Iv had android since the vey first android up until 2 years ago I wnt with iPhone. My contract is up and I want to come back to android I miss widgets and flashing roms. So I've been looking between the nexus 6 and Galaxy 6 edge. Can you guys tell me why one or the other? I'm on Verizon if that matters and I know the edge isn't released yet but the specs look nice.
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You are asking in the Nexus forums, . I had the Samsung S2, Note 2, Note 3. I decided a change was in order and got the Nexus 6. LOVING IT!! I don't ever see myself going back to Samsung and touchwiz (as gorgeous the edge is). I can't stress enough the vanilla experience of Android and how fluid the N6 is. The lack of bloat, ease of root, flashing, etc...Nexus all the way.
I will say it looks like Samsung really stepped up their game with the S6 series, now if these were Google versions, that would be a tougher choice for me, but I still love the 5.96 screen.
Yes I've never been a fan when my wife had her Galaxy 2 but the new 6 edge looks nice and the specs are nice. I Asked in the nexus forum for input from people who have switched from Samsung and would have opinions of both.
Get a nexus I've seen a bunch of reviews that say the edge isn't worth the extra 100 dollar price tag and that its gimmicky most reviews say get a reg s6 I went nexus from the s4 cuz I'm tired of att locking bootloaders took me all of 10 mins to get cm12 running on this thing and to remove the 6 att spamware items
For me, it's all about the bootloaders. N6
erawtik said:
Iv had android since the vey first android up until 2 years ago I wnt with iPhone. My contract is up and I want to come back to android I miss widgets and flashing roms. So I've been looking between the nexus 6 and Galaxy 6 edge. Can you guys tell me why one or the other? I'm on Verizon if that matters and I know the edge isn't released yet but the specs look nice.
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If you love to flash get a nexus because I'm pretty sure Samsung is still shipping with know and those Samsung devices are loosing a lot of devs because of it. For the note 4 sprint and T-Mobile are the only carrier that's still kinda surviving in the development options while at&t and Verizon are struggling last I checked unless Verizon makes a development version.
Nexus 6 will hold it's ground this device is great, I was waiting for the LG G Flex 2 but with all the negative reviews and rumors I jumped on my first nexus device and had got a great deal for a brand new sprint sealed variant and have no regret plus I still have my upgrade so when the new nexus comes out I'm jumping on it lol.
I've had the Galaxy Nexus (VZW) then after 2 years upgraded to the S4 after seeing the huge dev outpour, turns out it was impossible to rom, so after I was eligible to upgrade with VZWs EDGE upgrade plan, I jumped back to the Nexus. My point is I have had 2 nexus phones and a samsung phone, Nexus hands down is the way to go.
Thanks guys that is what I was figuring, you guys just helped seal the deal now the end of month can't come any sooner
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I appreciated TouchWiz value-adds on my Galaxy S III and like how they've integrated with Lollipop on my spouse's Galaxy S5 (which is very responsive, btw).
A friend of the family is a Samsung product specialist for a local Verizon reseller and has been nothing but frustrated with his Note 4 (which was on my short list of possible phones . . . based solely on specifications and online reviews); I saw up-close that it was having problems that any phone can have + more. It has wonderful features, but is vexing him weekly with weird drops in signal and hangs/reboots.
All my prior Android devices were Sense and Touchwiz-enhanced. The Nexus 6 experience is like flying with a very solid custom ROM that has just what I need, in comparison. Sure, I might want to root for tethering or such some day, but Android OS 5.1 is meeting all my needs, thus far. And, I *can* unlock, root, etc. at will, too - lost some of those abilities with the Galaxy S III after an OS upgrade. At my pace, not the carrier's.
Nexus 6 is a great size for me, I don't ever want to go smaller if that can be avoided. It has a growth path based on easy ability to apply future stock or custom ROMs, and its hardware has been satisfying to use.
I'm sure the Edge will be a terrific phone, but there will be differences and you should probably consider what's most important to you, feature-wise.
- ooofest
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I miss ... flashing roms
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You answered your question right there. The easiest to root, direct updates from Google, NO TOUCHWIZ.
I had a S2, N4 and now the N6 and I can not see myself ever going back to a non-Nexus. The phones are smooth as can be. Just think about it, Lollipop was basically designed to showcase the abilities of the N6, here come the flames. Simply put, if you want 100% flexibility of customization and you like the idea of a fast device built for the OS that it runs, you have to go Nexus.
KI came from the m8 and I was mainly worried about the battery with the N6 but its fine. From the early reports I've seen on the s6 battery life I would not get it. Very happy with the Nexus so far. Had mine unlocked, rooted, and running builds a couple hours after it arrived.
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Iv had android since the vey first android up until 2 years ago I wnt with iPhone. My contract is up and I want to come back to android I miss widgets and flashing roms. So I've been looking between the nexus 6 and Galaxy 6 edge. Can you guys tell me why one or the other? I'm on Verizon if that matters and I know the edge isn't released yet but the specs look nice.
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I bought a Note 4, and then a few months later sold it for a Nexus 6. I loved the Note 4, but everything, and I do mean EVERYTHING was limited. It's all heavily locked down and restricted. The Nexus 6 is pure, and totally open. You can do anything you want. There are no restrictions, and there is absolutely nothing holding you back. The best part: Carrier Freedom. You don't have to stick to anyone. You can do whatever you like, whenever you like, no Knox, no history, no questions. I had a Samsung N2, N3 and N4, and loved them all, but the Nexus 6 has changed my perspective of freedom. If something breaks, there is a fix. If you want a new feature, developers hear you and fix it. If you want to design your own ROM, there's a guide for that. If you want pure updates straight from Google and no bloatware, it's there with no strings attached. Want a remarkably easy toolkit to do everything you could ever desire on your device? Done! Twice over even! The Nexus 6 is the only flagship ANDROID device because it is exactly that, ANDROID. I would highly recommend it to you and anyone else.
Here's a chart I saw that might help.
You mention liking to flash ROMs, so I'd go with Nexus 6. Seems like with Samsung using Exynos SOC in the S6 and the touchwiz framework mucking things up you'll never get as good performance on a custom AOSP based rom with things like camera, bluetooth and Wifi since Samsung , in the past at least, has not been forthcoming with drivers.
I'd just wait for the upcoming Nexus to be released. It's looking like it will be based on the upcoming LG G4. In my opinion, why buy a phone that will soon be last year's news? Not taking anything away from the Nexus 6, I love it. It's the best phone I've ever owned. The Nexus 6 is not an old phone, but we both know that something better is right around the corner.
erawtik said:
Iv had android since the vey first android up until 2 years ago I wnt with iPhone. My contract is up and I want to come back to android I miss widgets and flashing roms. So I've been looking between the nexus 6 and Galaxy 6 edge. Can you guys tell me why one or the other? I'm on Verizon if that matters and I know the edge isn't released yet but the specs look nice.
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I was a blackberry person for a long time when smartphones first came out. I later bought a cheap metro android. Since then i've had a Samsung Galaxy S3, an iPhone 5, LG G2, and now i have a nexus 6. I went from the S3 because i wanted to try something different. I got bored with different. The iphone isn't customizable at all. So i went back to droid and the G2 is a beast but the nexus 6 is a bigger beast. Go with the nexus. It may not have all the cool features that an S6 has but you probably wont use all those features anyways. Nexus 6 is stock with the essentials plus its for a more technologically savvy person that understands specs and performance. Im not hating on the S6 i know it has great specs too but its a phone everyone will have.
don't see all the fuss……
I jumped on t-mo from a note 4 to N6. I've been using sammy products sine 2011, including all the note series, with a g3 and opo for good measure.
The samsung devices were easy to root, coming unlocked from t-mobile. The note 4 has considerable development on a t-mo sub forum. I flashed several times a week and edited build. prop and mixer. path files to further customize my experience.
Oh, and touchwiz was not the monster it's made out to be. I use apex launcher, which on the note 4 is a similar experience to the N6.
I will say samsung is rightly blamed for bloat and some wicked lags, something I have yet to see on shamoo.
I'll say I'm enjoying my nexus, but all this endless chatter about the "pure android" is nonsense from my perspective.
So, if someone asks if the note 4 or Nexus 6 would be my choice, I'd go with the N6, but maybe because I haven't had much time on it so far. Then again, it's a matter of unlocked bootloader with the right carrier. (T-Mobile)
Don't think I'm going to regret my choice.
I have the LG G3 and I can say this is the best phone I have ever had! Believe it or not even better after running Lollipop
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Hello Dear Nexus 4 owners and friends,
Holiday greetings. I am finding it so difficult to stay satisfied with my Nexus 4. With all the great deals this past weekend and then the Moto X (Android Central Phone Of The Year) for only $350 Wednesday and next Monday I just am having identity issues with my current phone. I mean it "feels" fast enough, I get GREAT battery life, I've got KitKat, and mods.... I just want more. My ideal phone is the LG G2 but thanks to good ole T-Mobile's un-carrier foolishness I can't get one for free with a contract or upgrade anymore. The Moto X seems nice but it's got the same size screen and the camera appears so so.... I don't want so so... I've already got that... I want bad a$$ blow your mind fast with awesome camera and a solid battery life to boot.... Then at the end of the day I think overall My Nexus 4 has been good to me today. It easily gets 14 - 15 hours battery life with 3+ hours screen on time... Plays games fast... I think if it only had a slightly better screen and camera I would be happy... Anyone else going through this during this festive shopping season?
Thanks folks!
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Well, you have listed all the best things about nexus 4 there and to add, active development support from this community. If you're still unhappy about it then buy a new phone. LG G2 seems to be a good choice if battery life and camera is what you're after. Nexus 5 is good too though I'm not sure about its battery life.
If your not satisfied with ur nexus 4 then go upgrade
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Well, you have listed all the best things about nexus 4 there and to add, active development support from this community. If you're still unhappy about it then buy a new phone. LG G2 seems to be a good choice if battery life and camera is what you're after. Nexus 5 is good too though I'm not sure about its battery life.
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My brother owns a n5 and battery life is much better than mine. I undervolt, underclock, etc and he just... owns a stock n5
GF has the LG G2 and its a nice phone. wish development was more active for it. soooo wanna put CM or whatever on it. im not a big fan of the UI, but she loves it. Mind you shes an ex-craPhone user. Imo its a good phone on looks, battery, and features. i love my N4(miss my Gnex as well). its a great phone and lovethe development going for it. yea camera is eh, but i dont take that much pics. enjoy the nexusness about it. dislike the rear glass back(gf dropped it out of my hands while taking my car keys. thank god for my slip on case). only thing i want is a bigger SD. the G2 come with a 32gb SD from tmobile and the N4's 16gb makes me cry knowing that i have 2gb of space left. If you like the stock feel of android, pick between the Moto X or the N5. If you want a new phone with something different you got the G2. have you checked out sony's new baby yet? step-padre has one and its a nice phone.
Got a nexus 5, it doesn't feel as premium as the 4 does with its curved glass and solid feel.
Battery wise, I only use 2g with data off and WiFi only, my nexus 4 edges it.
You're having issues with yourself, not with the phone. Get a psychiatrist.
Well I just learned that with the t-mobiles uncarrier plan and with the jump thing every 6 months when you trade your phone in they squash whatever you owe on your phone and let you upgrade to the next one without a penalty.
So I'm not sure I'd exactly call it foolishness. I think the LG G2 is 0 down right now and 17 a month. . . you can either keep it longer or trade it in at 6 months...
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i think that anything that is not nexus can't be considered an ANDROID phone, so I'll stay with n4 because the n5 doesn't offer anithing that can justify the deal.
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PJcastaldo said:
Well I just learned that with the t-mobiles uncarrier plan and with the jump thing every 6 months when you trade your phone in they squash whatever you owe on your phone and let you upgrade to the next one without a penalty.
So I'm not sure I'd exactly call it foolishness. I think the LG G2 is 0 down right now and 17 a month. . . you can either keep it longer or trade it in at 6 months...
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I think 17 is AT&T G2?
"Jump" is a way to generate more revenue out of customers...
Current price of T-mobile LG G2 is 24 a month(never seen it drop to 17, the most is 50 off- 0 down) 10+24+taxes add up to about 37 a month...
You would be constantly paying more after 6 months ($10 jump fee plus the monthly payment on the new phone or existing phone.)
I bought a like new LG G2 for $450 total 2 months after manufacturing date.
I think it's a good deal...
Honestly I really love the Nexus 4. If I had T-Mobile coverage at home, I would not have to upgrade. However Nexus 4 does not Wifi-calling which I realize I really need when I'm at home. The camera and faster CPU are added benefits. However Nexus 4 seriously is fast enough to me and the LTE is nice when I go out. I was planning to switch to AT&T for a free phone and better signal but their 25% price increase forced me to drop the idea.
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You're having issues with yourself, not with the phone. Get a psychiatrist.
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The typical insecure response expected from a noob. Grow up kiddo.
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You're having issues with yourself, not with the phone. Get a psychiatrist.
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Got to agree here, its just a phone for God's sake. You want a faster better phone? Then what? A better faster phone? Then another? Save some money and take up meditation or something before its too late!
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Well for me other factors to consider is that I'm broke.... Lol. To get a new phone outright I would probably have to sell my Nexus 4 and 2012 Nexus 7 tablet. I'm already paying $20 a month on my wife's Galaxy S4. So I don't wanna up my cell phone bill yet another 15-20 dollars a month for my phone. I guess I just get bored easily. Lol. Had the HD2, Then Galax S2, now my Nexus 4...i just get bored and wanna check out new stuff. At one point I said "The Nexus 4 is gonna be my last phone"..... Guess not.. I will probably figure out something after the new year. I can make more changes with my TMO plan in January. I don't wanna just run out and buy a Moto X because it's the cheapest... Don't really wanna settle.
