Sooo I'm starting to get really annoyed about this so called "high end" phone now. And as a consumer beeing the testpilot of new software.
Word to Sony, do not implement new software until it really works.
Well I relocked bootloader because my camera caused freeze or reboots from time to time. I ran the repair from Sony update.
Voila! Now the touchscreen behaves weird from time to time. And the viewing angles has bothered me from start.
My old Xperia V is outperforming this atm. What's up with this, it's always like this when major updates arrive I've noticed.
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Probably have nothing to do with it, but just for my personal curiosity, did you Restored TA?
EDIT: Now I remember, you did not. My Bad...sorry...
Nope I didn't back my TA up. All the services seems to work anyway I noticed.
Didn't think Sony update would allow me to to do a repair since I thought it was based on the DRM keys. Funny enough some services that wasn't there before suddenly are there aswell.
But it seems to have changed so that my screen acts weird and it sometimes crash applications. The camera have worked good so far wit better pictures aswell. I will test it abit more during the day.
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Sorry to say this, but you cannot blame sony for a phone that is not functioning correctly when you have unlocked the bootloader.
They quite clearly say this
http://prntscr.com/3eh5ze
and that is taken from thier official page about unlocking the bootloader http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
I know this does not help, but this is not the place to vent frustrations when you have modified the software they implemented on the device they sold you and then complain that the this causes bad performance.
Every one of us here should realise that this is a developers site and that modifications and customisations to a fully stock firmware are done at our risk and come with no guarantee of improve performance.
Also, there is no guarantee of reverting back...
we take as part of the risk of helping developers. There are extremely few finalised products on this site, 99% are works in progress.
although.
gregbradley said:
Sorry to say this, but you cannot blame sony for a phone that is not functioning correctly when you have unlocked the bootloader.
They quite clearly say this
http://prntscr.com/3eh5ze
and that is taken from thier official page about unlocking the bootloader http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
I know this does not help, but this is not the place to vent frustrations when you have modified the software they implemented on the device they sold you and then complain that the this causes bad performance.
Every one of us here should realise that this is a developers site and that modifications and customisations to a fully stock firmware are done at our risk and come with no guarantee of improve performance.
Also, there is no guarantee of reverting back...
we take as part of the risk of helping developers. There are extremely few finalised products on this site, 99% are works in progress.
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Although, there are others having issues with the display as far as ive read. And most of them are on stock firmware with locked bootloader.
The hardware itself should work in any case if you are on stock software with or without the DRM keys. And tbh, in latest software it seems to me that the DRM aint used at all. If a DRM key would be required, that entire serivce wouldnt be avaialbe at all. Also, the Sony Update repair wouldnt update/repair the phone if it was based on DRM keys. The Sony Update does not work if i have my bootloader unlocked. But as said, relocking it again with flashtool makes it work just like it is supposed to. And this tells me that DRM keys are not beeing used since they are put there so that you can use "special" services that Sony wants you to use on stock phone. And theese services are started and working without the DRM keys. Even the warranty is valid after a unlocked bootloader after i spoke to a person at Sony, since they would accept my phone to check under warranty. And it says like this from what ive read "unlocking the bootloader MAY void your warranty".
So the problems i have or have had are problems that even ppl who never "fiddled" with their software or bootloader also have. Atleast thats what ive found when i did a quick search for it on google. And the problems were there even before KitKat. Stock software is always stock software.
Sorry for venting my frustration but the support forum at Sony are just filled with standard answers. At this place there are actually developers and i belive that information from this forum actually reach the developers at Sony faster.
Anyone know when the .761 will be released officially btw ? Im hoping a bug fix will arrive soon to fix the problems that ppl are having. If that doesent work i will send my unit to sony for service. If no one wants to buy it from me before
hmm... i know the repair function of update service still work even u relock your bootloader without TA
and the screen strange behavior is common on z1
did u put ur z1 into water?? if u did dont worry, it may recover itself in few days (once a time, after i put into water, the screen behave strange for few days. it went back to normal soon though)
No I didn't expose it to water. It started after I did the repair with Sony update. But "knock on wood", I haven't had any issues yet today. Not even camera has restarted the phone yet.
I however received the wrong kind of screenprotector. I will change it to what I've used on all other phones wich has worked great. Although it worked perfectly with rooted phone and other software so don't think that's the problem.
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Love my Z1 so far but..
