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TYTN II/Kaiser/Tilt Video fix

Quite a few threads now on the aforementioned topic
1) The one regarding the online petition
So, there are some 13000 signatures. So what? What is going to be done with them?
2) The one regarding proper video drivers
HTC announced in February that a fix was forthcoming at the end of March. Where is it?
3) The one regarding the video driver bounty.
Supposedly some $7000 has been raised. I doubt this. What people pledge and what gets sent are two completely different things. Sorry to be a cynic.
Having had my TYTN II for 3 months, I have monitored this site with interest for any developments. Sadly, if a fix does not transpire soon, then it becomes a wasted cause as the phone will be obsolete very soon...
Time now for action?

I don't think it is going to happen unless HTC decides to do it. Who knows, they could put out a fix today.

Why would you make this thread when there are all the other threads to post in? You haven't stated anything new. Useless thread.

ChumleyEX said:
Why would you make this thread when there are all the other threads to post in? You haven't stated anything new. Useless thread.
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There has been nothing new in any of the other threads for some time. That is my point, what is yours?
And, apologies, didn't realise that there were only a finite number of threads available...

My point is that you should take your questions to those topics so that they answers can be followed. Those threads are their for a reason and that reason is to maintain all the information in one labeled location.

It had nothing to do with a limit on threads, or finite as your referred, it just clutters up the main page with duplicate topic that has a sticky.
I could care less either way, I feel like this post and the sticky haven't done anything toward getting the drivers fixed because HTC said they are going to put our new driver sometime in the future.
To me the both should be deleted.

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My point is that you should take your questions to those topics so that they answers can be followed. Those threads are their for a reason and that reason is to maintain all the information in one labeled location.
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You're not a librarian, are you?
My question relates to 3 different threads. All of which (in my humble opinion) havn't actually achieved very much as of yet other than some moaning and some empty promises. To reiterate... With all of these signatures and all of this promised? cash, who decides when to actually do something and what will that be?
Seems to me that if nothing is going to be done then they might as well lock all of the other threads and this one and we'll look forward to the next great piece of technology (hopefully it'll come with all the extras!)

Well said my friend. I think I will put that in my sig.
yes me am librarian. Want a book?

if their are 3 worthless threads already in your opinion, why add a 4th?

Sad isn't it? That several people can write plenty on the issue of a waste of time thread? Yet no-one can be bothered to comment constructively on the original point I raised: If anything is going to be done...then what? and if not why not close down all of these threads?
Enough on the "why a new thread" theme. Point taken! Now, how about an answer...?

Jetdriver330 said:
Quite a few threads now on the aforementioned topic
1) The one regarding the online petition
So, there are some 13000 signatures. So what? What is going to be done with them?
2) The one regarding proper video drivers
HTC announced in February that a fix was forthcoming at the end of March. Where is it?
3) The one regarding the video driver bounty.
Supposedly some $7000 has been raised. I doubt this. What people pledge and what gets sent are two completely different things. Sorry to be a cynic.
Having had my TYTN II for 3 months, I have monitored this site with interest for any developments. Sadly, if a fix does not transpire soon, then it becomes a wasted cause as the phone will be obsolete very soon...
Time now for action?
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1. They have been shown to the CEO of HTC. what else do you do with a petition?
2. Ask HTC, if we knew the answer to this then there would be a thread.
3. I'm glad you feel that way.. BUT
People are trying to do what they can to make it happen. Look at other threads like
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381254 where they are trying to extract a driver from another phone.
Maybe you have read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355345 where someone has donated a phone to someone to help the cause.
Is that enough action for you?
Regardless of wether or not the phone will be the latest and greatest when the fix does or doesn't happen, there are still people interested in it happening. Not everyone can by every great phone.
NEXT

Your answer is there is no answer. No one knows thats why the other posts don't have any information. Asking the same question multiple times doesn't force an answer. I would know, I have already tried that method.

This thread is dead....
Closed as redundant. This is a thread that never should have been.

