charge slower. I do not think this can be changed kernel or phone side.
Thanks! I guess I'll have to replace the chargers/battery
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Here are a few on Amazon.com:
CHOE 6 port home charger with 2 Quick Charge 2.0 ports: $34.99 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBK9M08
CHOE 4 port car charger with 1 Quick Charge 2.0 port: $21.99 - http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00R18XTCA
Aukey Quick Charge 2.0 10000 mAh battery pack: $29.99 - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00UBDI7EC
I haven't tried any of them yet; the car charger arrives tomorrow
Jonathan030 said:
@zephiK You misunderstood my question. The problem I'm looking to solve is the slow charge rate from the chargers in the original post.
To add to that. My macbook also charged my old galaxy phone @ 2amps but with my n6 only does 500mA.
Nothing wrong with the turbo charger
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I could be wrong S5 I looked up uses usb3.0 right? Does your macbook have usb3.0? If so then the usb 3.0 port can supply more current when detected being a usb3.0 device by your computer and ever more so it is possible for the mac to output a little more current. Can you plug in the S5 then open system profiler to look at USB device tree to see current being delivered? The nexus 6 only using usb2.0 would not get the same treatment by the comp and only receive the max standard of .5 A.
There are many details about the actual max current that can be supplied by the computer's ubs port that I don't know when they are applicable I've just stated reading so I'm not sure why you can get 2.0 A on your S5 and not less, since there are standards that set the max current. Even more complicated is that under certain conditions macs have their own heirarchy of supplying more current to some devices if they "say they need" more current and even then there are limitations. So again I'm not sure what is at play exactly, that determines why the S5 gets more than usual. The .5A is normal for current output on USB 2.0 in the nexus6.
I actually got this in the mail yesterday, and the wall chargers works great...Havent have a chance to test out the car one though!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q6LK81I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plus its officially certified by Qualcomm for support 2.0
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@Pilz this is irrelevant. My 2014 macbook pro charges my old phone much faster than the nexus 6.
Refer to the original post for the topic at hand
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That doesn't make sense which is why I went into some detail about laptop or any computers USB ports. I unfortunately had a MB Pro and hated it, and it never charged any of my phone a at 2A including my wife's old S5. I don't have it anymore so I can't test it again to verify. The person I quoted below explained it a little better than I did.
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I could be wrong S5 I looked up uses usb3.0 right? Does your macbook have usb3.0? If so then the usb 3.0 port can supply more current when detected being a usb3.0 device by your computer and ever more so it is possible for the mac to output a little more current. Can you plug in the S5 then open system profiler to look at USB device tree to see current being delivered? The nexus 6 only using usb2.0 would not get the same treatment by the comp and only receive the max standard of .5 A.
There are many details about the actual max current that can be supplied by the computer's ubs port that I don't know when they are applicable I've just stated reading so I'm not sure why you can get 2.0 A on your S5 and not less, since there are standards that set the max current. Even more complicated is that under certain conditions macs have their own heirarchy of supplying more current to some devices if they "say they need" more current and even then there are limitations. So again I'm not sure what is at play exactly, that determines why the S5 gets more than usual. The .5A is normal for current output on USB 2.0 in the nexus6.
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I actually got this in the mail yesterday, and the wall chargers works great...Havent have a chance to test out the car one though!
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00Q6LK81I/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Plus its officially certified by Qualcomm for support 2.0
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Getwow is officially certified? Why, because they're Amazon page says so?
Scroll down close to the bottom to see Qualcomm certified accessories:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
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Getwow is officially certified? Why, because they're Amazon page says so?
Scroll down close to the bottom to see Qualcomm certified accessories:
https://www.qualcomm.com/products/snapdragon/quick-charge
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Those lying bastids! They even stamped Qualcomm 2.0 right on the side lol . Regardless..Wall chargers works as does the car charger, same as the Motorola one
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Those lying bastids! They even stamped Qualcomm 2.0 right on the side lol . Regardless..Wall chargers works as does the car charger, same as the Motorola one
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Qualcomm doesn't post every certified charger on their website. In would email the manufacturer and ask for their certification or a picture of it which most will show you assuming on they're legit.
Jonathan030 said:
Hi guys!
