Does X-Reality Work in Unlocked BL on KitKat? - Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Does X-Reality Work in Unlocked BL on KitKat?
Can Anybody Confirm That. I'm dying to have my BL unlocked but am doubtful regarding claims that X-Reality works perfectly on Unlocked BootLoader in KitKat.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2635986

There Are Still Doubts about whether BIONZ works or not.

halleyrokz said:
There Are Still Doubts about whether BIONZ works or not.
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You asked for x-reality.

halleyrokz said:
There Are Still Doubts about whether BIONZ works or not.
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Bionz works
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HellRoot said:
Bionz works
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ThanX

nobody cares or should care about that x-fake. the original pictures always look better

HellRoot said:
Bionz works
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It works even after Unlock Bootloader or it works after fix?

eclyptos said:
It works even after Unlock Bootloader or it works after fix?
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It works after unlock... Although there is a slight difference in quality of the pictures...
But it is not the bad... You can see the pictures somewhere on the forum here
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HellRoot said:
It works after unlock... Although there is a slight difference in quality of the pictures...
But it is not the bad...
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To me it is bad as there is a slight difference in quality then it not work properly, if not at all. We need concrete facts of what Unlock Bootloader damage on our phones and what, how the features still working. That what I didn't figure out yet.

I already unlock for a while to try doomlord kernel, x-reality i can't figure out there is different but camera is bad when unlock bootloader condition especially in low light,there is lot of noise , after relock i test in the same place and light and i can completely sure that bionz work on locked bootloader
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Well.
eclyptos said:
To me it is bad as there is a slight difference in quality then it not work properly, if not at all. We need concrete facts of what Unlock Bootloader damage on our phones and what, how the features still working. That what I didn't figure out yet.
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Ive actually explained this before so i wont do that again. But here comes a theory why ppl belive the features aint working.
The cam stopped to work completley pre 4.3 right ? Ye back then the Bionz was affected hence the camera didnt work with unlocked bootloader. The camera itself cant work if the Bionz chip aint there. Google for image processing chips for cameras in general and find out what it is.
Although, Sony fixed theese issues with KitKat and here it comes, brace yourself. If you google this you will get ALOT of answers about it. Everyone suffered from bad quality photos since KitKat was introduced(even the normal users that never fiddles with their phones). So, NO it aint the unlocking of the bootloader that does it. Sony fixed all thoose problems ppl were having with unlocked bootloaders. It is the new software that does it. Media reviewers actually wrote about this aswell saying that Sonys cam wasnt any good no more. Google is your friend.
A bonus theory here: The "conspiracy theory" : Wouldnt it be smart to make some features look abit worse on the Z1 when the release of the Z2 is just around the corner ? If a customer wants a really good camera phone and just cares about that. And when he is comparing the Z1 with the Z2 and found that Z1 is just as good camera wise but half the price he would buy that one i would guess. Buuuut if you make sure the camera isnt working as good on the Z1 but super good on the Z2 while releasing the Z2. Then that consumer might buy the Z2 instead. It could very well be marketing stunts so the normal user would go "ehhh this Z1 aint working properly, ahh well ill just buy a new one like the Z2".
And ofc, when the Z2 has been out for a while the software will be fixed on the Z1 making the ones that didnt jump the train for Z2 happy again so that thoose might continue to buy Sony Xperia´s.
All big companies wanna make money. They have smart ways of doing so aswell.
I will buy a OnePlus One when that is released here, and if that is so good as it seems to be and that the company will continue to produce "flagship killers" to the half price and a more humane price. I will continue to support them instead. But usually everyone making money will get greedy. :laugh:

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[Q] is it possible to get bravia engine 2 back?

hey guys, im new to this forum,,
anyways,
i know that unlocking bootloader will take away xperia z's bravia engine,
but if i relock the bootloader again, will i be able to get it back?
opinions pls :<
P.S. : does losing bravia engine is a really big deal to you?
For now there is no way to get BE2 back after unlocking.
