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Galaxy Gear 2

Say what? Already?
Built in Gps & 4Gb....why must they do this to early adopters (and so soon). I can't complain, mine was free with my Note 3, but I still feel a bit...meh.
"The Samsung Galaxy Gear 2 will reportedly launch as an all-Android device which means you won't have to own either the Samsung Galaxy S4, Galaxy Note 3 or Galaxy S3.
According to Pocket-Lint, Samsung's next-generation Smart Watch will come sporting in-built GPS along with 4GB of onboard memory, it'll also come with running and music apps straight out of the box, something which the original Galaxy Gear was criticised for not having.
It's not clear whether Samsung will keep the same design as the original Galaxy Gear or whether the company will decide to make some changes there as well in light of the fact that it would work with any Android smartphone.
Whilst it may seem as though this is a very short turnaround for a company to be releasing an update it's actually something Samsung has plenty of practise at with the Galaxy range being constantly updated throughout the year."
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we don't need that. galaxy gear is perfectly capable of running internet browser and navigation apps, it just need custom rom for that.
they need to update the software and get rid of touchwiz, it will never be usefull.
Galaxy range being constantly updated throughout the year.
say what? they barely make updates, and when they do they do not work properly leaving the user with broken software for MONTHS.

CES 2014 does not mean they will start selling it it the middle of January either.
I like two things,
A display that does not need to time out in 5 seconds
Double the battery life (even though the gear has great battery life now)

They better make the first gear, compatible with all phones so at least we can get some resale value.
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Nah, Samsung is going to build the first Nexus watch that will be introduced at CES 2014 Or... whatever

Wow, only ordered one last night. Now question is, do I cancel and wait six months? Now I have typed it out in front of me I say hell no...

Why?
With the work that FOmey and others are doing, why go for 2.0. I have a browser, Nova Launcher, etc. Does far more than my Pebble and getting much more every day. This is what I bought mine for. Other than a few minor thing, it is doing more than I thought it could less than 6 weeks after release. I'm sure we will get TWRP or CWM soon, so we'll have all we need. The hardware is already great, so I'm enjoying it. I'll be buying 2.0 down the road, being a hardware junkie, but this has been so much fun already.

hurdlejade said:
Galaxy range being constantly updated throughout the year.
say what? they barely make updates, and when they do they do not work properly leaving the user with broken software for MONTHS.
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Yea I think they were referring to hardware updates rather than software ones. I agree though, bar lack of rich notifications over most apps, I love mine too

We all know were going to buy it as soon as it hits the shelves.. or atleast I am
I look forward to it ! Would be nice if they offered trade in's if its such a short period of time after the initial release date.

Yeah.. will buy the next gear if it hit the store.. But I will still keep my gear tho..
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fOmey said:
We all know were going to buy it as soon as it hits the shelves.. or atleast I am
I look forward to it ! Would be nice if they offered trade in's if its such a short period of time after the initial release date.
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Only if the Screen does not time out........ At screen on 24/7
Who am I kidding if it came out next week, I likely would buy it

i'm tired of being an early adopter and then left for loong time with barely to no support at all.
they will have to make more improvements if they want my money again.

Early adopter with no support? Really? With the frequent updates samsung provides...i think they are doing a stand up job.
The gear is in constant development and improvment. That's why we all buy samsung. What other company provides as many updates across their Android portfolio as they do?
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gtxaspec said:
Early adopter with no support? Really? With the frequent updates samsung provides...i think they are doing a stand up job.
The gear is in constant development and improvment. That's why we all buy samsung. What other company provides as many updates across their Android portfolio as they do?
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+1 - Also if the phone is not getting the updates thats due to the cel company's not pushing them out, Because Samsung is.
Also if it was to come out soon I would keep my current Gear. and get the new one. But what if it does not have all that I want and have to wait for cool roms again to make it mine. (OK, OK, I could just do it the old fashioned way) But this is why I love being Married, Her wife have my Gear, Dang now I need one, Time to get the Gear 2. LOL Did that with the Note 2 to the Note 3, gave her my note 2 and got me then note 3. I love my understanding wife.)