Avoiding over air updates for next time...

This over air update, I think everyone can agree, was a complete disaster. It didn't seem to matter whether you were completely stock or rooted, etc... and it could completely brick your phone. It scared the ever loving crap out of me. My phone kept contacting the update server (never started downloading) but I was able to sneak in the update via Clockwork.
My query is this... aimed at the developers here. Is it possible in any way, that a hack could be created that would block the connection to the over air updates? It became my understanding that once it started, you were basically stuck with it and had no choice in the matter.

Is it really that difficult to post in the correct section?

My bad... I guess. I thought a question directed towards developers would belong here. A moderator is welcome to move it as they see fit. And hopefully this isn't seen as rude... I really was just trying to bring up an honest question and believed it to be posted in the right place.

No need to be rude about it, this does nothing to foster a growing community
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Rude comments instead of answers...
life2monkeys said:
No need to be rude about it, this does nothing to foster a growing community
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OP, ignore these guys...there are some of them on every forum on the Internet...they just wish they were mods. Both their posts are rude; yours was not.

Waste of space and time...
jasonyump said:
Is it really that difficult to post in the correct section?
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You're a senior member; he is not. Loosen up a bit and stop being rude. You took the time to post your rude comment when you could just have easily given an answer (assuming you knew it which appears not be the case) and then nicely mentioned the correct location for the post.

One of the reasons I hate posting. All these people always attack everything u do or say
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Ok guys we were all new at something one time or another. Lets try to help as much a possible. This should have gone in Q&A and I will move it there here in a sec.
To answer OP As long as you dont go and check for it and agree then it should not DL and mess everything up like this one did. Anyone is free to correct me if I am wrong, noob to android myself and learning as I go

Well said.
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zelendel said:
Ok guys we were all new at something one time or another. Lets try to help as much a possible. This should have gone in Q&A and I will move it there here in a sec.
To answer OP As long as you dont go and check for it and agree then it should not DL and mess everything up like this one did. Anyone is free to correct me if I am wrong, noob to android myself and learning as I go
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I appreciate this, I really did think I'd posed the question in the right place... as it's not a "can I stop the update" question, but "does a developer know if that area of the OS could be stopped with hack." I should add I'm not a kid asking someone to hack my phone, this is purely hypothetical.
It's not such a big deal if you can, in fact deny the over-air update. I'd gotten the impression from several posts that it was nearly forced. Maybe it was just the issue of stopped downloads that got installed partially... I'm not sure.
Anyway, thanks zelendel. What's OP? My sign on should say maximus-dev... I see OP next to peoples member level... but thought that's what meant they were signed on.

OP = original poster. i.e. the person who started the thread

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I appreciate this, I really did think I'd posed the question in the question in the right place... as it's not a can I stop the update, but does a developer know if that area of the OS could be stopped, but it's not such a big deal if you can, in fact deny the over-air update. I'd gotten the impression from several posts that it was nearly forced. Maybe it was just the issue of stopped downloads that got installed partially... I'm not sure.
Anyway, thanks zelendel. What's OP? My sign on should say maximus-dev... I see OP next to peoples names... but thought that's what meant they were signed on.
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OP stands for Orignal Poster. I think it was stopped downloads that caused some issues but I have A buddy that has one as well and he didnt even know there was an update till I told him so I think you have to check for the update, I dont see anyone being able to push an update to your phone weather you want it or not. But then again I could be wrong, been known to happen a time or two

zelendel said:
Ok guys we were all new at something one time or another. Lets try to help as much a possible. This should have gone in Q&A and I will move it there here in a sec.
To answer OP As long as you dont go and check for it and agree then it should not DL and mess everything up like this one did. Anyone is free to correct me if I am wrong, noob to android myself and learning as I go
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Nicely done. That's why you a mod.

zelendel said:
OP stands for Orignal Poster. I think it was stopped downloads that caused some issues but I have A buddy that has one as well and he didnt even know there was an update till I told him so I think you have to check for the update, I dont see anyone being able to push an update to your phone weather you want it or not. But then again I could be wrong, been known to happen a time or two
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There was an AT&T link around here that said that you are allowed to postpone updating for a up to two times but will be required to update the third time. I am not sure how that works, because I have not yet been notified of the OTA update that is going to fail (because my phone is flashed off stock). I am sure it is something like a modeless dialog box where you have two choices the first two times, but the third time you must chose to update. Since I already have the OTA update installed, I am not sure what's going to happen when my time comes, and I can't postpone any more.