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Im drooling over an HTC One.. but i can resist and hold on to my S3 and N4
Yeam it makes me feel good about Nexus 4 when I see Nexus 5 with his problem...
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Yeam it makes me feel good about Nexus 4 when I see Nexus 5 with his problem...
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Look it makes a G
how convenient
I'm just gonna sit here with nexus 4 and await the new camera apis to come out. Really don't think anything out right now is worth buying to upgrade from the n4.
I don't mean nothing I better but nothing is going to be worth the money to outright buy vs the slight gains I might get
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Feel good about Nexus 4 again? Still loving my N4! 4 Reasons below!
1) NEXUS 5 PORT 4.4 KRT16S odexed 26/11/2013 Fully merged with MAKO binaries
2) Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik libraries from MOTOX 4.4
3) 36dpi nav bar
4) KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r197
The Voice activated Google Now! Alone makes it worth its wait in gold for me when driving and need to send email or SMS! The N4 is still a great phone! Yeah would love the N5! But not got the funds or the inclination to replace a device that has not once shown, its not up to the task it is set! My Wife has the Galaxy Nexus! Another great phone that is still performing for what she needs and its her i will be upgrading first to the N5. Think too many people get side lined by the speed of how quickly our phones are surpassed with newer and shiny models! Its like the camera on phones! What do people expect? Your not going to take your wedding photos using your phone! My phone is and always will be a tool! Not a fashion accessory otherwise i would have bought into the iOS crowd (Mac user so not Anti-Apple). The N4 is still performing and with the great Dev's on XDA don't really see me getting bored anytime soon!
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I think 17 is AT&T G2?
"Jump" is a way to generate more revenue out of customers...
Current price of T-mobile LG G2 is 24 a month(never seen it drop to 17, the most is 50 off- 0 down) 10+24+taxes add up to about 37 a month...
You would be constantly paying more after 6 months ($10 jump fee plus the monthly payment on the new phone or existing phone.)
I bought a like new LG G2 for $450 total 2 months after manufacturing date.
I think it's a good deal...
Honestly I really love the Nexus 4. If I had T-Mobile coverage at home, I would not have to upgrade. However Nexus 4 does not Wifi-calling which I realize I really need when I'm at home. The camera and faster CPU are added benefits. However Nexus 4 seriously is fast enough to me and the LTE is nice when I go out. I was planning to switch to AT&T for a free phone and better signal but their 25% price increase forced me to drop the idea.
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Oh I didn't realize that that wasn't the price. I called yesterday about looking at an upgrade and was offered 0 down and 17 a month on a GTO and on a nexus 5. Maybe those were just holiday deals or something. Also I don't ever talk to regular customer service I always go straight to the I want to close my account department.
To me its not a bad deal though that means every 6 months at that price I'm spending about 120$ .. and get a new device.
However all of that said in understood I'm not looking to go from my Nexus 4 for a while. I'm running a stock kitLat rooted with faux kernel and love it.
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It's a freaking phone, it's not supposed to replace your wife. Just do something else when you're bored with it. But it's your money, if you can afford another phone, go for it.
I have been down this path before, getting a new phone like every month. But with the unlimited customization I can do with the Nexus I couldn't get bored with it. I love the speed of KitKat with ART, I don't even feel the need to get a Nexus 5 yet. I can't see myself dealing with TouchWiz, Sense or any other third party bloated UIs again. If I have the urge to, I can install skins or theme it, just take a look at what people can do in this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1990251
The fun with Nexus devices is the tinkering and hacking you can do with it, without losing a large chunk of your wallet. If you just want the latest, greatest and fastest, you will be chasing an endless target.
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Feel good about Nexus 4 again? Still loving my N4! 4 Reasons below!
1) NEXUS 5 PORT 4.4 KRT16S odexed 26/11/2013 Fully merged with MAKO binaries
2) Qualcomm-optimized Dalvik libraries from MOTOX 4.4
3) 36dpi nav bar
4) KERNEL][GPL][N4] franco.Kernel - r197
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My reasons:
-Fully working sweep2wake and sleep with NEO kernel, LG G2's knock knock feature got nothing on this.
-Faux color and sound kernel features
-PSX rom (I'm normally not convinced by roms that claim to be fast, but this is clearly fast translated to real experience, not just benchmarks. Just hope it'll continue to be supported in some form at xda.)
-The vast amount of roms and their features.
-And the number one reason: MultiRom
I'm feeling sad. Because I know my mako will soon be spreading its wings and going to a new home. My contract is up and I promised a friend who had an S4 nicked only a couple of weeks after getting it that she could have my N4 when my contract is up for renewal (I wouldn't really want anybody to be stuck with a Desire running stock 2.2...) But my real question and purpose for posting here is what do I get to replace it? I know there's an obvious answer and the Nexus 5 is probably what I'll end up with, but I thought I'd throw this out there for the advice of you lovely netizens
I've played with an N5 in the O2 shop and it really doesn't feel like much of an upgrade to the 4. I'm not particularly fond of the very generic industrial design or the in-hand feel. I'm sure given a bit of tinkering and a custom ROM it could be quite nice, but with the stock ROM on the N5 (obviously) and the modded colour profile on the N4, I actually prefer the LCD on the mako! The camera is much better on the 5, not that I use it much, and I suppose the battery life ought to be a bit better. It really didn't feel any faster but I'm sure SlimKat + over clock vs stock is not a fair comparison. It just seems silly to be stuck with a phone for 2 years which has already been made obsolete (in my mind) by this years' MWC launches and which doesn't really represent a big upgrade from the phone I have now.
So what about the S5? I've pretty much discounted it due to the fact that it's a Samsung, which means AOSP ROM support will be poor, it will suffer from SOD and probably also fry its eMMC after a few months Although I'm sure there are people willing to endure that for a removable battery and a microSD slot, I'm not one of them. Funnily enough, several of my friends who own/owned S3s have said they'll not buy another Sammy...
The Z2? Well, I guess it's likely to have good AOSP support so long as I can get my mitts on an unbranded one (no prob, I'll just renew through Carphone Warehouse) but it's also GIGANTIC and I'm not sure whether it uses the easily broken dragon trail glass and that daft easily scratched plastic outer layer like the original Z.
I presume there will be a new HTC One (two?) very soon, which has a chance of being a more reasonable size and probably better build quality than the competitors but I don't know what the situation with bootloader locking is like on current HTC Qualcomm devices? (Assuming it will be Qualcomm) After my One X debacle, I pretty much told myself I wouldn't buy another HTC but I have had many over the years which have been great so it seems mean not to forgive them for that one terrible device.
I presume LG won't be in on this round of upgrades (aside from phabletty ones) but I had considered the G2 due to its larger battery but otherwise similar hardware to the N5?
Yeah, I guess I'll just get an N5.
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You answered your own question by the end. BTW you should root your desire and flash KitKat on it.
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I would look at the lg g flex to ik its huge but the screen is pretty alsome
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Got the same problem want to replace my nexus 4 but no idea with what, also tried Nexus 5 but don't feel like update maybe the LG g2 because of bigger screen, but still don't feels like big upgrade...
LG flex is nice but ways to expensive
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If you cant wait (until nexus 6 is released), i would suggest new htc one or lg g2. Lg g2 has a great screen size, its sharp, but too saturated cartoonish colors, if you like that. Awesome battery, 5,6 hours of screen on time, great camera. it has a great devs support but its not working as smooth as nexus 5. So in order: nexus 6, new htc one, lg g2 (or nexus 5 if you really like aosp and smoothness).
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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I would rather go to lg g2 rather than n5..
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G2 is a legit contender
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Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
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Lg g2. A friend of mine has it. It gets up to 2 days of battery (a combined usage of normal with heavy)
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I heard so as well.
Hardware and Price definitly make it a great Phone.
After a quick personal test I have to say coming from a Stock/Custom Rom the UI is really ugly, but there are custom Roms.
OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?
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OFF: Just saw that the 4 years old iPhone 4 got the latest version of iOS and it runs awesome considering the specs of the phone (tested my self). I wander if Google "got it"?
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So? My equally-4-year-old HTC Vision runs KitKat. I mean, sure, Apple officially released their latest OS for the iPhone 4 (and hopefully the performance will be acceptable this time) but I've never run a shipping ROM on any device I've owned since my original iPhone, anyway, so the crappy long term support of Android device manufacturers not a big deal for me. Also, there seems to be a lot of pro-Apple sentiment for long-term device support but I don't think that's a gesture of kindness or 'different' business behaviour to other manufacturers. Really, they have to keep support, since they keep crummy old devices on the market a lot longer than other manufacturers. I know a few people who still have remaining months on two year contracts with iPhone 4s, but I'm fairly certain that's not going to be the case with any Android handset which was launched around the same time.
Incidentally, I think I've settled on the G2. Given that the cost to me will be the same with an N5 or a G2, it seems silly not to go for the bigger battery, (much) contrastier screen and better camera since I'll run CM/AOSP either way. It means dealing with nasty Samsung-like glossy plastic, but given that it's already good, I'm thinking the battery life ought to be insane once all the LG OEM crap is gone
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Tomorrow I'm selling my beloved nexus 4 and getting the nexus 5. As much as I'm happy because I'm getting the new nexus, I'm a little bit sad, of all phones I have had, n4 was my favourite. But I expect n5 to take its place I spent so many hours reading and posting in these threads, I'm feeling melancholic (I'm crazy, I know). Goodbye to you all, hope to see you in the n5 threads!
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I'm glad I'm not the only one who's feeling weirdly reminiscent about replacing my Mako... Usually I'm terribly excited to get my mitts on a new device, but this time I'm just left wondering how I'll cope if I don't like whatever I replace it with as much
I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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I think lg makes the best short term support phones.
They wont see life beyond 4.4.2. I wouldnt buy a lg without checking the activity in the xda forum. Because lg is very crappy updating the android, and if theres no support from the comunity, because of a locked bootloader, for example, then its all over.
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I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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I think (perhaps too optimistically) that all the current Qualcomm-based devices are so similar that even after LG give up, some form of CM/AOSP support is pretty much a given. Especially given the shared roots with the Nexus 5...
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That's what we're seing in the Optimus G forum. The development follows the lead of N4, but not at the same pace. My GF has one and simply love the lg UI and the miniapps. But the device is great and stuck in the 4.1.1
There's a lot of great devs there, like XboxfanJ, and many many others doing a great job porting things out, but it's a shame that LG is failing to provide a update to any other android version. Even 4.3 would be great in that device.
I had to root my GF Optimus G just to use fstrim, because it was becoming laggy as hell. And while google is doing a magnificent job puting the Gapps avaible in the playstore, she misses some nice features, like the notifications listener, or immersive mode, but at the same time, being with the device since november of 2013 (here in brazil mid class people just have to be one generation or two behind every single eletronic stuff, because they are expensive as hell) she doesn't want to void the warranty.
The really bad thing about LG is that they launch their flagships with old android versions, update short after the relase and then go with the excuse that the device has already seen a major upgrade.
OG came with 4.0 and then was updated to 4.1
LG Flex came with 4.2
G2 came with 4.2
And that's the way they do their business.
If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
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If I were you, I'd wait about a month longer. See if the new Google Edition phones start popping up. I quite like Samsung's hardware, but their support absolutely sucks. For me, SGS5 GPE would solve that issue.
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No, I literally will not buy Samsung hardware on principle. I've seen too many dead S2s, notes, S3s, etc. That is a company with zero concept of quality control, to keep releasing b0rked eMMC controllers, generation after generation. Plus, if you begin to read the CM device managers' posts on Exynos support, you see what a ****ty attitude they have for the development community, even if most current devices are Qualcomm based and a lot easier to work with. Plus I'm not and never have been enamoured with their hardware in general. Sadly, the G2 looks and feels like a Samsung, but I guess I'll have to live with that. Oh, and what good is a GPE unless you're buying your device outright? AFAIK a Nexus 5 is the only chance you have of getting a shipping 'stock' android device here on contract.
Edit: I reaslise I probably came across as a bit of an arse in this post. Sorry, Samsung make me angry. It might be worth waiting for the new HTC One but I'm fairly certain the camera will be rubbish and it still has a small screen with a massive bezel (or it's a massive device, not sure which )
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As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.
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As mentioned above. I would suggest you wait for N6 which is rumored to be the last of the nexus series. From the leaked rumor leaks I think it's worth the wait. Look it up.
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Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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Hmm, it's a nice theory. But you could easily end up waiting forever with that outlook. The G3 isn't even rumoured to come out for several months yet, else I'd be waiting for that. And the Nexus 6 (I doubt the name unless it's a phablet... It'll probably be a new Nexus 5) is sure to come even later, the Nexus launches haven't exactly been immediate availability gigs, have they? By the time that come out, people will tell me to wait for the Samsung GS6 and so on. Mobile phones are launched so close together that anything you buy will be 'obsolete' a month later. Frankly, I could gladly live with my Nexus 4 for another 2 years. The only reason I'm replacing it at all is to give it to somebody else. So with what is available now, it seems pretty clear to me that a G2 will do the job just fine.
