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[Q] Which Moto X ROM?

Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?

sogrady said:
Having bought a Moto X off eBay that's preloaded with an American Movil build, I'd like to upgrade that to something more current. Assuming I can figure out how to flash it in the first place - haven't had any luck getting a reply to this proposed flashing process yet - what build should I apply given that it's an XT1058 device intended to be used on AT&T's network. I can apply the AT&T ROM, of course, but that reportedly comes with bloatware.
And in an ideal world, I'd get my OTAs from someone other than the carrier; currently America Movil, maybe AT&T in future. Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device, and if so, would I be likely to be upgraded more quickly? If not, does anyone have any recommended builds that are compatible with AT&T's network that are better than the AT&T ROM?
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I would suggest unlocking the boot loader, flashing either cwm or twrp recovery and finally flashing superuser. Keep in mind that unlocking the bootlaoder will void your warranty.
The benefit to this route is you will maintain root access, also you can easily flash Roms without the problems that cone along with pwnymymoto and safestrap.
Cm10.2 is around the corner and there's already a T-Mobile ROM that has the camera update included
Sent on my Moto X

sogrady said:
Is it possible, for example, to apply the Developer's Edition ROM to an XT1058 device?
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I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.

aduane said:
I would like an answer to this, if anyone knows.
I want to get a colored one through at&t, but I want the developer's edition rom with their OTAs. Kind of like how people are making their carrier HTC One's into google play editions.
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don't think there is a dev edition rom to my knowledge. I haven't really read much about people saying the dev editions had anything different besides and unlockable bootloader which you don't have so you will only be able to flash roms through Safestrap if you haven't taken any OTA's yet.

While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.

sogrady said:
While it should have been obvious, it's worth letting people know that the AT&T ROMs disable tethering. Again, most people probably know this, but coming from Nexus devices it hadn't even occurred to me. So if there is a dev edition ROM floating around out there where this isn't disabled by default, I'd love to see it.
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There is a Dev Edition ROM and it is the exact same ROM as the T-Mobile ROM which is the only Retail ROM.

somebody please help on the rooting situation

I'm a bit confused on the vzw moto x. Here's why-
My brother has the razor m. Well roms are only avialable if u didn't take the ota. Cause the ota locked the bootloader and every rom dev is still only making roms for the unlocked bootloader. They are not making roms for the locked bootloader. And i Don't want to be in that situation.
And the moto x just had a ota to.
So is there roms for the vzw moto x after the ota, or only before the ota?
One person said I had to get the developers edition (I think)..well Iwent to vzw and the sales rep said they don't carry a developers edition, and that he said "Idont think there is one for this phone".
So what's the deal abt roming a vzw moto x? I know very well abt safestrap, and twrp and that roms are only compatible with one another and not both...
Thanks

93fuelslut said:
I'm a bit confused on the vzw moto x. Here's why-
My brother has the razor m. Well roms are only avialable if u didn't take the ota. Cause the ota locked the bootloader and every rom dev is still only making roms for the unlocked bootloader. They are not making roms for the locked bootloader. And i Don't want to be in that situation.
And the moto x just had a ota to.
So is there roms for the vzw moto x after the ota, or only before the ota?
One person said I had to get the developers edition (I think)..well Iwent to vzw and the sales rep said they don't carry a developers edition, and that he said "Idont think there is one for this phone".
So what's the deal abt roming a vzw moto x? I know very well abt safestrap, and twrp and that roms are only compatible with one another and not both...
Thanks
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can only get Verizon dev edition here:
http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html

93fuelslut said:
I'm a bit confused on the vzw moto x. Here's why-
My brother has the razor m. Well roms are only avialable if u didn't take the ota. Cause the ota locked the bootloader and every rom dev is still only making roms for the unlocked bootloader. They are not making roms for the locked bootloader. And i Don't want to be in that situation.
And the moto x just had a ota to.
So is there roms for the vzw moto x after the ota, or only before the ota?
One person said I had to get the developers edition (I think)..well Iwent to vzw and the sales rep said they don't carry a developers edition, and that he said "Idont think there is one for this phone".
So what's the deal abt roming a vzw moto x? I know very well abt safestrap, and twrp and that roms are only compatible with one another and not both...
Thanks
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Before the update you can root and load safestrap, after the update you are screwed (there are some caveats but that's the basic consensus).
Big Red sales reps want to sell you a phone they have, why would they direct you to Motorola to buy a phone? http://www.motorola.com/us/shop-all...Verizon/moto-x-developer-edition-verizon.html

650$!!!!! Is there no way to get it at an upgrade price? That's fn crazy
sent from your moms phone

93fuelslut said:
650$!!!!! Is there no way to get it at an upgrade price? That's fn crazy
sent from your moms phone
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Yes. There is no way to get it at the upgrade price because it's sold by Motorola, not Verizon.
Sent from my XT1060

Worth every penny
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Need A Few Questions Answered.

Okay I am wanting get a Moto X soon with my contact expiring, and I am in to custom ROMs, rooting etc, but when I search the Moto X there's information i'm confused on.
First can non developer editions be unlocked? I am with Alltel atm which is a CDMA carrier who have the regular Moto X, can that be unlocked?
They are being slowly taken over and transitioned to GSM by AT&T, I like the idea of the Moto X but if I can't both root it and unlock the boot loader I am going to skip it.
I don't have the kind of money to buy the developer edition just to use it on my current carrier.
Thank you in advanced!

The moto x DE isn't much more than the regular one. What carrier? Verizon and at&t can't be unlocked. Or rooted if they come with 4.4.2.
Honestly, if your into flashing And whatnot....you want the N5. No question.
As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.

If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
kj2112 said:
As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.
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Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.

eksasol said:
If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.
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The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?

FreakyFreakGA said:
The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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Yes, but I heard with ATT and Verizon not yet for ver 4.4.2, I could be wrong. But as long as you buy unlocked version getting bootloader unlocked is very easy.
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FreakyFreakGA said:
The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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At the moment, if you're already on 4.4.2 with a Verizon or at&t retail phone....there's no way to root.

New (to me) Moto X Questions

I just bought a Moto X DE from Swappa to use on my T-Mobile and I have a couple of questions.
I'll be reading the forums so I'm sure I'll find many answers, but I know for some reason I'll just have a hard time finding some even if they are right in my face.
1) Is the 4.4.4 update out for it yet or so I need to unlock/recovery before I can get 4.4.4 I am only interested in AOSP/Google ROM's not CM, PA, or any of the others.
2) How, if at all is the DE ROM different? Or is it just the Bootloader being unlockable the only difference?
3) I am thinking of changing the White back out with a black one. I have seen the guide but my only worry is that the back may not be as tight after I do it due to having to release some of the glue. Will the back still be tight?
4) Anything else I may find interesting? Any Must know tips/tricks.

knitler said:
I just bought a Moto X DE from Swappa to use on my T-Mobile and I have a couple of questions.
I'll be reading the forums so I'm sure I'll find many answers, but I know for some reason I'll just have a hard time finding some even if they are right in my face.
1) Is the 4.4.4 update out for it yet or so I need to unlock/recovery before I can get 4.4.4 I am only interested in AOSP/Google ROM's not CM, PA, or any of the others.
2) How, if at all is the DE ROM different? Or is it just the Bootloader being unlockable the only difference?
3) I am thinking of changing the White back out with a black one. I have seen the guide but my only worry is that the back may not be as tight after I do it due to having to release some of the glue. Will the back still be tight?
4) Anything else I may find interesting? Any Must know tips/tricks.
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I have the DE on VZW
1) i'm not sure, but I beleive its out for Tmobile. You should not need to unlock or do anythign else as long as the device has stock OS and boot-loader
2) the roms are not different other than being designed for slightly different devices, even the Verizon Droid lines share a very similar rom with the X. That being said, do not flash any rom that is not designed for your specific build (xt1058, My DE is xt1060) Also, once you take an OTA, this device does not like to be downgraded, even tho its a DE, its not a nexus that you can just flash any OS version to.
3) I have not replaced a back yet, i cant answer this, but i would be interested in your findings, as i may replace my back some day.
4) Moto did a great job with the software on this device, The stock rom is great. Xposed is all that is needed to bring the look and feel of a custom rom.

Thanks, the only changes I plan to make is Root + maybe flash a kernel and OC the CPU to 1.9/2GHz and play with the DPI settings.

One thing, yes you do have to unlock the bootloader on the moto site. ?

I dont think 4.4.4 is out for tmobile yet. I have the gsm dev edition, haven't gotten it yet nor have i heard/seen anything about it. But it will come soon I hope!
As far as i know the only difference is the unlockable bootloader, ROM is the same otherwise.
If you're planning to root, check out xposed and gravity box.. that combo makes this phone super customizable and you don't need any custom roms ever!

vikramkhalsa said:
I dont think 4.4.4 is out for tmobile yet. I have the gsm dev edition, haven't gotten it yet nor have i heard/seen anything about it. But it will come soon I hope!
As far as i know the only difference is the unlockable bootloader, ROM is the same otherwise.
If you're planning to root, check out xposed and gravity box.. that combo makes this phone super customizable and you don't need any custom roms ever!
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Just got the device, it has 4.4.3. So it looks like I'll root before I get any farther.

[Q] Converting xt1097 to pure edition

I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie

Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
Sent from my Moto X

I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
johnny grep said:
Have you tried unlocking your bootloader? It seems to me the Telus version is pretty much a Pure Edition, except for the model number... BTW does it have any TELUS bloatware at all?
FYI I believe the 1095 has different frequency bands.
Sent from my Moto X
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Jercote said:
I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
As far as bloatware, the only thing Telus installed on this phone is their "My Account" app. It's an app that you can download from the play store.
It's interesting to see the marketing used on Telus' website to describe the Moto X. The catchphrases are: "Pure Style, Pure performance" and then "Pure Android with the quickest updates". It leads me to believe that Telus will pretty much push out updates as they recieve them from Moto.
I'll be less inclined to root and flash if I see that I get timely updates, after using galaxy phones and flashing for the past 5 years i just want something that works great or of the box.
Regards,
Jeremie
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I have a brazilian version, also model XT1097 from carrier Vivo and I was able to unlock the bootloader and root it normally. Would like to know the difference between the XT1095 and XT1097 though.

Jercote said:
I have not because as far as i understood the method was exclusively for the xt1095 but I'll give it a shot.
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I have XT1093 (US Cellular). The Pure Edition root method works for all variants with unlockable bootloaders. The key is to follow the directions completely. As it only BOOTS the system image rather than INSTALLS the image, it works fine. Boots the image once, installs SU to your system, then reboots to your system.

Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?

oxxshadow said:
hey, I was thinking of getting a Moto X, and was wondering, is the one sold at Telus 16 or 32 GB?
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Only the 16GB

I thought I was getting a Pure Edition when I bought the unlocked version from Motorola's mexican website, but I got the xt1097... if this is possible that would be great as I believe the pure edition will get updates faster

Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.

plasticdarlow said:
Could anybody supply the modem for the Telus xt1097? I converted my phone and forgot to backup the modem.
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I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.

Jercote said:
I have a Telus XT1097. I know that without having a root method atm it is still just speculation but are we aware of any hardware differences or other issues that would make a convert to pure edition (xt1095) impossible?
Thanks in advance!
Jeremie
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Methodikull said:
I have the xt1097, if you can help me do it I will send you the modem for it.
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Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.

I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
Sent from my XT1097 using XDA Free mobile app

Methodikull said:
I mean how can I back up the modem file for you
Sent from my XT1097 using XDA Free mobile app
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not exactly sure how
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UPDATE:
I flashed the modem from the multitool and I have Data again.

338lm said:
Official factory image is now available from Motorola! https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/recovery-images
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Give it a try now!

It was asking you for unlocking cuz Att modem is sim locked.
So did you manage to successfully convert to 1095? I'd like to try, but I'm a bit worried about the modem issues, I'd need a sim unlocked modem i can use with Brazilian operators.
I'm a noob in moto x developing, so I'm already reading what multitool is and how-to's.
Moto X (2nd Gen) XT-1097
Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 (2012) N-8000
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plasticdarlow said:
Sure thing,
I used the multitool to flash that Pure Edition Moto X 2014 (XT1095) ROM (full wipe)
Then flashed ATT Modem (downloaded from graffixnyc website)
Then sidloaded OTA update
Then restored my EFS from my TWRP backup.
Everything booted up fine, except I don't have a cell signal. It asks me for a SIM network unlock PIN. I'm stuck here.... I want to try and flash the telus modem. Not sure why it's asking for a SIM unlock PIN.
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Any luck getting your phone working? You have an XT1097 right?

Hey guys,
Telus XT1097 user here.
Trying to flash back to stock so I can get some lollipop action.
Which factory image should I be installing here ? I don't think our phones are dev editions / pure editions...
Thanks !

Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.

I have a 1097, but i haven't done anything yet, i don't wanna mess up my brand new phone LOL
i'm reading about the changes to 1095 and mostly the modem issue.

floepie said:
Here is everything you need guys.
http://www.techtastic.nl/android/motorola/installeer-android-5-0-lollipop-op-de-moto-x-xt1092/
It's in Dutch but gives you step by step instructions how to backup your modem and restore it using dd commands. A google translate should suffice.
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I wonder if that only works on some XT1097 phones, I got a "Permission Denied" error when I tried it on mine.