From what I read, the first great was to test the market. I was about to buy one but now I will wait a few months. It's hard to keep up with innovation and technology and Samsung is at the forefront. Very similar to what the did What the s3 to the s4.. I believe it was 9 months between them.
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You gotta watch out for the word "reportedly"...some of these "reported" stories are bs
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Dont you think this phone got old too fast?

Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.

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Just as the title says. This phone hasnt gotten the best of time really, its just been 1.5 years and it got replaced by Optimus G, Optimus Gpro, optimus G2 and other iterations of LG. WHat makes me kinda weary is how bad this is compared to the likes of S3. I mean that phone got the 4.22 and still has a n active community, I hardly see any posts here.
I percieve this as unfair because this phone, i feel, is better than some if not all midrange phones that are available today. Some people got shafted by issues such as dust underscreen but I never had that problem.
Would this phone still be a good buy compared to a midrange phone such as Moto G? The moto g is cheap and powerful but what about build quality?
I must say, the moto g is the only midrange phone that is extremely worth to what it is offering, most midrange phones new or old are too expensive compared to old flagships, like comparing the S4 mini with our phone...
I think that too many phones are pumped out just for the heck of it. There is no real evolution compared to last year.
Bigger sizes + lots of gimmicks that could easily be added with a software update and so on.Most seem to have bigger batteries and beter screens but heck, I can buy a bigger battery and the higher PPI does not bother me because I cant see individual pixels...So, whats the point in upgrading?
The only phone that seems innovative on LGs side is the G flex, it seems both from the material side and the way it looks as a change that is noticable and useful.
You know, I wish old flagships at least did not die because 500 other flagships got released. Things age too quicly.
And no, apple is not the answer. i cant stand apple products... I hate their design,iOS and their pricing is ridiculous.
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Yes ..this phone was the most under rated phone .
Its actually better than s3 ...
Feeling sad for the 4x hd users ..
Shame on you LG ...
They haven't even provided software updates
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Yep
I'm getting the Samsung Galaxy S4 mini soon (read 2 weeks), just because i want a phone with the same price range (~300 euros) and one which does actually gets new updates

The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.

inigagah said:
The problem with this phone is due too LG releasing too many top of the lines model at very rapid succession. Plus most Android manufacturer are too focused on their hardware and less on the software, making continuous software updates not exactly a priority. Samsung seems to be aware of this and are improving whilst LG & HTC are still in this trajectory. Sad, really. This phone is really good but the software is holding it back.
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This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...

brunek said:
This is business! They put out, back to back, new phones and neglect software updates so that we, stupid consumers, could spend money on the new phone! If they update software for a great period of time, there would be no need for new phones and technologies and they would ran out of business! Simple as that...
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Apple made 3 year old phones that are still compatible with the latest software updates, also the latest iDevices have less ram than the latest android whilst also ran faster. The problem in android's core engineering used to made manufacturers reluctant to update their software since the hw might not be able to handle the software. But then Jelly Bean came out and ran faster in older devices, and things should change accordingly. But they're not. So yes, it might be their business mindset that needs to change.

I agree to this.. Someone mentioned that they even can get KK 4.4 on their Samsung Galaxy 1!
I'm also thinking about buying a new phone, but it's sad since the Optimus 4X is a good phone! I don't want a phone with the actionbar or what they call it (the back, home and menu buttons on-screen). And IF you gonna buy a new phone these days, i'm thinking it's smart to go for a phone with 1080x1920 screen. I'm thinking HTC One..

i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(

greece-for-ever said:
i love my x4 is very powerfull with nice screen normal size the only bad i battery :'(
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I've noticed the problem with the battery drain as well, but only the last 2 months or so.. I run official CM10.1.3 stable, dunno if that's worse than CM10.2.. Kinda made me wonder lately!

i have try many roms and kernels combo because baterry drain and the best for me is zabien RC7 with original kernel underlock to 475 mhz verry low governor performance set 1 core ...all run enough smooth and i have 3h 50m screen on the best so far for me ... sorry for bad english
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Don't buy a new phone.
The industry wants you to think that you have to upgrade your phone every year, but really, what are you missing?
Is it that important to have 480ppi instead of 320 although you can't really tell a big difference? Is it necessary that your processor is twice as fast, although you can play pretty much every game completely lag free?
Back in the days people had their cellphone for many years, they were solid and bug-free. I think it isn't good to support the development of the ever-growing mobile industry, this isn't good for the environment and it isn't good for your purse

Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).

Maczuga said:
Surely our beloved phone got old too fast, but I guess it's perfect time to sell it for quite higher price and add about 35$ (in Poland) to get for example SGS 3. Then you'll get much better support from almost all sources (SGS 3 is receiving official 4.3, so..). I really hoped that our O4X would be easily developed by any dev, but now when I see that we won't even receive 3.4 kernel with OTG capability I must say, that in my opinion we already have our peak of developement (of course I know that unofficial 4.4 is comming, but for me there is no diffrence with causal kernel).
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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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I wont buy an other phone, I will stick to this at least for more 2 years.
I've saved up too much for this and I have the confidence in our developers.

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Why would you buy a s3?? I mean it is also an old device with similar capabilities. Nexus 5 or even a nexus 4 seems like a better choice. But, for god's sake guys, did you buy phones for development purposes or to use, which, in my case, I bought it to use as a smartphone and it hasn't disappoint me too much, exact, may be other than battery.
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Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.

Maczuga said:
Both Nexus phones doesn't have SD card slot, so it's not worth me, currently I'm using built-in 16GB + 32GB card, also N4 - tegra, and here it costs around 500$, nexus 5 - 700$ (sick pricing). I need a phone that would in some cases replace a PC, so OTG is must have. I wanted to stick to this phone for 2 years, but for now it's impossible, and I really liked this device, it looks so beautiful.
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Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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[email protected] said:
Inside N4, theee is a freaking s4 pro with adreno 320 not tegra and seriously where would you live so that nexus devices cost that much? I live in south east Asia and nexus 5 - 500$, N4 -300$. BTW, nexus 5 does support USB otg.
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In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.

Maczuga said:
In Poland we don't have Play Store with phones, just apps. We have to buy it from local stores, where pricing is like you see.
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Amazon pls
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This will be my last phone of LG...Had HTC Trophy 7 before this one and it received updates regulary issued by Microsoft. Now I have this phone which on paper is amazing and its good in RL too, but I am stuck with old version of Android just because LG wont bother their overpaid devs to release new versions. So basically my LG is in graveyard regarding software. Next time I will go either with Nexus line from Google or go back to MS...at least when they upgrade system all manufacturers receive it...

Just shortly. The only thing i am missing probably is battery of something like 3000mAh.
Everything else fits price and in compare with other phones is just perfect.
You shouldnt request full developers forum as this phone is not a popular model. However with such users population it is just great to have at least few devs!!!!
For those who talk about MS. Probably that is wrong forum to talk about it...
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Replacing mako...

I'm feeling sad. Because I know my mako will soon be spreading its wings and going to a new home. My contract is up and I promised a friend who had an S4 nicked only a couple of weeks after getting it that she could have my N4 when my contract is up for renewal (I wouldn't really want anybody to be stuck with a Desire running stock 2.2...) But my real question and purpose for posting here is what do I get to replace it? I know there's an obvious answer and the Nexus 5 is probably what I'll end up with, but I thought I'd throw this out there for the advice of you lovely netizens
I've played with an N5 in the O2 shop and it really doesn't feel like much of an upgrade to the 4. I'm not particularly fond of the very generic industrial design or the in-hand feel. I'm sure given a bit of tinkering and a custom ROM it could be quite nice, but with the stock ROM on the N5 (obviously) and the modded colour profile on the N4, I actually prefer the LCD on the mako! The camera is much better on the 5, not that I use it much, and I suppose the battery life ought to be a bit better. It really didn't feel any faster but I'm sure SlimKat + over clock vs stock is not a fair comparison. It just seems silly to be stuck with a phone for 2 years which has already been made obsolete (in my mind) by this years' MWC launches and which doesn't really represent a big upgrade from the phone I have now.
So what about the S5? I've pretty much discounted it due to the fact that it's a Samsung, which means AOSP ROM support will be poor, it will suffer from SOD and probably also fry its eMMC after a few months Although I'm sure there are people willing to endure that for a removable battery and a microSD slot, I'm not one of them. Funnily enough, several of my friends who own/owned S3s have said they'll not buy another Sammy...
The Z2? Well, I guess it's likely to have good AOSP support so long as I can get my mitts on an unbranded one (no prob, I'll just renew through Carphone Warehouse) but it's also GIGANTIC and I'm not sure whether it uses the easily broken dragon trail glass and that daft easily scratched plastic outer layer like the original Z.
I presume there will be a new HTC One (two?) very soon, which has a chance of being a more reasonable size and probably better build quality than the competitors but I don't know what the situation with bootloader locking is like on current HTC Qualcomm devices? (Assuming it will be Qualcomm) After my One X debacle, I pretty much told myself I wouldn't buy another HTC but I have had many over the years which have been great so it seems mean not to forgive them for that one terrible device.
I presume LG won't be in on this round of upgrades (aside from phabletty ones) but I had considered the G2 due to its larger battery but otherwise similar hardware to the N5?
Yeah, I guess I'll just get an N5.
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You answered your own question by the end. BTW you should root your desire and flash KitKat on it.
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I would look at the lg g flex to ik its huge but the screen is pretty alsome
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Got the same problem want to replace my nexus 4 but no idea with what, also tried Nexus 5 but don't feel like update maybe the LG g2 because of bigger screen, but still don't feels like big upgrade...
LG flex is nice but ways to expensive
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If you cant wait (until nexus 6 is released), i would suggest new htc one or lg g2. Lg g2 has a great screen size, its sharp, but too saturated cartoonish colors, if you like that. Awesome battery, 5,6 hours of screen on time, great camera. it has a great devs support but its not working as smooth as nexus 5. So in order: nexus 6, new htc one, lg g2 (or nexus 5 if you really like aosp and smoothness).
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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G2 is a legit contender
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Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
Nexus 4, PA 4.4.2

stuffynet said:
Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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I heard so as well.
Hardware and Price definitly make it a great Phone.
After a quick personal test I have to say coming from a Stock/Custom Rom the UI is really ugly, but there are custom Roms.

OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?

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OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?
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So? My equally-4-year-old HTC Vision runs KitKat. I mean, sure, Apple officially released their latest OS for the iPhone 4 (and hopefully the performance will be acceptable this time) but I've never run a shipping ROM on any device I've owned since my original iPhone, anyway, so the crappy long term support of Android device manufacturers not a big deal for me. Also, there seems to be a lot of pro-Apple sentiment for long-term device support but I don't think that's a gesture of kindness or 'different' business behaviour to other manufacturers. Really, they have to keep support, since they keep crummy old devices on the market a lot longer than other manufacturers. I know a few people who still have remaining months on two year contracts with iPhone 4s, but I'm fairly certain that's not going to be the case with any Android handset which was launched around the same time.
Incidentally, I think I've settled on the G2. Given that the cost to me will be the same with an N5 or a G2, it seems silly not to go for the bigger battery, (much) contrastier screen and better camera since I'll run CM/AOSP either way. It means dealing with nasty Samsung-like glossy plastic, but given that it's already good, I'm thinking the battery life ought to be insane once all the LG OEM crap is gone
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
Nexus 4, PA 4.4.2
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who's feeling weirdly reminiscent about replacing my Mako... Usually I'm terribly excited to get my mitts on a new device, but this time I'm just left wondering how I'll cope if I don't like whatever I replace it with as much

I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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prog19 said:
I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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Azurael said:
I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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That's what we're seing in the Optimus G forum. The development follows the lead of N4, but not at the same pace. My GF has one and simply love the lg UI and the miniapps. But the device is great and stuck in the 4.1.1
There's a lot of great devs there, like XboxfanJ, and many many others doing a great job porting things out, but it's a shame that LG is failing to provide a update to any other android version. Even 4.3 would be great in that device.
I had to root my GF Optimus G just to use fstrim, because it was becoming laggy as hell. And while google is doing a magnificent job puting the Gapps avaible in the playstore, she misses some nice features, like the notifications listener, or immersive mode, but at the same time, being with the device since november of 2013 (here in brazil mid class people just have to be one generation or two behind every single eletronic stuff, because they are expensive as hell) she doesn't want to void the warranty.
The really bad thing about LG is that they launch their flagships with old android versions, update short after the relase and then go with the excuse that the device has already seen a major upgrade.
OG came with 4.0 and then was updated to 4.1
LG Flex came with 4.2
G2 came with 4.2
And that's the way they do their business.

