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Does rooting the Moto X make it lose its features?

I am getting the AT&T Moto X within the next few days, and I know that it will have some bloatware on it. Would rooting the device do anything to damage the OS, or would it just be like most rootings and allow me to remove the bloatware?

It will allow you to remove bloatware. As far as I know all my features still work fine.

It may. Some apps check for root and disable things. Motorola bootloader unlock said something about not being able to rent movies/shows via Play since it can alter DRM protected stuff.......and some security prone apps like Google Wallet I think may be affected. I haven't tested either.

I had no problems with anything after I rooted. I haven't seen anyone complain about anything not working in the PwnMyMoto thread the last time I checked it.

gokart2 said:
It may. Some apps check for root and disable things. Motorola bootloader unlock said something about not being able to rent movies/shows via Play since it can alter DRM protected stuff.......and some security prone apps like Google Wallet I think may be affected. I haven't tested either.
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I haven't had an issue renting or buying movies from the play movies app. Rooting didn't break tap to pay in my gnex. Relatively few apps are broken with root. None that I use thankfully.
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I haven't had any issues with any app not working because I'm rooted. If there are any issues you can easily hide root from those apps with an app from SuperCurio called OTA RootKeeper. It can be found in the play store.

How do you hide an app with OTA rootkepper. I rooted and am using some xposed themes and noticed that touchless control doesnt work for me?
Dark9781 said:
I haven't had any issues with any app not working because I'm rooted. If there are any issues you can easily hide root from those apps with an app from SuperCurio called OTA RootKeeper. It can be found in the play store.
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camblue said:
How do you hide an app with OTA rootkepper. I rooted and am using some xposed themes and noticed that touchless control doesnt work for me?
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It doesn't hide apps, it hides root by backing root up and doing a temp unroot. You can later restore root through the backup.
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Oh okay I thought it did something different from what I know, gotcha thanks!
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It doesn't hide apps, it hides root by backing root up and doing a temp unroot. You can later restore root through the backup.
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If your referring to all the custom Moto Features "moto connect, moto assist, active notifications etc." you will not lose these features by rooting. If you were to root & than change to a custom rom that did not have the moto features built in you would then lose your those features. Rooting only gives you writing ability on your filesystem (beyond the manufacture's consent).

Why are you guys posting questions in a themes and apps section? We have a Q&A section for a reason...
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1ManWolfePack said:
Why are you guys posting questions in a themes and apps section? We have a Q&A section for a reason...
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There is a report button where you can inform the mods that this thread is in the wrong section.

mentose457 said:
There is a report button where you can inform the mods that this thread is in the wrong section.
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Shutting down threads is my speciality.
I'm not trying to be a jerk, but these threads are organized into certain sections for a reason. If I want an app or theme - I look here. If I want to answer or ask a question - I go to Q&A.
Not rocket science folks.
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gokart2 said:
It may. Some apps check for root and disable things. Motorola bootloader unlock said something about not being able to rent movies/shows via Play since it can alter DRM protected stuff.......and some security prone apps like Google Wallet I think may be affected. I haven't tested either.
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Google movies shouldn't have a problem, it's the downloaded videos (h246 or encrypted?).

In case you ever stumble upon an app that's giving problems because you're rooted, there's a xposed mod called RootCloak. With that you can hide your root access on a per app basis.
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Hi,
I've the Latin America (Brazilian) version of the Moto X XT1058, so far I found it to be the easier version to have bootloader unlocked.
I already have my Unlock code from Motorola but here goes the question.
So far I found browsing the web that after you unlock the bootloader, some services may stop like Google play movies... Well.
I've one Galaxy S4 i9505 rooted and running the CM11, the google play movies don't work on it, return some error, but the play music work fine.
I do very often consume google content so my question lay on the google features itself. Will they stop working after bootloader unlock?
I want to remain stock, but I want to unlock and run Xposed to make some tweaks, for example remove the volume warming message when using headphones.
Thanks in advance !!!
Kind regards,
Johnny

Short answer is No. You will not lose any features by rooting. However, word of advice. If you even need to ask this question I would recommend learing how to return your device back to stock first. If you learn how to return back to stock then you will have more confidence modding your device. There will be bumps in the road where you WILL need to return your device back to stock.

Travisdroidx2 said:
Short answer is No. You will not lose any features by rooting. However, word of advice. If you even need to ask this question I would recommend learing how to return your device back to stock first. If you learn how to return back to stock then you will have more confidence modding your device. There will be bumps in the road where you WILL need to return your device back to stock.
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This

cntryby429 said:
This
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Travisdroidx2 said:
Short answer is No. You will not lose any features by rooting. However, word of advice. If you even need to ask this question I would recommend learing how to return your device back to stock first. If you learn how to return back to stock then you will have more confidence modding your device. There will be bumps in the road where you WILL need to return your device back to stock.
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Hello there!
Thank you very much for your reply!
Seems that in 2-3 weeks Lolipop will reach Motox XT1058, maybe the wise decision now would be wait than risk .
Kind regards,
Johnny

Do you NEED root?

