Hello.
Im abit new to the forum but here goes.
Ive read tons of posts everywhere and there aint any exact answers anywhere to find.
In the past ive never known about the TA and DRM so happy as i am i just unlocked the bootloader on all the phones and still happy. The latest phone is the Xperia Z1. It has been abit buggy to say the least but im hoping software updates will cure this.
Anyway, i rooted my phone and unlocked the bootloader on the .681 firmware and now i am on .757 firmware. Using Doomlords kernel. I thought id check if i could backup my TA partition after unlocking the bootloader. And from what ive read its suppose to be wiped when you unlock the bootloader.
Well it was no problem backing up the TA partion. All files were there and it came out with no errors. So the question, how is this possible ?
I posted this same thing in General, sorry for that but i posted it here now so if a moderator finds this post in general then please delete it.
/Jonas740
If you Unlocked your Bootloader without Backup TA (DRM keys) first, then your DRM Keys are lost forever and you can Backup TA how much you want but there is no DRM Keys at all. The application to Backup TA do not give errors because you can backup partitions with or without DRM Keys, in the case you want switch between Locked and Unlocked Bootloader.
So long story short, you don't have DRM Keys, your warranty is lost forever, you cannot Update via OTA,PC Companion or SUS.
eclyptos said:
If you Unlocked your Bootloader without Backup TA (DRM keys) first, then your DRM Keys are lost forever and you can Backup TA how much you want but there is no DRM Keys at all. The application to Backup TA do not give errors because you can backup partitions with or without DRM Keys, in the case you want switch between Locked and Unlocked Bootloader.
So long story short, you don't have DRM Keys, your warranty is lost forever, you cannot Update via OTA,PC Companion or SUS.
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The one time I had to use my warranty there was no problem with missing TA.
So there is hope for people without it
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HellRoot said:
The one time I had to use my warranty there was no problem with missing TA.
So there is hope for people without it
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dunno if the previous author saw what i wrote in my post but when i relocked my Xperia V using flashtool i could update with the pc companion or sony update or whats it called nowdays
And funny thing is, i actually have a case at Sony about this phone since i do have some issues with it but i think thats software related since ppl have been getting all sorts of errors from the KitKat firmwares. But i said how it was that i have unlocked bootloader and all that and she replied that my warranty was still valid and i could send it in for them to test it.
And i need to say this. Since sony posts an official way on their webpage, for ANYONE to read about how to unlock the bootloader and they also supply the code for unlocking it. Then i think it shouldnt affect the phone in any way or brake the warranty. (Sure it does say something about that, but all aint reading stuff like that). So if a developer wanted to unlock the phone. Why not have them contacting sony instead.
And surley, DRM keys (i just think sony shouldnt even bother having them) can be put back in if you let Sony do it. They put it there in the first place you know. And in the lovely electronic world we live in we all know that, if Sony can put thoose there, anyone could do it with the knowhow. But since the keys dont really mean anything, not that ive noticed you could really think about what use they actually do. And Sony knows that if ppl cant have the phone it was meant to be even with a unlocked bootloader, they will probably get some other phone or just whine hard enough so that Sony makes a software where everything works the same way with locked or unlocked. Camera stopped to work if you unlocked before 4.3 right ? What can you read about that like everywhere ? Loads of whining and Sony released a software that works just as good with locked or unlocked.
God damn this became a long post. So with this said im just saying. Why even bother in the first place having DRM keys if the rules dont apply anyway ? An everyday user doesent even need them either, he or she doesent even know what rooting or unlocking is anyway. And the ones that do know about it, also know about how to whine to get sony to fix the errors wich an unlock will produce
Jonas740 said:
dunno if the previous author saw what i wrote in my post but when i relocked my Xperia V using flashtool i could update with the pc companion or sony update or whats it called nowdays
And funny thing is, i actually have a case at Sony about this phone since i do have some issues with it but i think thats software related since ppl have been getting all sorts of errors from the KitKat firmwares. But i said how it was that i have unlocked bootloader and all that and she replied that my warranty was still valid and i could send it in for them to test it.