Wondering about 3 things at the moment,
1. Will Sony ever fix the camera issue for the bootloader?
2. If so, Will there be a great amount of ROM development like for example the Galaxy series.
3. Are we gonna see some nice updates from Sony in the near future? ( Camera fix, 4.3/4.4?)
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Love my Z1 so far but..
Wondering about 3 things at the moment,
1. Will Sony ever fix the camera issue for the bootloader?
2. If so, Will there be a great amount of ROM development like for example the Galaxy series.
3. Are we gonna see some nice updates from Sony in the near future? ( Camera fix, 4.3/4.4?)
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Sony will definitely sort the camera issue out with regards to the bootloader.
We have two fantastic devs already, krabappel2548 & DooMLoRD, more will come if they think the Z1 is worth developing for.
Updates will come when and where Sony sees fit to release them but we all hope for 4.4
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I only miss lack of working recovery for 534!
I have unlocked bootloader of my old Z and after some time it brick's (nothing to do with unlocking) fortunately they exchanged it under warranty, but now i prefer not to unlock bootloader and only root (which is must!). Original ROM is very good
I'm really not missing having custom rom's because after rooting I'm using Xposed - have about 25 modules installed and my phone may as well have a custom rom on it because all the features I usually look for are there! With "Auto Hide Soft Keys" installed I've got the full screen size back and I'm really very very happy overall.
Normally I'd have installed a 'slim' or 'AOSP' type rom just for speed reasons, but the damn Snapdragon 800 is so fast it really doesn't matter that Sony preloaded a little bit of bloatware - and its not as pervasive & space consuming as Samsungs bloat.
The only features I'm missing are the kernel level features (Touch-to-wake please DooMLoRD!), but there's only one custom kernel for now and it requires a UB, so I'm waiting on that till they fix the TA partition stuff (though I know you can just restore the TA partition to fix the camera I don't feel the need to yet).
And to answer the questions:
1) Yes
2) Wait and see
3) Yes or they'll be abandoning their flagship phone to word of mouth and stale OS - not going to happen.
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3) Yes or they'll be abandoning their flagship phone to word of mouth and stale OS - not going to happen.
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Sony and S/E HAVE done this before, look at the history...
Here is my answers to the 3 questions:
1. Proberbly not, it is a way to keep people from custom roms.
This way Sony can still claim "open bootloader" and "dev friendly", but Sony have done it this way for a reason...
2. Wait and see...
Without sources, the camera will proberbly not ever work on custom roms...
The way this phone is made, sony can in fact release sources as they have to, and leave out the sources for the camera...
3. Look at the Sony and S/E history... Android v4.3 is most certainly all you can expect, as they have to release 4.3 to meet Googles demands...
You will get bugfixes thoug...
I would have written "Sony is NOT stupid!" in the end of all 3 answers, but that looked a little angry...
- the fact is that Sony have NEVER done anything by mistake...!
Hey guys, I dis a little research in the web but found nothing concrete about the KitKat update for the Xperia T. I would like to know what has been decided for this good device.
No news yet...
...and official firmware support has ended on April (18 months from the release of the device).
From my point of view, we can only hope in a last version for JB 4.3
istux said:
No news yet...
...and official firmware support has ended on April (18 months from the release of the device).
From my point of view, we can only hope in a last version for JB 4.3
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Yap, that's what read, final jb 4.3 bug fix
have to settle for 4.3, sony puts kitkat under investigation, but I do not give us that update, no longer interested in us...
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have to settle for 4.3, sony puts kitkat under investigation, but I do not give us that update, no longer interested in us...
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.... and we are no longer interested in Sony
Seriously with that cycle, release with old version then delay, then finally a release ... a buggy release... Thanks
I don't know why you talk like that to Sony, the Xperia T has the same updates the Galaxy Nexus,that it's the market not only Sony.
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moliverac8 said:
I don't know why you talk like that to Sony, the Xperia T has the same updates the Galaxy Nexus,that it's the market not only Sony.
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Becuase I am a little frustrated. Maybe its because I expected more and you are correct I was a bit sarcastic for which I apologize.
Still I have Sony camera and I appreciate all they do and its good that they are strong now, they diversify the market.
Lets hope that they will keep with our highest expectations and provide at least one more build - stable 4.3 or 4.4.
I'd be surprised if there are any further updates to 4.3. I doubt 4.4 will make it to the T in official form.
As for buggy? I haven't had a single problem with mine since upgrading to 4.3
All this bull**** about I want 4.4 NOW nad Sony suck because they're not supporting the phone for ever, just shows some people to be acting like spoilt children.
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I'd be surprised if there are any further updates to 4.3. I doubt 4.4 will make it to the T in official form.
As for buggy? I haven't had a single problem with mine since upgrading to 4.3
All this bull**** about I want 4.4 NOW nad Sony suck because they're not supporting the phone for ever, just shows some people to be acting like spoilt children.
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Bugs? I tell you one: I can't use my Bluetooth and Wifi at the same moment, I have to switch between, that is very inconvenient... Childish? I need my phone for everyday life
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Bugs? I tell you one: I can't use my Bluetooth and Wifi at the same moment, I have to switch between, that is very inconvenient...
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What I think he meant is that it's not a bug if it only happens to you. That fact that your phone isn't working for you isn't necessarily the case for everyone. The only problem I've had with my phone is all the bloatware it comes with, and the white settings; both of which can be fixed easily.
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What I think he meant is that it's not a bug if it only happens to you. That fact that your phone isn't working for you isn't necessarily the case for everyone.
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According to your logic and, for example, if you just using the phone for calling and messaging, the firmware for you is good . But I believe the phone should be fully functioning because everybody has different needs
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According to your logic and, for example, if you just using the phone for calling and messaging, the firmware for you is good . But I believe the phone should be fully functioning because everybody has different needs
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And that was exactly my point. If the phone is fully functional for others and not for you, doesn't make it a bug, it just means that whatever you are using under your specific circumstances is not working for you. It's not about people's needs, it's about the phone working as the developers expected it to.
For instance, I've heard people complain about the microphone picking up the sound of the camera focusing while recording. If that is how the developers intended it to work, then it's not a bug, regardless of whether it interferes with the black and white silent movies they are trying to produce.
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And that was exactly my point. If the phone is fully functional for others and not for you, doesn't make it a bug, it just means that whatever you are using under your specific circumstances is not working for you. It's not about people's needs, it's about the phone working as the developers expected it to.
For instance, I've heard people complain about the microphone picking up the sound of the camera focusing while recording. If that is how the developers intended it to work, then it's not a bug, regardless of whether it interferes with the black and white silent movies they are trying to produce.
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With that logic we can come to the conclusion if something is not working, it is just "specific circumstances" .Bytheway, this bug somewhere I read was fixed for other phones . And also I am not alone complaining about the bugs, ok, according to you "specific circumstances". But I will not get into the further discussions
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With that logic we can come to the conclusion if something is not working, it is just "specific circumstances"
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No, because if nobody can make a phone call, then it's not "specific circumstances"; if you're the only one that can't make a call, there must be some circumstance preventing you from doing so. You really don't know much about logic.
I don't think it comes for xperia t any other series which came with xperia t.
I recently stumbled upon this news
http://motoringcrunch.com/news/sony-xperia-getting-exclusive-kitkat-4-4-3-features/10018672/
Sony website still says 'under investigation' but there still might be hope for us T, TX and V users yet.
I doubt that they are actually still investigating if our devices are compatible with KitKat. More likely, they are already working on the new firmware and dont want anyone to know because then they would get thousands of messages about ETA and that stuff.
Sony cant just leave us alone with a more or less working 4.3 as the last update.
In Japan they have this law that they can only keep a appliance, gadgets or cars for a certain period of time and if they want it to keep it for a longer time they have to pay a higher tax. Maybe Sony apply that principle of this law to our devices
"gadgets need love too"
I really don't care anymore. In a few months it's time for a new phone. LG G3 here i come
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r-l said:
I really don't care anymore. In a few months it's time for a new phone. LG G3 here i come
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Just curious.. Why not OnePlus One?
Dear devs and community,
Now that the xperia z has been out for a while, you might all be aware that there is the famous distinction between xperia z's with
(a) the non-unlockable bootloader
(b) the unlockable bootloader
Now the advantages on the latter one are that you could install custom firmware and benefit from the work of the xda community. To date I am not aware that there is any method to unlock the non-unlockable bootloader in any manner. I would really like to know if we could really do something for that portion of z users that would like to benefit from their phones completely.
Unlocking the bootloader does void the warranty but to this day and age, it's like as if phones are leased to the user and it is ridiculous that s/he does not own the phone completely. So please do not post anything like "it cannot be done etc etc".
What we require is some pointers in order to start from somewhere in the hope of removing this plague completely off the xperia's with locked bootloader. Hopefully this would be a thread that provides insight to other z models on how to resolve this issue.
The bloatware on the phones is incredible! A quick look through adb shell will instantly tell you what I mean. The only way of being safe is not to have a data / wifi connection on the phone. That is why custom firmware is a far better choice than official firmware.