Maybe in the future, no one can tell.
Kind regards, Stefan.
Thaevil0ne said:
For now there is no way to get BE2 back after unlocking.
Maybe in the future, no one can tell.
Kind regards, Stefan.
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thanks for teh answer thaevil0ne, btw, do you think losing bravia engine is a really big deal?
For me, not at all.
I unlocked the bootloader even before checking out the BE, as I want custom kernels.
As far as I understand it will only work when you view pictures or movies with the Sony Album app.
If you browse the web or play games the engine will not be active at all.
Kind regards, Stefan.
Hey folks,
we often heard now that BE2 can't be brought back after unlocking bootloader.
My question is simple...WHY?? Maybe some dev can answer this question. I don't understand where's the link between unlocking and the BE2 engine. And why does this only affect pictures? That makes no sense...
In addition to that, there are a lot of ROMs for other sony devices which bring BE2 to them. Why shouldn't it be possible to bring it back then?
I understand that thing with loosing DRM support because of security issues...but an graphics engine....?
Greetz
Cube
Thaevil0ne said:
For me, not at all.
I unlocked the bootloader even before checking out the BE, as I want custom kernels.
As far as I understand it will only work when you view pictures or movies with the Sony Album app.
If you browse the web or play games the engine will not be active at all.
Kind regards, Stefan.
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reading your comment made me feel better, i thought xperia phones will be suck if theres no bravia,
DooMLoRD ported BE1 to Xperia Play back in the day, see this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246402
So Iam pretty sure it must be possible to port BE2 aswell, maybe DooMLoRD could explain us a bit more?
Kind regards, Stefan.
TheAngryCube said:
Hey folks,
we often heard now that BE2 can't be brought back after unlocking bootloader.
My question is simple...WHY?? Maybe some dev can answer this question. I don't understand where's the link between unlocking and the BE2 engine. And why does this only affect pictures? That makes no sense...
In addition to that, there are a lot of ROMs for other sony devices which bring BE2 to them. Why shouldn't it be possible to bring it back then?
I understand that thing with loosing DRM support because of security issues...but an graphics engine....?
Greetz
Cube
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very true bro, maybe sony wants us to regret on our decision on unlocking it,thats why
nokbepogi16 said:
very true bro, maybe sony wants us to regret on our decision on unlocking it,thats why
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Maybe, but from my point of view, it's a feature supported by Sony. Why then punish users/devs who work on that nice piece of hardware to make it even better...
Thaevil0ne said:
DooMLoRD ported BE1 to Xperia Play back in the day, see this topic:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1246402
So Iam pretty sure it must be possible to port BE2 aswell, maybe DooMLoRD could explain us a bit more?
Kind regards, Stefan.
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thanks for the positive thoughts bro,, please let me know if doomlords comes up with this port thank you very much
When you unlock the bootloader you lose things called DRM keys, these can never be restored after unlocking. These keys are used to make specific functions or features work. After you unlock as these keys are no longer there so some functions won't work. Sadly bravia engine is one of these things that stops working.
Bravia Engine 2 back
fareeed said:
When you unlock the bootloader you lose things called DRM keys, these can never be restored after unlocking. These keys are used to make specific functions or features work. After you unlock as these keys are no longer there so some functions won't work. Sadly bravia engine is one of these things that stops working.
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Has anyone tried this method: http://xperianeoldev.blogspot.be/2013/05/tutorial-install-bravia-engine-2-on.html ?
I asked the author of this tutorial if it would be possible to make similar deal with XZ and it is what he answered:
"Yes , use the tutorial given in the website it is working on all xperia smartphones"
Still hope to get BE2 back!
For all people here you will brick your phones. Unlocking your bootloader you do not loose bravia engine it was told 100x times read forum
bravia will be loss in album but video still work.
That's still half not working
Bootloader unlocked but I still have the option to turn BE2 on or off. I can't decide is there any difference when it's on then off...
Bravia Engine 2
defsix said:
Bootloader unlocked but I still have the option to turn BE2 on or off. I can't decide is there any difference when it's on then off...
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It surly does not work with the pictures.
Bth I had a few smartphones as far: iPhone (jailbreaked), HTC HD, S Galaxy Nexus, Galaxt Tab 7, and have never had problems like this that I irreversibly lost such important features after unlockimg the bootloader. Of course it is only me to blame as I should have done more research before but bearing in mind my earlier experience and the fact the instructions were taken fron offical Sony site I just felt too self confident.
Anyway I think next time I will not choose Sony smartphone as I am bit dissapointed with the situation esp. when you see BE ported on devices from HTC, Samsung or others.
sikoro said:
It surly does not work with the pictures.
Bth I had a few smartphones as far: iPhone (jailbreaked), HTC HD, S Galaxy Nexus, Galaxt Tab 7, and have never had problems like this that I irreversibly lost such important features after unlockimg the bootloader. Of course it is only me to blame as I should have done more research before but bearing in mind my earlier experience and the fact the instructions were taken fron offical Sony site I just felt too self confident.
Anyway I think next time I will not choose Sony smartphone as I am bit dissapointed with the situation esp. when you see BE ported on devices from HTC, Samsung or others.
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Do you still have the option for BE2? I also thought we lost the ability to get track info and movie info from Gracenote, that's still working fine for me. I don't do DRM so it's no loss to me.
I've not used other devices much, I vaguely remember with Samsung you're sideloading the firmware as opposed to Sony where you're unlocking to freely change the firmware... Correct me if I'm wrong.
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defsix said:
Do you still have the option for BE2? I also thought we lost the ability to get track info and movie info from Gracenote, that's still working fine for me. I don't do DRM so it's no loss to me.
I've not used other devices much, I vaguely remember with Samsung you're sideloading the firmware as opposed to Sony where you're unlocking to freely change the firmware... Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Yes I do. The button BE2 is still visible in my settings but there is no difference if I turn it on or off. For getting track info it is similar - I can start this option, wait until is finished. Then start it again and exactly the same number tracks is updated. You can repeat the process all over but in fact nothing is changed.
I don't know what you exactly mean "sideloading" but when I had Galaxy Nexus I could freely change the firmware, could have f.eg. JB with Touch Wizz from S3. Of course had no BE2 at all but the screen was more vivid so the pictures looked better (my opinion) than on XZ without BE.
Anyway there are mods which allow to install BE2 on devices from HTC, Samsung, Motorolla or other unlocked Sony models and that makes me even more disappointed.
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Yes I do. The button BE2 is still visible in my settings but there is no difference if I turn it on or off. For getting track info it is similar - I can start this option, wait until is finished. Then start it again and exactly the same number tracks is updated. You can repeat the process all over but in fact nothing is changed.
I don't know what you exactly mean "sideloading" but when I had Galaxy Nexus I could freely change the firmware, could have f.eg. JB with Touch Wizz from S3. Of course had no BE2 at all but the screen was more vivid so the pictures looked better (my opinion) than on XZ without BE.
Anyway there are mods which allow to install BE2 on devices from HTC, Samsung, Motorolla or other unlocked Sony models and that makes me even more disappointed.
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I still have the ability to use the Gracenote services, I updated all my music and it replaced the cover art, I also did the same with my movie & tv show collection.
On Samsung i believe the system is less secured when it comes to installing other firmwares hence the ease with which it's done. Firmwares can be installed without unlocking unlike Sony. (this is not my direct experience with Samsung only what I've heard)
As for BE2 it can installed on other devices and according to a post i read last night it's theoretically can be done, but not yet tried.
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So 4.3 comes, how about BL unlock?

Can anyone conform 4.3 fix the BL unlock camera issue, or Sony will make us still wait the fix?
Also if this fixed will Sony give Z1 AOSP support like ZU just before?
FFS, give me a chance, my phone is still updating.
However the sony website still DOES NOT list the Z1 on its supported devices. So I suspect its not fixed
Thanks, if this haven't been fix maybe I think I have to stick official a little more longer, but miss the freedom of the AOSP Roms.
maomao891007 said:
Thanks, if this haven't been fix maybe I think I have to stick official a little more longer, but miss the freedom of the AOSP Roms.
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Even if it is fixed with this firmware drop it will still require integration into the AOSP projects. Have a little patience champion, we'll know soon enough.
Rekoil said:
Even if it is fixed with this firmware drop it will still require integration into the AOSP projects. Have a little patience champion, we'll know soon enough.
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But at least people will come, or the dev section will be almost dead like now. And the device I came also have the same problem, like HTC's BL lock, the things Dev can't mange will lead devices almost dead or take time and the result is next gernretion come, your devices haven't AOSP yet.
Another way, I'm not complain something, just want to see more people in Dev section discuss how to deal with problem/not working, not the eta/will something take Dev lot of time but will finally solve by xxxx official fix or others.
Fixed
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Originally Posted by DooMLoRD
"ITS FIXED! FINALLY!
Xperia Z1 bootloader-camera bug is now fixed on the 4.3 update!
finally can resume my custom kernel work"
Yep, people are reporting left and right that the issue is finally solved!
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Yep, people are reporting left and right that the issue is finally solved!
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Bootloader Unlocked = Yes
Camera Working = Yes!
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DeanBoro said:
Bootloader Unlocked = Yes
Camera Working = Yes!
4.3
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Now that is awesome! Good things ahead in the development area then!
DeanBoro said:
Bootloader Unlocked = Yes
Camera Working = Yes!
4.3
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did you notice any positive or negative change in picture quality after unlocking it ?
cocchiararo said:
did you notice any positive or negative change in picture quality after unlocking it ?
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Just checked then, terrible quality compared to locked bl
DeanBoro said:
Just checked then, terrible quality compared to locked bl
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so.. no use then ?
DeanBoro said:
Just checked then, terrible quality compared to locked bl
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Can you post some pics and the app you used?
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Im surprised sony actually fixed that, never expected a manufacturer to care about something like that
Definitely staying Sony
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cocchiararo said:
did you notice any positive or negative change in picture quality after unlocking it ?
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The same as Lock Bootloader quality
DeanBoro said:
Just checked then, terrible quality compared to locked bl
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I really don't see how unlocking BL would affect image quality... I mean the problem previously was that unlocking BL would remove DRM, thus you couldn't even open the camera app, no?
sg1969 said:
I really don't see how unlocking BL would affect image quality... I mean the problem previously was that unlocking BL would remove DRM, thus you couldn't even open the camera app, no?
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It's thought that the BIONZ chip emulation would no longer work.
Its usable HOWEVER the image quality is nothing compared to the original quality before bootloader unlock.
sg1969 said:
I really don't see how unlocking BL would affect image quality... I mean the problem previously was that unlocking BL would remove DRM, thus you couldn't even open the camera app, no?
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It was said that unlocking disables bionz, so that has to have some effect on pictures.
2 guys at least said that they are much worse, 1 guy said that they are the same
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[Q] Unlocking any downsides?

Hi there, i've got an Z1 ordered wich should be delivered tomorrow or the day after.
I've read a few threads in advance and even checked out some roms wich will suit me
I've got a question though;
It's not that beginner stuff, i have a sxs and i know what to do to unlock the bootloader and flash cfws.
I've read some posts about having camera issues in CM11 and that is has something to do with unlocking the bootloader (link)
i'm honest:i haven't read the whole thread so sorry if that issue should be resolved now.
now the point of this thread:
is there anything that can f**k up my device when unlocking it while completely following sony's guide?
or should is there another foolproof method?
next thing:
i've read alot about that touchscreen bug. if i have this bug, do have it right from the start or can it also happen later?
i don't want to unlock my device and then after some time falling victim to this bug.
last question:
if anything happens, worst case scenario:
i've unlocked my device and something happens to it. can i relock my bootloader without sony knowing that it was unlocked?
thanks in advance
xXFlippyXx said:
is there anything that can f**k up my device when unlocking it while completely following sony's guide?
or should is there another foolproof method?