If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
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Connor Baker said:
If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
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No, I literally will not buy Samsung hardware on principle. I've seen too many dead S2s, notes, S3s, etc. That is a company with zero concept of quality control, to keep releasing b0rked eMMC controllers, generation after generation. Plus, if you begin to read the CM device managers' posts on Exynos support, you see what a ****ty attitude they have for the development community, even if most current devices are Qualcomm based and a lot easier to work with. Plus I'm not and never have been enamoured with their hardware in general. Sadly, the G2 looks and feels like a Samsung, but I guess I'll have to live with that. Oh, and what good is a GPE unless you're buying your device outright? AFAIK a Nexus 5 is the only chance you have of getting a shipping 'stock' android device here on contract.
Edit: I reaslise I probably came across as a bit of an arse in this post. Sorry, Samsung make me angry. It might be worth waiting for the new HTC One but I'm fairly certain the camera will be rubbish and it still has a small screen with a massive bezel (or it's a massive device, not sure which )
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As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.

Pvt WhoOkid said:
As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.
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Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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Azurael said:
Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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People shouldn't tell you what to do, they can only make a suggestion. It's about what you want from your phone. If you want software optimized with hardware, get most recent updates and roll the smoothest devices on market, go with nexus line. My brother has LG g2 and with that beast of cpu and gpu, it's much slower then my nexus 4 (on both aosp rooms and lg ones). I would never buy g2 just because of that. Also Samsung devices, bloat bloat bloat, and sluggishness. I would buy n5 in no time because I want speed and fast updates, and a camera to take quick and decent pictures. Yeah battery is a little bit weak but, there are kernels for that
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on the fence with Nexus 5

I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!

I also wanted to wait for the bed Nexus 6, and it was a pain with my HTC one s. As soon as I heard the rumors I ran and got the Nexus 5 and it's awesome, don't regret it a bit.
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brunobliss said:
I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
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I just bought a 7 month old Nexus 5. For 5 reasons...
I'm upgrading from a HTC Desire (Bravo)
I've got a Nexus 7 with CM on and I love it
My friend has a N5 with stock ROM on and loves his phone
I'm heavy handed with my phones and want performance for price
I like the all black look Slimkat will offer with the bezel
On the above, I almost waited until the G3 came out, but I am very excited to receive my N5 tomorrow
Also, my desire has CM installed too.

No offense, but stop d*icking around with your legacy GN—please read my relevant post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48553703&postcount=1.

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No offense, but stop d*icking around with your legacy GN—please read my relevant post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48553703&postcount=1.
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Ur comparing a new flagship with a 5year -flagship- in the rate technology is going this is the least u can get
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I'll take that as an offense especially given the way you express your feelings.
Also, no offense but If you didn't read what I wrote, don't bother replying
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brunobliss said:
I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
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sorry, but if you're waiting around for the latest and greatest, you'll never be able to buy anything... the "next" device will always be better than the current one.

Get the Oneplus One when (or if) it becomes available for general sale. I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
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Get the Oneplus One when (or if) it becomes available for general sale. I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
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How is this any different from any other phone on the planet? The nexus series gets updates a million times faster than other phones. The S3 I had before didn't get updated to 4.3 until just this past winter or so. Also, waiting for the oneplus phone might be longer than waiting for the nexus 6/ silver whatever Google has planned.
As for the G3, I wouldn't hold my breath on updates with that, especially if you're on Tmo. The Tmo version of the G2 still isn't easily rooted on kitkat.
OP, going from the original Galaxy Nexus to the N5 is going to be a major update, for me going from S3 to N5 was a noticeable upgrade. IMO the N5 is currently to best phone available, at least for somebody who likes rooting and custom roms. If you just want the latest and greatest go with s5 or g3.

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How is this any different from any other phone on the planet? The nexus series gets updates a million times faster than other phones. The S3 I had before didn't get updated to 4.3 until just this past winter or so. Also, waiting for the oneplus phone might be longer than waiting for the nexus 6/ silver whatever Google has planned.
As for the G3, I wouldn't hold my breath on updates with that, especially if you're on Tmo. The Tmo version of the G2 still isn't easily rooted on kitkat.
OP, going from the original Galaxy Nexus to the N5 is going to be a major update, for me going from S3 to N5 was a noticeable upgrade. IMO the N5 is currently to best phone available, at least for somebody who likes rooting and custom roms. If you just want the latest and greatest go with s5 or g3.
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I know the N5 gets the fastest updates, just saying this last one took a while and fixed almost nothing. Rumors that Nexus line is done and we have no idea when/if Silver is coming out and what the cost details will be. Oneplus one is taking forever to come out but the specs are great, price is right and CM should also have a fast update schedule.

I'll sell you my N5 with a flip wake case and spigen shell case for cheap. I love the nexus 5 but I have a nexus 4 back up phone and think I might get the moto x on sale today..

Any "significantly" better phones to come out, will have a significantly higher price.
Mostly I think these devices have sort of peaked. I think advances will be sluggish, and as I said...any huge improvement will come with a huge price.
So....buy what suits your needs and price range now. The N5 will hold its own for real world use for some time.

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I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
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You can't be serious.
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The last update was a POINT release, not a feature release. It addressed some bugs that some people had, and not much more. That's what it was supposed to do. It didn't come out when you wanted it? Tough. Use something else, then talk to me about updates, available roms, support, etc.... you'll come running back. <the grass is always greener on the other side syndrome>
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KJ said:
Any "significantly" better phones to come out, will have a significantly higher price.
Mostly I think these devices have sort of peaked. I think advances will be sluggish, and as I said...any huge improvement will come with a huge price.
So....buy what suits your needs and price range now. The N5 will hold its own for real world use for some time.
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I agree. If the next gen phone was 8 cores/4gb ram/64bit and affordable, then yeah, wait. But that won't happen. As said, the N5 will be a force to reckon with for some time. It still has near-top specs and is $349. Nothing can touch it. With 4.4.3 and running ART, I would speedtest my phone against any stock phone confidently in real world examples. You are splitting hairs these days between phones until the TRUE next gen phone comes out. And even then, it will come with a big price.

I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.

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I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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The nexus 5 may have 99 problems, but the camera ain't one
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andino said:
I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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I really don't have the complaint with the camera, It works pretty descently. I have to say my biggest complaint after having the phone since it was released is how it switches from 3G to 4G. I am not sure if this is a network thing or not. But once the phone descides a 4G signal is to low, it switches to 3G, but doesnt switch back to 4G when the signal gets better. Happen all the time in my office building.. I am constantly putting it into airplane mode, then back out of airplane mode. Then it switches right back to 4G.

Apparently, the Nexus 6 has been halted and instead, they are working on "Android Silver". Maybe they are going to turn the Nexus 6 into something that will go head to head with HTC's and Samsungs heavyweights (HTC One M9 and Galaxy S6).
Some of the specs I read(reportedly) about the Nexus 6 were stunning. Hopefully it's still in production for a fall 2014 release. But I wont be surprised if it's delayed because of their interest for Android Silver

I hope this year's Google io will have some news regarding nexus 6. If not, I'll probably go ahead and acquire nexus 5
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The nexus 5 may have 99 problems, but the camera ain't one
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That's pretty subjective. Its decent but its not great.
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I really don't have the complaint with the camera, It works pretty descently. I have to say my biggest complaint after having the phone since it was released is how it switches from 3G to 4G. I am not sure if this is a network thing or not. But once the phone descides a 4G signal is to low, it switches to 3G, but doesnt switch back to 4G when the signal gets better. Happen all the time in my office building.. I am constantly putting it into airplane mode, then back out of airplane mode. Then it switches right back to 4G.
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Yeah I have the same thing with signal with mine. What network are you using. I'm on Tmo and it tends to do this pretty often with my Z1 as well.

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That's pretty subjective. Its decent but its not great.
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Actually it isn't. The only subjective part about it is that there are people who can't get a good shot even if you hand them a DSLR. IMO, nexus 5's camera is among top 5 android phone cameras.
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Not sure if I should go with nexus or not

Iv had android since the vey first android up until 2 years ago I wnt with iPhone. My contract is up and I want to come back to android I miss widgets and flashing roms. So I've been looking between the nexus 6 and Galaxy 6 edge. Can you guys tell me why one or the other? I'm on Verizon if that matters and I know the edge isn't released yet but the specs look nice.

