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Hey guys I've never seen why sense or motoblur or other types of overlays of android get the more interactive widgets. I mean froyo gave us some tips And considering that the Gingerbread update expected later this year is supposed to be aimed toward the users interaction with the software (as in google music) do you think we will also be seeing new widgets, that at least scroll , aimed at the user or something to that effect?
As in a contact or bookmark type thing like sense ui or especially some sort of messaging widget or do you think google would just do this through the market like an app for a widget? considering their new idea of ota updates is supposedly coming through the market instead (or even leave it up to the market and developers?)
Just wondering if anyone else is thinking about this as well...I think it would be nifty.
I think gingerbread is going to completely change Android. Probably a combo of the Palm cards.
I'm seriously anticipating Gingerbread and hoping that it is a complete revamping however keeping the Android we know and love...I'm afraid to get too hype though, as I don't want to be let down at all.
Do you think the nexus will receive gingerbread 3.0?
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Do you think the nexus will receive gingerbread 3.0?
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Why wouldn't Google update their developer phone to the latest version? If you are worried over a N2 or something, Gingerbread is supposed to be out late this year, IF they release an N2 it will be in January at the earliest, and even then they will still support the N1 since it's nowhere close to being obsolete
Now that ROMs are being built from the Nexus 5 4.4 source, what are your impressions on the update?
Also, please specify if you're using the OTA update or a Nexus 5 4.4 variant because the performance on both can depend greatly on it.
Anyway, my impressions:
Nexus 5 4.4 AOSP build:
+ The no black bars in the status bar and nav bar when in the homescreen is pretty nice looking
+ Homescreen with the Google Now stuff looks pretty good too
+ The clock doesn't look ugly anymore now that Google got rid of the bolded font
+ I like showing more information about battery drain from apps that use location
+ Bigger focus on Google Now.
+ It looks like more control on Google Now too like adding reminders and easier to modify preferences.
+ Easier and more apparent way to open Google Now and Camera from the lockscreen
+ Easier to choose a default Launcher now that it's in the Settings
- The white font when not in the homescreen (the black bars return) make apps look really plain and bland.
- Moving to neutral colours for other apps like the Keyboard make it looks plain as well
- I'm not really liking the changed Roboto font
- Tougher to add screens and widgets
- Dialer's design is all over the place. It has a new interface but then it looks the same when calling someone. Can't comment on the Yellow Pages thing since I think it's not working on this build.
- The app drawer icons are way too big and since some icons weren't made with such a high resolution, the consistency seems off.
I can't comment on the NFC part because it didn't seem to work on this build.
Anyway, yeah, the bland, grey colours are really bothering me. It looks very soul-less but I think I just need to get used to it.
Flashing another 4.4 rom now and see if that's better
There is an entire thread for discussing 4.4..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2486641
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There is an entire thread for discussing 4.4..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2507423
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Yes, I know but I thought it would be good to have a separate thread for impressions considering that thread started off as a speculation thread. And now that it's out, impressions from users using Kitkat would be beneficial for people looking for information about Kitkat
Am I the only one that is disappointed? The changes are minor. Nothing big.
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Orry520 said:
Am I the only one that is disappointed? The changes are minor. Nothing big.
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this is it..i myself didn't have much expectation.. kit-kat wasn't a Major Upgrade..actually (and unfortunately)
from android 4_4.4 there's no big improvement.. i think android 5 will be the real upgrade..
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this is it..i myself didn't have much expectation.. kit-kat wasn't a Major Upgrade..actually (and unfortunately)
from android 4_4.4 there's no big improvement.. i think android 5 will be the real upgrade..
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Have you ran it long enough to notice battery life is great compared to 4.3?
Google now integrated into the launcher?
Performance is same as 4.3 and has no optimizations as of yet?
Transitions are very smooth.
Overall this is a great upgrade from 4.3, most people are just not looking at the right parts of the ROM to notice it is greater.
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Not enough changes, this that...what you want? A hologram hooker that says suckysucky $5..its 2013 not 2023
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"Also, please specify if you're using the OTA update or a Nexus 5 4.4 variant"? There is no OTA for now.