I saw the install or postpone but I only saw that after I looked for the update and DL it, then of course everything went to hell lol

Is theGT-P1010 hackable yet??

Just got one from best buy today.....its the stores second day open and theyre doing them for 150quid...so i bought one on impulse. can honeycomb but applied to one yet??

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Good lord. When your posting ask yourself. Does my post relate to android development or is it a general question? Reading Owns You.

My apologies - sorry.....

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Good lord. When your posting ask yourself. Does my post relate to android development or is it a general question? Reading Owns You.
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Indeed!
I really can not understand why some people post things like this in completley the wrong section. I mean its as if they just randomly click a forum and post.

Ok - well its looks like ive been shifted here, again, sorry, genuine mistake - wasnt expecting the harsh tone though....
I take it this model is too new to have had any hacks/custom roms done yet....

Its a fairly new device. It has a different hardware and as far as we know a different rom. Wait till it falls in the hands of a capable dev. Although looks lije Gingerbread is knocking the tab's door.

hmmm - strange as due to the size i would have gathered honeycomb would the next logical step.

Yes, it's completely hackable. I hacked mine the day I got it.

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damn forum nazi. we are simply trying to get info on our tablet. we post on the dev and we are told to post in QA, we post in QA we are told to post in Dev. WHERE DO WE GO! If it bothers you enough dont read it, ignore it, jesus, some ignorant people these days.

lollipop delayed and End of production for Nexus 5

...Google end production on nexus 5....
http://techpp.com/2014/11/05/nexus-5-discontinued/
..Nexus 5.0 update delayed until Nov.12..
http://www.androidpit.com/android-5-0-lollipop-update-delayed-on-nexus-range
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from the same article that you posted about the n5 being discontinued..
Update: There’s a possibility that Google is stopping the production of only the 32GB version of Nexus 5, as the XDA user above was asking for a replacement of 32GB Nexus 5. We will be contacting LG/Google for clarification and will update this article accordingly.
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End of production was to be expected from my point of view.
But "delayed" update was a quiet a surprise because I was expecting at the end of November.
I'm quiet happy that they will release OTA on 12th, that means the image will be up few days sooner.
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Nah it will not end.
http://www.google.com/nexus/5/
The site says it all.

Yea... Wouldn't make sense to discontinue it, and take the effort to redo the Nexus 5 page showing it running Lollipop.

Come on guys, you know how it is. This is rumor season. A bunch of people just randomly show up to the forum to post something they probably saw on G+ or something. Take 99.99% of all of this stuff with a grain of salt. As for the N5, I'll believe it's discontinued when you can't buy it on the Play Store from a link that says get your NEW Nexus 5 here...

So, you're pointing to a blog that in turns points back to lively thread here in our very own forums... Needless to say the original XDA thread does a fine job of repudiating the idea that the N5 has been terminated -- for all the reasons noted in the above posts. Circular posts like this just feed the rumour mill and before long we all end up authoritatively on IBTimes!
Though the N5 portion of this thread seems redundant in light of the XDA source thread I'll add a further 2¢: The original complaint seems to be someone trying to RMA their device (specifics are lacking), If that's the case he/she would only be offered a refurbished unit as per Google policy. That wouldn't explain the explain the wording of the feedback from Google Play, but in that case I'd suggest it's little more than miscommunication. In fact, the wording of the Play email is rather unlike anything I've ever had back from Google/Play support.
Said thread / rumour began here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/nexus-5-wont-produced-anymore-t2921263/page2
EDIT: *sigh* Even the postponement item is a report on a rumour from another site. "Android Police claims to have learned that the over-the-air (OTA) update for Android 5.0 Lollipop has been postponed to until..." While AP is a very credible source (and this report has been thoroughly covered in the appropriate forum here already), linking to a repeat of a report is fairly useless unless the fresh take offers an actual fresh take with, ya know, with new details or insights.