I hope that something could be done. Thank you in advance.
Al
Here's some threads that might provide you with a better insight into the problem:
[DEV] Reloading kernel without rebooting - http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-u/general/dev-reloading-kernel-rebooting-t2053466
[DEV][LB]ramdiskHijack - CM for locked bootloaders? - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2653896
[Bounty]Funding an xperia T/TL bootloader unlock - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2287897
[DEV] Kexec for locked bootloaders - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2648430
Other potentially helpful threads:
[dev][kernel][kexec] - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2495152
[PATCH][TX][DEV]kexec hardboot port - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2747215
None of them have succeded fully at loading a custom kernel on a non-unlockable device, or unlocking the device's bootloader.
An alternative would be hijacking ramdisk and loading a non-stock-based ROM on a stock kernel, as they did on the Xperia SP:
XperiaSP Locked Bootloader (LBL) Cyanogenmod 11.0 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2735975
I've tried porting the solution they used on the Xperia SP, but I have nowhere near the amount of knowledge to get something like that working. Though, if some experienced dev would look into this solutions, maybe we would have some results
Even if Z's bootloader is unlockable, i think you can still flash custom roms with it. there are custom roms which support locked bootloaders, but of course they use stock kernel. hehe
Thing is we have to look further. There must be a solution. Nothing is impossible to this community. Thing is even as has been posted above. Only stock kernel can be flashed. Rooting is cumbersome as well which is mandatory on such a phone. At least as of the kitkat update u got to play about a lot to root it. Wondering why there was no rooting exploit lile cfroot for z out yet.
Rooting the z is simple, even on kk with locked boot loader - see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783863
Making permanently locked bootloader unlockable is a different story. The devs with the know how would have little incentive to pursue such a task. They would have bought z's with an unlockable bootloader, and unlocked it almost immediately.
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Rooting the z is simple, even on kk with locked boot loader - see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2783863
Making permanently locked bootloader unlockable is a different story. The devs with the know how would have little incentive to pursue such a task. They would have bought z's with an unlockable bootloader, and unlocked it almost immediately.
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True. I was hoping that the Xperia T bounty thread (I mentioned it above) would be of some motivation to devs, and help us fix the problem. But it seems that even 400$ wasn't a big enough motivation (or it's just impossible to do)
baga255 said:
True. I was hoping that the Xperia T bounty thread (I mentioned it above) would be of some motivation to devs, and help us fix the problem. But it seems that even 400$ wasn't a big enough motivation (or it's just impossible to do)
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Nothing is impossible for this community. There are many people out there who could not buy an unlockable z and hopefully we could make such hardware more usable.
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Alcatrazx said:
Nothing is impossible for this community. There are many people out there who could not buy an unlockable z and hopefully we could make such hardware more usable.
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NOTHING is 100% IMPOSSIBLE anywhere. The creator of the universe COULD be a flying spaghetti monster, and Santa Claus MIGHT be real. LOL.
But some things are just VERY improbable.
Never mind sacharine images of "community". What we have is LOTS of people who want things but can't do them themselves, and relatively few people who can actually do those things.
A company developed an unlock for One M8 and NOBODY else can figure it out. They bricked FIVE M8's getting it working. They charge $20 and get LOTS of grief from people whining that it should be cheaper, or free.
BL locks these days are often VERY hard to crack. Each time crackers attacked in the last few years, the OEMs got smarter and put in more safeguards. Gone are the days when ANYTHING could be unlocked.
In the grand scheme of things, $400 is almost nothing to a high caliber cracker, and pledges are often MUCH bigger than real life payouts. A good SW engineer can make $100k per year in the first world, $400 might pay for 4 hours, once all sorts of common sense deductions are made.
I made SURE to buy my Z, Z1 and Z2 tab from non-carrier sources that leave BL unlockable. Others should do the same, or at least learn for next phone.
Remember the time...!
Guys,
I owned a Xperia x8 ho, this old phone has its glory, rip x8...
I tought there was an unnoficial way to unlock it's BL, by the Windows console,
Why not look in there and see if something can be done for the Z?
With the x8 we only had to verify the volttage/date (correct me if I'm wrong)
to see if the exploit was possible, why not try to do the same on the Z?