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You are asking in the Nexus forums, . I had the Samsung S2, Note 2, Note 3. I decided a change was in order and got the Nexus 6. LOVING IT!! I don't ever see myself going back to Samsung and touchwiz (as gorgeous the edge is). I can't stress enough the vanilla experience of Android and how fluid the N6 is. The lack of bloat, ease of root, flashing, etc...Nexus all the way.
I will say it looks like Samsung really stepped up their game with the S6 series, now if these were Google versions, that would be a tougher choice for me, but I still love the 5.96 screen.

Yes I've never been a fan when my wife had her Galaxy 2 but the new 6 edge looks nice and the specs are nice. I Asked in the nexus forum for input from people who have switched from Samsung and would have opinions of both.

Get a nexus I've seen a bunch of reviews that say the edge isn't worth the extra 100 dollar price tag and that its gimmicky most reviews say get a reg s6 I went nexus from the s4 cuz I'm tired of att locking bootloaders took me all of 10 mins to get cm12 running on this thing and to remove the 6 att spamware items

For me, it's all about the bootloaders. N6

erawtik said:
Iv had android since the vey first android up until 2 years ago I wnt with iPhone. My contract is up and I want to come back to android I miss widgets and flashing roms. So I've been looking between the nexus 6 and Galaxy 6 edge. Can you guys tell me why one or the other? I'm on Verizon if that matters and I know the edge isn't released yet but the specs look nice.
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If you love to flash get a nexus because I'm pretty sure Samsung is still shipping with know and those Samsung devices are loosing a lot of devs because of it. For the note 4 sprint and T-Mobile are the only carrier that's still kinda surviving in the development options while at&t and Verizon are struggling last I checked unless Verizon makes a development version.
Nexus 6 will hold it's ground this device is great, I was waiting for the LG G Flex 2 but with all the negative reviews and rumors I jumped on my first nexus device and had got a great deal for a brand new sprint sealed variant and have no regret plus I still have my upgrade so when the new nexus comes out I'm jumping on it lol.

I've had the Galaxy Nexus (VZW) then after 2 years upgraded to the S4 after seeing the huge dev outpour, turns out it was impossible to rom, so after I was eligible to upgrade with VZWs EDGE upgrade plan, I jumped back to the Nexus. My point is I have had 2 nexus phones and a samsung phone, Nexus hands down is the way to go.

Thanks guys that is what I was figuring, you guys just helped seal the deal now the end of month can't come any sooner

Nexus

I appreciated TouchWiz value-adds on my Galaxy S III and like how they've integrated with Lollipop on my spouse's Galaxy S5 (which is very responsive, btw).
A friend of the family is a Samsung product specialist for a local Verizon reseller and has been nothing but frustrated with his Note 4 (which was on my short list of possible phones . . . based solely on specifications and online reviews); I saw up-close that it was having problems that any phone can have + more. It has wonderful features, but is vexing him weekly with weird drops in signal and hangs/reboots.
All my prior Android devices were Sense and Touchwiz-enhanced. The Nexus 6 experience is like flying with a very solid custom ROM that has just what I need, in comparison. Sure, I might want to root for tethering or such some day, but Android OS 5.1 is meeting all my needs, thus far. And, I *can* unlock, root, etc. at will, too - lost some of those abilities with the Galaxy S III after an OS upgrade. At my pace, not the carrier's.
Nexus 6 is a great size for me, I don't ever want to go smaller if that can be avoided. It has a growth path based on easy ability to apply future stock or custom ROMs, and its hardware has been satisfying to use.
I'm sure the Edge will be a terrific phone, but there will be differences and you should probably consider what's most important to you, feature-wise.
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I miss ... flashing roms
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You answered your question right there. The easiest to root, direct updates from Google, NO TOUCHWIZ.
I had a S2, N4 and now the N6 and I can not see myself ever going back to a non-Nexus. The phones are smooth as can be. Just think about it, Lollipop was basically designed to showcase the abilities of the N6, here come the flames. Simply put, if you want 100% flexibility of customization and you like the idea of a fast device built for the OS that it runs, you have to go Nexus.

