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Looking to get a moto x, I have a gs4 but I got a warranty replacement and can't unlock boot loader to install a custom ROM. So was looking into a Vzw moto x, my only concern is how long is it gonna take Vzw to get 4.4 on the moto x if it never gets an unlocked boot loader so that we can install custom roms. Any input?
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kregstrong said:
Looking to get a moto x, I have a gs4 but I got a warranty replacement and can't unlock boot loader to install a custom ROM. So was looking into a Vzw moto x, my only concern is how long is it gonna take Vzw to get 4.4 on the moto x if it never gets an unlocked boot loader so that we can install custom roms. Any input?
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From what I understand the chances of unlocking the bootloader on a Verizon Moto X will not be likely. There is root available for all variants of the Moto X and we are supposed to be getting some sort of bootstrap that will bypass the bootloader and allow us to flash custom roms kind of like Loki on the S4. Also from what I understand rooting and flashing roms on Verizon/ATT devices will become harder as we progress to newer versions of Android due to security and such. As far as when Verizon will release 4.4 for the X, your guess is as good as anyone else's. I would bet it will be before the Verizon S4 gets it though.
All of that aside, I think you would be happy with the Moto X. I know several S4 converts who haven't regretted it for a minute.

[Q] What are the advantages of Dev Edition?

What are the advantages, if any, of the Moto X Developer Edition? Right now it is a $50 premium for the dev edition, but if I can accomplish the same thing on my own with a regular Moto X, is it really worth the extra $50?

coreno said:
What are the advantages, if any, of the Moto X Developer Edition? Right now it is a $50 premium for the dev edition, but if I can accomplish the same thing on my own with a regular Moto X, is it really worth the extra $50?
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the only thing you will see is it allows you to unlock the bootloader which makes rooting possible on all OTA's because you can just flash a customer recovery.
also when you unlock the bootloader on a consumer Moto X you void warranty when you do it on a DE Moto X it dose not.

dray_jr said:
the only thing you will see is it allows you to unlock the bootloader which makes rooting possible on all OTA's because you can just flash a customer recovery.
also when you unlock the bootloader on a consumer Moto X you void warranty when you do it on a DE Moto X it dose not.
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Also, you get 32gb vs 16gb of storage.

The Dev Edition is also 32 GB, so it's actually the same price as the 32 GB carrier edition.

Can you do a full nandroid on the regular edition?
Also, I've read on twitter the non-dev edition may be locked down for good on 4.4.2.
If you want root, you may as well get the Dev edition to guarantee it.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

coreno said:
What are the advantages, if any, of the Moto X Developer Edition? Right now it is a $50 premium for the dev edition, but if I can accomplish the same thing on my own with a regular Moto X, is it really worth the extra $50?
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If you don't care about the astheitcs then yes it's worth it!! You get an unlocked bootloader ANd Motorola will still backup up the warranty. As to what extent they will back the warranty you would have to ask customer service.
Hope that helps

Schaweet said:
Can you do a full nandroid on the regular edition?
Also, I've read on twitter the non-dev edition may be locked down for good on 4.4.2.
If you want root, you may as well get the Dev edition to guarantee it.
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Yes you can do a nandroid on any moto with a unlocked boot loader
No we are not locked in anymore than you are , the new bootloader 30.b4 can not be downgrade , that goes also for developer editions
There's no differences between de and regular editions with a unlocked booloader. The differences are the warranty, our warranty is void as soon as we unlock as yours is still valid
Firmware is exactly the same
Sent on my Gummy running Lenoto X

Schaweet said:
Can you do a full nandroid on the regular edition?
Also, I've read on twitter the non-dev edition may be locked down for good on 4.4.2.
If you want root, you may as well get the Dev edition to guarantee it.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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There is a thread linking to Moto's site where you can unlock bootloader's on non DE devices but it removes your warranty.