X10 Bypass > X8 Idea > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1018652
X8 Bypass Idea > http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1042018
General Research on the x8 forum > http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=304696191
I can't find back the original thread but I can assure you that my X8 is UB unfortunately it dates:S
I think our best bet is to try and get CM (or AOSP/PA) working on a locked bootloader, using the ramdisk hijack method. It's been done before on the Xperia SP (and open-sourced), so I think it should be possible for the Xperia Z too (just my personal opinion, I'm in no way sure that that would actually work but considering the similarities of Sony products, it might be highly possible).
I'm just too unexperienced to do it myself atm, but I'll still try when I find the time.
This should be of interest.
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Any news on this? Any dev willing to give this a shot?
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Hey there.
I'm new to the Xperia scene, before I had various Samsung devices since the S1.
This means I'm pretty spoiled. The first thing I usually did on my S devices was rooting and installing CyanogenmodLineageOS, and it always worked flawlessly.
Now coming to the Xperia devices, what will the problems be that I'll face?
From what I've seen in the guides section, unlocking, rooting and TWRP is possible and already available, but there are some caveats with unlocking (loosing some proprietary features).
Second, what are the chances of getting LOS for this device?
im also new here and this finally looks like my kind of smartphone. Its small, premium and has pretty damn good features including a headphone jack! Currently on a OnePlus 5 and its.... okay? They really cheaped out on lots of things to make the stupid camera better which it still kinda sucks. Especially the glass on the front.... ive got scratches galore and it sits in my left pocket ALONE CONSTANTLY. the fact that it has any scratches is bullsh**.
Enough ranting, I'd love for this thread to get more attention! I just really want to know what this thing will cost. hopefully under 500.... or even less than that. Its a tiny phone cmon price tag.... wondering how this battery will do and what kind of dev support it will be getting! definitely will check up whenever this thing comes out
Where do you see the root is available? There is only a bounty thread to someone find a rooting method. And I think due to Android 8 and it's new features it will be not easy.
So for now accept the Sony stock ROM, Sony makes pretty clean ROMs so it should be a joy for you to use something new
About loosing some functionality (like Sony DRMem photo processing, Track ID license etc.), on previous Xperias you loose these functions only when you're unlocking the bootloader. If there is a rooting method with locked bootloader then you loose nothing (for example on Z3 Compact).
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Where do you see the root is available? There is only a bounty thread to someone find a rooting method. And I think due to Android 8 and it's new features it will be not easy.
So for now accept the Sony stock ROM, Sony makes pretty clean ROMs so it should be a joy for you to use something new
About loosing some functionality (like Sony DRMem photo processing, Track ID license etc.), on previous Xperias you loose these functions only when you're unlocking the bootloader. If there is a rooting method with locked bootloader then you loose nothing (for example on Z3 Compact).
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With Root, I was referring to the "All Things XPERIA" thread, and to unlocking the bootloader.
Should be no problem to achieve root like that, however then there's the DRM-stuff...
The ROM itself is fine, but I tend to rely on some things like Titanium Backup and Tasker.
Guess the Xperia line isn't the best choice for me after all.
Shame cause I already preordered ;D
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With Root, I was referring to the "All Things XPERIA" thread, and to unlocking the bootloader.
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Bare in mind that is a general reference for previous devices and until XPERIA devs get devices with Oreo then it's going to be a waiting game.
I remember there was some rom development for the moto z play when I had it. There seems to be no interest for this 3rd generation model. Is there something like an uncrackable, locked bootloader that's stopping developers in their tracks or just no interest in kernels and tweaked roms?
Perhaps some, but from what I've seen, (and I've owned Moto X, Z, Z2play and now this one) there's not a whole lot of development. Some, but not much. Probably because the OS is very vanilla and smooth, for one. And two, unfortunately, they are just not very popular devices.
On the Moto X, most seemed to want to just root and use xposed, and stay stock. Otherwise cool proprietary Moto apps and functions were lost. Not available on custom roms.
The fact that downgrading is near impossible without bricking doesn't help either.
Warranty is void when you unlock bootloader on Moto's site and that probably deters many from messing with the device too.
But this phone is very new still, hopefully some development starts up. Just may take more time, cause it's not that popular and not as many own it. Developers may not be buying it cause it's the 3rd generation now and they've seen that it's not that popular in the past. Time will tell.
Oh, and if mod use is affected by custom roms, that would be a huge roadblock too. For many folks anyways.
When do you think root will be available for this phone? That is what I am waiting for before I buy it.
G.I. Jew said:
When do you think root will be available for this phone? That is what I am waiting for before I buy it.
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Probably not until a developer or two get this device and work on it.