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People shouldn't tell you what to do, they can only make a suggestion. It's about what you want from your phone. If you want software optimized with hardware, get most recent updates and roll the smoothest devices on market, go with nexus line. My brother has LG g2 and with that beast of cpu and gpu, it's much slower then my nexus 4 (on both aosp rooms and lg ones). I would never buy g2 just because of that. Also Samsung devices, bloat bloat bloat, and sluggishness. I would buy n5 in no time because I want speed and fast updates, and a camera to take quick and decent pictures. Yeah battery is a little bit weak but, there are kernels for that
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Please use this thread to discuss devices other than and any comparisons with other devices on or about the GS 5 in this thread and any other off-topic issues that are not needing a new thread.
Post with respect, this is a helpful community, hope we all learn from this stuff in here.
Anyone has both the M8 and S5? Or had the M8 and now the S5 _(or the other way around? Although the S5 just came out)? How do they compare? Please try to be as objective as possible Thanks!
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I have both on me to review for a while. The M8 is obviously heavier, a little taller but not quite as wide as the GS5. I prefer something compact to better use in one hand, like an iPhone, but either one isn't as bad as I thought to use with one hand (although still somewhat difficult). I'm really enjoying the GS5's design. After using the M8 for a week, it already feels a bit dated for some reason. I'm glad the GS5 doesn't use virtual navigation buttons, allowing more screen space. Those are basically my initial impressions between the two for now.
it's there any dedicated forum for galaxy gear fit? I just saw the forum of the first gen of the gear that's it
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I don't think this topic needs it's own thread so I'll post here. How fast does the S5 charge to full? I plugged mine in last night when i went to bed and it seemed like it was charging about 1% per minute or faster.
barondebxl said:
Anyone has both the M8 and S5? Or had the M8 and now the S5 _(or the other way around? Although the S5 just came out)? How do they compare? Please try to be as objective as possible Thanks!
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My gf has the M8 and I have the S5. Only a few days now but I like them both. We both had hung onto our original Rooted and ROMed Notes before these.
Some initial impressions:
S5 is lighter so maybe a bit easier to one hand, although after the Dell Streak and Note anything seems small and easy.
M8 feels more solid due to design/weight, but that is more a perception than function thing. The all plastic Note was fine so I don't expect an issue with the S5.
Screens are comparable, both very nice; different but one isn't distinctly better than the other in real life usage.
Speaker sound is obviously won by the M8, not even close. The S5 is ok, but the M8 is designed for sound and it shows.
Performance seems great for both, although I haven't had the M8 in my hand as much.
Reception (LTE) is the same in a side by side test on my table, just using the on screen indicator. Both are better than the Note.
I actually like the on screen keys on the M8 as they are the same as my tablets, I'm getting used to the S5 home button but I haven't had a physical home button in a long time (since the iPhone 3g- ...don't judge me!).
We both ditched the Stock UI for Nova and/or Apex Launcher immediately so I have no idea how Sense and Touchwiz compare in usage other than they felt both restrictive and simplistic off the bat.
Let me know if there is anything specific you want to know and I'll check it out; but after a few days around both I'd be happy using either device.
Drew
Here my review as I've had both devices in the past couples of days.
Design m8> s5
Both phones to me look great but the design on the m8 is sexy! When I saw the s5 all I've seen where white models, which to me made the phone look horrible cause of the added width made the screen look smaller than it actually is UNTIL I got my black s5 and loved it as soon as I traded my m8 in.
Camera s5> m8
Pics on the m8 ON THE PHONE look amazing but when crop you see the flaw in the 4mp shooter. S5 camera just clearly is the better point shoot camera if you want to use your pics past social media uploads. If not then M8 should do you fine.
One hand use s5> m8
As sexy as the m8 is the back is slippery and I felt very uncomfortable one hand using the phone and the fact that the m8 is narrow and taller reaching the top of the screen was a scary thing to do as I was running the phone with no case whatsoever. Case Will solve the slippery back but with the s5 I don't feel like I need a case as the back is nice to touch and being that the phone is lighter than the m8 makes me feel I have one hand control of the phone at all time.
Speakers m8> s5
Don't really need to go into this and one of the features I miss on the m8 as I do listen to a lot of music.
Screen draw
Both are beautiful
Features s5> m8
S5 more featured packed but the features in the m8 are no slouch
Wish the s5 had the double tap to wake the phone but since it has the finger print I can see why they didn't go with that feature. Overall while some think their gimmicky the features on the s5 are fun and very useful to use when need be.
Internal memory m8> s5
More internal storage for the same price as a 16gb s5 is always gonna be better for some. NOW the SD card slot is working great for me so my Internal memory can be just for apps but those that don't like SD then note the s5 32gb will be slightly more on contract and off contract than the m8.
Battery life s5 > m8
My s5 is doing great and I love the feature with the power saving option offering a extended mode for those needs when Your at 10% and won't be near a charger for period of time.
But the m8 battery life is just as good as the s5 with my units I had.
Custom Roms m8> s5
One of the big reason xda was started for and unless u have the t-mobile variant then root and maybe a stock tw rom is all your gonna get from the s5 att model. But the experience with the new tw is very nice and I'm not seeing lag as previous galaxy phones in the past
So basically it comes down to this
Features or custom roms?
Top build quality or water resistant plastic?
4mp or 16mp camera?
Boomsound or fingerprint?
I don't think you can go wrong with any of the two flagships. Custom roms are great but some don't function and leave features that sold you into the phone from the beginning. Samsung is becoming apple which is not a bad thing. I remember when HTC was doing the locked bl and fans went nuts then they slowly changed their ways of tactics. as a phone the s5 and the m8 IS that plus some. now I'm more than happy with my s5, you may need your root and that's it which I see s5 having at some point very soon. But if u need your custom kernels and aosp roms then don't even look at the s5. Hope this helps those deciding between the two....
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Still mad at ATT gutting the chipset for the stupid LTE, but such is life. Good to see a waterproof flaship, at long last. Korea's finally starting to catch up to Japan in physical features.
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Not sure if this is just on the ATT variant but I found this amusing...
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Coming from an Lg optimus G Pro..... got an M8 on 4/17 and started having issues with it resetting the home screens for no reason. Im sure it is probably just a rare bad unit but since it is my first HTC, I decided to return it and get an S5.
Really no reason to write several paragraphs on the comparisons as most of the comparisons done so far is what I have seen as well. To sum it up
*The HTC is elegant, cleaner interface, not as "gimmicky", looks and feels better made (although covering it in a case takes away all that beauty advantage), and has better external sound (by a lot). This not only applies to music but also to speaker phone calls. For those that are still confused about the sd card The US version DOES HAVE an SD slot on the left side opposite to the sim tray, so that argument is mute. The onscreen buttons are a pain to get used to unless you are coming from something with the same.
* The S5 takes better pics (not by a lot and you really only notice when they are side by side unless you have a photographers eye), the s5 is water and dust resistant (this is a biggie impo), i think the s5 battery is going to be a bit better, I dont see any real world difference in the screen clarity or color between the two. You will never notice any difference in speed rather in everyday apps or playing something like riptide, the s5 operates hotter and does not dissipate processor heat as well as the m8. Im worried about the charging port cover breaking on the s5. Too bad they did not get rid of the fp scanner and the hr monitor and spend the money on dual speakers.