drago10029 said:
There is a thread linking to Moto's site where you can unlock bootloader's on non DE devices but it removes your warranty.
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I wish they allowed the Verizon version to be unlocked

flashallthetime said:
Yes you can do a nandroid on any moto with a unlocked boot loader
No we are not locked in anymore than you are , the new bootloader 30.b4 can not be downgrade , that goes also for developer editions
There's no differences between de and regular editions with a unlocked booloader. The differences are the warranty, our warranty is void as soon as we unlock as yours is still valid
Firmware is exactly the same
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Hahaha....thats not what I meant. I meant a regular AT&T and Verizon Edition.
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I wish they allowed the Verizon version to be unlocked
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Maybe you should have purchased the the Dev Edition. It's not like it was a secret that VZW would lock down their bootloader. They always do.
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flashallthetime said:
Yes you can do a nandroid on any moto with a unlocked boot loader
No we are not locked in anymore than you are , the new bootloader 30.b4 can not be downgrade , that goes also for developer editions
There's no differences between de and regular editions with a unlocked booloader. The differences are the warranty, our warranty is void as soon as we unlock as yours is still valid
Firmware is exactly the same
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Why would someone want to downgrade the bootloader?
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Hahaha....thats not what I meant. I meant a regular AT&T and Verizon Edition.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
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Maybe you should have purchased the the Dev Edition. It's not like it was a secret that VZW would lock down their bootloader. They always do.
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The Verizon regular edition can't be unlocked?

coreno said:
Why would someone want to downgrade the bootloader?
The Verizon regular edition can't be unlocked?
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No it cannot be unlocked. Neither can the AT&T version. You have to get the Dev Edition.
Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X

coreno said:
Why would someone want to downgrade the bootloader?
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The bigger question would be why would someone want to downgrade the firmware as each new firmware release "upgrades" the bootloader. So it appears that once you accept a firmware update on your phone there's no going back. If there is something about the update you can't tolerate you appeared to be screwed, even with a dev ed. At least that's what I'm piecing together. I have a VZ dev ed and will try to flash the modem and system files to see what happens when 4.4.2 comes out as I'd like to keep my options open if for some reason I want to downgrade. FWIW, I've been on android since the original droid and never felt compelled to downgrade but like the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing that I can if I want.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

edthesped said:
The bigger question would be why would someone want to downgrade the firmware as each new firmware release "upgrades" the bootloader. So it appears that once you accept a firmware update on your phone there's no going back. If there is something about the update you can't tolerate you appeared to be screwed, even with a dev ed. At least that's what I'm piecing together. I have a VZ dev ed and will try to flash the modem and system files to see what happens when 4.4.2 comes out as I'd like to keep my options open if for some reason I want to downgrade. FWIW, I've been on android since the original droid and never felt compelled to downgrade but like the warm and fuzzy feeling of knowing that I can if I want.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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4.4.2 isn't out on vzw yet? When it does come out, it sounds like it should be possible to flash it without flashing the bootloader? What effect does the bootloader have on custom roms?
Sorry for some of the newb questions, but my Galaxy Nexus didn't have any issues/concerns with the bootloader that I'm aware of. It was just flash whatever and go.

