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[Dev Poll]

Without an unlocked boot loader, which would allow for a custom kernel, we will never see substantial development on the Atrix.
Lack of (the ability to run) custom kernels prevents many of the modifications that have made Cyanogenmod and other popular ROMs appealing. (including overclocking, enhanced power management and screen color adjustments just to name a few)
The best we could hope for (without an unlocked bootloader) would be a stock version of android, devoid of all things Blur.
Luckily the latter will happen sooner rather than later, imo.
Like some other posters said, we still have hope. There are three main sources of unlocking the bootloader, I will list them here in the order I feel they are likely to actually happen chronologically:
1. Information gleaned from the LG Optimus 2X will directly translate into an unlocked bootloader on the Atrix:
If unconfirmed rumors are to be believed, the LG Optimus 2X, which runs the same Tegra 2 SOC (system on chip) as the Atrix, has already had its bootloader unlocked. With a European March release eminent (its only available in South Korea currently) it could only be a small matter of time before the same methods used to unlock the 2X fall into our hands.
2. Out of the box thinking by Developers leads to exploiting the bootloader:
Inquisitive and risky developers here at XDA have been laying waste to bootloaders and the like for years now. The Tegra 2 System On a Chip Platform is still very much in its infancy, it stands to reason that there are quite a few vulnerabilities hiding just under the surface awaiting the prodding minds of credit hungry devs.
3. Motorola makes good on their "promise" and gives us the keys to the castle:
Motorola has alluded to the possibility of releasing their secure grasp on our most prised dual core phone. Rest assured it won't literally be "keys" they give us, and more likely they will provide a flashable development bootloader accessible as a download to registered developers.
What method do you think will happen, first?

I think we may learn something from the Optimus 2X.

im feeling pessimistic about this. im not thinking its going to get cracked. hope im wrong though

The Devs always win, why would Moto release the software? Because they feel like it? Sorry they are worried about one thing and that is the bottom line, they wont do anything to help a small portion of their customer base.

You need to have an option for "DG will figure it out"

if anything we'd learn we should learn that from the XOOM, no ?
LG use the tegra 2 and all, but different company do ( lock ) things differently

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im feeling pessimistic about this. im not thinking its going to get cracked. hope im wrong though
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Unfortunately I'm in line with you. It doesn't seem like there's any motivation for Motorola to release the keys, and from past history with their devices cracking the bootloader does not look promising.
It's a shame because this is a very good phone that just needs a little tweaking (removing Blur).

There has to be some way without the keys.. I don't know what, but it can't require just those. We need to get other developers to look at the Atrix. Like I said in the other thread, jimmydafish and maybe even koush could help DG try to find some way to bring ROMs. Even if they don't fully unlock it, just do it similar to the droid x.
Atrix4G Rooted!

the poll results speak truth.
*sad face*
its dumb too because i returned my craptivate to get this phone, and now i wont be able to do all the same cool stuff to it.
i guess i have 20 more days where i could return this and either go to the crappy again, or inspire. im juggling the idea, but the dual core, large ram and good battery life are making me lean towards just keeping this phone.....oh and the fact taht the GPS works when the crappy didnt

oFUNGUSo said:
the poll results speak truth.
*sad face*
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You sir are no economist!
But seriously... if you look at the results, an overwhelming majority believe that we will in one way or another obtain an unlocked bootloader:
66.18% of all voters think it will happen, while only 33.82 think it never will.

Have faith in the DEVs, I'm voting on option 2!

it won't be cracked, it's almost impossible, but the droid x wasn't doomed because it still has greats rom. No unlocked bootloader only means no custom kernels, not roms.
i would like those 100+ people that signed the petition about at&t's block of hsupa instead post on motorola's twitter accounts all day. the only way we MAY get an unlocked bootloader would be for moto to do it.

jruweaver said:
Have faith in the DEVs, I'm voting on option 2!
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what if one of those DEVs is the ony who actually told me, and i quote:
"it wont get cracked"

oFUNGUSo said:
what if one of those DEVs is the ony who actually told me, and i quote:
"it wont get cracked"
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I guess it depends on which dev said it.

Designgears told me more than once, and everyone else in the IRC channel that we more than likely will not be able to unlock it. Never said it was impossible, but the thing that checks the kernel and recovery, whatever it is, is lower than the bootloader, that is why the bootloader is only signed.