What happened to official statements? Are they valid nowadays? Because Google hasn't officially declared anything regarding this... So why discuss it further?

A new thread for every single article on lollypop?
It would be awesome if there were one place to discuss all these...... Wait... What about...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795890

KJ said:
A new thread for every single article on lollypop?
It would be awesome if there were one place to discuss all these...... Wait... What about...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2795890
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That thread is for the Developer Preview of Lollipop. Not the public production release of Lollipop.
I for one have found info on Production release lacking on this forum so informative threads are appreciated.

tgrgrd00 said:
That thread is for the Developer Preview of Lollipop. Not the public production release of Lollipop.
I for one have found info on Production release lacking on this forum so informative threads are appreciated.
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I dont even use this site as much Now since Everyone seems to want a ALL -N- One thread .. I not gonna read thur 100+ pages of stuff to find what im looking for.. And if the Thread title doesn't describe what im looking for i dont click it.. BTW i didnt know a Thread was made already for End of Production news.. SORRY.. Not everyone gets up here everyday..

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I dont even use this site as much Now since Everyone seems to want a ALL -N- One thread .. I not gonna read thur 100+ pages of stuff to find what im looking for.. And if the Thread title doesn't describe what im looking for i dont click it.. BTW i didnt know a Thread was made already for End of Production news.. SORRY.. Not everyone gets up here everyday..
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Yep, this trend makes it appear as if there is a lot less content too. Plus like you mention I'm not reading 100 pages in a thread with a title I have no interest in.
Much easier to have more specific topics with several pages than broad topics with hundreds of pages where who knows what page the info I'm looking for might be on.

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I dont even use this site as much Now since Everyone seems to want a ALL -N- One thread .. I not gonna read thur 100+ pages of stuff to find what im looking for.. And if the Thread title doesn't describe what im looking for i dont click it.. BTW i didnt know a Thread was made already for End of Production news.. SORRY.. Not everyone gets up here everyday..
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Well, if you had read the blog post that you cited regarding end of production you'd have seen that it was referring to (and linked to!) an XDA N6 thread. If, having realized this, you still felt there was a clear need to (re)post it here you could have - at least - linked directly to the original XDA thread.

Another future of N5/Nexus thread,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2919674
And most here know that all L discussion goes in the L general or Q&A threads until it's officially released. Hence the reason every single L or Lollipop thread has been closed by the moderators.... In case you didn't see that trend. ?
Please guys. Stick to the L sticky threads as we've been asked to numerous times. ?

This is very good news.
Now android l can fix the problems of nexus 5 and make much better. now i like nexus 5. nexus 6 too big, it sad and sad
why delay because google still watch us with nsa so who care if they watch us all the time then they watch us right now be very disappointed with the delay

Aerys said:
Nah it will not end.
http://www.google.com/nexus/5/
The site says it all.
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I will point out that the 32GB is out of stock on the Nexus 5 minisite, but that just means out of stock, which means no backorderable stock, which could mean waiting on new manufacture. I actually believe that Google understands, as do I, that this phone is still very cutting edge; and at this price point, most certainly the best buy for the dollar on the market. I have the opportunity to get any new phone now with a company paid monthly bill on AT&T or Verizon. You know what? I'm gonna keep my N5 on Straight Talk. Call me a dummy but I can't find a phone I like more with the features I've grown attached to (wireless charging ftw), a brilliant high dpi screen, and a form factor that fits just right (any larger and I can't one-hand it on the subway while keeping my other hand on the railing). What really makes a phone feel new is a radically upgraded OS, and that's what I have now with my no-questions-asked free replacement refurb on Android 5.0. Thanks Google!