coreno said:
4.4.2 isn't out on vzw yet? When it does come out, it sounds like it should be possible to flash it without flashing the bootloader? What effect does the bootloader have on custom roms?
Sorry for some of the newb questions, but my Galaxy Nexus didn't have any issues/concerns with the bootloader that I'm aware of. It was just flash whatever and go.
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Ok forget about any former product you've had previously.
Moto is completely different when it comes to boot loaders.
Pm me please, I do not want to explain Why on a open thread as someone will hard brick their device. I gave a thread that's stickied regarding boot loaders and there's an example of why you should not run the 4.4 system while on the 4.4.2 bootloader
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
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flashallthetime said:
Ok forget about any former product you've had previously.
Moto is completely different when it comes to boot loaders.
Pm me please, I do not want to explain Why on a open thread as someone will hard brick their device. I gave a thread that's stickied regarding boot loaders and there's an example of why you should not run the 4.4 system while on the 4.4.2 bootloader
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
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Okay, what about running 4.4.2 system on 4.4 boot loader? When 4.4.2 hits BMW I plan on flashing system and modem files only. I figure worst case I'll bout loop and will have to reinstall 4.4 then decide if it's worth moving forward. I have a custom recovery so I can't accept an ota.
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edthesped said:
Okay, what about running 4.4.2 system on 4.4 boot loader? When 4.4.2 hits VZW I plan on flashing system and modem files only. I figure worst case I'll bout loop and will have to reinstall 4.4 then decide if it's worth moving forward. I have a custom recovery so I can't accept an ota.
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Sorry for the double post i was trying to fix auto correct. I swear i turned it off.
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edthesped said:
Okay, what about running 4.4.2 system on 4.4 boot loader? When 4.4.2 hits BMW I plan on flashing system and modem files only. I figure worst case I'll bout loop and will have to reinstall 4.4 then decide if it's worth moving forward. I have a custom recovery so I can't accept an ota.
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Sorry for the double post i was trying to fix auto correct. I swear i turned it off.
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flashallthetime said:
there's an example of why you should not run the 4.4 system while on the 4.4.2 bootloader
Here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635366
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No. That is an example of why you shouldn't try to downgrade your bootloader. That person's problem was NOT that he was running an old system. It was that he was running a two-versions-old system and then tried to take an OTA meant to upgrade a bootloader from two-versions-old to one-version-old (i.e. 4.2.2 bootloader to 4.4 bootloader but he was already running 4.4.2 bootloader) -- which all translates into he was (however inadvertently) trying to downgrade his bootloader from 4.4.2 version to 4.4

piccit said:
No. That is an example of why you shouldn't try to downgrade your bootloader. That person's problem was NOT that he was running an old system. It was that he was running a two-versions-old system and then tried to take an OTA meant to upgrade a bootloader from two-versions-old to one-version-old (i.e. 4.2.2 bootloader to 4.4 bootloader but he was already running 4.4.2 bootloader) -- which all translates into he was (however inadvertently) trying to downgrade his bootloader from 4.4.2 version to 4.4
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He was trying to do something that should be done, my point was to give people a example of what happens if your boot loaders is 4.4.2 and your system file is on 4.4 and you accept the ota, that simple.
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flashallthetime said:
...to give people a example of what happens if your boot loaders is 4.4.2 and your system file is on 4.4 and you accept the ota, that simple.
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it was running on 4.4.2 software, then i downgrade to 4.2.2. all was fine, but OTA killed it.
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Again, no. His problem was from running 4.2.2.
I don't feel like finding the posts, but others have reported success being on 4.4.2, reflashing 4.4 system + recovery, and taking the 4.4->4.4.2 OTA without problems

Is it possible to root my phone?

Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.

boomhower said:
Please excuse if this has been beaten to death. I've spent the last hour reading and reading an I've just gotten confused. I was heavily into the Android world for quite a while but have been out of it for a couple years. I bought my son a Droid Mini which from what I understand is pretty much the same thing as a Moto X. In the settings menu it says Android Version 4.4 Kernal Version 3.4.42-gfae57e0. I just need to root it. I'm not concerned about flashing ROMs, just need root for an app that requires it. Is it possible or do I need to get a different phone? I must have a root. Again please excuse the noob question but I've gotten a headache trying to make heads or tales of it.
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No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.

bigv5150 said:
No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.

boomhower said:
I guess I'll go that route then. I bought my second hand so returning isn't an option. Can you link me to a thread?
I feel so lost. My last Android two Androids were an EVO and a Droid OG, I feel so lost now. Had a ton of ROMs on those but wow things have changed.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-x-vzw-bootloader-t2659234/page66

bigv5150 said:
No it is not possible to root 4.4 however you have an option there is a guy in China selling bootlloader unlock codes I bought mine and unlocked there are several threads on this site so check it out. The other option is to return the phone and get one you can root or a dev model.
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What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896

nhizzat said:
What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?