What are the odds we get touchboost fixed?
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The performance is very good, it benchmark better than stock 4.3 for me. The interaction response doesn't change, but it try to make the transition smoother like with iOS. Overall a very good update, visibly it has more to do with gapps integration. I think it persuade me to stick with the Nexus 4 instead of upgrading right now.
If you don't think there are enough change, stay with 4.3, don't update to 4.4.
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Actually it's the other way around, the launcher is integrated into Google Now.
I found a hidden feature. Say "ok, NSA" and it will do all sort's of things you'll never know =)
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I really wish the lock screen had the transparent nav and status bars too, looks so silly when they disappear without so much as a fade animation when the phone is unlocked
Say.."bombs away nsa".. You get to watch live drone strikes in Afghanistan, don't worry about watching shoeless peasents being killed because there will be reassuring propaganda adverts before and after assuring you that it's helping women and children in Muslim countries.
Comparing 4.4 with 4.3 right now is stupid, we don't even have the updated binaries yet... judge it when its complete, not while it must still be considered a hackjob (and calling it that is not an attempt to diminish the efforts of the people who built the ROM with the older binaries).
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Comparing 4.4 with 4.3 right now is stupid, we don't even have the updated binaries yet... judge it when its complete, not while it must still be considered a hackjob (and calling it that is not an attempt to diminish the efforts of the people who built the ROM with the older binaries).
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i was just about to write the same thing, thanks
my battery life is worse than 4.3 but I'm guessing its because of a poorly built because not all sources have been released yet.
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my battery life is worse than 4.3 but I'm guessing its because of a poorly built because not all sources have been released yet.
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Once you're using an official 4.4 build you'll find the opposite is true. Right now all people are using is a mocked up 4.4 using the 3.4 kernel. After some research many people claim that the 3.4 kernel is the worst power efficient version in recent history...An official 4.4 build uses either 3.8 or 3.10 if I'm not mistaken.
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Once you're using an official 4.4 build you'll find the opposite is true. Right now all people are using is a mocked up 4.4 using the 3.4 kernel. After some research many people claim that the 3.4 kernel is the worst power efficient version in recent history...An official 4.4 build uses either 3.8 or 3.10 if I'm not mistaken.
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So can we use 4.3 Kernels with these early builds?
You know I see slot of speculation on an update that is not even released yet for this device. No kernel, no binaries, no nothing at all. Yet people complain.
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iOS 7 was released on September 18, 2013.
7.0.1 came out September 19.
7.0.2 came out September 26.
7.0.3 came out October 22.
7.0.4 came out November 14.
That's 4 updates in 2 months. Three in the (approximately) first month.
KitKat came out October 31. No updates so far, over a month in.
I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
A couple of those updates were for security issues that HAD to be updated quickly, considering the bad press they were getting.
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A couple of those updates were for security issues that HAD to be updated quickly, considering the bad press they were getting.
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^Sums it up, it'd be a big deal if they were major updates like 7.1.x etc. but like @speedyink said they were just security patches
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I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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We don't always get what we want.
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iOS 7 was released on September 18, 2013.
7.0.1 came out September 19.
7.0.2 came out September 26.
7.0.3 came out October 22.
7.0.4 came out November 14.
That's 4 updates in 2 months. Three in the (approximately) first month.
KitKat came out October 31. No updates so far, over a month in.
I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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i dont get these android vs ios threads. if your unhappy, go back to ios then. you dont need to keep looking for reasons.
Google does it this way because it works for them, i honestly dont see a problem with it. whatever bugs that are on stock are usually fixed on a custom rom. Try doing that with an iphone
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Whatever bugs that are on stock are usually fixed on a custom rom. Try doing that with an iphone.
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Not trying to hate on custom roms, but most of them have their own bugs and are not for the everyday user. Some might say the N5 is developer phone but it works on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile and I know Sprint is selling it on contract to average users.
The main issue with the N5 is obviously the camera. I can't even use some apps anymore and the camera breaks to a green screen while using those apps. I know the fix is coming, but it's kinda annoying to have to reboot my phone every 30 minutes to be able to send snapchats or use the camera again. Also hearing so many stories about people returning an otherwise great phone because they cant get the camera to work. So I guess I semi-agree with the OP that Google needs to fix some things now, but can also understand why they haven't yet.