Problem is, it's 3rd generation, and developers know that development is quiet on the Z's. Many Moto's really. So they choose a more popular device in many cases.
Hopefully we see some action soon though! Or learn to do for ourselves.
...delete me
Just bought this phone and will see about development, I want to get back into it, the only thing I built before was a kernel for Surnia , development is very different nowadays so if it's not to hard count me in.
Hopefully we can get twrp/root. Viper would be awesome on this phone! Thinking about this phone but I AM NOT GOING TO THROW AWAY HARDWARE WARRENTY TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER. Oneplus 6 looks better but sucks with no fm radio/duel stereo speakers/sd card.
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vq8acsxht said:
Hopefully we can get twrp/root. Viper would be awesome on this phone! Thinking about this phone but I AM NOT GOING TO THROW AWAY HARDWARE WARRENTY TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER. Oneplus 6 looks better but sucks with no fm radio/duel stereo speakers/sd card.
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You won't have root then on this device, if it becomes an option. Have to unlock bootloader, which kills your warranty.
Darth said:
You won't have root then on this device, if it becomes an option. Have to unlock bootloader, which kills your warranty.
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I wonder about this, has there been a case where a manufacturer refused to repair a phone because of warranty root wise?
That is what I am wondering, also. I do not mind them killing the software support. Besides, sounds fony bolony that a person rooting can mess up software that factory reset can't fix. On the other hand, TWRP can brick a phone by flashing things. But if GPS/screen dies, that is not because of TWRP/flashing things, that is because chips have failed aka. hardware failure. What can cause hardware/cpu's failure is bring cpu's up to 100% and leaving there or overclocking them but who would do that? I think a custom ROM is easier on the processors because of all the stock crapware that continues digging for hours on hours for private information making the phone hot. The facebook app is the one that made my phone warm and when I killed it with a root uninstaller, the phone cooled back down.
vq8acsxht said:
That is what I am wondering, also. I do not mind them killing the software support. Besides, sounds fony bolony that a person rooting can mess up software that factory reset can't fix. On the other hand, TWRP can brick a phone by flashing things. But if GPS/screen dies, that is not because of TWRP/flashing things, that is because chips have failed aka. hardware failure. What can cause hardware/cpu's failure is bring cpu's up to 100% and leaving there or overclocking them but who would do that? I think a custom ROM is easier on the processors because of all the stock crapware that continues digging for hours on hours for private information making the phone hot. The facebook app is the one that made my phone warm and when I killed it with a root uninstaller, the phone cooled back down.
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Actually recent Motos are easy to brick if you do things wrong. Particularly trying to downgrade firmware. Check Out other moto sections, lots of "help I bricked my phone" threads. Many can be fixed by us, but how many don't even try and send it in under warranty?
So that's one definite reason to deny warranty. Though its not directly related to rooting.
I agree. I think they panic and need the phone to work. I like Samsung or Alcatel way of restore the phone to stock. Samsung especially. Turn phone off and plug it into the computer and send firmware to phone. I just wonder why newbies do not read and understand how to restore phone to stock BEFORE touching the phone. They do not ask themselves, "Do I have ALL OF THE TOOLS" to restore phone to factory settings/firmware and "Do I have the firmware". They just want to know how to do mods to phone to see what other tricks the phone can do. Roll over, but DO NOT PLAY DEAD! Crap, "My phone just died". Warranty, where's the warranty card and phone number, now?
vq8acsxht said:
Hopefully we can get twrp/root. Viper would be awesome on this phone! Thinking about this phone but I AM NOT GOING TO THROW AWAY HARDWARE WARRENTY TO UNLOCK BOOTLOADER. Oneplus 6 looks better but sucks with no fm radio/duel stereo speakers/sd card.
input?? opionion??
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Are you a time-traveler who just appeared here naked in the streets, behind a dumpster, with only memories of 2010 in your head?
(Just checking...)
"Viper would be AWESOME on this phone!"
Lolololol-plop.
+ And "TWRP"??
What year *did* the EVO 3D come out anyway?
yourbrotherrex said:
Are you a time-traveler who just appeared here naked in the streets, behind a dumpster, with only memories of 2010 in your head?
(Just checking...)
"Viper would be AWESOME on this phone!"
Lolololol-plop.
+ And "TWRP"??
What year *did* the EVO 3D come out anyway?
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@Darth. If you can translate what the crack pot is saying, thank you. I do not speak pot head, sorry. Not unless he/she/it is infering that he/she/it has just rooted/twrp with viperfx installed?