nhizzat said:
What? 4.4 and lower can be rooted, 4.4.2 cannot.
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Don't give this guy false hope without reading the OP. He does not have a moto x, He has a droid mini. The droid line cannot be downgraded from 4.4 to 4.2.2, thus his only option is to use the shady Chinese unlockers.
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boomhower said:
Under Android version it says 4.4. But is also says no software updates are available.... Kernal version says 3.4.42 that makes a difference. Guess the question is do I have 4.4 or 4.4.2. If .2 is the latest it should show under updates correct? Or maybe not since it's a Mini and not an X?
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You should get your rooting advice from this area of the forums, it will more closly resemble the options you have available to your device
http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-ultra
VZW droid mini ,ultra, and maxx are all still on 4.4. They cannot be downgraded due to verizon locking the bootloader. You will get confused answers from the moto x owners, as they could downgrade from 4.4 to 4.2.2 and then keep root using some trickery.
While it is true that this trickery would work to on your droid mini if you hadnt yet updated to 4.4, there is no way to revert to 4.2.2 on your device. your best option getting an unlock code from a 3rd party (this voids your warranty)
consider if it is worth it to you
Good luck,

You can't root 4.4 the droid line doesn't have 4.4.2 yet so your on 4.4.
As for the guys being shady selling the code that is absolutely false. Many have bought the code they are very accommodating and helpful. As a matter of fact a few were not able to get the code for what ever reason and were refunded the money. As far as I'm concerned if you want root unlock the boot loader it ain't coming anytime soon.
And further questions should be asked in the ultra section the ultra maxx and mini are the same. The moto x is 99.9% the same but as you can see there are a few differences like they can downgrade 4.4.
As a matter of fact I'm typing this on my maxx running 4.4.2 ported from a moto x. That is what you can do with an unlocked boot loader.

It is possible! I am now the owner of a fully rooted Droid Mini XT1030 running stock 4.4. It took buying a code from the Chinese tab site and a whole lot of help from NWKENT. He should be nominated for some kind of an award. He took the time on a Sunday morning to talk me through it on the phone. He's a saint in my book.

Need A Few Questions Answered.

Okay I am wanting get a Moto X soon with my contact expiring, and I am in to custom ROMs, rooting etc, but when I search the Moto X there's information i'm confused on.
First can non developer editions be unlocked? I am with Alltel atm which is a CDMA carrier who have the regular Moto X, can that be unlocked?
They are being slowly taken over and transitioned to GSM by AT&T, I like the idea of the Moto X but if I can't both root it and unlock the boot loader I am going to skip it.
I don't have the kind of money to buy the developer edition just to use it on my current carrier.
Thank you in advanced!

The moto x DE isn't much more than the regular one. What carrier? Verizon and at&t can't be unlocked. Or rooted if they come with 4.4.2.
Honestly, if your into flashing And whatnot....you want the N5. No question.
As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.

If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
kj2112 said:
As much as I love the X....its not a flashers phone.
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Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.

eksasol said:
If you want to unlock the bootloader, you need to get an GSM version. Get the Dev Edition version so you won't lose your warranty from unlock it.
If you want to flash rom there is no point of getting the Moto X for two reason;
1. There is almost no roms for it.
2. You lose all the features of the Moto X. If you don't want the Moto X features, there is no point of getting it, there are other phones with better specs.
Which I love because now I spend much more time actually using the phone and it's practical features rather than flashing.
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The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?

FreakyFreakGA said:
The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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Yes, but I heard with ATT and Verizon not yet for ver 4.4.2, I could be wrong. But as long as you buy unlocked version getting bootloader unlocked is very easy.
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FreakyFreakGA said:
The Moto X can at least be rooted without the boot loader unlocked correct?
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At the moment, if you're already on 4.4.2 with a Verizon or at&t retail phone....there's no way to root.

[Q] XT1058 to XT1053 (Developper)

Hi,
I got the moto x xt1058, can I flash the developper factory image for the xt1053 so i get the developper edition and get the update faster?
Thank you.