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No, if you follow the instruction all will be fine, before that check if you can open it, type *#*#7378423*#*# and see Bootloader Unlock Allowed: YES or NO?
xXFlippyXx said:
i've read alot about that touchscreen bug. if i have this bug, do have it right from the start or can it also happen later?
i don't want to unlock my device and then after some time falling victim to this bug.
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If you have the problem then you have it already, you just don't know how to reproduce it. Unlocking Bootloader have nothing to do with it.
Check this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNV_jat9Z5Y
xXFlippyXx said:
if anything happens, worst case scenario:
i've unlocked my device and something happens to it. can i relock my bootloader without sony knowing that it was unlocked?
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Before Unlock Bootlader you have to root your phone and Backup TA and DRM keys, then you can Unlock or reLock your Bootlader.
Should be covered via warranty if the Booloader is locked, so if you Relock your Bootlader should be too.
I haven't read about any bricks just from unlocking.
Most bricks happen when going from 4.2.2 to 4.3
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Before Unlock Bootlader you have to root your phone and Backup TA and DRM keys, then you can Unlock or reLock your Bootlader.
Should be covered via warranty if the Booloader is locked, so if you Relock your Bootlader should be too.
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do you really have to backup TA and DRM keys? i didnt do that when unlocking the bootloader (it took me 2h to unlock it and install a custom ROM, didnt have time to flash 3 ROMs just to get root and be able to backup TA/DRM)
afaik DRM keys are only needed for bravia engine which many people think is useless and even worsens image quality due to heavy sharpening..
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do you really have to backup TA and DRM keys? i didnt do that when unlocking the bootloader (it took me 2h to unlock it and install a custom ROM, didnt have time to flash 3 ROMs just to get root and be able to backup TA/DRM)
afaik DRM keys are only needed for bravia engine which many people think is useless and even worsens image quality due to heavy sharpening..
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Then permanently lost yours DRM Keys, you don't have Warranty anymore on you device and features like X-Reality, Bionz processing and Bravia Engine.
eclyptos said:
Then permanently lost yours DRM Keys, you don't have Warranty anymore on you device and features like X-Reality, Bionz processing and Bravia Engine.
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warranty i didnt have from the start, so no loss there
X-Reality, Bionz and Bravia engine all sound like marketing gimmicks - especially x-reality/bravia engine which does nothing for image quality, use of TFT displays is Sonys biggest problem and no software enhancement can solve that (HTC still makes the best displays on the market)
and Bionz didnt help Sony make best smartphone camera on the market
the way i look at it, its just like having AOSP/Google device..
Furma said:
warranty i didnt have from the start, so no loss there
X-Reality, Bionz and Bravia engine all sound like marketing gimmicks - especially x-reality/bravia engine which does nothing for image quality, use of TFT displays is Sonys biggest problem and no software enhancement can solve that (HTC still makes the best displays on the market)
and Bionz didnt help Sony make best smartphone camera on the market
the way i look at it, its just like having AOSP/Google device..
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So you have your reasons and it's just you on 50 people without warranty. You also can't relock the bootlader but I think is not a problem for you.
BTW, I have to admit you are right, X-Reality, Bravia seems not help and Bionz didn't made Sony best smartphone Camera. Z1 still making middle range pictures.
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Z1 still making middle range pictures.
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You sure you have the genuine Z1,not a Chinese fake? My Z1 does stunning pictures.
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i has a question!!!
when unlocking your boottloader it breaks the camera right?
the 4.3 update suposedly fixed that, or is that a device or version spesific thing?
because im saving up money to buy a SXZ1 Direct from sony and i am hoping to.unlock my bootloader without having to worry about the broken camera issue
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You sure you have the genuine Z1,not a Chinese fake? My Z1 does stunning pictures.