I recently switched from a Samsung galaxy s5 to a nexus 6. It's been more than great, really. Why did I ever buy galaxy phones?!
I'm confused over quick charge 2.0 and compatibility with other chargers and couldn't find any proper information on the subject.
At the moment I own:
- Aukey 5-port 35W Charger
- Tecknet 6-port 50W Charger
- Anker Astro E5 15000mAh battery bank with 2A + 1A ports
- Large assortment of other single port chargers @ 2-2.4A from Samsung, ASUS, and several aftermarket brands.
All of these chargers, and the battery, delivered (tested with the Ampere app and tons of different cables) ~2A to the galaxy but only deliver ~1A to the nexus 6. The Motorola turbo charger obviously works as intended. Now my questions:
- Does quick charge 2.0 limit any non compatible chargers to 1 amp?
- Is there a way to mod chargers to at least get back 2A charging?
- Worst case, does anyone have experience with a recommendable battery bank and multi port chargers that support quick charge 2.0?
Thanks!
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It is technically incorrect for the phone to accept more than 1 amp on a 5v charger. The quick charge *protocol* negotiates a non-standard charge voltage (up to 12 volts!!!). Quick charge is actually BAD FOR YOUR BATTERY! The higher the current, the greater the temperature. The greater the temperature, the lower the battery life.
Unless you *need* it to charge that fast in an emergency, don't.
I've never even plugged in the charger that came with mine, and I don't intend to.
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It is technically incorrect for the phone to accept more than 1 amp on a 5v charger. The quick charge *protocol* negotiates a non-standard charge voltage (up to 12 volts!!!). Quick charge is actually BAD FOR YOUR BATTERY! The higher the current, the greater the temperature. The greater the temperature, the lower the battery life.
Unless you *need* it to charge that fast in an emergency, don't.
I've never even plugged in the charger that came with mine, and I don't intend to.
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I've used QC 2.0 since I bought my phone during long days and my battery life is just fine. My battery is cooler during QC than when using qi charging so I disagree. Generally speaking you're correct, however the battery would need to get hot and stay hot which is doesn't. QC 2.0 tapers off the voltage and current overtime to a more "normal" amount. Your argument is an old and doesn't always pertain unless your phone is constantly hot.
You're battery degrades overtime anyway and any heat could speed that up. I used to live in AZ where it gets to 120+[°F] in the summer which is hotter than my battery ever gets even using QC from 1% battery. Quick charging won't hurt your battery any more than normally charging it will. There is a cut off for the temperature it will let your battery get before it drops voltage or amperage which will work whether the what is from charging or the environment you are in. As I stated above qi charging will make your battery heat up more (in my case it does) I will post screenshots to back that up if you would like.
Lastly no one is expecting a battery to last 1-2 years without losing capacity so why worry about it? Your phone is warrantied for at least 1 year (I have moto care on top of the regular warranty) which will cover any battery issues. There's no need to panic or make an issue out of nothing.
Now can we please let this argument die? I keep seeing it and its getting rather old. Even if it does (which I'm not saying it does) degrade slightly faster its not a big deal for the aforementioned reasons. Let's get back on topic here people
One of the big concerns I had with the proprietary Dash Charging system is whether I'd be able to use previously purchased power banks.
I've been testing my OP3 with the RAVPower 26800mAh powerbank along with the Anker USB-C to USB 2.0 cable.
The powerbank is capable of outputting 2.4a, which produces a quick charge on other devices.
On the OP3, I get between 30 and 57% charge / h (measured using the Battery Monitor Widget app), which is acceptable to me.
It's not Dash Charging speed, but it'll work in case you were wondering.
MI Charger
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
quote from Android central
"For the first time, OnePlus is including a fast charging system on the OnePlus 3. Rather than go with another standard like Qualcomm's Quick Charge, OnePlus made its own "Dash Charge" system. Dash Charge promises a 60% charge on your OnePlus 3 in just 30 minutes, which is just as fast as any other system — the only catch here is you'll have to use the Dash Charger in the box and the included cable.
Your OnePlus 3 will charge just fine off of other chargers — whether they're Quick Charge 3.0, Nexus Rapid Charge or something else — but you just won't get Dash Charge speeds."