Sure if your bootloader is unlocked. All Moto Xs are technically developer editions, the one difference is the unlock codes will not be provided for the Verizon and AT&T versions.

nhizzat said:
Sure if your bootloader is unlocked. All Moto Xs are technically developer editions, the one difference is the unlock codes will not be provided for the Verizon and AT&T versions.
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Thank you man!

cdeslaur said:
Hi,
I got the moto x xt1058, can I flash the developper factory image for the xt1053 so i get the developper edition and get the update faster?
Thank you.
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A few things to consider...
The Developer Edition does NOT get updates faster than any other model X.
The "unlocked ships with XXX Sim" Moto Maker editions are also XT1053 and get the updates at the same time as the Dev Edition XT1053.
Moto seemed to be rotating what model/carrier got the 2013 X updates in the past (going back to the 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, 4.4, 4.4.2 and 4.4.4). Its likely that Moto will continue this pattern.
The XT1058 and XT1053 support different frequencies (mostly LTE), and have different radio/modem files, that could have an impact on you depending on what frequencies your carrier uses.
the CID of the phone wont be changed. There is a chance this may or may not impact installing OTA's.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do this. (You don't mention who your XT1058 is from, and if its bootloader is unlocked.)

KidJoe said:
A few things to consider...
The Developer Edition does NOT get updates faster than any other model X.
The "unlocked ships with XXX Sim" Moto Maker editions are also XT1053 and get the updates at the same time as the Dev Edition XT1053.
Moto seemed to be rotating what model/carrier got the 2013 X updates in the past (going back to the 4.2.2 w/camera OTA, 4.4, 4.4.2 and 4.4.4). Its likely that Moto will continue this pattern.
The XT1058 and XT1053 support different frequencies (mostly LTE), and have different radio/modem files, that could have an impact on you depending on what frequencies your carrier uses.
the CID of the phone wont be changed. There is a chance this may or may not impact installing OTA's.
Your bootloader needs to be unlocked to do this. (You don't mention who your XT1058 is from, and if its bootloader is unlocked.)
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Thank you,
The reason I thought it would update faster is because I saw that the new moto X pure edition got update faster than the verizon for example. So I tought it would be the same thing for the moto x 2013 and the xt1053 version is the developper edition.
Thank you

cdeslaur said:
Thank you,
The reason I thought it would update faster is because I saw that the new moto X pure edition got update faster than the verizon for example. So I tought it would be the same thing for the moto x 2013 and the xt1053 version is the developper edition.
Thank you
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You can't assume that one device (2013 X) will be the same as another (2014 X).
And for the 2013 X, there are TWO Developer Editions. XT1053 and XT1060. They use the same rom as their retail and motomaker counterparts and got their updates at the same time as their retail/motomaker counterparts.
Example: The GSM Dev Edition is the XT1053, but so is the "Unlocked shipps with T-Mobile SIM" version sold on Moto Maker, same with the "Unlocked Ships with Net10 sim" sold on Moto Maker. They all get the updates at the same time.
And The Developer Edition for Verizon is the XT1060, but so is the Moto Maker or Retail 2013 X for Verizon. They all get their updates at the same time.
There was a thread somewhere that listed the order Moto was rolling out the OTA's. It showed each OTA, and which model X got that OTA first. For one OTA it was the XT1060 (Verizon), for another OTA it was ATT (XT1058), for another it was Sprint (XT1056), and so on.

Wouldn't the GSM dev edition get OTAs faster than an At&t or Verizon (including Verizon dev) editions since their updates have carrier bloatware and need carrier approval?
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spunker88 said:
Wouldn't the GSM dev edition get OTAs faster than an At&t or Verizon (including Verizon dev) editions since their updates have carrier bloatware and need carrier approval?
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Actually the xt1053 was dead last to receive 4.4.4 and was first to get 4.4.3

spunker88 said:
Wouldn't the GSM dev edition get OTAs faster than an At&t or Verizon (including Verizon dev) editions since their updates have carrier bloatware and need carrier approval?
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Not necessarily. Take 4.4.4, XT1053 was one of the last to get it.
Verizon XT1060 got 4.4.4 in last few days of July.. http://www.droid-life.com/2014/07/2...e-now-available-to-all-here-is-the-changelog/
ATT XT1058 got soak in early august, I can't find when they finally pushed to users -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...pdate-now-rolling-out-to-soak-testers-on-att/
Sprint got 4.4.4 End of August -> https://community.sprint.com/baw/message/837886#837886
XT1050/Unlocked/T-Mobile/DevEd got soak in end of Sept, but I can't find when it started actually pushing to all users -> http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...finally-getting-its-android-4-4-4-ota-update/