And i need to say this. Since sony posts an official way on their webpage, for ANYONE to read about how to unlock the bootloader and they also supply the code for unlocking it. Then i think it shouldnt affect the phone in any way or brake the warranty. (Sure it does say something about that, but all aint reading stuff like that). So if a developer wanted to unlock the phone. Why not have them contacting sony instead.
And surley, DRM keys (i just think sony shouldnt even bother having them) can be put back in if you let Sony do it. They put it there in the first place you know. And in the lovely electronic world we live in we all know that, if Sony can put thoose there, anyone could do it with the knowhow. But since the keys dont really mean anything, not that ive noticed you could really think about what use they actually do. And Sony knows that if ppl cant have the phone it was meant to be even with a unlocked bootloader, they will probably get some other phone or just whine hard enough so that Sony makes a software where everything works the same way with locked or unlocked. Camera stopped to work if you unlocked before 4.3 right ? What can you read about that like everywhere ? Loads of whining and Sony released a software that works just as good with locked or unlocked.
God damn this became a long post. So with this said im just saying. Why even bother in the first place having DRM keys if the rules dont apply anyway ? An everyday user doesent even need them either, he or she doesent even know what rooting or unlocking is anyway. And the ones that do know about it, also know about how to whine to get sony to fix the errors wich an unlock will produce
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closed for being a duplicate.
use this link for other thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2730169
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Hi guys, i have a question, I will go tu buy a XPERIA SP (FACTORY FREE, without any brand), and i want no know if there is a posibblity of they come with ALLOW UNLOCK BOOTLOADER: NO.
Thanks for your answers.
Yes there is the possibility
My phone was like that, I bought it SIM Free and discovered that it showed NO.
After a few mods and rooting attempts, magically it changed to Yes. But remember that you will lose DRM keys, BRAVIA Engine may worke but other GPS functions will stop working forever, right now there's no need to unlock the bootloader. There arent any good kernels/roms...
cachanilla86 said:
My phone was like that, I bought it SIM Free and discovered that it showed NO.
After a few mods and rooting attempts, magically it changed to Yes. But remember that you will lose DRM keys, BRAVIA Engine may worke but other GPS functions will stop working forever, right now there's no need to unlock the bootloader. There arent any good kernels/roms...
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¿Do you remember which mods have you made?
¿Which version are u using?
Sounds rare... I am trying, but nothing... I would like to use the Cm and the KK, but my Sp is locked, and there is no way to have this option...
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¿Do you remember which mods have you made?
¿Which version are u using?
Sounds rare... I am trying, but nothing... I would like to use the Cm and the KK, but my Sp is locked, and there is no way to have this option...
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That was MONTHS ago. I just flashed a newer ftf and it became "unlocked". I think it was just a bug.
why dont you try the locked bl cyanogenmod or slimkat both are for locked bl and both are 4.4
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why dont you try the locked bl cyanogenmod or slimkat both are for locked bl and both are 4.4
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Simple my friend... It's because i want to enter into program services across the QPST becuase most of the roms are 2G. and i have 4G service. I use to give service as AP to my lappy on the way, so i will need to cook my own CM with the KK and all the KK are working well with ULB, not with LB... (And most of them in 2G only). Or come back again to the 3G Samsungs...
The key is to alow the bootloader unlock to yes to be with Sony. That's the shame... The air supplier gave me this for my job...
The QPST is a very powerfull tool but only works on the SP with unlocked bootloaders. It's not a simple question of to be root or not. It's a question of to take advantage of the services. 3G is slow, 2G it's impossible for me... No way... 4G is the best... 51Mbps is not 1,5 Mbps... The access to the server by remote takes me 1 hour by instalation of the Wimax access with the 2G... With 4G i make only 10 minutes... (Anyway, also has a high cost, but life is too short).
I will have to wait to have some solution for the bootloader permission... That's life...
(But if you find the version with that bug, will help too much).