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if your unhappy, go back to ios then. you dont need to keep looking for reasons.
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I think all he was trying to say was that he wished Google was a tiny tiny little bit like Apple sometimes. If this was the IPhone 5 they would be getting murdered by the media. Not necessarily unhappy with the phone or Google's services, just patiently waiting for a fix on a few crucial things.
Updates will come when they're ready. I know I don't want an update for the sake of getting a update. Too many times I've seen stuff rushed to fix something and break many other things.
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Not trying to hate on custom roms, but most of them have their own bugs and are not for the everyday user. Some might say the N5 is developer phone but it works on Sprint, AT&T and T-Mobile and I know Sprint is selling it on contract to average users.
The main issue with the N5 is obviously the camera. I can't even use some apps anymore and the camera breaks to a green screen while using those apps. I know the fix is coming, but it's kinda annoying to have to reboot my phone every 30 minutes to be able to send snapchats or use the camera again. Also hearing so many stories about people returning an otherwise great phone because they cant get the camera to work. So I guess I semi-agree with the OP that Google needs to fix some things now, but can also understand why they haven't yet.
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Bro, that's an example of something you don't say here at XDA. "Most of them have their own bugs" well duh! It's been about a month and ROMs take a few months to iron out all the issues. But when that stable or RC CM/AOKP/Beanstalk/Slim build comes out, there's no complaining. Simply good features and good speed. :victory:
Why shouldn't Google market it as a good smartphone for the average user? Just because it's a Nexus doesn't mean its destiny belongs at XDA...it's got good speed, stability, features and screen. What else could you wish for at the price of $349/399 or $450 on carrier?
It's not like iOS 7 was good upon release. You wanna see the lag on my iPad Mini that wasn't fixed until 7.0.3? Bro, there's no reason that they should be releasing anything that lags that hard on a major device that still constituted a major part of their lineup at ios7 release; simply unacceptable. The updates were methods of solving problems such as lag (it's much better now with Reduce Motion and Increase Contrast).
You're an XDA user man. Look around for a fix, don't just sit there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
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I understand that you might respond, "well iOS needs so many updates because it has so many bugs." And that might be true. But unquestionably, KitKat has some things that could be adjusted (at a minimum, it'd be nice if they tweaked the volume a little bit on the N5). And surely there are various bugs that could be fixed.
Is this pretty typical? I can't help but wonder why Google takes so long to push out updates, even if they are minor. I'd rather get a couple of minor updates over the course of a month or two than to have to wait 3 or 4 months for a single, bigger update.
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A software update won't magically melt the extra glue in your N5. It was already determined that speaker sound required a hardware modification. There is a fix for volume on the N5 already, I think Google is aware of this and might put it in 4.4.1.
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Bro, that's an example of something you don't say here at XDA. "Most of them have their own bugs" well duh! It's been about a month and ROMs take a few months to iron out all the issues. But when that stable or RC CM/AOKP/Beanstalk/Slim build comes out, there's no complaining. Simply good features and good speed. :victory:
Why shouldn't Google market it as a good smartphone for the average user? Just because it's a Nexus doesn't mean its destiny belongs at XDA...it's got good speed, stability, features and screen. What else could you wish for at the price of $349/399 or $450 on carrier?
It's not like iOS 7 was good upon release. You wanna see the lag on my iPad Mini that wasn't fixed until 7.0.3? Bro, there's no reason that they should be releasing anything that lags that hard on a major device that still constituted a major part of their lineup at ios7 release; simply unacceptable. The updates were methods of solving problems such as lag (it's much better now with Reduce Motion and Increase Contrast).
You're an XDA user man. Look around for a fix, don't just sit there. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2516061
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1) I didn't say custom roms don't get the bugs iron out i've been rooting/flashing for 4-5 years now and have used some amazing roms. I said they were not for the everyday user and if you don't know what you are doing it can be a hassle.
2) A lot of people argue that the Nexus 5 is a developer phone. I didn't say it was destined for XDA I almost said the exact opposite since average users are buying it.