I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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Royaledevil said:
I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Seemed like a good choice as outputting 3.6A would be good enough for me. Would you be able to point me a link where to purchase it from? Many thanks.
are you sure the 3.6a isnt a maximum of all the ports on the bank?
usually if they have multiple ports they say a maximum load for all being X, but I've only ever seen a maximum amperage of 2.4a on a port (few and far between) most 2.1a as stated per port.
even then they charge my OP3 at 1.2a using oneplus's cable, same as my s5 beforehand.
there is a great app on the store called Ampere which tells you your current charging/discharging amps
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I have the oneplus power bank, I'll see how it charges using the cable that came with the phone.
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and ?? whats the verdict ?
It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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I have a MI 16,000 mAh portable charger with an output of 3.6A. I am getting a pretty awesome speed on 1 min per percent charge. After charge battery drain is lower compared dash charger.
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Link to that powerbank please
Framedtrash said:
It's never going to charge faster then 2amp on any ordinary charger or battery pack
If you want fast charging u need to use a dash charger
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Check my post on another thread,
You can use OPPO VOOC Powerbank,
It charge as fast as at least 3.5A
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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Hastaloego said:
and ?? whats the verdict ?
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Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
Framedtrash said:
It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger
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No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
OP3 is only able to charge at 1.5A max with everything except the dash charger and cable, from my tests.
BoiBundy said:
No offense but this is a flawed theory, did you forget what site you're on? That's what development is for, to boldy go where no one has gone before, so contrary to your belief, I'm sure its possible, can and will happen.
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No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
crzykiller said:
No it is not a flawed theory. The phone does not have the quick charging components in the phone but instead in the charger and cable. Only VOOC and DASH chargers will quick charge this phone. It's not theory it's fact. Anyways fast charging does deteriorate the battery a bit faster than normal charging so it's not good to use it all the time
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Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
What's the easiest way to test what amperage a non-Dash charger is charging at? I'm curious to know if some of my Quick Charge adapters will provide 2.4A. I've only done a very brief test with my QC3 car charger, but it gave me 3% in about 4 minutes. That's about what I was getting on a QC2.0 phone, and that's perfectly acceptable in my books.
BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Huh? that's my first comment lol and VOOC and DASH are exactly the same technology and have their specific patent. As far as I know, it will only charge with those specific chargers since it is not only the charging brick holding some proprietary charging solution but also the cable. I have a USB-C cable that can withstand over 4A but will not work even when plugged to the DASH charger. Now yes there may be a charger that quick charges this phone but it'd be very unlikely that it does exist since the cable and brick would have to have the exact specifications as the DASH/VOOC chargers.
BoiBundy said:
Here's what you wrote: "It would not be charging at 3+amp
Unless your using a dash charger your never going to be able to charge over 2amp using any other charger
Doesnt matter what the output of the charger/battery pack is the phone will never take more then 2amp unless its a dash charger"
You said with conviction that "the phone will 'NEVER' take more [than] 2 amp unless its a dash charger"
The VOOC charger is in fact 'not' a dash charger and it charges above 2 amps. So very simply, your postulation is wrong. I took notice that you quickly changed your stance but forgot how convinced you seemed to be.
All of this leads me to believe that there are other chargers even beyond the VOOc and the Dash that can/will fast charge the One plus 3
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Haha
As stated VOOC and DASH are the exact same thing, VOOC was created by OPPO and the rebranded by oneplus
No amount of software is going to change a hardware limitation
I guess your going to tell me that a dev is going to release a software patch that restores the headphone jack on a iPhone
Download ampere from the playstore if you want to get a rough idea of what your device is charging at
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fp1707 said:
Same question, if he doesn't answer. I'm gonna have to test it out when I get my OnePlus 3 package. On 23rd September. @superbrowndude please give us result
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Same question. Really interested in the Oneplus Power Bank charging results. Please.
This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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This is something i haven't seen mentioned or confirmed in all the reviews i have read. I have read reviews of other xiaomi devices that said it was qc 3.0 enabled, but the charger that ships with the phone is not a quick charger and the user would have to buy their own to take advantage of this feature.
so does anyone know if the charger we receive with the mix is in fact a quick charger as the mi mix is on the devices that is qualcomm quick charge 3.0 enabled.