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I don't know, in Galeria Promenada, Ul Ostrobramska, shop Teletorium they selling fake Phones?
In daylight all pictures seems good, I don't like the quality of 20mpx and 8mpx in iAuto. Too much noise, many complain about that, just a bit of low light and Bam, expensive camera gone on the moon. I don't like the pictures, my personal opignion. The phone is good to me and if it's fake they really do a hell of job in China, still Made in China the Genuine anyway so no big difference!
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i has a question!!!
when unlocking your boottloader it breaks the camera right?
the 4.3 update suposedly fixed that, or is that a device or version spesific thing?
because im saving up money to buy a SXZ1 Direct from sony and i am hoping to.unlock my bootloader without having to worry about the broken camera issue
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Yes, the .290 update fix that and all working fine. Remember to Backup TA before Unlock Bootlader. You still missing X-Reality, Bionz processing and Bravia engine after unlock bootlader but the phone will working well and many ppl do not see any difference.
eclyptos said:
I don't know, in Galeria Promenada, Ul Ostrobramska, shop Teletorium they selling fake Phones?
In daylight all pictures seems good, I don't like the quality of 20mpx and 8mpx in iAuto. Too much noise, many complain about that, just a bit of low light and Bam, expensive camera gone on the moon. I don't like the pictures, my personal opignion. The phone is good to me and if it's fake they really do a hell of job in China, still Made in China the Genuine anyway so no big difference!
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Yes, the .290 update fix that and all working fine. Remember to Backup TA before Unlock Bootlader. You still missing X-Reality, Bionz processing and Bravia engine after unlock bootlader but the phone will working well and many ppl do not see any difference.
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ok thats good
ill be buying a Xperia Z1
Ill be Building Envi-OS Touch Edition and if can get a chance, Ubuntu Touch and maybe a few other things
X-Reality boinz and braiva i never cared for
they are only useful if the effect is permanent not only when the engines are on
thanks for your quick replie
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woah, my thread got hijacked...
i'd like to give feedback now:
i don't know of camera quality yet, since i still got those factory screen protectors on my z1 (those ugly ones wich you have to peel off). i'd like to keep it that way until i get my third party screen protector. i'm a bit clumsy and i don't like the thought of having scratches on sonys stock protectors. i will get my screen protector + case tomorrow
i'm halfway through unlocking the phone. it came with 257 (4.2) t-mobile branded, so i had to downgrade to 534 to get root. ive had to read alot before downgrading, i wasn't really sure if drm keys stay if i just downgrade via flashtool. took me a while too get those firmwares too .
the biggest problems i had were with my adb drivers. I had a SXS before, where all was pretty smooth. But i had dozens of problems to get those adb drivers for my z1 to work. Normally i don't have any problems with such things as drivers but those really got my nuts :/
Windows installed drivers of their own, wouldn't let me overwrite nor delete them. Either the drivers were to old or wouldn't fit device (wich was a lie). Good thing i have a ssd, because i've punched my desk more than a few times
now i'm on 290, with root and recovery. i have a backup of TA partition, and next thing i'll do is unlocking the bootloader.
second:
at the moment i lack of a rubber mat, so i can't really test my screen. up until now i haven't noticed any problem with the responsiveness of the screen. i'll report back if im through with that.
Nice, sorry i think the thread hijacking was my fault
Anyway z1 camera is as good as xperia s camera, sucks is lower light levels but besides that its amazing,
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Unlocking bootloader disadvantage?

I have searched and asked this many times. But no one seems to have a answer for me. So let's see if someone on the Q & A thread will...
I have a Z1 that can be boot loader unlocked. However I don't know whether its worth it.
The biggest thing to put me off was loss of x reality but there is a solution now.
The biggest thing that is putting me off is camera performance. I heard it removes Sony software for the camera called BIONZ. I want to know if anyone can tell the difference in camera quality with their unlocked boot loader as opposed to a locked boot loader.
So any answers appreciated!