3) Never said IOS 7 was good/bad nor have I ever used IOS. In your comparison though, lag vs. the entire camera not functioning.
4) I know how to search im just more of a lurker... and I've used that camera app before. The problem is not the quality of the image/camera and that is what that app is aiming to fix. I actually think the N5 is able to take great pictures in most situations. The problem with the camera is that while using apps that utilize the nexus's camera it will become unusable giving you a black/green screen with noise making the camera unusable until you reboot the phone.
I know the camera issue does not affect many users who do not use apps like snap-chat and a few others (or I think using face-unlock will also trigger this) but a lot of less tech savvy have been returning the phone thinking it doesn't function properly. For tech savvy users like us we know the new camera API is coming and can wait it out.
Also, they are exclusively featuring camera on the N5 in all of the commercials I have seen.
Funny story to go with this also. My GF suggested that I need to get a new phone since snap-chat doesn't work anymore... I just sort of laughed and said no way! But just thought it was an interesting perspective.
So who are these people returning their nexus 5 because of the camera? Are they in the n5 v g2 thread?
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I'm going to stop reading the general forum, all i see is people whining about this or that.
If you're not satisfied just return your device and get anything else.
To get back on topic, most of us don't give a flying F* about iOS around here
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All you are saying in the op is that Apple release sh1t software that needs fixing more than Google
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The nexus series is geared towards development end of story
I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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Shoopz said:
I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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I actually get that issue quite often. Occasionally its just a black screen and gives a camera error. Doesn't fix itself until the phones restarted. Stock / Rooted.
There are FAR more iOS 7 users than there are Android 4.4 users. When 400 million iOS 7 users have an issue—92% of all iOS users out there—a lot of people are affected. When 1 million Android 4.4 users have an issue—1% of all Android users out there—this is a very tiny portion of the Android ecosystem and Google does not feel they need to resolve issues timely. You can blame Google and the entire Android ecosystem for this.
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I'm going to stop reading the general forum, all i see is people whining about this or that.
If you're not satisfied just return your device and get anything else.
To get back on topic, most of us don't give a flying F* about iOS around here
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Not whining and I didn't say that i'm unhappy with the device or want to return it if that was directed towards me, just saying Google needs to fix a few things.
Advertising the Camera -
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ0XTJqFLIE
Camera Problems -
http://www.reddit.com/r/Nexus5/comments/1rcc1f/issue_with_camera_crashing_on_nexus_5_running/
Camera Problems Confirmed -
https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=61873#c79
And like I said the issue has been confirmed most of us are just waiting on them to rollout the update.
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I use snap chat every day many times a day and I do not have this green problem you speak of
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What rom do you have flashed?
They need to get an update for the n5 quick, to fix the 'bog roll' quality speaker which somehow manages to vibrate the phone more than the actual vibrator does.
There is a 4.4.1 update rolling out shortly. No link, but easily googled.
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It should probably be mentioned that Google have decoupled several apps from the core OS that in iOS would require an OS "update".
For example, Chrome is now a separate update whereas Safari in iOS is not. If security updates to the browser are required, Google just updates Chrome in the Play store, whereas Apple would release an OS "update" which may in reality only affect the browser.
I'm not saying that is always going to be the case, but it may explain some of the timing "differences".
EDIT: Here's a good example, from the iOS 7.0.4 update:
Bug fixes and improvements, including a fix for an issue that causes FaceTime calls to fail for some users.
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The Android equivalent of a Facetime fix would likely just be a new version of Hangouts on Play.
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Can't wait for I/O this year it's gonna be sweet and really wanna see more about Android wear get a new smartwatch to replace my current Sony POS <.<
Although I can't see them releasing 4.5 this year at I/O let alone moving to another "named" release. but that's just me i'm not expecting it.
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Can't wait for I/O this year it's gonna be sweet and really wanna see more about Android wear get a new smartwatch to replace my current Sony POS <.<
Although I can't see them releasing 4.5 this year at I/O let alone moving to another "named" release. but that's just me i'm not expecting it.
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4.5 KitKat maybe, but not another name change. This seems like major update stuff, 5.0, which most likely won't happen at IO.