Out of curiosity is it possible at all to OC without cracking the boot loader and loading a new kernel? I'm pretty sure it's not but just double checking.
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DemonWav said:
Designgears told me more than once, and everyone else in the IRC channel that we more than likely will not be able to unlock it. Never said it was impossible, but the thing that checks the kernel and recovery, whatever it is, is lower than the bootloader, that is why the bootloader is only signed.
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Ohhh boy.. That does not sound good at all What to do, what to do?

Give up. It's tilting windmills without a leak from within moto.

I think you mean tilting at windmills, in reference to Don Quixote tilting his lance at a windmill thinking it was an enemy.

All literary references aside, even with a "leak from within moto" the chances of unlocking the bootloader are negligible.
We had all of the documentation and files from Motorola for the Droid devices including efuse implementation and emulation on unsecured hardware, all of component files themselves for both secured and unsecured hardware and all of the firmware builds.
None of it helped unlock the bootloader. We even have the methods and tools for setting and blowing the fuses with RadioComm.
It is irrevocable once set and we have been told that Motorola themselves cannot "unlock" them. All they can do is replace the chip with an unsecured one.

[Q] ROM Development?

Love my Z1 so far but..
Wondering about 3 things at the moment,
1. Will Sony ever fix the camera issue for the bootloader?
2. If so, Will there be a great amount of ROM development like for example the Galaxy series.
3. Are we gonna see some nice updates from Sony in the near future? ( Camera fix, 4.3/4.4?)

zippy1990 said:
Love my Z1 so far but..
Wondering about 3 things at the moment,
1. Will Sony ever fix the camera issue for the bootloader?
2. If so, Will there be a great amount of ROM development like for example the Galaxy series.
3. Are we gonna see some nice updates from Sony in the near future? ( Camera fix, 4.3/4.4?)
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Sony will definitely sort the camera issue out with regards to the bootloader.
We have two fantastic devs already, krabappel2548 & DooMLoRD, more will come if they think the Z1 is worth developing for.
Updates will come when and where Sony sees fit to release them but we all hope for 4.4
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I only miss lack of working recovery for 534!
I have unlocked bootloader of my old Z and after some time it brick's (nothing to do with unlocking) fortunately they exchanged it under warranty, but now i prefer not to unlock bootloader and only root (which is must!). Original ROM is very good

I'm really not missing having custom rom's because after rooting I'm using Xposed - have about 25 modules installed and my phone may as well have a custom rom on it because all the features I usually look for are there! With "Auto Hide Soft Keys" installed I've got the full screen size back and I'm really very very happy overall.
Normally I'd have installed a 'slim' or 'AOSP' type rom just for speed reasons, but the damn Snapdragon 800 is so fast it really doesn't matter that Sony preloaded a little bit of bloatware - and its not as pervasive & space consuming as Samsungs bloat.
The only features I'm missing are the kernel level features (Touch-to-wake please DooMLoRD!), but there's only one custom kernel for now and it requires a UB, so I'm waiting on that till they fix the TA partition stuff (though I know you can just restore the TA partition to fix the camera I don't feel the need to yet).
And to answer the questions:
1) Yes
2) Wait and see
3) Yes or they'll be abandoning their flagship phone to word of mouth and stale OS - not going to happen.

Uvaavu said:
3) Yes or they'll be abandoning their flagship phone to word of mouth and stale OS - not going to happen.
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Sony and S/E HAVE done this before, look at the history...
Here is my answers to the 3 questions:
1. Proberbly not, it is a way to keep people from custom roms.
This way Sony can still claim "open bootloader" and "dev friendly", but Sony have done it this way for a reason...
2. Wait and see...
Without sources, the camera will proberbly not ever work on custom roms...
The way this phone is made, sony can in fact release sources as they have to, and leave out the sources for the camera...
3. Look at the Sony and S/E history... Android v4.3 is most certainly all you can expect, as they have to release 4.3 to meet Googles demands...
You will get bugfixes thoug...
I would have written "Sony is NOT stupid!" in the end of all 3 answers, but that looked a little angry...
- the fact is that Sony have NEVER done anything by mistake...!

Locked BL Consequences

Could someone please explain the consequences of having a locked BL? Especially wrt to the Moto X? Also, what is this SS that everyone keeps talking about?
TIA

I've been in your situation before and couldn't find help or answers, phone makers sign there software with a signature when it boots so when the phone loads it looks for that signature and won't load unless the os had that signature. When your boatloader is locked it means you can't install custom roms or fully root your phone, people have to find an exploit to root it, like case's rockmymoto exploit. SS is safe strap and it is a workaround for installing custom roms on a locked boatloader phone.
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charlie-n said:
I've been in your situation before and couldn't find help or answers, phone makers sign there software with a signature when it boots so when the phone loads it looks for that signature and won't load unless the os had that signature. When your boatloader is locked it means you can't install custom roms or fully root your phone, people have to find an exploit to root it, like case's rockmymoto exploit. SS is safe strap and it is a workaround for installing custom roms on a locked boatloader phone.
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So basically then, something like the AT&T moto x can be rooted by using the rockmymoto exploit, but custom ROMs have to be made specifically to support SS?
Seeing as how I dont think development for the Moto X isnt going to take off on a major scale (like, say the Nexus), it would make no difference having a locked or unlocked BL, am I right?

anirudh412 said:
So basically then, something like the AT&T moto x can be rooted by using the rockmymoto exploit, but custom ROMs have to be made specifically to support SS?
Seeing as how I dont think development for the Moto X isnt going to take off on a major scale (like, say the Nexus), it would make no difference having a locked or unlocked BL, am I right?
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well there are several roms out there for unlocked BL currently. The reason to have a unlocked BL: if you want to flash roms a lot, if you want to make sure that you always can have root (sometimes exploits for a FW won't come out), and if you want complete control over your phone.
Much less dev will be done for SS roms because people are finding it difficult to build them I believe. I only use SS to keep root and take newer otas, or run roms like eclipse that are based off of stock FW, then just trimmed down with added features and lots more.
If you have the money, having an unlocked BL is nice because you don't need exploits for roots and other things. I would go with one if money wasn't an issue purely for that fact. Not sure how they are getting OTAs right now, but sometimes unlocked BLs also get OTAs quicker than locked BLs. And they can always flash the OTA if there is a leak. You can also always downgrade your device to a different FW if you want with an unlocked BL.

jayboyyyy said:
well there are several roms out there for unlocked BL currently. The reason to have a unlocked BL: if you want to flash roms a lot, if you want to make sure that you always can have root (sometimes exploits for a FW won't come out), and if you want complete control over your phone.
Much less dev will be done for SS roms because people are finding it difficult to build them I believe. I only use SS to keep root and take newer otas, or run roms like eclipse that are based off of stock FW, then just trimmed down with added features and lots more.
If you have the money, having an unlocked BL is nice because you don't need exploits for roots and other things. I would go with one if money wasn't an issue purely for that fact. Not sure how they are getting OTAs right now, but sometimes unlocked BLs also get OTAs quicker than locked BLs. And they can always flash the OTA if there is a leak. You can also always downgrade your device to a different FW if you want with an unlocked BL.
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Money isnt the issue here. The thing is the Moto X isnt available in my country, but someone is selling their AT&T moto on local ebay. I jumped ship from using android for so many years to an iPhone 5 (my current phone) because I just wanted a phone I could use. Kinda grew tired of flashing ROMS and kernels all the time. The Moto X hits the sweet spot with the perfect size and stutter free operation. To me, this is the perfect android phone. All I need is root and a custom launcher. That is available for the AT&T phones I believe? And as you said, ECLIPSE is available for me to flash if I feel like.
Other than that, apps like lightflow and others dont differentiate b/w locked and unlocked BLs, do they?

anirudh412 said:
Could someone please explain the consequences of having a locked BL? Especially wrt to the Moto X? Also, what is this SS that everyone keeps talking about?
TIA
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Straight from the man himself in regards to SafeStrap.
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/104161-recovery-locked-safestrap-recovery-v365-2013-11-13/

Any locked BL users care to give their 0.02 about life with a locked BL? :silly:

anirudh412 said:
Money isnt the issue here. The thing is the Moto X isnt available in my country, but someone is selling their AT&T moto on local ebay. I jumped ship from using android for so many years to an iPhone 5 (my current phone) because I just wanted a phone I could use. Kinda grew tired of flashing ROMS and kernels all the time. The Moto X hits the sweet spot with the perfect size and stutter free operation. To me, this is the perfect android phone. All I need is root and a custom launcher. That is available for the AT&T phones I believe? And as you said, ECLIPSE is available for me to flash if I feel like.
Other than that, apps like lightflow and others dont differentiate b/w locked and unlocked BLs, do they?
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before you pull the trigger make sure the phone will work in your area. IDK about all of the other country phone stuff, but I have seen people posting about what lte bands and radios each different model of the moto x can support. Also, some models you can flash other carriers FW on them, some you can't. And if you buy some models with for some carriers, you can unlock the BL then move it to ATT or whatever service you are using. Like i said, IDK about all of that so that will take some reading and investigating on your part.
I also don't know about lightflow, but basically once you have root, all rooted apps should be able to do what they do. I personally know of nothing that requires an unlocked BL to work (besides flashing roms, kernals, radios, or other stuff). Just root. I'm assuming lightflow is like any other app that requires root. Don't believe any app should ever be changing anything to your bootloader (besides exploits that come in the form of an app).
Im on a lock BL fyi. Had the money for the dev but once root came out for the phone, I decided to go with subsidized. All I wanted was root. And it seems kitkat will have a root exploit made by jcase so im not worried about the future either.

jayboyyyy said:
before you pull the trigger make sure the phone will work in your area. IDK about all of the other country phone stuff, but I have seen people posting about what lte bands and radios each different model of the moto x can support. Also, some models you can flash other carriers FW on them, some you can't. And if you buy some models with for some carriers, you can unlock the BL then move it to ATT or whatever service you are using. Like i said, IDK about all of that so that will take some reading and investigating on your part.
I also don't know about lightflow, but basically once you have root, all rooted apps should be able to do what they do. I personally know of nothing that requires an unlocked BL to work (besides flashing roms, kernals, radios, or other stuff). Just root. I'm assuming lightflow is like any other app that requires root. Don't believe any app should ever be changing anything to your bootloader (besides exploits that come in the form of an app).
I'm on a lock BL fyi. Had the money for the dev but once root came out for the phone, I decided to go with subsidized. All I wanted was root. And it seems kitkat will have a root exploit made by jcase so im not worried about the future either.
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Lol, it just occurred to me I wouldn't need lightflow on the MotoX, it doesn't have a notification light
Either way, even if I do have an unlocked BL, flashing AOSP is out of the question as I wouldnt want to miss out on Active Notifs and always listening G Now. Stock ROM with a few tweaks is all I need.
Under ideal situations (read global release of perhaps the best android phone to date), I wouldn't be in this predicament.

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Im on a lock BL fyi. Had the money for the dev but once root came out for the phone, I decided to go with subsidized. All I wanted was root. And it seems kitkat will have a root exploit made by jcase so im not worried about the future either.
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May I take the liberty of asking which phones have you used before? I have read a few threads and the general consensus is that this phone is smoother than the 'so-called' flagships like the GS4 and the One. Would you happen to agree? As I said before, I just need a phone that works without lag. I am not a heavy user by any means. Texting, whatsapp and a few occasional games like the Clash of Clans. The GPU is quite capable from what I have heard

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May I take the liberty of asking which phones have you used before? I have read a few threads and the general consensus is that this phone is smoother than the 'so-called' flagships like the GS4 and the One. Would you happen to agree? As I said before, I just need a phone that works without lag. I am not a heavy user by any means. Texting, whatsapp and a few occasional games like the Clash of Clans. The GPU is quite capable from what I have heard
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ya the phone is just as quick if not quicker than those flagship phones. while its hardware is not "superior" the code behind everything and the processors set up how they are make it just as snappy as those other phones. I never owned either of the two you described but I have played with them all for enough time. You won't be disappointed with the phone at all. A lot of people think it is the best android phone generally that has been released. I;'m in that boat. Closes equivalent to an apple product (flow , feel, etc) that I have used. Those other phones are great as well. Id go htc one over sg4. I was about to buy those phones but then held out to see when/if the moto x was going to be released. Glad I did. went with this phone over those. The size of the phone is perfect for me. I don't like huge screens that barely fit in my pcoket. Battery life is solid (i dont use this things for 6 hours a day like others, not sure how they generate an income ha). the features are amazing and change how you use your phone. Truely the first phone I have seen that released some cool features that were extremely useful and not just eye candy. Google backing moto is a big plus too, you know that if anyone is going to get good treatment, it will at least have to be moto. take the plunge, no chance you will regret it.

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ya the phone is just as quick if not quicker than those flagship phones. while its hardware is not "superior" the code behind everything and the processors set up how they are make it just as snappy as those other phones. I never owned either of the two you described but I have played with them all for enough time. You won't be disappointed with the phone at all. A lot of people think it is the best android phone generally that has been released. I;'m in that boat. Closes equivalent to an apple product (flow , feel, etc) that I have used. Those other phones are great as well. Id go htc one over sg4. I was about to buy those phones but then held out to see when/if the moto x was going to be released. Glad I did. went with this phone over those. The size of the phone is perfect for me. I don't like huge screens that barely fit in my pcoket. Battery life is solid (i dont use this things for 6 hours a day like others, not sure how they generate an income ha). the features are amazing and change how you use your phone. Truely the first phone I have seen that released some cool features that were extremely useful and not just eye candy. Google backing moto is a big plus too, you know that if anyone is going to get good treatment, it will at least have to be moto. take the plunge, no chance you will regret it.
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Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out. Moto X, here I come :highfive:

Relocked bootloader and did repair.

Sooo I'm starting to get really annoyed about this so called "high end" phone now. And as a consumer beeing the testpilot of new software.
Word to Sony, do not implement new software until it really works.
Well I relocked bootloader because my camera caused freeze or reboots from time to time. I ran the repair from Sony update.
Voila! Now the touchscreen behaves weird from time to time. And the viewing angles has bothered me from start.
My old Xperia V is outperforming this atm. What's up with this, it's always like this when major updates arrive I've noticed.
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Probably have nothing to do with it, but just for my personal curiosity, did you Restored TA?
EDIT: Now I remember, you did not. My Bad...sorry...

Nope I didn't back my TA up. All the services seems to work anyway I noticed.
Didn't think Sony update would allow me to to do a repair since I thought it was based on the DRM keys. Funny enough some services that wasn't there before suddenly are there aswell.
But it seems to have changed so that my screen acts weird and it sometimes crash applications. The camera have worked good so far wit better pictures aswell. I will test it abit more during the day.
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Sorry to say this, but you cannot blame sony for a phone that is not functioning correctly when you have unlocked the bootloader.
They quite clearly say this
http://prntscr.com/3eh5ze
and that is taken from thier official page about unlocking the bootloader http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
I know this does not help, but this is not the place to vent frustrations when you have modified the software they implemented on the device they sold you and then complain that the this causes bad performance.
Every one of us here should realise that this is a developers site and that modifications and customisations to a fully stock firmware are done at our risk and come with no guarantee of improve performance.
Also, there is no guarantee of reverting back...
we take as part of the risk of helping developers. There are extremely few finalised products on this site, 99% are works in progress.

although.
gregbradley said:
Sorry to say this, but you cannot blame sony for a phone that is not functioning correctly when you have unlocked the bootloader.
They quite clearly say this
http://prntscr.com/3eh5ze
and that is taken from thier official page about unlocking the bootloader http://unlockbootloader.sonymobile.com/
I know this does not help, but this is not the place to vent frustrations when you have modified the software they implemented on the device they sold you and then complain that the this causes bad performance.
Every one of us here should realise that this is a developers site and that modifications and customisations to a fully stock firmware are done at our risk and come with no guarantee of improve performance.
Also, there is no guarantee of reverting back...
we take as part of the risk of helping developers. There are extremely few finalised products on this site, 99% are works in progress.
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Although, there are others having issues with the display as far as ive read. And most of them are on stock firmware with locked bootloader.
The hardware itself should work in any case if you are on stock software with or without the DRM keys. And tbh, in latest software it seems to me that the DRM aint used at all. If a DRM key would be required, that entire serivce wouldnt be avaialbe at all. Also, the Sony Update repair wouldnt update/repair the phone if it was based on DRM keys. The Sony Update does not work if i have my bootloader unlocked. But as said, relocking it again with flashtool makes it work just like it is supposed to. And this tells me that DRM keys are not beeing used since they are put there so that you can use "special" services that Sony wants you to use on stock phone. And theese services are started and working without the DRM keys. Even the warranty is valid after a unlocked bootloader after i spoke to a person at Sony, since they would accept my phone to check under warranty. And it says like this from what ive read "unlocking the bootloader MAY void your warranty".
So the problems i have or have had are problems that even ppl who never "fiddled" with their software or bootloader also have. Atleast thats what ive found when i did a quick search for it on google. And the problems were there even before KitKat. Stock software is always stock software.
Sorry for venting my frustration but the support forum at Sony are just filled with standard answers. At this place there are actually developers and i belive that information from this forum actually reach the developers at Sony faster.
Anyone know when the .761 will be released officially btw ? Im hoping a bug fix will arrive soon to fix the problems that ppl are having. If that doesent work i will send my unit to sony for service. If no one wants to buy it from me before

hmm... i know the repair function of update service still work even u relock your bootloader without TA
and the screen strange behavior is common on z1
did u put ur z1 into water?? if u did dont worry, it may recover itself in few days (once a time, after i put into water, the screen behave strange for few days. it went back to normal soon though)

No I didn't expose it to water. It started after I did the repair with Sony update. But "knock on wood", I haven't had any issues yet today. Not even camera has restarted the phone yet.
I however received the wrong kind of screenprotector. I will change it to what I've used on all other phones wich has worked great. Although it worked perfectly with rooted phone and other software so don't think that's the problem.
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New to Xperia, what to consider?

Hey there.
I'm new to the Xperia scene, before I had various Samsung devices since the S1.
This means I'm pretty spoiled. The first thing I usually did on my S devices was rooting and installing CyanogenmodLineageOS, and it always worked flawlessly.
Now coming to the Xperia devices, what will the problems be that I'll face?
From what I've seen in the guides section, unlocking, rooting and TWRP is possible and already available, but there are some caveats with unlocking (loosing some proprietary features).
Second, what are the chances of getting LOS for this device?

im also new here and this finally looks like my kind of smartphone. Its small, premium and has pretty damn good features including a headphone jack! Currently on a OnePlus 5 and its.... okay? They really cheaped out on lots of things to make the stupid camera better which it still kinda sucks. Especially the glass on the front.... ive got scratches galore and it sits in my left pocket ALONE CONSTANTLY. the fact that it has any scratches is bullsh**.
Enough ranting, I'd love for this thread to get more attention! I just really want to know what this thing will cost. hopefully under 500.... or even less than that. Its a tiny phone cmon price tag.... wondering how this battery will do and what kind of dev support it will be getting! definitely will check up whenever this thing comes out

Where do you see the root is available? There is only a bounty thread to someone find a rooting method. And I think due to Android 8 and it's new features it will be not easy.
So for now accept the Sony stock ROM, Sony makes pretty clean ROMs so it should be a joy for you to use something new
About loosing some functionality (like Sony DRMem photo processing, Track ID license etc.), on previous Xperias you loose these functions only when you're unlocking the bootloader. If there is a rooting method with locked bootloader then you loose nothing (for example on Z3 Compact).

Davka said:
Where do you see the root is available? There is only a bounty thread to someone find a rooting method. And I think due to Android 8 and it's new features it will be not easy.
So for now accept the Sony stock ROM, Sony makes pretty clean ROMs so it should be a joy for you to use something new
About loosing some functionality (like Sony DRMem photo processing, Track ID license etc.), on previous Xperias you loose these functions only when you're unlocking the bootloader. If there is a rooting method with locked bootloader then you loose nothing (for example on Z3 Compact).
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With Root, I was referring to the "All Things XPERIA" thread, and to unlocking the bootloader.
Should be no problem to achieve root like that, however then there's the DRM-stuff...
The ROM itself is fine, but I tend to rely on some things like Titanium Backup and Tasker.
Guess the Xperia line isn't the best choice for me after all.
Shame cause I already preordered ;D

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With Root, I was referring to the "All Things XPERIA" thread, and to unlocking the bootloader.
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Bare in mind that is a general reference for previous devices and until XPERIA devs get devices with Oreo then it's going to be a waiting game.