So basically someone (I don't know who, I was drunk, I thought it was a joke but no one has come forward) has set a pin on my phone and I can no longer use the thing.
I just want to be able to make phone calls again.
Is there anyway to factory reset my Sony Xperia Z1f without knowing the pin? What are my options basically?
Thanks,
Alex.
Go to Sony Service or the Store where you bought it, they will reset your phone a think for free.
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Go to Sony Service or the Store where you bought it, they will reset your phone a think for free.
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I was hoping to be able to use it this weekend *sigh*
Do I need the receipt/box or something? I bought it from a small importing company who have told me I will need to mail the thing to Sony at my own expense as the nearest service center is a 10 hour drive.
So there is literally no way for me to unlock my phone short of how ever many weeks it takes Sony to mail it back to me?
It's like the shop where I bought mine, they said I got Manufacturer Warranty so I will have to send the phone to Sony, but actually when I call them they will do this for me. Go there and ask them or call them.
Factory Reset the device with PC Companion.
It doesn't ask for a PIN when I just tried now.. I needed to FR mine for the 4.3 update, so I tested it for you
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Factory Reset the device with PC Companion.
It doesn't ask for a PIN when I just tried now.. I needed to FR mine for the 4.3 update, so I tested it for you
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Sorry what is PC Companion? Can you please post a little more info, would be super grateful. I have not been active on these forums in quite some time and am out of the loop haha
Also, I tried following this guide...
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
But I can't access the service menu on my phone from the emergency dialer like many YouTube videos show.
Why might this be?
Pc companion is a program for your Pc where u connect your phone and you can do loads of things like reset update etc...is made by Sony so just do a lil Google search and download it... Or go on Sony website
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Also, I tried following this guide...
http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/instructions
But I can't access the service menu on my phone from the emergency dialer like many YouTube videos show.
Why might this be?
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This have nothing to do with your problem, it's for Unlocking Bootlader not the phone. If you do this, you will lose your warranty.
Go via PC Companion.
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This have nothing to do with your problem, it's for Unlocking Bootlader not the phone. If you do this, you will lose your warranty.
Go via PC Companion.
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Ok I got PC Companion and figured it out and have updated my phones software to the latest version.
But now after reading through these forums I think I would like to flash a custom ROM, however looking in the service menu my phone says that bootloader unlock is not allowed.
Is there someway to still unlock my bootloader and flash a custom rom?
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But now after reading through these forums I think I would like to flash a custom ROM, however looking in the service menu my phone says that bootloader unlock is not allowed.
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This actually is a bad news.
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Is there someway to still unlock my bootloader and flash a custom rom?
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No, if Unlock Bootloader Allowed say NO you can't unlock it, but you can flash custom roms with stock kernels and also root your phone. Unlock Bootlader is needed to flash custom kernels only.
Hi guys i have a problem with my phone and i want it repaired. I have changed the Rom a couple of times but now i Flashed it back to stock version 4.0.3. The bootloader is locked and it has no root.I want to know if this can make a problem to the device waranty.If it changed the IMEI or other things. Please help!
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Hi guys i have a problem with my phone and i want it repaired. I have changed the Rom a couple of times but now i Flashed it back to stock version 4.0.3. The bootloader is locked and it has no root.I want to know if this can make a problem to the device waranty.If it changed the IMEI or other things. Please help!
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Your bootloader isn't really locked, it's just what it shows.You only reverted your ROM to stock ICS, you didn't change the motherboard or anything so IMEI etc. should all be the same.
LG service would probably know that you unlocked the bootloader, even though it looks like it's locked.So be prepared to void your warranty.
PS: What's the problem with your phone anyway? Maybe you can fix it on your own.
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Your bootloader isn't really locked, it's just what it shows.You only reverted your ROM to stock ICS, you didn't change the motherboard or anything so IMEI etc. should all be the same.
LG service would probably know that you unlocked the bootloader, even though it looks like it's locked.So be prepared to void your warranty.
PS: What's the problem with your phone anyway? Maybe you can fix it on your own.