Something may be coming however. Google voice is being merged with hangouts next month, so maybe there will a few extra goodies to come along with it.
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Doubtful there will be an Nexus 6 either - As I have pointed out elsewhere, Nexus 6 name belongs to "Phillip K. ****" and his estate as far as I am aware.
I'm inclined to agree with others that there won't be a major Android name change, however I expect the Nexus 7 and possibly an Nexus 10(11?) also.
Please don't copy/paste stuff you found on the internet and post it here as if it's yours.
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I completely understand why Google did this but one thing I liked about the N5 was how it had features other phones didn't. One big one just went bye-bye. http://gigaom.com/2014/08/01/the-go...ailable-for-almost-all-modern-android-phones/
GNL has been available for other devices for a while now.
The apk has been floating around the web since the N5 was released or shortly there after.
I still think the nexus line of devices are still very unique in that they get the fastest updates and developer support is second to none!
If there is a particular developer's work you like to follow, make sure to support him/her to show them your appreciation! :thumbup:
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Agreed with giant22000. N5 is best
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Agreed with giant22000. N5 is best
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Don't get me wrong, I love the N5 and have been nothing but pleased with it since I got mine. I liked the fact that I had a launcher that others did not and could not have without going out of the way to get it. Now it is much easier to install for users and I would expect it to pop up more in the wild than previously seen.
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Don't get me wrong, I love the N5 and have been nothing but pleased with it since I got mine. I liked the fact that I had a launcher that others did not and could not have without going out of the way to get it. Now it is much easier to install for users and I would expect it to pop up more in the wild than previously seen.
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I felt like that with the new google camera. I thought they were just going to update it for the N5 but they ended up releasing it for a lot of phones. However, maybe that will speed up new updates for it since it's not just for one phone.
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I felt like that with the new google camera. I thought they were just going to update it for the N5 but they ended up releasing it for a lot of phones. However, maybe that will speed up new updates for it since it's not just for one phone.
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Only the Nexus 5 can use "HDR+" (HDR isn't anywhere near the same as "HDR+"), which is closed source (and also limited to Google Camera).
This has been available for a while now. I was running it on my Galaxy Nexus back in the day and, when it hit Google Play, many GPE devices were able to install it too. Now it’s even available on a lowly iPhone (some more detail at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Now).
I'll file this thread under "slow news day."
Honestly I hardly ever used the GNL
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Only the Nexus 5 can use "HDR+" (HDR isn't anywhere near the same as "HDR+"), which is closed source (and also limited to Google Camera).
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Yeah good point. I mean I'm over it now lol. I remember being a bit upset about the lens blur. Even though a lot of cameras have that feature already.
The launcher is by far the furthest thing from making the Nexus 5 what it is.
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The launcher is by far the furthest thing from making the Nexus 5 what it is.
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This. I actually don't like it at all. Nova all the way.
I hated the exclusive feature of GEL or GNL whatever it's called. Let it be open to all(without side loading)
Why are you upset that others have the option of the launcher ... Sorry but that seems childish
O.T. Less unique is also impossible. Something is either unique or not. There is no halfway.
You bought a phone with unlimited customization capabilities and you whine that the stock launcher for it, the phone that is the DEVELOPMENT device, for the entire Android ecosystem, has been made available to other Android devices?
First World Privilege Problems?
Kids these days...
The nexus series is always unique as it always gets the latest & the greatest android. Google had no plan of making the launcher a nexus 5 only thing. Even in the worst case, I'm sure Google would have at least supported the launcher on the older nexus phones officially. All of it was a part of Google's plan. First they saw how people received the launcher on the nexus 5. Following all the hype, they eventually made it available to all the devices out there.
Remember, Google's primary aim is to make all of its services available to all of its users. That's why they built android. They used android to reach their users & to make their services available to them easily & efficiently.
This really only applies to most of us that mod or like to customize our phones. IMO those people probably already use GOOGLE NOW Launcher anyways on whatever custom ROM they are running. I really dont see how this makes the phone less unique. Apps are not unique, the actual phone is what makes it unique than other phones on the market.
my 2 cents