*Photos and water resistance important = S5
*Sound and cleaner less gimmicky important = M8
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Leaving samsung after 6 years
i have been with Samsung since their flip phone. and i even dealt with the stupid boot loader lock on the s4 for a year. and i recently got the galaxy s5 not even a week and i am going to exchange it for the htc one m8. I was greatly disappointed to find out that the Galaxy S5 (SUCH A POWERFUL PHONE) was locked down. It truly depressed me. and then recently i found out you can unlock the htc one m8 boot loader at their website, THAT IS AWESOME, but why cant sammy do that? its dumb. so i just wanted to let everyone that reads this know that htc CAN be unlocked. unlock crappy sammy. And to be honest i love the Galaxy S5, its powerful, fast, and amazing. but i cannot go another year without custom roms, kernels, and recoveries, thanks to my s4 being locked, i never got to learn the newest roms, kernels, or recoveries. so in exactly 4 days im leaving the locked down chamber of samsung and entering the freedom of htc
I would love to hear comparison of the battery in the LG G2 vs this phone. I am tossed up on going back to the LG since my experience with battery on this phone has been subpar.
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I would love to hear comparison of the battery in the LG G2 vs this phone. I am tossed up on going back to the LG since my experience with battery on this phone has been subpar.
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I've only used my GS5 unit for a little while, but I'm pretty sure the G2 has better battery life. (I was very impressed with it in my G2 review.)
That's what I thought too but I keep reading the s5 is better and I just don't see it.
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I guess this fits in this category. Every once and a while I'll check a new phone against a GoPro. For people that use Android apps to gather telemetry and what not on autocross / road courses, it might be of interest.
I'm still not a GS5 owner yet. No 32GB model along with the locked bootloader has really turned me off buying one (and I'm not going to pay full price for one from T-Mo, or switch carrier due to my work discount).
At this point I've got my eye on the OnePlus One when it comes out. Unlocked, running Cyanogenmod out of the box, nice. A little bigger than I'd like considering it's in the same class as the Galaxy Note 3, but it's still pretty enticing, especially for the price.
I've been a Samsung user for several years now, but I think AT&T has ruined it with their nonsense. I might just save my subsidized upgrade for something better down the road.
I am currently on the HTC m8. Having this itch to swap it for the Galaxy s5. Anyone had any regrets having done this? Anyone here preferring the HTC m8 over this?
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I am currently on the HTC m8. Having this itch to swap it for the Galaxy s5. Anyone had any regrets having done this? Anyone here preferring the HTC m8 over this?
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I still prefer the M8, mainly due to Sense 6. Much better user experience compared to TouchWiz IMO. I also prefer its design and rear curvature laugh a bit better.
I have the itch as well to switch to the S5 but I know I feel I will regret it.
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Time article
""The world's biggest handset maker has replaced the head of its mobile design team amid criticism of the latest Galaxy S5 smartphone.""
I would be curious how much of that criticism stems from America? How much of that I wonder is actually not because of the Samsung design at all, but more because of frustrations experienced from the 2 big carriers turning off features designed by Samsung and then adding their own junk on top of turning things off (like they know better than both the phone designer/manufacturer and the major App producers.)
Forced updates that contain more bloatware, turning off great features like wifi calling, initial loading of bloatware that most people would like to disable in favor of other free apps that do the same thing quicker, better, and with less memory load. Hmm Samsung; maybe your head of design team needed replacement, but I sure would look at other factors. Meanwhile Im back on my OGP until I can sell this S5 and jump ship myself.
Just interested in how current S5 owners will feel if Samsung brings out an upgrade to the current S5 this year after stating clearly this was not going to happen. Personally I would have not purchased the S5, kept the S3 and waited for the super model.
Also do you think we should do anything about it, spam Samsung's facebook account, write letters of complaint, or will we just have to lump it?
I know this has been discussed to death already, just interested in numbers and whether as a group we should do anything about it, please dont discuss anything else here but that.
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Also do you think we should do anything about it, spam Samsung's facebook account, write letters of complaint, or will we just have to lump it?
I know this has been discussed to death already, just interested in numbers and whether as a group we should do anything about it, please dont discuss anything else here but that.
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Spamming their social accounts will accomplish nothing.
People already did it several times before, with the whole Exynos source issues on the S3...
It will not work. Try something else but that.
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Spamming their social accounts will accomplish nothing.
People already did it several times before, with the whole Exynos source issues on the S3...
It will not work. Try something else but that.
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I doubt anything will make a difference, plus most people probably didnt understand the Exynos issue on facebook, they will however understand being lied to, this is why I think spamming facebook might achieve something this time, if only to make a statement.
I really don't see why do you care, your S5 will be less powerful than when you bought?
What is the problem?
LG g pro 2 and they release G3
HTC m8 and they will release htc prime
Sony z and they rilis z1 last year
Samsung s5 and they release prime
Its about providing the latest tech to customer at the earliest available time and tech war among them and apple.
So if s5 is not attractive for s4 owner, they can now buy the prime version. S3 owner already happy upgrading to s5.
Do u want samsung to delay s5 to july waiting for the better tech in Q2/Q3 2014? Or htc/sony delay m8/z2 waiting for the same? S5/m8/z2 is using the latest tech available to mass produced on Q1 2014. Why complain?
Technology always moving fast.
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Just interested in how current S5 owners will feel if Samsung brings out an upgrade to the current S5 this year after stating clearly this was not going to happen. Personally I would have not purchased the S5, kept the S3 and waited for the super model.
Also do you think we should do anything about it, spam Samsung's facebook account, write letters of complaint, or will we just have to lump it?
I know this has been discussed to death already, just interested in numbers and whether as a group we should do anything about it, please dont discuss anything else here but that.
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You know the same happened with the
S3, I9305 - got an upgrade to I9306
S4, I9505 - got an upgrade to I9506
and in a few months..
S5, G900 will get an upgrade to G906
This doesnt mean that the original version is junk, it's still great, but the technology is advancing so fast that for a flagship to hold true to its name (best of what that company can offer), it must be upgraded more often.
For example, Sony's official policy is to bring a new flagship every 6 months.
This is how things go.
You just enjoy your s5 and quit thinking about this. It's a great phone, and will remain that for this year at least!
for me the s5 was a hesitant buy, it was a fairly decent upgrade on the S3 but not the S4, I had an S3. However I was still on the fence as there were rumours that the prime would follow. I then decided to wait but shortly after Samsung's CEO stated categorically there would be no prime, so I bought the S5
No, my S5 wont suddenly loose its potency as soon as the S5 prime comes out, I wont even care the S5 is not the top phone anymore, its that this new phone is going to be a lot better and I bet it will be much more on contract than the S5, therefore I would have had a far superior phone if I had just waited a while longer.
Given the choice I would have waited, I dont like being lied too either, this is why I have a problem, thought more people would fee the same way, obviously not.
ho hum
This is the exact reason I dislike sony
da.trute said:
for me the s5 was a hesitant buy, it was a fairly decent upgrade on the S3 but not the S4, I had an S3. However I was still on the fence as there were rumours that the prime would follow. I then decided to wait but shortly after Samsung's CEO stated categorically there would be no prime, so I bought the S5
No, my S5 wont suddenly loose its potency as soon as the S5 prime comes out, I wont even care the S5 is not the top phone anymore, its that this new phone is going to be a lot better and I bet it will be much more on contract than the S5, therefore I would have had a far superior phone if I had just waited a while longer.
Given the choice I would have waited, I dont like being lied too either, this is why I have a problem, thought more people would fee the same way, obviously not.
ho hum
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You know that 6 months after the s5 prime, the new s6 will be launched, right?, a lot better.., and the cycle continues....... .......
dragon135 said:
What is the problem?
LG g pro 2 and they release G3
HTC m8 and they will release htc prime
Sony z and they rilis z1 last year
Samsung s5 and they release prime
Its about providing the latest tech to customer at the earliest available time and tech war among them and apple.
So if s5 is not attractive for s4 owner, they can now buy the prime version. S3 owner already happy upgrading to s5.
Do u want samsung to delay s5 to july waiting for the better tech in Q2/Q3 2014? Or htc/sony delay m8/z2 waiting for the same? S5/m8/z2 is using the latest tech available to mass produced on Q1 2014. Why complain?
Technology always moving fast.
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This! And months later a new phone exceeding the Prime will come out, and months after that another Prime (or whatever they'll call it) and the cycle continues till kingdom come lol. Doesn't bother me if they release a Prime version at all.
Some leaks suggested that it might come in limited quantities so it may just be a korean availability..just like last year with the LTE-A version of the s4..
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Do nothing. None of it will do anything, trust me. Don't waste your time.
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This is the exact reason I dislike sony
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Same... I really hate as a customer the 6 month release cycle.
But as someone else mentioned technology moves so fast that it's the only way that your latest flagship remains competitive to the rest of the latest offerings from other companies.
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I highly doubt that Samsung would make such a stupid move. To release a flagship device one month and then release ANOTHER flagship device which would essentially supersede the S5 2-3 months later would be utterly stupid. I am personally not a fan of the Galaxy line to begin with, I simply got one recently because I got temporarily bored of the iPhone 5S I had and wanted something new to hold me up until the iPhone 6 comes out, but I know a lot of my customers (I work for T-Mobile) will come to me on a daily basis wondering what in the world is going on. No, the S5 won't just magically become outdated hardware that doesn't work, but to a lot of people it will be a slap in face because a lot of these said people want the "latest and greatest" not the "latest and greatest....last week."
the flagship phone (S) model has, up until now had a 12 month release cycle with a couple of minor exceptions with slight differences in versions, not six as some of you have stated here, I'm not including the note Range here, I've never wanted one.
I honestly couldn't care less how often they release phones, the more the merrier, I just don't want to be lied to, I simply would not have bought this phone had Samsung remained silent about the rumours.
This is the first time a company has outright lied about a release date in order to ensure their current phones sell, this for me is a step too far. If they had remained silent I wouldn't have bought it, I would have waited to see if the rumours panned out.
Obviously this is all assuming Samsung do release the Prime, there will be a lot of egg on a lot of faces if it turns out just to be the note 4 or something else.
This could be other manufacturers spreading the rumor also to get Samsung owners mad at Samsung.
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Do nothing. None of it will do anything, trust me. Don't waste your time.
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Finally, some sense in the forums.
Here's Samsung's reply in advance to all those who want to start a revolution.
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Do nothing. None of it will do anything, trust me. Don't waste your time
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Remember the Galaxy Round? It was a bent N3 at a 35% price premium. A "better" more expensive SGS5 takes nothing away from the version anyone's using. Name one mobile device maker that announces in advance a new device while they are still trying to sell current ones? People find out by rumor and leaked stats which is what started this thread. What grounds would anyone here go after Samsung for? Failure to maintain flagship status? If the new device is stylish and metal I'd imagine there will be more happy that Samsung's finally offering a premium option than those pissed their current phone's been upstaged. Personally, I have no interest in a metal phone for durability reasons; better yet paying a premium for it. To each their own.
BarryH_GEG said:
Remember the Galaxy Round? It was a bent N3 at a 35% price premium. A "better" more expensive SGS5 takes nothing away from the version anyone's using. Name one mobile device maker that announces in advance a new device while they are still trying to sell current ones? People find out by rumor and leaked stats which is what started this thread. What grounds would anyone here go after Samsung for? Failure to maintain flagship status? If the new device is stylish and metal I'd imagine there will be more happy that Samsung's finally offering a premium option than those pissed their current phone's been upstaged. Personally, I have no interest in a metal phone for durability reasons; better yet paying a premium for it. To each their own.
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Dont get me wrong, the S5 is great, I am very happy with it, i'm not up for a metal case either, however given the option i'd have waited and taken the QHD screen and 805 cpu, the issue here, if the Prime is released is that we were lied to, mislead into buying the S5 when there was a better model just around the corner. This is unacceptable behaviour in my opinion, its not that a new phone is coming out, its that they lied about it to protect their sales.
Perhaps its a sign of the times that so many people think this is ok, normal even, getting shafted appears now to be the norm.
bungadudu said:
You know the same happened with the
S3, I9305 - got an upgrade to I9306
S4, I9505 - got an upgrade to I9506
and in a few months..
S5, G900 will get an upgrade to G906
This doesnt mean that the original version is junk, it's still great, but the technology is advancing so fast that for a flagship to hold true to its name (best of what that company can offer), it must be upgraded more often.
For example, Sony's official policy is to bring a new flagship every 6 months.
This is how things go.
You just enjoy your s5 and quit thinking about this. It's a great phone, and will remain that for this year at least!
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Those were tweaks, not upgrades really, small CPU / RAM speed / size hikes, the prime has a next gen CPU/GFX and a QHD screen, not the same at all.
I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
I also wanted to wait for the bed Nexus 6, and it was a pain with my HTC one s. As soon as I heard the rumors I ran and got the Nexus 5 and it's awesome, don't regret it a bit.
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brunobliss said:
I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
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I just bought a 7 month old Nexus 5. For 5 reasons...
I'm upgrading from a HTC Desire (Bravo)
I've got a Nexus 7 with CM on and I love it
My friend has a N5 with stock ROM on and loves his phone
I'm heavy handed with my phones and want performance for price
I like the all black look Slimkat will offer with the bezel
On the above, I almost waited until the G3 came out, but I am very excited to receive my N5 tomorrow
Also, my desire has CM installed too.