@KJ is right, plenty of threads to discuss this.
Thread closed.

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hi @rovo89
as far as i can see your last post regarding lollipop/art was on 22nd october. and yes, i read all the relevant posts. i'm not asking for eta but for just any kind of information, like
"i'm on it"
"i'm not on it"
"i gave up"
"still dealing with selinux"
"stuck on some problem"
"real life is more important at the moment"
"most parts (don't) work"
just something...
thanks

Did you read this post?
You will see that he asks that nobody asks about it and rather just waits until it's done.
Please, just wait until he decides to make a post on his progress himself. Can you imagine the pressure of people constantly asking for progress reports? It isn't fair to place someone under that pressure, in my opinion.
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yes i read it. i read every post regarding art. i know he doesn't want to be asked(and yet i still do). and no i cant imagine pressure arising from progress reports once or twice a month which can be as long as one sentence.
but i can imagine the pressure of people who want to see an art-compatible xposed as soon as possible or who want etas.
i'm not asking for any of this. and i'm also not demanding because i'm completely aware of the fact that he doesn't owe anyone anything. but i still think it would be quite reasonable and not too much asked to give us a sign of life regarding the process once in a while.

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yes i read it. i read every post regarding art. i know he doesn't want to be asked(and yet i still do). and no i cant imagine pressure arising from progress reports once or twice a month which can be as long as one sentence.
but i can imagine the pressure of people who want to see an art-compatible xposed as soon as possible or who want etas.
i'm not asking for any of this. and i'm also not demanding because i'm completely aware of the fact that he doesn't owe anyone anything. but i still think it would be quite reasonable and not too much asked to give us a sign of life regarding the process once in a while.
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Eh I wouldn't hold my breath really. Its simpler to assume that he has given up and get used to lp w/o xposed. Essentially the only thing I personally will miss is the NLP wakelock limiter that I have atm. The rest is superficial (the nlp limiter on the other hand is essential thanks to google's awful coding)
And yeah inb4 the wave of fanboys (xda is a terrible circlejerk really) shouting you down and telling you that asking for anything (after getting baited into waiting...) is a crime of the worst sort and evil of the worst kind.
./yawn

He literally said that he would work on it after retail L released and wouldn't post anything here until he had something at least partially working for other developers to be able to assist in development. That post is here and explains the challenges in getting Xposed to work on Lollipop.
Reading the available information and understanding it, then not bugging rovo89 or wanting him to be driven off by impatient people doesn't make anyone a fanboy, so please let's keep this civil. Thanks.
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He literally said that he would work on it after retail L released and wouldn't post anything here until he had something at least partially working for other developers to be able to assist in development.
Reading the available information and understanding it, then not bugging rovo89 or wanting him to be driven off by impatient people doesn't make anyone a fanboy.
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Sure, but being someone's whiteknight certainly does. (Seriously lets face it there will be more and more people begging for xposed as time rolls on and more 5.0 roms turn up - are you going to reply to them all?)
Besides he said in no uncertain terms that he's not sure he has the motivation to bother. Nor is he sure he can deal with the new SElinux restrictions. At least last I checked.
Thus my statement: Easier to assume it won't happen and then be happy if it does

I'm not needlessly protecting anyone, rather simply providing information to somebody as I'm supposed to as a RC, so please let's keep name calling out of it and keep it civil like I already asked. Thanks.
I'm going to leave this discussion, as it will probably escalate and my original intention was just to link to the post that rovo made that may have been missed, not to start a debate.
Cheers.
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yes i read it. i read every post regarding art. i know he doesn't want to be asked(and yet i still do)...
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That about sums up why this thread now closed.
"I know the fire's hot, but what the heck, I'll touch it anyway" :good: