Is it necessary to go through all of the pain of unlocking the bootloader of my device to root it? Or is there some easier way that allows me to bypass this, as it all seems kind of unnecessary to me?
Panickeyaxes said:
Is it necessary to go through all of the pain of unlocking the bootloader of my device to root it? Or is there some easier way that allows me to bypass this, as it all seems kind of unnecessary to me?
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As far as I know, it's not necessary to unlock the bootloader to root your phone, in fact, I rooted my AHD BEFORE I unlocked the bootloader. As for the ways, you can use MythTools, just search them on the forum.
See above.....though you're lucky because it's much easier to root these days. Anyone remember when we were doing Samba mounts with Linux for root?
Your phone has to be rooted to unlock the bootloader, and I'd advise you to unlock your bootloader now. It's easy and it can save your ass if anything goes wrong with the phone.
There's no reason not to unlock the bootloader unless you can't because it's a work phone or warranty reasons or whatever.
Warranty issues aside, almost every part for this phone can be found for real cheap and the hardest repair is a cracked digitizer or lcd screen, both of which can be done by anyone for $20 in parts and 30 minutes of time. Only thing you might not easily find is a motherboard, but a broke screen used Atrix HD can be found on ebay for cheap and the board swapped from it.
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See above.....though you're lucky because it's much easier to root these days. Anyone remember when we were doing Samba mounts with Linux for root?
Your phone has to be rooted to unlock the bootloader, and I'd advise you to unlock your bootloader now. It's easy and it can save your ass if anything goes wrong with the phone.
There's no reason not to unlock the bootloader unless you can't because it's a work phone or warranty reasons or whatever.
Warranty issues aside, almost every part for this phone can be found for real cheap and the hardest repair is a cracked digitizer or lcd screen, both of which can be done by anyone for $20 in parts and 30 minutes of time. Only thing you might not easily find is a motherboard, but a broke screen used Atrix HD can be found on ebay for cheap and the board swapped from it.
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I wanted to cry the first time I saw the "Linux samba" thing. But then mythtools came for lazy people like me
Arjomer said:
I wanted to cry the first time I saw the "Linux samba" thing. But then mythtools came for lazy people like me
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I hear ya. I went "wtf, samba? At least I already run Linux, but this will suck for the average dude.”
I almost managed to get root using a modified samba method and my Defy. Probably could have if I looked into it farther, but rooting became so easy so fast I said f it....the bootloader was unlocked a month after I purchased the Atrix HD.
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I hear ya. I went "wtf, samba? At least I already run Linux, but this will suck for the average dude.”
I almost managed to get root using a modified samba method and my Defy. Probably could have if I looked into it farther, but rooting became so easy so fast I said f it....the bootloader was unlocked a month after I purchased the Atrix HD.
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Lmao.
Just curious... When did you get your AHD?
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Lmao.
Just curious... When did you get your AHD?
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I picked it up about 1 year ago for 99 cents. Gonna have it for a year longer until the AT&T contract is up. Maybe longer than that if I don't see any phone that's really worth buying.
/I'd really like it if they took the Atrix HD, made the screen a bit bigger, and gave it the X's cpu and whatnot.
//There really aren't that many large screen phones with the durable feel that my Motorola phones have.
///Why doesn't Motorola have a phablet sized phone? I hope rumors are true...
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I picked it up about 1 year ago for 99 cents. Gonna have it for a year longer until the AT&T contract is up. Maybe longer than that if I don't see any phone that's really worth buying.
/I'd really like it if they took the Atrix HD, made the screen a bit bigger, and gave it the X's cpu and whatnot.
//There really aren't that many large screen phones with the durable feel that my Motorola phones have.
///Why doesn't Motorola have a phablet sized phone? I hope rumors are true...
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Also, a better battery. The stock one... Sucks
skeevydude said:
I hear ya. I went "wtf, samba? At least I already run Linux, but this will suck for the average dude.”
I almost managed to get root using a modified samba method and my Defy. Probably could have if I looked into it farther, but rooting became so easy so fast I said f it....the bootloader was unlocked a month after I purchased the Atrix HD.
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I had to install ubuntu to do rooting and one day later, we have one-click rooting method :silly:
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Also, a better battery. The stock one... Sucks
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I'm usually able to get a full days worth of crap in with the current KK roms, less if I'm on the internet a lot, but for just music, maps, and phone calls, I can get up to 2 days on a single charge with the EB20. But yeah, I agree...the EB40 should be the regular battery and there shouldn't even be a Maxx version...
Crap battery is the trade off for thinner phones that act as a fashion statement....I don't think any of us are that vain and would prefer a long lasting brick over a short lasting cd case. Blame Apple and hipsters.
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I had to install ubuntu to do rooting and one day later, we have one-click rooting method :silly:
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If that doesn't take the cake then I don't know what does.
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I'm usually able to get a full days worth of crap in with the current KK roms, less if I'm on the internet a lot, but for just music, maps, and phone calls, I can get up to 2 days on a single charge with the EB20. But yeah, I agree...the EB40 should be the regular battery and there shouldn't even be a Maxx version...
Crap battery is the trade off for thinner phones that act as a fashion statement....I don't think any of us are that vain and would prefer a long lasting brick over a short lasting cd case. Blame Apple and hipsters.
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Well, without internet It could last more than a day but I use it most of the time. I wouldn't complain too much about it If I could just buy the EB40 but... It doesn't ship to my country. so I guess I'd need to get a new phone soon. I'm pretty sure It won't be a hipster thing.
And since I have no money, I'll be with my AHD for a while, Lol.
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Well, without internet It could last more than a day but I use it most of the time. I wouldn't complain too much about it If I could just buy the EB40 but... It doesn't ship to my country. so I guess I'd need to get a new phone soon. I'm pretty sure It won't be a hipster thing.
And since I have no money, I'll be with my AHD for a while, Lol.
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Same here, except the shipping part . That sucks. I picked the Atrix HD for function over fashion....could have got a GS3 at the time, but I don't want a plastic Samsung. Hell, I've only had one friend that's actually liked their Samsung phone and that's a buddy with a Note 3 (and he'd like it if it felt more durable as well as not liking the OS tweaks...his previous phone was a RAZR HD Maxx and he liked that OS)
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Same here, except the shipping part . That sucks. I picked the Atrix HD for function over fashion....could have got a GS3 at the time, but I don't want a plastic Samsung. Hell, I've only had one friend that's actually liked their Samsung phone and that's a buddy with a Note 3 (and he'd like it if it felt more durable as well as not liking the OS tweaks...his previous phone was a RAZR HD Maxx and he liked that OS)
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Well, the kevlar back looks really sexy. I wouldn't like a plastic samsung phone, even though a lot of people likes It, people's tastes are weird... The only thing I like of samsung is the #GALAXY11 Lol
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I've had my Bionic for the past 3 weeks now but I actually haven't used it since I didn't have a method for root access yet. Now that I realize how simple it was and did it (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17251186&postcount=19), I'll be actually using the device as my daily.
I realize that it's super late and close to release date anyway but is there anything the XDA community would like to know about the device? I'll be happy to give my opinions. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt if that makes any difference and am a rather die-hard HTC fan but I will try to be objective with the Bionic.
Edit: I also have a plethora of accessories (extended batteries, HD docking station, car dock, etc.) and will have the Webtop in a few days time if you'd like to know about them, too.
Don't know why no one believed me
I too used the same root method but no one believed me because i didn't have a picture of the phone, so i just pulled one of the net lol. Have to say that I am completely satisfied with it, much better than my DX
I just got word from my friend who runs a store, my Bionic will be ready for me on release day. Been running a Droid 2 since it was about 3 months old and it's done me well (since getting off blur and going to GB CM7, or even when it was Froyo). I am beside myself with anticipation right now.
i too am waiting for the release of the bionic,i m coming from the DROID x2 which is also a good phone. so whats the verdict on the Bionic? inquiring minds wanna know.
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I've had my Bionic for the past 3 weeks now but I actually haven't used it since I didn't have a method for root access yet. Now that I realize how simple it was and did it (see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=17251186&postcount=19), I'll be actually using the device as my daily.
I realize that it's super late and close to release date anyway but is there anything the XDA community would like to know about the device? I'll be happy to give my opinions. I'm coming from a Thunderbolt if that makes any difference and am a rather die-hard HTC fan but I will try to be objective with the Bionic.
Edit: I also have a plethora of accessories (extended batteries, HD docking station, car dock, etc.) and will have the Webtop in a few days time if you'd like to know about them, too.
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I do have one thing I'm curious about, is the bootloader unlocked??
HAHA, I'm lucky! I got my Droid Charge back in May from Bestbuy....ended up doing a price match on the 25th of July, which was about 40 days from the date of purchase and the 8th JUST SO happens to be the end of the 45 day return policy.....I'm incredibly excited for it!!
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I do have one thing I'm curious about, is the bootloader unlocked??
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Definitely locked.
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Definitely locked.
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-bionic-discussions/9085-droid-bionic-rooted.html
Do any of the tethering apps work?
Questions I have:
1. Is pentile as bad as the Atrix? That thing was blocky...
2. Can the phone actually draw the color yellow? Atrix could NOT. It was always a gold or brown color.
3. Hows the battery life? Realistically speaking can it last the whole day with average use?
4. Does the bulk around the camera hamper the feel of the phone?
5. Wireless tether app work?
Really really trying to get rid of this thunderbolt...
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Questions I have:
1. Is pentile as bad as the Atrix? That thing was blocky...
2. Can the phone actually draw the color yellow? Atrix could NOT. It was always a gold or brown color.
3. Hows the battery life? Realistically speaking can it last the whole day with average use?
4. Does the bulk around the camera hamper the feel of the phone?
5. Wireless tether app work?
Really really trying to get rid of this thunderbolt...
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All your questions are answered in this thread:
http://forums.androidcentral.com/droid-bionic/115848-my-bionic.html
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http://www.mydroidworld.com/forums/droid-bionic-discussions/9085-droid-bionic-rooted.html
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The question is whether or not the bootloader is locked, not whether it's rootable. If you had followed my link, I had used the same method to obtain root.
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Questions I have:
1. Is pentile as bad as the Atrix? That thing was blocky...
2. Can the phone actually draw the color yellow? Atrix could NOT. It was always a gold or brown color.
3. Hows the battery life? Realistically speaking can it last the whole day with average use?
4. Does the bulk around the camera hamper the feel of the phone?
5. Wireless tether app work?
Really really trying to get rid of this thunderbolt...
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1. Yes, it is just as bad in my opinion. Coming from strictly HTC phones (although my brother does have an Atrix) it was unbearable at first. Given some more time though, I've gotten used to it. The notification bar and battery icon are especially noticeable.
2. Yellows seem acceptable to me.
3. Battery life has been fine, even with fair usage I can get through a 12 hour day easily.
4. I actually find the bulk to work out well. Your finger can rest underneath it, and the phone is surprisingly light (especially compared to my Thunderbolt; it weighs way less with the normal battery and is no heaver than the TB with an extended battery in) so it holds well in the hand.
5. Neither Wireless Tether or Barnacle worked when I tried them.
Wow, no wireless tether? I may have to keep my iPhone then. I was really looking forward to tethering at 4G
ljmichael said:
Wow, no wireless tether? I may have to keep my iPhone then. I was really looking forward to tethering at 4G
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Given a small amount of time it will be possible. The problem is truly VZ cracking down on people tethering with unlimited data, putting them on a tiered plan and charging them the extra 20 or 30 or whatever a month for the tethering service (which is bull****!).
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The question is whether or not the bootloader is locked, not whether it's rootable. If you had followed my link, I had used the same method to obtain root.
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If the bootloader was locked, like you said it was....it wouldn't be rootable.
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If the bootloader was locked, like you said it was....it wouldn't be rootable.
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The bootloader does not need to be unlocked to obtain root access.
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If the bootloader was locked, like you said it was....it wouldn't be rootable.
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How does someone with 200 posts here become so misinformed?
ljmichael said:
Wow, no wireless tether? I may have to keep my iPhone then. I was really looking forward to tethering at 4G
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I imagine there'll be a workaround once more devs get a hand on the device. The Thunderbolt (and I imagine other Verizon devices) have the same issue and a modified app was available to tether with. That's honestly one of the few things I miss going from the TB to Bionic. All in due time, I'm sure.
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I imagine there'll be a workaround once more devs get a hand on the device. The Thunderbolt (and I imagine other Verizon devices) have the same issue and a modified app was available to tether with. That's honestly one of the few things I miss going from the TB to Bionic. All in due time, I'm sure.
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Yes. Again I can't imagine it's not already in the works from the few devs that might have gotten their hands on one early. If not, I'd give it a couple weeks.
So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!
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So with the Nexus 4 around the corner, I'm sure a lot of us are wondering if we should keep messing with this phone. The Nexus 4 is 300 bucks for the 8gb version, so you could sell this phone and get 150-200, and cover the rest. It is completely unlocked and has higher specs all around than this phone (besides no LTE which may stop me from buying it). So I was wondering how much of this community will stay with the AHD. It's a great device, especially with the new battery, but is it worth not be able to flash as many roms as possible to it? Let me know your opinions and help me make up my mind! If I do decide to get it I will have a AHD with the battey mod, otterbox, TPU case, hdmi, and Zagg screen protector for sale lol. But seriously anyone open to speak their minds? I don't know what to do!
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Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me
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Given the lack of a working recovery at this point. I'm giving serious consideration to picking up a N4 as my primary, and keeping my AHD as a backup.
If you read the reviews on the N4, in spite of the newer hardware, it still gets spanked by the One X, and the S3. HERE on Anandtech.
Knowing that my phone spanks both the OneX as well as the S3 like a red headed step child, it's going to be tough moving to a somewhat slower phone, but having a working recovery to backup, and flash my ROMs as updates occur is much more important to me
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Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.
SirHoover2010 said:
Everything I have read says that it's better than the S3 and One X. I know Hashcode will get a recovery worked out. I am also annoying Moto on twitter and their live chat. So we will see if they ever unlock this bootloader.
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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone
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lol read my hits @motorola. I try to spank them daily. Remember when tweeting them to use #motofail lol
As to the N4 being better than the One X and S3, read the link. The only thing it beats the S3 and One X is in gaming, and as I've said before, that's what my XBox is for, not my phone
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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.
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Ah, do you see any chance of us getting the bootloader unlocked? It looked like Matt was making good progress, I'm guessing that is when he bricked his phone, although I dont know for sure. Or do you think this phone will end up getting left behind completely. I really like this phone, but I am tired of moto already. Seriously, coming out with a dev version 4 months after the retail???? With NO word it will ever come out. That is absolute bs. At least let us trade in out retail version for the dev version (obviously with a small upgrade fee, maybe 50-100 bucks). I would be fine with that and it would be do able for them.
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I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
Just my .02c
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I don't know wtf Moto is up to lately?!?
I was reading that there's a "brick wall" between Google and Moto, meaning that Google bought them for their patents, and they refuse to show any bias towards them in fear of pissing off other phone manufacturers.
I sure wish Google would rethink this strategy, and start building phones that really blow anything else out of the water.
They have the OS, and they now own a company that has the "potential" to build the best phones out, yet they keep frigging things up.
I know I'll never purchase another Moto phone until/unless they start rethinking their strategy, and at the very least stop encrypting the signatures for the bootloaders.
Just my .02c
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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol
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Yea I read that also, I also read the that "brick wall" may, just may, be full of holes lol
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Let's hope that no one starts sticking their thumbs in those holes lol
LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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From reviews, it suppose to be pretty high quality. Also is suppose to feel nice in the hand. With that said, still a good point and something to look for.
LG's build quailty is under-rated. Same as with any hobby or whatever you call this phone obsession. People look at price and give it a bad name. I think LG started turning the corner with the Nitro. It was a solid phone. Nothing compares to Moto though with build quality. But I think LG beats Samsung and HTC.
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LG phone? You know that build quality is about on par with a fake Chinese triple sim yPhone... forget it...
Ill buy another phone when it can be converted to a laptop with the whole bundle costing under $300.
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Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device?!?
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
ATGAdmin said:
Yeah ummm OK. Google is going to allow LG to build them a cheap azz phone as their flagship Nexus device
And keep holding your breath for that bundle under $300.00 lol
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.
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I have had lg phones back in the day that crapped out on me, BUT my roommate has an lg phone and it has been a great phone for him.
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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Yeah, while I'm not a big fan of LG devices, the N4 was built to Google's specs, not LG's.
For soljagirl to say otherwise was ludicrous lol
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.
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Not to mention there is no way any of us have actually used the device yet. I did see a review where the back was already cracked though. Not a good sign, but could also just be a freak accident.
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Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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Anandtech's Performance review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6425/google-nexus-4-and-nexus-10-review
Their "Closer Look" review here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6419/nexus-4-and-nexus-10-a-closer-look
The back is made of glass, the one big negative if you're one not to use a case.
Like no one learned anything from the mistakes of the IPhone/IPod?!?
Sent from my A H Delicious Maxxx!
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I wish I could send my Atrix HD to google and get a good percentage off on this phone lol. I am over not being able to flash away. That is a big reason I got an android, I wanted to learn to develop roms. Unfortunately I feel that is much harder on a locked down device lol
Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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Oh I'm staying. Don't need the nexus 4. Very happy with my Had.
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Haha I agree, I will be giving it a few more months! I have decided to wait lol
I'll definitely be sticking with the Atrix HD. I was a flashaholic on my Atrix 4G so I was disappointed that this phone has a locked down bootloader. On the other hand, I've had absolutely no complaints about this phone especially where battery life is concerned with the EB40. Having all the power that this phone has to offer with excellent battery life is just what I needed. This phone has completely replaced my computers altogether. As for the bootloader, Hashcode has already done tremendous work on getting safestrap working for our devices. Why worry about a locked bootloader when we can get around it with safestrap? Isn't the point of an unlocked bootloader to get a custom recovery for flashing and isn't that what safestrap hopes to do without the need for unlocking the bootloader? I won't be giving this phone up anytime soon and I look forward to getting a Paranoid Android build going for it.
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I'm throwing in the towel with my Droid Bionic. Frankly my experiences with this phone have been a complete disaster.
I got the phone in the first place because I wanted the lapdock. Thus far I've never got my lapdock working for more than 2 or 3 minutes at a time. Even doing flash to stock etc etc I still end up with no mouse control on the lapdock - stupid thing just freezes as soon as it comes up. At one point Verizon decided to ship me a replacement phone thinking that one of the ports on my phone was bad. Well not only did the new phone have the same problem - but they ended up charging me $600 for it because they claim they never got the one I shipped back. Despite my numerous calls to verizon they simply have elected to not do anything about it. So after buying two phones and a lapdock all I have is a phone that still does not work right and a lapdock that might as well be an oversized paperweight.
Between that and the crap like locking the bootloader, promising updates then not delivering I think this will be the last motorola unit I buy for a loooong looong time.
cool story. took you 2 years to figure all of this out? never thought to take either back while in warranty? not saying this phone is perfect but these are the things most normal people would have done.
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cool story. took you 2 years to figure all of this out? never thought to take either back while in warranty? not saying this phone is perfect but these are the things most normal people would have done.
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I made tons of calls to both Motorola and Verizon regarding all of this. Verizon says they'll send me yet another phone (this would actually be my 4th one - I left out part of the sob story) - however they refuse to allow me to return the one I have to the store if they do that. Of course I have a real problem with that seeing how they ripped me off $600 already by claiming they never received one of my old ones I shipped back. Motorola pretty much said screw-off deal with Verizon.
What it boils down to is VZW sold me something that does not work, has never worked, sent me 3 replacements all of which did not work, charged me $600 for one of those when they should not have - and all the meantime I have a pile of **** that still don't work and a lapdock I can't use. --- and VZW seems to not give a crap about any of it.
Really disgusting experience all the way around. Just as a matter of principle I'm considering printing out all of the correspondences and march my butt down to small claims court and demand a) my $600 back and b) refund all my monthly bills for past 2 years since I've never had a properly working device.
You should post this to the new Marketing consultant to Motorola, Guy Kawasaki on Google+.
A new sob story may net u a current HD MAXX or discount (or better) to the X phone whenever it launches.
My dad's always said, the answer's always no unless you ask.
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I made tons of calls to both Motorola and Verizon regarding all of this. Verizon says they'll send me yet another phone (this would actually be my 4th one - I left out part of the sob story) - however they refuse to allow me to return the one I have to the store if they do that. Of course I have a real problem with that seeing how they ripped me off $600 already by claiming they never received one of my old ones I shipped back. Motorola pretty much said screw-off deal with Verizon.
What it boils down to is VZW sold me something that does not work, has never worked, sent me 3 replacements all of which did not work, charged me $600 for one of those when they should not have - and all the meantime I have a pile of **** that still don't work and a lapdock I can't use. --- and VZW seems to not give a crap about any of it.
Really disgusting experience all the way around. Just as a matter of principle I'm considering printing out all of the correspondences and march my butt down to small claims court and demand a) my $600 back and b) refund all my monthly bills for past 2 years since I've never had a properly working device.
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why have you never exchanged the lapdock?
Despite Motorola's efforts to ruin the device, I still find it to be pretty good. Its not the sexiest of devices, but its pretty solid and I've found I can do just about anything that the newer devices are able to do. I've learned that you enjoy a device more when you make it work for you, rather than wait for them to add new features and a system update. I'm not sure how much more Jellybean could offer because I'm able to do just about everything that Android is capable of doing.
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Sorry you had bad luck with your phone. A lot of people had their bionic replaced with a nexus or a RAZR by Verizon for much less than you mentioned. Are you interested in selling your lapdock?
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hmm sent back a $600 phone without tracking and delivery confirmation? That would not be Motorola's fault.
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hmm sent back a $600 phone without tracking and delivery confirmation? That would not be Motorola's fault.
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I'm guessing he used the return label VZW sends you with your replacement phone. Which means that he probably didn't write down the tracking info (who would, unless they've had issues before?), and just packed up the old phone and sent it in. This isn't the first time this has happened, BTW. I'm more surprised they didn't try to replace the lapdock for him as well.
OP, good luck with your next device... I've been looking for a replacement for my Bionic as its started to have some issues, and I'm not really happy with the options at this point. I'm hoping for some new stuff around Google I/O, but not holding my breath. FWIW, I've had way fewer hardware issues with my Bionic than with previous phones.
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I'm guessing he used the return label VZW sends you with your replacement phone. Which means that he probably didn't write down the tracking info (who would, unless they've had issues before?), and just packed up the old phone and sent it in. This isn't the first time this has happened, BTW. I'm more surprised they didn't try to replace the lapdock for him as well.
OP, good luck with your next device... I've been looking for a replacement for my Bionic as its started to have some issues, and I'm not really happy with the options at this point. I'm hoping for some new stuff around Google I/O, but not holding my breath. FWIW, I've had way fewer hardware issues with my Bionic than with previous phones.
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I agree, the latest have not been anything close to wow.
collije said:
You should post this to the new Marketing consultant to Motorola, Guy Kawasaki on Google+.
A new sob story may net u a current HD MAXX or discount (or better) to the X phone whenever it launches.
My dad's always said, the answer's always no unless you ask.
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Good idea - I will do that.
neo1738 said:
why have you never exchanged the lapdock?
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Well since the phone doesn't work right there is no point.
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Sorry you had bad luck with your phone. A lot of people had their bionic replaced with a nexus or a RAZR by Verizon for much less than you mentioned. Are you interested in selling your lapdock?
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Well I only paid 50 bucks for it - but I wouldn't feel right about selling it to someone because I don't know if it actually works right.
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I'm guessing he used the return label VZW sends you with your replacement phone. Which means that he probably didn't write down the tracking info (who would, unless they've had issues before?), and just packed up the old phone and sent it in. This isn't the first time this has happened, BTW. I'm more surprised they didn't try to replace the lapdock for him as well.
OP, good luck with your next device... I've been looking for a replacement for my Bionic as its started to have some issues, and I'm not really happy with the options at this point. I'm hoping for some new stuff around Google I/O, but not holding my breath. FWIW, I've had way fewer hardware issues with my Bionic than with previous phones.
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Ahh yes the infamous tracking-number / label problem. Well that is how they screwed this all up to begin with I think. When they sent me a replacement phone, there was no return shipping label in the box. I called VZW and they sent me another box that was empty, expect for a return shipping label. I've tried and tried and tried to explain to them that my guess is that they're looking at the wrong shipping label because of this.
Everytime I call now they say the same thing. "Ok - we're going to start an investigation". Yes, that's right - since last August, every time I call they say this. I think the count is at 59 times now they've said they're "starting the investigation" (I will have to check my notes on exact number).. It's just a bunch of bull****.
Ok so..
Its been about 12 days since I have had this phone. I thought I could be patient enough with it to maybe wait for a root (if developers are even still working on it.)
Turns out I am not so patient.. I would rather switch to a company like HTC who is kind enough to give tools to their customers who want the option to do what they want with their own ****ing cell phone that they purchased. :highfive:
Anyway..
My question is: Is anyone familiar with the return policy? I am pretty sure that it is 14 days and I can trade it back in hopefully for an M8, but if someone that has experience or knowledge with this can shed some more light I would be very grateful.
Second question would be do you guys think the HTC One M8 is the best option for me right now? Ill be going through at&t and I want to be able to root and flash roms. Preferably some of the more popular ones like AOKP or Pac-Man etc..
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Ok so..
Its been about 12 days since I have had this phone. I thought I could be patient enough with it to maybe wait for a root (if developers are even still working on it.)
Turns out I am not so patient.. I would rather switch to a company like HTC who is kind enough to give tools to their customers who want the option to do what they want with their own ****ing cell phone that they purchased. :highfive:
Anyway..
My question is: Is anyone familiar with the return policy? I am pretty sure that it is 14 days and I can trade it back in hopefully for an M8, but if someone that has experience or knowledge with this can shed some more light I would be very grateful.
Second question would be do you guys think the HTC One M8 is the best option for me right now? Ill be going through at&t and I want to be able to root and flash roms. Preferably some of the more popular ones like AOKP or Pac-Man etc..
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just go do it. why do you need to ask about it when you already know the terms. simply call them or go to the store.
Later.
I am not sure about the terms, that's why I posted on these forums asking. That's why I said "I'm pretty sure" and asked if someone who knew for sure could give me more details. :good:
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I am not sure about the terms, that's why I posted on these forums asking. That's why I said "I'm pretty sure" and asked if someone who knew for sure could give me more details. :good:
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what's the point of posting anything here. whats the point of even sharing your thoughts of switching. if you made your decision, just go and do it. why ask us when you can ask AT&T? just leave man
Because I bought it on launch day and I am not sure how many days you get before you can return the phone. A lot of people are switching too or getting the TMO version, so I think a topic like this could become helpful to others as well.
Not sure why you are being rude, if you aren't going to help or say anything worth reading just stop typing. I didn't mean to hurt anyone's feelings in showing that I think owning a locked down device isn't for me anymore.. it's still a great phone. I just thought I would be more patient or enjoy stock more, but I was wrong.
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I am not sure about the terms, that's why I posted on these forums asking. That's why I said "I'm pretty sure" and asked if someone who knew for sure could give me more details. :good:
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14 days from purchase to return and a $35 restocking fee are basically the terms.
Personally, I wouldn't switch. I think the S5 is a superior device even without root (for now). but you gotta do what's best for you. Good luck.
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14 days from purchase to return and a $35 restocking fee are basically the terms.
Personally, I wouldn't switch. I think the S5 is a superior device even without root (for now). but you gotta do what's best for you. Good luck.
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Thank you for a real reply and for the information, its really appreciated.
I think the S5 is a superior device too, but I really need root for certain apps. Not to mention flashing roms can be pretty fun.
Also sooo much bloat I just want to remove, not a big deal, but prefer a clean device.
Pretty sure mine will be going back in the next few days as well. I love the camera and the water resistance is great, but for the price, with the ehh battery life I've been getting and some annoying software stuff, it can't do anything that my international Note II can't.
In the future if/when someone can find an exploit and get root, I would definitely give it another shot.
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Pretty sure mine will be going back in the next few days as well. I love the camera and the water resistance is great, but for the price, with the ehh battery life I've been getting and some annoying software stuff, it can't do anything that my international Note II can't.
In the future if/when someone can find an exploit and get root, I would definitely give it another shot.
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Yea I completely agree. The cons just outweigh the pros for me personally in this situation!
The bloat you can disable until root comes out
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Daxxer2007 said:
The bloat you can disable since root won't come out
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Ftfy
I'm enjoying all these people giving up its really quite amusing. I had a backflip and an atrix your puny 12 day wait has nothing on the wait for those phones to have root.
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I'm enjoying all these people giving up its really quite amusing. I had a backflip and an atrix your puny 12 day wait has nothing on the wait for those phones to have root.
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Well the reason for the rush is I can return it for something that already has root and more development. I'd rather get more enjoyment now rather than hope and wait. Although if the return policy stated like 2 months or something, I'd honestly probably still wait those 2 months because I do enjoy this phone.
It's also the principal of the situation too though. I'm not ALL FOR companies that sell overpriced phones that, when bought, are just so locked down that i don't even feel like it's actually fully mine.
I've got a week to decide, I may stop in to have a look at the competition.
I've been seeing a lot of people posting that they aren't getting that great of battery life. I'm getting about 36 hours uptime with about 6 hours screen. Is that better or worse than what you guys are seeing? TIA.
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Josborne6 said:
I've been seeing a lot of people posting that they aren't getting that great of battery life. I'm getting about 36 hours uptime with about 6 hours screen. Is that better or worse than what you guys are seeing? TIA.
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There only seems to be a handful complaining, even on other forums people are getting crazy good battery life. Heck I can have on screen time of 4-5+ hours, tons of email, text, phone calls etc, all sync is on, gps is on etc.... and still have plenty life left at the end of the day, actually as I type this in similar situation I have 22% life left and been off the charger for 33 hours, and even browsing I still have 4 tabs open. First phone where the thought of not having enough battery doesn't even occur to me, going to be nice on trips lol.
Far as the OP, do what you have to do, though I don't know why you'd think root would've been available by now on this phone, this isn't the old days where people could crack same day. I liked the M8 but couldn't put up with the camera and bulkiness plus no water proofing.
I have the M8. If you like flashing and customizing it is a no brainer. I myself am running stock and still enjoy the device.
My wife has a S5. It's pretty and white and shimmers like nail polish. Perfect phone for a beautiful girl.
Also as far as the discussion of superiority of either device. It's an opinionated one. Each excels at their own intended goals.
If the camera of the M8 is scaring you, just ask yourself . " will I be on assignment for national geographic where I will need to take epic photos on the go?"
If you answered no, then this camera should be good enough for your personal use.
It seems like you're just asking for that little push for you to make the trade.
I am giving you that "push". Everything will be okay in HTC land....be free...
Oh yeah. Have fun with the raised speaker grills. The gamble on receiving two variations of the LCD screen and ... Yeah that's about it.
HTC UltimEight ?
It really depends on where you bought the device. Typical return policy would be 14 days. Some vendors do not charge a restocking fees on returns but "I heard" AT&T can charge you. This was forwarded to me from the sales rep. I got my S5 at Target and returned it. I was not charged with a restocking fee by them or At&t that I am aware of.
I got myself the M8 since I wanted root.
Jooosty said:
I have the M8. If you like flashing and customizing it is a no brainer. I myself am running stock and still enjoy the device.
My wife has a S5. It's pretty and white and shimmers like nail polish. Perfect phone for a beautiful girl.
Also as far as the discussion of superiority of either device. It's an opinionated one. Each excels at their own intended goals.
If the camera of the M8 is scaring you, just ask yourself . " will I be on assignment for national geographic where I will need to take epic photos on the go?"
If you answered no, then this camera should be good enough for your personal use.
It seems like you're just asking for that little push for you to make the trade.
I am giving you that "push". Everything will be okay in HTC land....be free...
Oh yeah. Have fun with the raised speaker grills. The gamble on receiving two variations of the LCD screen and ... Yeah that's about it.
HTC UltimEight ?
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I have both, a gunmetal grey m8 and shimmery white tmo s5 sim unlocked for ATT, The m8 is great if you like to mod/customize, you can run Sense, GPE, or AOSP (cm is already being worked on)...The s5 (ATT) obviously is locked down....both phones are very nice it just depends if you need the ability to customize.
So I understand that we have locked bootloader but it seems that these forums are dying. This is the first LG phone ive ever owned but it really feels dead even compared to my Galaxy note 3. It's like nobody is even trying to do anything with it and its made me quite sad. Anyone have any suggestions as to how to make this phone feel fun and different like I remember doing to my Galaxy s2 or s3? I miss the good old days when a new rom came out every week and new exploits came out almost instantly.
Since there is no official unlock method, it's very tough to develop. Even if there was a workaround to unlock, these money hungry CDMA carriers lock us out of fastboot and adb, so it wouldn't be possible either way. I really wish I would've waited for the new Nexus phones or the OnePlus Two.
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Since there is no official unlock method, it's very tough to develop. Even if there was a workaround to unlock, these money hungry CDMA carriers lock us out of fastboot and adb, so it wouldn't be possible either way. I really wish I would've waited for the new Nexus phones or the OnePlus Two.
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The one plus 2 isn't for CDMA, but yeah, the nexus phone would have been great.
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The one plus 2 isn't for CDMA, but yeah, the nexus phone would have been great.
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Wasn't saying it was. I'm saying I wish I would've waited for it. I didn't want a carrier phone to begin with, but the G4 made me want it. Big mistake
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I know how you feel. I had mine since release and though I think its an all around great phone root for the most part has done me justice. I just think the general idea of bootloader locking is bull**** and should be illegal. I would love a nexus phone but I will not buy into googles push to cloud storage and their services. I can deal with no removable battery but non expandable memory is a no go. Honestly if/when we get android M on the G3 and we get a custom rom I will go back to it provided the bluetooth issues are ironed out. But thats just my 2 cents
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I know how you feel. I had mine since release and though I think its an all around great phone root for the most part has done me justice. I just think the general idea of bootloader locking is bull**** and should be illegal. I would love a nexus phone but I will not buy into googles push to cloud storage and their services. I can deal with no removable battery but non expandable memory is a no go. Honestly if/when we get android M on the G3 and we get a custom rom I will go back to it provided the bluetooth issues are ironed out. But thats just my 2 cents
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Bootloader unlock, illegal... Really? Please don't be that guy. We bought the phone, we should be able to do what we want to it. That's like buying a car and it being illegal to change your own oil.
You might want to read that again. Where did I state that UN locking it should be illegal. I said the whole boot loader locking thing is bs ie we should not be locked out from it.
I called LG and talk to a tech who told me if I send my phone to them they would unlock my bootloader but it would void my warranty and of course I already knew that but I was just shocked that they said yes instead of telling me no.