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Thanks a lot. The problem with the phone is that the unlock button doesnt work well. I need to push it pretty hard to unlock the screen.I have a spot on the interior of the screen. I dont know how the hell it appeard there :laugh:. . The phone was held in normal conditions. No exta moisture or something else.And the plastic on the left side is getting off.
There is a way to "really" block the bootloader ?
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Thanks a lot. The problem with the phone is that the unlock button doesnt work well. I need to push it pretty hard to unlock the screen.I have a spot on the interior of the screen. I dont know how the hell it appeard there :laugh:. . The phone was held in normal conditions. No exta moisture or something else.And the plastic on the left side is getting off.
There is a way to "really" block the bootloader ?
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there is a way, via fuse editing, there is a thread somewhere explaining our bootloader fuse file, and which bytes determine state of bootloader. however, i don't think anyone had done it before. also, be prepared to get your phone back with permanently locked bootloader. LG's servicers have nasty habbit of blowing all the fuses and locking the bootloader forever for some reason.
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there is a way, via fuse editing, there is a thread somewhere explaining our bootloader fuse file, and which bytes determine state of bootloader. however, i don't think anyone had done it before. also, be prepared to get your phone back with permanently locked bootloader. LG's servicers have nasty habbit of blowing all the fuses and locking the bootloader forever for some reason.
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Thank you a lot i will see what i can do
Search unlock.apk here in the forum (topic title is something like "16 chances to...")... It locks the bootloader too, you just have to root it again.
If I helped you, please hit thanks.
What's your location? Based on the problems you named an unlocked bootloader shouldn't void your warranty if you are in Europe for example. The changes you made to the software most probably aren't the cause of your problems, and therefore the warranty should still be in place. This however depends on your local law.
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What's your location? Based on the problems you named an unlocked bootloader shouldn't void your warranty if you are in Europe for example. The changes you made to the software most probably aren't the cause of your problems, and therefore the warranty should still be in place. This however depends on your local law.
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I Am From Romania i dont know if they will void my waranty or not but i dont want to risk it. I have tryed to lock it with the fuse blow but i cant do it.
IT keeps saying this : echo fffffffffefeffed And it will be Permanently Locked and All fuses will be blown >/sys/firmware/fuse/odm_reserved
and when i copy into the terminal the bootloader is still unlocked
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I Am From Romania i dont know if they will void my waranty or not but i dont want to risk it. I have tryed to lock it with the fuse blow but i cant do it.
IT keeps saying this : echo fffffffffefeffed And it will be Permanently Locked and All fuses will be blown >/sys/firmware/fuse/odm_reserved
and when i copy into the terminal the bootloader is still unlocked
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If you're in Romania you should be fine. If they find out you've unlocked it, they'll probably tell you your warranty doesn't cover it, so you'll have to be that annoying Mr. Know It All guy for a bit and tell them why they're wrong (Google it, and there's been a thread about it on this forum as well with some links), they'll be intimidated and will believe you on your word, then they'll fix it and you'll be happy and buy an ice cream with the money you saved.
If you're still planning on relocking just to be safe, I don't think that will work. The repair guys have their ways of hunting down unlocked phones and can probably see yours has been unlocked too.
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If you're in Romania you should be fine. If they find out you've unlocked it, they'll probably tell you your warranty doesn't cover it, so you'll have to be that annoying Mr. Know It All guy for a bit and tell them why they're wrong (Google it, and there's been a thread about it on this forum as well with some links), they'll be intimidated and will believe you on your word, then they'll fix it and you'll be happy and buy an ice cream with the money you saved.
If you're still planning on relocking just to be safe, I don't think that will work. The repair guys have their ways of hunting down unlocked phones and can probably see yours has been unlocked too.