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Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
audscott said:
Check features: http://www.gsmarena.com/xiaomi_mi_mix-8400.php
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yes, as i posted i am well aware the phone is quick charge 3.0 capable. my question though is the charger that ships with the phone a quick charge charger. there are other xiaomi phones that are also quick charge but the user has to provide their own quick charger.
if i were to guess i do not think this charger is a quick charger based on my results compared to my nexus 6.
wu5262 said:
That site quoted 83% in 30mins, I am not getting that, not even close. I bought the anker USB C quick charge charger which suppose to be quick. I don't feel quick at all...
Anyone also bought charger that can comment on this?
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I got an Aukey QC3 5-Port Charger.
I'm trying to get my device empty right now (tough though as it lasts pretty long) and will test it afterwards.
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I compared the included charger with my Anker quick charge 3 charger using the Ampere app.
The given stats were marginally better with the included charger.
I'm not really sure what all the figures mean but they were there or there abouts the same, the Anker charger is Qualcom QC3 certified.
Not nearly getting the quoted charge times though with either charger.
At 53% it claimed 44 mins to 100%
Yes, it ships with a fast charger. It delivers:
5V - 2.5A (12,5W)
9V - 2A (18W)
12V - 1.5A (18W)
So yes, it's a QC2.0 fast charger.
I'm currently at 69% and on the normal charger it's 3 hours+, on the QC2.0 charger I have, it's 1.5 hours and it gave me the same for the included charger. Kind of disappointed that it's only 2.0.
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
knives of ice said:
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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Which one? Link?
Thugsin313 said:
Which one? Link?
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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M11UT3V/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s02?ie=UTF8&psc=1
with a case you don't even know it is there.
Thx for the Link:good:
Yes BUT!!!... lol
knives of ice said:
after seeing how insane the battery life is on this phone i just went with the qi wireless charging usb C adapter and I have no plans on going back, works awesome.
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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What I dislike, and you can't use is the Wireless Charging with your phone and case, and a metal plate stuck to the back of the phone. You see, I really like the various magnetic holders in the car (I have one that works with the CD Slot of the vehicle to mount the holder, another that is a little ball mount that sticks to any flat service). They use a thin metal plate to mount to the back of the phone case, and the magnetic is part of the phone mount that is in the vehicle. If you place the phone with the holder and the metal plate on the wireless charger base, it will overheat both the charging base and the phone.
I REALLY like the magnetic phone mount, and do like wireless charging but it a moot point if you have a mounting plate on the back of your phone or case.
I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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get a Pioneer Appradio that mirrors your phones screen and problem solved. now that i'm so used to it i can't imagine my phone's screen not being the screen of the head unit in my car everything is right there makes it so much easier
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I am using amperage and I own two qualcom version 2.0 chargers one from my Nexus 6, and one I bought on amazon. The OEM Nexus 6 draws about 1.6amps on charge, and the Anker 2.0 draws under 300 mAH. The computer 3.0 USB port from a desktop draws 370mAH to charge the phone.
I will probably invest in a true oem qualcom 3.0 charger.
Pretty cheap of Shomi to not include a 3.0 charger
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I'm revising my previous post, it seems that the provided charger may indeed be a QC 3.0.
I've been reading that if you use USB-c to USB-c cable instead of the provided USB-a to USB-c cable, you actually get charge rate.
I've also been reading up on the QC 3.0 vs 2.0. Both will max out at 18watts. But 3.0 has a variable voltage whereas 2.0 is fixed at 5V, 9V and 12V. You can see that in the below link, there's a nice table of Watts for each QC.
http://www.androidauthority.com/quick-charge-3-0-explained-643053/
However with USB-C to USB-C, it can charge at full 29Watts. That's a huge difference.
you can see that in the description provided by Anker here
https://www.amazon.com/Anker-Type-C-Delivery-Charger-PowerPort/dp/B01D8C6ULO
You can also see here in this device
https://www.amazon.com/Lumsing-Charge-Charger-Foldable-Macbook/dp/B01I1OIO4A
it says 48W of power, and allocates 19W for QC 3.0 which means the other Type-C port is allocated for 29Watts.