KI came from the m8 and I was mainly worried about the battery with the N6 but its fine. From the early reports I've seen on the s6 battery life I would not get it. Very happy with the Nexus so far. Had mine unlocked, rooted, and running builds a couple hours after it arrived.

erawtik said:
Iv had android since the vey first android up until 2 years ago I wnt with iPhone. My contract is up and I want to come back to android I miss widgets and flashing roms. So I've been looking between the nexus 6 and Galaxy 6 edge. Can you guys tell me why one or the other? I'm on Verizon if that matters and I know the edge isn't released yet but the specs look nice.
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I bought a Note 4, and then a few months later sold it for a Nexus 6. I loved the Note 4, but everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING was limited. It's all heavily locked down and restricted. The Nexus 6 is pure, and totally open. You can do anything you want. There are no restrictions, and there is absolutely nothing holding you back. The best part: Carrier Freedom. You don't have to stick to anyone. You can do whatever you like, whenever you like, no Knox, no history, no questions. I had a Samsung N2, N3 and N4, and loved them all, but the Nexus 6 has changed my perspective of freedom. If something breaks, there is a fix. If you want a new feature, developers hear you and fix it. If you want to design your own ROM, there's a guide for that. If you want pure updates straight from Google and no bloatware, it's there with no strings attached. Want a remarkably easy toolkit to do everything you could ever desire on your device? Done! Twice over even! The Nexus 6 is the only flagship ANDROID device because it is exactly that, ANDROID. I would highly recommend it to you and anyone else.

Here's a chart I saw that might help.

You mention liking to flash ROMs, so I'd go with Nexus 6. Seems like with Samsung using Exynos SOC in the S6 and the touchwiz framework mucking things up you'll never get as good performance on a custom AOSP based rom with things like camera, bluetooth and Wifi since Samsung , in the past at least, has not been forthcoming with drivers.

I'd just wait for the upcoming Nexus to be released. It's looking like it will be based on the upcoming LG G4. In my opinion, why buy a phone that will soon be last year's news? Not taking anything away from the Nexus 6, I love it. It's the best phone I've ever owned. The Nexus 6 is not an old phone, but we both know that something better is right around the corner.

erawtik said:
Iv had android since the vey first android up until 2 years ago I wnt with iPhone. My contract is up and I want to come back to android I miss widgets and flashing roms. So I've been looking between the nexus 6 and Galaxy 6 edge. Can you guys tell me why one or the other? I'm on Verizon if that matters and I know the edge isn't released yet but the specs look nice.
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I was a blackberry person for a long time when smartphones first came out. I later bought a cheap metro android. Since then i've had a Samsung Galaxy S3, an iPhone 5, LG G2, and now i have a nexus 6. I went from the S3 because i wanted to try something different. I got bored with different. The iphone isn't customizable at all. So i went back to droid and the G2 is a beast but the nexus 6 is a bigger beast. Go with the nexus. It may not have all the cool features that an S6 has but you probably wont use all those features anyways. Nexus 6 is stock with the essentials plus its for a more technologically savvy person that understands specs and performance. Im not hating on the S6 i know it has great specs too but its a phone everyone will have.

don't see all the fuss……
I jumped on t-mo from a note 4 to N6. I've been using sammy products sine 2011, including all the note series, with a g3 and opo for good measure.
The samsung devices were easy to root, coming unlocked from t-mobile. The note 4 has considerable development on a t-mo sub forum. I flashed several times a week and edited build. prop and mixer. path files to further customize my experience.
Oh, and touchwiz was not the monster it's made out to be. I use apex launcher, which on the note 4 is a similar experience to the N6.
I will say samsung is rightly blamed for bloat and some wicked lags, something I have yet to see on shamoo.
I'll say I'm enjoying my nexus, but all this endless chatter about the "pure android" is nonsense from my perspective.
So, if someone asks if the note 4 or Nexus 6 would be my choice, I'd go with the N6, but maybe because I haven't had much time on it so far. Then again, it's a matter of unlocked bootloader with the right carrier. (T-Mobile)
Don't think I'm going to regret my choice.

I have the LG G3 and I can say this is the best phone I have ever had! Believe it or not even better after running Lollipop