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Thank You A lot. I thinked about this the phone have fizical problems. So maybe they wont check the bootloader status. Or is it a comonly procedure to check it? Tomorow i will flash it back to 4.0.3 and then maybe i will send it to service.Anyway thank you and lets hope it will be fine :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
Hello friends, I hope you can help me on this, I'm Venezuelan so I translated this into google, I have an Xperia ZR, the problem is that it does not accept the firmware that put him just begins to reiniciciarse again and again, the one who accepts is the version 4.1.2 but it does not work the phone nor WiFI, also recognizes the Sim Card and placed in the nuemérico keypad * # 06 # not show the IMEI. There will be some solution for this? Is Xperia ZR C5502, they hope can help me.
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Hello friends, I hope you can help me on this, I'm Venezuelan so I translated this into google, I have an Xperia ZR, the problem is that it does not accept the firmware that put him just begins to reiniciciarse again and again, the one who accepts is the version 4.1.2 but it does not work the phone nor WiFI, also recognizes the Sim Card and placed in the nuemérico keypad * # 06 # not show the IMEI. There will be some solution for this? Is Xperia ZR C5502, they hope can help me.
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Have you tried repairing your ZR using Sony PC companion? Have you unlocked bootloadter by official or unofficial method without backing up DRM keys and TA partitions?
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Have you tried repairing your ZR using Sony PC companion? Have you unlocked bootloadter by official or unofficial method without backing up DRM keys and TA partitions?
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Hello friend, sorry for the time to respond, never try to unlock your bootloader and you try to repair the PC Companion, there will be some form of recueperar my IMEI and thus fix my Xperia ZR ?? Or some way to repair the TA carpetetas? I hope you can help me
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Hello friend, sorry for the time to respond, never try to unlock your bootloader and you try to repair the PC Companion, there will be some form of recueperar my IMEI and thus fix my Xperia ZR ?? Or some way to repair the TA carpetetas? I hope you can help me
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I am not able to understand the words like carpetetas or recueperar? you can take your phone to local service center and ask them to see what is wrong. First take backup of your phone like contacts, sms whatsapp data etc. then visit service center. If everything is okay ( DRM Keys and TA partitions ) they will flash latest 4.4.4
If yiu didnvt unlocked the bootloader then try to install arom for ur region but if u unblocked bootloader i think you have lost ta partition so the imei doesn't show up when u call *06#
I think so too. May be you have unlocked bootloader without backing up TA partition and DRM keys thats why you are not able to upgrade your phone to version 4.3 or 4.4.2 or 4.4.4.
There was same question some time back. Someone unlocked bootloader without backing up and now stuck on 4.1.2. Sony refused to help as he lost warranty of the phone by unlocking. He had no knowledge about unlocking and warranty.
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I think so too. May be you have unlocked bootloader without backing up TA partition and DRM keys thats why you are not able to upgrade your phone to version 4.3 or 4.4.2 or 4.4.4.
There was same question some time back. Someone unlocked bootloader without backing up and now stuck on 4.1.2. Sony refused to help as he lost warranty of the phone by unlocking. He had no knowledge about unlocking and warranty.
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Greetings from new friend, well I got the phone when using it a while and I andubo pretty well until I skip the update to Android 4.2.2 and in doing so by PC Companion problems began not recnocia the operator sim card and alli what flashee with flashtools but not the phone began to reboot every time. Now the phone will not funcionala network sim card is not detected, does not turn on WiFi, no funcioan the Bluetooth, does not display the IMEI and also in Settings-About Phone, Says Baseband Version Unknown. It will be a logic board problem ???, I substitute another ???
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Greetings from new friend, well I got the phone when using it a while and I andubo pretty well until I skip the update to Android 4.2.2 and in doing so by PC Companion problems began not recnocia the operator sim card and alli what flashee with flashtools but not the phone began to reboot every time. Now the phone will not funcionala network sim card is not detected, does not turn on WiFi, no funcioan the Bluetooth, does not display the IMEI and also in Settings-About Phone, Says Baseband Version Unknown. It will be a logic board problem ???, I substitute another ???
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Frankly speaking, I do not understand non-English words that frequently appears in your posts. Having that said, I can pretty much grasp the gist from your posts, although that may not be 100% what you intend to mean. Combined with answers by previous forum members, i offer you suggestions to your problems point by point.