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Well there is a thread somewhere around here called another Sony secret and they are talking about the difference between pictures with an unlocked bl and pictures with a locked bl...the op said that there is a lot more noise in the pictures with an unlocked bl...look for that thread and you will find more info
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Well I have mentioned this earlier.
This has had no negative effect on mine. I saw a camera improvement overall in .290, but other than that I have not been very satisfied with 4.3.
.257 had way less issues (talking about firmware as a whole here). Fingers crossed for kitkat:fingers-crossed:
So what I'm saying is, weird that I can percieve better results going from locked .257 - to unlocked .290.
I've read around that mentioned thread, and to me there was heavy speculation going on in there.
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Well there is a thread somewhere around here called another Sony secret and they are talking about the difference between pictures with an unlocked bl and pictures with a locked bl...the op said that there is a lot more noise in the pictures with an unlocked bl...look for that thread and you will find more info
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That thread was rated 1 star last time I checked so was not sure if it was true, plus, they were on bout low light mostly. I want to know about good light
I think I might just go ahead and do it Just hope I don't regret it as I take pictures a lot.
technostein said:
That thread was rated 1 star last time I checked so was not sure if it was true, plus, they were on bout low light mostly. I want to know about good light
I think I might just go ahead and do it Just hope I don't regret it as I take pictures a lot.
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I'm sure in good light you won't notice the difference so just go for it... Don't forget to backup all the important stuff like TA etc...
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@technostein
Unlock bootloader and try, if you don't like it just restore your TA and you are back again...
Just be sure you are on 4.3 because of camera...
I was always unlocking bootloader but I bought Z1 (in purpose) with bootloader status - NO.
I'm completely satisfied with Sony ROMs ( back from 4.1.2) and can't find any reason to use custom kernel...
Just don't need that...
OC? Really don't need more cpu or gpu speed.
All other features are already in stock kernel...
Maybe, only, if Sony decide not to add KNOCKON feature- I would miss custom kernel - but who cares for just one thing...
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funky0308 said:
@technostein
Unlock bootloader and try, if you don't like it just restore your TA and you are back again...
Just be sure you are on 4.3 because of camera...
I was always unlocking bootloader but I bought Z1 (in purpose) with bootloader status - NO.
I'm completely satisfied with Sony ROMs ( back from 4.1.2) and can't find any reason to use custom kernel...
Just don't need that...
OC? Really don't need more cpu or gpu speed.
All other features are already in stock kernel...
Maybe, only, if Sony decide not to add KNOCKON feature- I would miss custom kernel - but who cares for just one thing...
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Reason why I am tempted it because I run ihackers ROM 3.0 and I liked the changelogs of ihackers kernel. such as noise reduction in camera and loads of tweaks and build prop tweaks.
Be aware that by unlocking formally sony's guarantee will be lost, as that is stated in their terms. I don't know if relocking will fix the guarantee issue of there is a need later on.
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I saw somewhere on XDA a thread about differences quality pictures between Locked and Unlocked Bootloader and the pictures on Unlocked Bootloader had much more less quality and more noise than the one with the Locked Bootloader. I can't guarantee the accuracy of that information but if it is true then Unlocking Bootlader is very bad for the quality pictures. I am sure it can be fixed because of software related but how and when I don't know. I still keep my Bootloader Locked even if I am tempt to unlock it to install CM11.

A bit sad to see the dev for xp

Hi all
I can see that not much is going on here on this forum with the Xperia x performance.
Custom Rom etc is not existing and not much activity on the forums. Not compared to galaxy s7 anyways.
Sony has never made better phones than now, and the arc, s, z etc had a lot of activity.
It is a shame.
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AndroPlus said:
Tip: Everyone can be a developer
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I know.. I don't have the time for development myself at the moment, but a bit of life on xda for the xp does not hurt.
?
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HellRoot said:
Hi all
I can see that not much is going on here on this forum with the Xperia x performance.
Custom Rom etc is not existing and not much activity on the forums. Not compared to galaxy s7 anyways.
