Okay I am wanting get a Moto X soon with my contact expiring, and I am in to custom ROMs, rooting etc, but when I search the Moto X there's information i'm confused on.
First can non developer editions be unlocked? I am with Alltel atm which is a CDMA carrier who have the regular Moto X, can that be unlocked?
They are being slowly taken over and transitioned to GSM by AT&T, I like the idea of the Moto X but if I can't both root it and unlock the boot loader I am going to skip it.
I don't have the kind of money to buy the developer edition just to use it on my current carrier.
Thank you in advanced!
The moto x DE isn't much more than the regular one. What carrier? Verizon and at&t can't be unlocked. Or rooted if they come with 4.4.2.
Honestly, if your into flashing And whatnot....you want the N5. No question.
As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.
If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
kj2112 said:
As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.
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Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.
eksasol said:
If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.
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The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
FreakyFreakGA said:
The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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Yes, but I heard with ATT and Verizon not yet for ver 4.4.2, I could be wrong. But as long as you buy unlocked version getting bootloader unlocked is very easy.
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The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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At the moment, if you're already on 4.4.2 with a Verizon or at&t retail phone....there's no way to root.
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Looking to get a moto x, I have a gs4 but I got a warranty replacement and can't unlock boot loader to install a custom ROM. So was looking into a Vzw moto x, my only concern is how long is it gonna take Vzw to get 4.4 on the moto x if it never gets an unlocked boot loader so that we can install custom roms. Any input?
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kregstrong said:
Looking to get a moto x, I have a gs4 but I got a warranty replacement and can't unlock boot loader to install a custom ROM. So was looking into a Vzw moto x, my only concern is how long is it gonna take Vzw to get 4.4 on the moto x if it never gets an unlocked boot loader so that we can install custom roms. Any input?
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From what I understand the chances of unlocking the bootloader on a Verizon Moto X will not be likely. There is root available for all variants of the Moto X and we are supposed to be getting some sort of bootstrap that will bypass the bootloader and allow us to flash custom roms kind of like Loki on the S4. Also from what I understand rooting and flashing roms on Verizon/ATT devices will become harder as we progress to newer versions of Android due to security and such. As far as when Verizon will release 4.4 for the X, your guess is as good as anyone else's. I would bet it will be before the Verizon S4 gets it though.
All of that aside, I think you would be happy with the Moto X. I know several S4 converts who haven't regretted it for a minute.
I'm a bit confused on the vzw moto x. Here's why-
My brother has the razor m. Well roms are only avialable if u didn't take the ota. Cause the ota locked the bootloader and every rom dev is still only making roms for the unlocked bootloader. They are not making roms for the locked bootloader. And i Don't want to be in that situation.
And the moto x just had a ota to.
So is there roms for the vzw moto x after the ota, or only before the ota?
One person said I had to get the developers edition (I think)..well Iwent to vzw and the sales rep said they don't carry a developers edition, and that he said "Idont think there is one for this phone".
So what's the deal abt roming a vzw moto x? I know very well abt safestrap, and twrp and that roms are only compatible with one another and not both...
Thanks
93fuelslut said:
I'm a bit confused on the vzw moto x. Here's why-
My brother has the razor m. Well roms are only avialable if u didn't take the ota. Cause the ota locked the bootloader and every rom dev is still only making roms for the unlocked bootloader. They are not making roms for the locked bootloader. And i Don't want to be in that situation.
And the moto x just had a ota to.
So is there roms for the vzw moto x after the ota, or only before the ota?
One person said I had to get the developers edition (I think)..well Iwent to vzw and the sales rep said they don't carry a developers edition, and that he said "Idont think there is one for this phone".
So what's the deal abt roming a vzw moto x? I know very well abt safestrap, and twrp and that roms are only compatible with one another and not both...
Thanks
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can only get Verizon dev edition here:
http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html
93fuelslut said:
I'm a bit confused on the vzw moto x. Here's why-
My brother has the razor m. Well roms are only avialable if u didn't take the ota. Cause the ota locked the bootloader and every rom dev is still only making roms for the unlocked bootloader. They are not making roms for the locked bootloader. And i Don't want to be in that situation.
And the moto x just had a ota to.
So is there roms for the vzw moto x after the ota, or only before the ota?
One person said I had to get the developers edition (I think)..well Iwent to vzw and the sales rep said they don't carry a developers edition, and that he said "Idont think there is one for this phone".
So what's the deal abt roming a vzw moto x? I know very well abt safestrap, and twrp and that roms are only compatible with one another and not both...
Thanks
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Before the update you can root and load safestrap, after the update you are screwed (there are some caveats but that's the basic consensus).
Big Red sales reps want to sell you a phone they have, why would they direct you to Motorola to buy a phone? http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html
650$!!!!! Is there no way to get it at an upgrade price? That's fn crazy
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93fuelslut said:
650$!!!!! Is there no way to get it at an upgrade price? That's fn crazy
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Yes. There is no way to get it at the upgrade price because it's sold by Motorola, not Verizon.
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Hi again,
Is it possible install a Dev Edition ROM on a "common" Moto X?
Thanks!
alrojas said:
Hi again,
Is it possible install a Dev Edition ROM on a "common" Moto X?
Thanks!
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The Dev edition Roms aren't one byte different from the regular ones.
The vzw Dev edition uses the regular xt1060 ROM.
The GSM Dev edition use the T-Mobile xt1053 ROM.
What are you trying to accomplish?!?
samwathegreat said:
The Dev edition Roms aren't one byte different from the regular ones.
The vzw Dev edition uses the regular xt1060 ROM.
The GSM Dev edition use the T-Mobile xt1053 ROM.
What are you trying to accomplish?!?
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I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
alrojas said:
I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
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There is no hardware or software difference besides the unlockable bootloader. When the bootloader exploit gets released, unlock your device, and it will be nearly the same. (I only say nearly because I feel like i'm forgetting something.
alrojas said:
I just wanna "transform " my regular Moto X to Moto X Dev Edition. So Is it possible?
My Moto X is a XT1058.
Thanks the replys
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That really doesn't make sense....but no. You can't.
There are SEVERAL XT1058s. Which do you have? The AT&T Variant, or a different one?
If you do NOT have the AT&T variant, you can already unlock the bootloader which basically "transforms" it into a DEV edition without doing anything else.
Any phone with an unlocked bootloader *IS* an un-official "DEV" edition. There is nothing "special" about the Dev editions except for their unlockable bootloaders, or rather the fact that they retain their warranty after being unlocked.
I'm not understanding what you intend to gain?
ALL Moto X's have unlockable bootloaders *EXCEPT* for the Verizon, AT&T, and Republic Wireless variants.
The only thing "special" about the dev editions is that they keep their warranty intact after unlocking the bootloader. But if it isn't a device SOLD as a DEV edition, you will void its warranty anyways.
And if you happen to have the AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, see the thread in General titled "China Middleman Back" - that guy sells codes that unlock the bootloader on the locked variants. If you pay him and get a code, your phone will be a non-official DEV edition. If you DON'T have AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, you can *already* unlock it *FREE* from Moto's official unlock website.
samwathegreat said:
That really doesn't make sense....but no. You can't.
There are SEVERAL XT1058s. Which do you have? The AT&T Variant, or a different one?
If you do NOT have the AT&T variant, you can already unlock the bootloader which basically "transforms" it into a DEV edition without doing anything else.
Any phone with an unlocked bootloader *IS* an un-official "DEV" edition. There is nothing "special" about the Dev editions except for their unlockable bootloaders, or rather the fact that they retain their warranty after being unlocked.
I'm not understanding what you intend to gain?
ALL Moto X's have unlockable bootloaders *EXCEPT* for the Verizon, AT&T, and Republic Wireless variants.
The only thing "special" about the dev editions is that they keep their warranty intact after unlocking the bootloader. But if it isn't a device SOLD as a DEV edition, you will void its warranty anyways.
And if you happen to have the AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, see the thread in General titled "China Middleman Back" - that guy sells codes that unlock the bootloader on the locked variants. If you pay him and get a code, your phone will be a non-official DEV edition. If you DON'T have AT&T, Verizon, or Republic Wireless variant, you can *already* unlock it *FREE* from Moto's official unlock website.
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@samwathegreat can i flash a Galaxy Note 3 rom? I want to transform my maxx to a note 3. I really like the bigger screen.
Wut?
Hi, first let me say that i did search and didn't find the right answer. I just wanna know if is possible to flash the stock rom of the Pure Edition Moto X on the Verizon Moto X, if yes, how, if no, what's the best method to clean up the stock verizon rom . Thank you.
First off, I'm going to say no. The Pure ROM would be set up for a GSM phone. Also what would be the benefit? I believe the only difference in Pure vs VZW is that the Pure can be unlocked. Secondly, when you say clean up, what do you mean?
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First off, I'm going to say no. The Pure ROM would be set up for a GSM phone. Also what would be the benefit? I believe the only difference in Pure vs VZW is that the Pure can be unlocked. Secondly, when you say clean up, what do you mean?
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He probably means debloat and remove all of the VZW nonsense that is installed.
Without root privileges you can only disable Verizon apps not remove them, sorry. And the odds of this phone ever getting rooted are pretty slim.
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked
adity said:
I don't know if vzw provides unlock codes.
But what I can say is warranty won't affect your chance of getting an unlock code.
You should check on moto website.
If you enter the imei number they'll tell you whether it can be unlocked
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Eh, thanks I was hoping to get it from motorola cause sunshine isn't working either cause it requires root, link of a working root method for locked boot loader would be much appreciated.
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David Neon said:
Hello All! I Have Moto X
Model: XT1060
Carrier: Verizon Wireless,
As My Phone Is out Of Warranty Now Can I ask Moto/VZW For An Unlock Code For Unlocking My Moto X's Bootloader ?
Any Help Would Be Appreciated.
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No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.
KidJoe said:
No. Moto will never give out the bootloader unlock code on the Non-Developer Edition XT1060 (likely due to their contract with Verizon), and Verizon does not give them out (for dev edition either).
And with the locked bootloader, once 4.4.4 is on your phone, you can't root it.
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Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
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David Neon said:
Well that's sad.. , BTW I found a root method for locked boot loader for vz's moto x on rootzwiki, Will that work ?
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Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918
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Its likely for an OLDER ROM.
There were about 3 or 4 different processes for X with a locked bootloader, but it was based on ROM version on the phone (i.e. 4.2.2 w/camera update, 4.4, 4.42). Once 4.4.4 is on there, all past vulnerabilities that were exploited on phones with locked bootloaders have been patched/closed, so if you have 4.4.4 on the phone and can't unlock the bootloader, you can't root.
See also -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...w-root-moto-x-confusion-t2826159/post54671918
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Thanks bro, guess I am stuck with a chained phone
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