Okay enough of this bull****. First I want to say that if you are unfamiliar with things here on XDA, read the guidelines before you do anything. You probably unlocked the bootloader of your phone, but did not backup anything. In that case, you HAVE to install a kernel everytime you try to switch rom (including a stock-based, or stock for that matter). Your numerous problems above suggests a kernel problem to me. What you do now is to follow UB way to flash a AOSP or whatever rom (not stock) and report if it solved your problems
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Frankly speaking, I do not understand non-English words that frequently appears in your posts. Having that said, I can pretty much grasp the gist from your posts, although that may not be 100% what you intend to mean. Combined with answers by previous forum members, i offer you suggestions to your problems point by point.
Okay enough of this bull****. First I want to say that if you are unfamiliar with things here on XDA, read the guidelines before you do anything. You probably unlocked the bootloader of your phone, but did not backup anything. In that case, you HAVE to install a kernel every time you try to switch rom (including a stock-based, or stock for that matter). Your numerous problems above suggests a kernel problem to me. What you do now is to follow UB way to flash a AOSP or whatever rom (not stock) and report if it solved your problems
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He is using google translate to convert his question for us to understand. but google is getting better of him by throwing such smart n hard words at him.
paulson881 said:
Frankly speaking, I do not understand non-English words that frequently appears in your posts. Having that said, I can pretty much grasp the gist from your posts, although that may not be 100% what you intend to mean. Combined with answers by previous forum members, i offer you suggestions to your problems point by point.
Okay enough of this bull****. First I want to say that if you are unfamiliar with things here on XDA, read the guidelines before you do anything. You probably unlocked the bootloader of your phone, but did not backup anything. In that case, you HAVE to install a kernel everytime you try to switch rom (including a stock-based, or stock for that matter). Your numerous problems above suggests a kernel problem to me. What you do now is to follow UB way to flash a AOSP or whatever rom (not stock) and report if it solved your problems
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Friend regret that I can not understand what I write, I apologize, also thanks for your help, I'll do what you recommended me, be installing a kernel or room cooked AOSP, I have installed the root in the only version that works on my ZR which is 4.1.2, then be installing the Recovery to test a kernel or room. Could you tell me which room should I install? You can give me the links? Thanks in advance for your help
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Friend regret that I can not understand what I write, I apologize, also thanks for your help, I'll do what you recommended me, be installing a kernel or room cooked AOSP, I have installed the root in the only version that works on my ZR which is 4.1.2, then be installing the Recovery to test a kernel or room. Could you tell me which room should I install? You can give me the links? Thanks in advance for your help
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CM11 or AOSP based rom, check development section for ZR
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CM11 or AOSP based rom, check development section for ZR
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Amigo antes de flashear una room CM11 o Aosp debo abrir el Bootloader?
I'm having problems with the camera on my Z3C, so I'm planning on returning it to Sony for repairs. I'm aware that unlocking the bootloader reduces the quality of the camera, and this phone has had the bootloader unlocked to root it, but I'm pretty sure I've taken the right steps to restore the DRM keys and the phones back in factory condition, I'm just hoping someone can confirm I haven't missed something.
The phone was rooted originally using this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-compact/general/how-to-root-backup-drm-keys-t3013343 . After rooting, the camera was still working fine, so don't think that was the problem.
I kept the DRM key backups generated by TA-restore. I have since restored those (just in case) and used sony companion to completely reset the phone. I understand that also gets rid of the root (superSU is definitely gone). This post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=55920017&postcount=155 suggests you can check your DRM keys through the security bit of the service menu, and all eight of them say [key OK] [active], so I'm hoping those are ok to. I'm also assuming that as the DRM keys appear to be there the bootloader must be locked.
Is there anything I'm missing that Sony can make a fuss about when I return it? I've searched to try to make sure I've got everything, but I'm an amateur at this so I might well have misunderstood something. Don't want this costing me money!
Thanks for any help.
Hello
Can i return it to sony if the back is broken?