So I think I'm going to be looking for something with a direct USB-C port as a charger.
Certainly, this may be all for not if the Xiaomi Mi Mix is limited to 18W of input anyways.
I have the Anker USB-C to USB-C charger, my initial testing indicate that the original charger (China Plug) and my Samsung Galaxy S6 Edge charger (UK Plug) are capable of doing 23.8 Watts max, i tried to monitor the difference and what I noticed is the Mi Mix original charger seems to be adjusting the charging power more often (not really sure why and whether it's good). My Anker USB-C to USB-C went up to 28.9 Watts Max. All chargers seems to scale down their charging rate after battery reach 80%+ so I think the best way to test is to empty the better and start from 0%. I doubt I will be doing that test though as it's quite hard to empty battery on Mix and I am pretty happy with my Anker charger so don't think I will be using Stock one or my Samsung one.
Unless I go on holiday with multiple devices that still use old USB port, Anker USB-C to USB-C is my go to charger.
So I think what you confirmed was that the mix can take power at 29 watts.
That's good to know.
Just received this wireless charging receiver today that claims to do fast charge
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LX0Y5CS/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
it does charge much faster, almost double of the one i posted originally in this thread. i'm getting a charge on it around 950ma which isn't too bad for wireless i don't think.
Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
LaNsLyDe said:
Is there an app I can use to see if this phone is quick charging ? I have a Google pixel charger USB c to USB c. Trying that out now .I can't really judge because this phone is at least 1000 mAh bigger than what I'm used to lol.
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That's what I'm using too! I was at 24% battery, went to sleep for 4 hours with it charging, and I'm only at 74%. There has to be a way to know when we quick charge lol
I have an old quick charge 2.0 car and wall charger. I know they won't work with dash but I'm just double checking to make sure they're safe and won't damage my OP3T. Seeing as how the phone accepts 4a (I think) I'm pretty sure 2.4 in will be fine. Thanks in advance!
same Q, I have a QC 2.0 and normal charger, not sure if putting 2.0 or normal charge apart from the dash charge?
It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.
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It's be ok to use lower rated charger (lower amperes). Any charger that is rated 4.0A and below should be fine. The most important thing is your usb cable should support the amps it is transferring. Make sure they are rated 2.0A and above.
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What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?
rockmaster said:
What if it's not? Because I'm using Aukey 2.0 but I don't use embedded cable from them, just a regular Chinese one, but I still see the speed maintains. Is it going to be damaged?
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If I am not mistaken, most of the newer usb cables are rated at 2.1-2.4A for charging. But if you want to be safe I would suggest you take notice of what the cables are rated at. For me personally, I always follow the rules of not using lower rated cables on higher rated input.
Any high quality charger will work just fine with OnePlus, although Dash Charge will turn on ONLY will OnePlus/OPPO dash charger and official USB cable. So you are limited to lower (non dash charge) speed.
QC 1/2/3, Turbo charge, Super charge, Dash charge.. adapters are safe to use with any phone, fast charging will not engage if the phone doesnt support it.
I recommend checking this spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wJwqv3rTNmORXz-XJsQaXK1dl8I91V4-eP_sfNVNzbA/edit#gid=0
Cool beans, sounds like I'm good to go. I'm using whatever cable the charger came with and a USB C adapter from Aukey. Works just fine! Not really too concerned about dash charge since it's sitting bedside or in the car for road trips. Thanks!
so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge
karthics4 said:
so just curious if i use a regular quick charge charger it will charge but at lower rate then dash charge
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Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.
I use my 6 ft Nexus 6P charger as my primary and in my car I have my iOrange cable with a Maxboost 2.0 & 2.4 car charger
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trentonite said:
Yep. The only way to get dash charge is to have a dash charger and a OPO cable. They do the conversion in the charger and push 4a to the phone vs quick charge which depends on the phone to do the step up. You'll basically be charging at 2.4a or whatever your quick charge puts out.
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Thanks so much, had been w android for years, might go otherside and get iphone as i see a lot at work. i just feel left out. but then i think of the deadly iphone not charging due to 3rd party cable mesage which pops up and then wanna stay w andorid