Sony has never made better phones than now, and the arc, s, z etc had a lot of activity.
It is a shame.
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Seems the same for all the x range at the moment
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HellRoot said:
Hi all
I can see that not much is going on here on this forum with the Xperia x performance.
Custom Rom etc is not existing and not much activity on the forums. Not compared to galaxy s7 anyways.
Sony has never made better phones than now, and the arc, s, z etc had a lot of activity.
It is a shame.
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Because we have no root on LB.
I was planning to get one, but it still very expensive for me... unfortunately!
Desperanto86 said:
Because we have no root on LB.
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There won't be anytime soon either, but a way to back up the ta keys on all the x range would be great. Currently the only thing stopping me unlocking & rooting my xa. made the mistake of loosing ta keys before won't do it again.
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serajr said:
I was planning to get one, but it still very expensive for me... unfortunately!
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If anyone can make things happen here it's you bro [emoji106]
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HellRoot said:
Sony has never made better phones than now, and the arc, s, z etc had a lot of activity.
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Do you actually think the X line is better than the Z line? Seriously?
It is a shame.
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The shame is the loss of DRM keys and all the rest.
What rest? Well, on Z3 and Z3c we can't even use an AOSP rom without big issues on the camera (the fish-eye bug), therefore for us a real development has really never started in 2 years (2 years my friend!!!!)
We were a lot of people, everybody is escaping now... :crying:
istux said:
Do you actually think the X line is better than the Z line? Seriously?
The shame is the loss of DRM keys and all the rest.
What rest? Well, on Z3 and Z3c we can't even use an AOSP rom without big issues on the camera (the fish-eye bug), therefore for us a real development has really never started in 2 years (2 years my friend!!!!)
We were a lot of people, everybody is escaping now... :crying:
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I like the x.. I also like the z, the phones have gotten better in specs.. The design is a matter of opinion.
I agree on the drm issues.
It was not to offend you.
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istux said:
Do you actually think the X line is better than the Z line? Seriously?
The shame is the loss of DRM keys and all the rest.
What rest? Well, on Z3 and Z3c we can't even use an AOSP rom without big issues on the camera (the fish-eye bug), therefore for us a real development has really never started in 2 years (2 years my friend!!!!)
We were a lot of people, everybody is escaping now... :crying:
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I actually think the X performance is a nice phone, ofcoz the X is actually downgrade from Z5...
It's ok as far as they keep a flagship upgraded and better than before. The new design looks excellent and for me is better than the boring Z series look, actually even better than the new xz.
Btw, for the reason they sell the standard X so hard, more than the X perf is that they dont want people to get X Perf coz it's too good, too good that u wont need to upgrade for a long time. Sony wants u to upgrade after a year, not 2 or 3 years like the over power Z series LOL. And ofcoz personally I'd recommend Z5 more than the standard X, but X perf is excellent to me
I'm liking my x performance replaced my Z3 which I still have its a great device with tons of Power we just need to find a way to bypass or fake dm-verity to get root on lb
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zombiej79 said:
I'm liking my x performance replaced my Z3 which I still have its a great device with tons of Power we just need to find a way to bypass or fake dm-verity to get root on lb
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something the whole x range needs....
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zombiej79 said:
I'm liking my x performance replaced my Z3 which I still have its a great device with tons of Power we just need to find a way to bypass or fake dm-verity to get root on lb
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Is "AndroPlus Kernel v7" did the work here (fake DRM /hide DRM security measure)? but this time with UB.
And as i know the difference between the LB and the UB is the lack of the DRM, but if the problem solved here with this kernel so it considered as a partial resolution until find another way to root with LB.
Correct me if i was wrong
Thanks
Envoyé de mon Xperia x performance
Problem is some carriers lock the bl and you can't unlock cause unlock bootloader says no and no way to change it to yes on carrier locked ones. Ive talked to Sony and Rogers and neither are interested in helping change status to yes. Sony says talk to carrier and carrier says talk to Sony just a vicious circle has to be a way to change status
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