No offense, but stop d*icking around with your legacy GN—please read my relevant post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48553703&postcount=1.
BinkXDA said:
No offense, but stop d*icking around with your legacy GN—please read my relevant post at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=48553703&postcount=1.
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Ur comparing a new flagship with a 5year -flagship- in the rate technology is going this is the least u can get
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I'll take that as an offense especially given the way you express your feelings.
Also, no offense but If you didn't read what I wrote, don't bother replying
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brunobliss said:
I had Galaxy Nexus for just a year when the Nexus 5 came out and it was love at first sight, some of my friends have it and i absolutely love that phone! My plan was to be patient and wait for the 2014's release of the new NExus.
Right now, not only the wait is killing me but there's also these rumours saying there will be no nexus 6, on the other hand if i wait till october to find out and decide to buy Nexus 5, then i'll be in the same situation i was 2 years ago with the Galaxy Nexus, I'd be buying a phone that will have a phone that receives no official updates after just one year ...
Anyone else in this situation? The wait to know more on NExus 6 is killing me!
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sorry, but if you're waiting around for the latest and greatest, you'll never be able to buy anything... the "next" device will always be better than the current one.
Get the Oneplus One when (or if) it becomes available for general sale. I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
http://oneplus.net/one
Raistlin1 said:
Get the Oneplus One when (or if) it becomes available for general sale. I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
http://oneplus.net/one
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How is this any different from any other phone on the planet? The nexus series gets updates a million times faster than other phones. The S3 I had before didn't get updated to 4.3 until just this past winter or so. Also, waiting for the oneplus phone might be longer than waiting for the nexus 6/ silver whatever Google has planned.
As for the G3, I wouldn't hold my breath on updates with that, especially if you're on Tmo. The Tmo version of the G2 still isn't easily rooted on kitkat.
OP, going from the original Galaxy Nexus to the N5 is going to be a major update, for me going from S3 to N5 was a noticeable upgrade. IMO the N5 is currently to best phone available, at least for somebody who likes rooting and custom roms. If you just want the latest and greatest go with s5 or g3.
kingston73 said:
How is this any different from any other phone on the planet? The nexus series gets updates a million times faster than other phones. The S3 I had before didn't get updated to 4.3 until just this past winter or so. Also, waiting for the oneplus phone might be longer than waiting for the nexus 6/ silver whatever Google has planned.
As for the G3, I wouldn't hold my breath on updates with that, especially if you're on Tmo. The Tmo version of the G2 still isn't easily rooted on kitkat.
OP, going from the original Galaxy Nexus to the N5 is going to be a major update, for me going from S3 to N5 was a noticeable upgrade. IMO the N5 is currently to best phone available, at least for somebody who likes rooting and custom roms. If you just want the latest and greatest go with s5 or g3.
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I know the N5 gets the fastest updates, just saying this last one took a while and fixed almost nothing. Rumors that Nexus line is done and we have no idea when/if Silver is coming out and what the cost details will be. Oneplus one is taking forever to come out but the specs are great, price is right and CM should also have a fast update schedule.
I'll sell you my N5 with a flip wake case and spigen shell case for cheap. I love the nexus 5 but I have a nexus 4 back up phone and think I might get the moto x on sale today..
Any "significantly" better phones to come out, will have a significantly higher price.
Mostly I think these devices have sort of peaked. I think advances will be sluggish, and as I said...any huge improvement will come with a huge price.
So....buy what suits your needs and price range now. The N5 will hold its own for real world use for some time.
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I love my N5 but that last update was so long in the making and so short in fixes and features. Hopefully the next OS version will be announced this month and we will know when it will be available, otherwise I may go to the oneplus or even the G3.
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You can't be serious.
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The last update was a POINT release, not a feature release. It addressed some bugs that some people had, and not much more. That's what it was supposed to do. It didn't come out when you wanted it? Tough. Use something else, then talk to me about updates, available roms, support, etc.... you'll come running back. <the grass is always greener on the other side syndrome>
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KJ said:
Any "significantly" better phones to come out, will have a significantly higher price.
Mostly I think these devices have sort of peaked. I think advances will be sluggish, and as I said...any huge improvement will come with a huge price.
So....buy what suits your needs and price range now. The N5 will hold its own for real world use for some time.
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I agree. If the next gen phone was 8 cores/4gb ram/64bit and affordable, then yeah, wait. But that won't happen. As said, the N5 will be a force to reckon with for some time. It still has near-top specs and is $349. Nothing can touch it. With 4.4.3 and running ART, I would speedtest my phone against any stock phone confidently in real world examples. You are splitting hairs these days between phones until the TRUE next gen phone comes out. And even then, it will come with a big price.
I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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The nexus 5 may have 99 problems, but the camera ain't one
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andino said:
I just got my N5 last week after going back and forth. I've had a ton of flagships in the past 6 months and nothing really compares to what the N5 has to offer for the price. Its easily my fav phone to date after using the MotoX, G2, Z1, and One m7. It has its drawbacks but its benefits outweigh them easily. If you're okay with the camera and battery specs, then its a great phone for sure.
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I really don't have the complaint with the camera, It works pretty descently. I have to say my biggest complaint after having the phone since it was released is how it switches from 3G to 4G. I am not sure if this is a network thing or not. But once the phone descides a 4G signal is to low, it switches to 3G, but doesnt switch back to 4G when the signal gets better. Happen all the time in my office building.. I am constantly putting it into airplane mode, then back out of airplane mode. Then it switches right back to 4G.
Apparently, the Nexus 6 has been halted and instead, they are working on "Android Silver". Maybe they are going to turn the Nexus 6 into something that will go head to head with HTC's and Samsungs heavyweights (HTC One M9 and Galaxy S6).
Some of the specs I read(reportedly) about the Nexus 6 were stunning. Hopefully it's still in production for a fall 2014 release. But I wont be surprised if it's delayed because of their interest for Android Silver
I hope this year's Google io will have some news regarding nexus 6. If not, I'll probably go ahead and acquire nexus 5
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rayiskon said:
The nexus 5 may have 99 problems, but the camera ain't one
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That's pretty subjective. Its decent but its not great.
CookieMonster9 said:
I really don't have the complaint with the camera, It works pretty descently. I have to say my biggest complaint after having the phone since it was released is how it switches from 3G to 4G. I am not sure if this is a network thing or not. But once the phone descides a 4G signal is to low, it switches to 3G, but doesnt switch back to 4G when the signal gets better. Happen all the time in my office building.. I am constantly putting it into airplane mode, then back out of airplane mode. Then it switches right back to 4G.
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Yeah I have the same thing with signal with mine. What network are you using. I'm on Tmo and it tends to do this pretty often with my Z1 as well.
andino said:
That's pretty subjective. Its decent but its not great.
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Actually it isn't. The only subjective part about it is that there are people who can't get a good shot even if you hand them a DSLR. IMO, nexus 5's camera is among top 5 android phone cameras.
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