I was just wondering what apps people run that people find they NEED that requires them to root.
For me on the X I just like to edit egl.config to enable full HW accelerated UI. I have personally not found any other need for Root I can not easily live with out or do other ways.

knitler said:
I was just wondering what apps people run that people find they NEED that requires them to root.
For me on the X I just like to edit egl.config to enable full HW accelerated UI. I have personally not found any other need for Root I can not easily live with out or do other ways.
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One word: Xposed.
'Nuff said.

I have a lot of wifi passwords saved in my phone and need a root app to see the passwords. I also use root to block ads.
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sivarticus85 said:
One word: Xposed.
'Nuff said.
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Amen and to remove stock apps from the carrier. but xposed framework is a must for every device i will ever own. sad to say i had been through 2 devices without it.

Xposed Framework is the one and only reason.

Personally, I "need" it for the Exchange security bypass and the tethering enabler...............
Both are Xposed modules though. So yea, get Xposed Framework.

ovismos said:
Personally, I "need" it for the Exchange security bypass and the tethering enabler...............
Both are Xposed modules though. So yea, get Xposed Framework.
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What Exchange Security bypass?

knitler said:
What Exchange Security bypass?
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Basically its for my work email. So they can't remotely wipe my phone. I get paranoid about that sort of thing.
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.shantz.exchangebypass
Sent from my BOOSTO! Moto X

ovismos said:
Basically its for my work email. So they can't remotely wipe my phone. I get paranoid about that sort of thing.
http://repo.xposed.info/module/com.shantz.exchangebypass
Sent from my BOOSTO! Moto X
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Wow I have been looking for something like this.

knitler said:
Wow I have been looking for something like this.
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I guess you need root for Xposed too.
Sent from my BOOSTO! Moto X

Simply, yes. On every device I own and will own. ?

One word:
ADAWAY

I want to be the admin of my device so I need root. Xd what a question

ad blocking and wifi tether on my Verizon unlimited data.
Do I tether often, no, but in an emergency when its needed (like last year's ice storm, or this years vacation), its very nice to have.

Sprint DM Service?

In my list of running apps is an app called Sprint DM Service. It has permissions accessing virtually everything on the phone, in or out. Does anyone know what this is? I've searched online, and can't find anything. Btw, this is a Nexus 6 through AT&T, so I kinda figured it has nothing to do with Sprint. Any info would be appreciated.
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I have seen this as well on my Nexus 6 purchased from Google Play and running on Verizon...

I am also on vzw, I froze it with TiBu and have had no issues. Don't need sprints **** running in the background...

ITGuy11 said:
I am also on vzw, I froze it with TiBu and have had no issues. Don't need sprints **** running in the background...
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Thanks......I froze it too, and will see if it affects anything......
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Its probably the thing that allows PRL/Profile updates on Sprint.

Rxpert said:
Its probably the thing that allows PRL/Profile updates on Sprint.
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Could be......but since i got mine through at&t, I would have to assume that it would be on all models then, and put there by Google. Seems a little funny. It was running 24-7, but frozen now.......might delete fully later.

JoeJags said:
Could be......but since i got mine through at&t, I would have to assume that it would be on all models then, and put there by Google. Seems a little funny. It was running 24-7, but frozen now.......might delete fully later.
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Yup, on all models, since you could theoretically take that to Sprint down the line and have it work.
After the evil att sim lock of course

Rxpert said:
After the evil att sim lock of course
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Hahaha.....yeah.....PURE evil....

Removing SprintDM
I'm on AT&T Nexus 6 and was successful in removing ATT startup splash screen, logo, and rigntones... therefore I would like to exterminate all traces of Sprint from my NEXUS PHONE!
Anyone have success with rooting & removing this completely unnecessary bloat? (Sprint worked just fine on Nexus 5 phones without SprintDM).
What directory would I need to delete when rooted?

phalanx_x said:
I'm on AT&T Nexus 6 and was successful in removing ATT startup splash screen, logo, and rigntones... therefore I would like to exterminate all traces of Sprint from my NEXUS PHONE!
Anyone have success with rooting & removing this completely unnecessary bloat? (Sprint worked just fine on Nexus 5 phones without SprintDM).
What directory would I need to delete when rooted?
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These apps can be frozen or removed with titanium backup....whether there's other consequences I don't know

Skripka said:
These apps can be frozen or removed with titanium backup....whether there's other consequences I don't know
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Don't want to "freeze" it. Need it [email protected]#$*%* gone. Do you happen to know where this rat hole (root directory) lives?

phalanx_x said:
Don't want to "freeze" it. Need it [email protected]#$*%* gone. Do you happen to know where this rat hole (root directory) lives?
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Freeze them first to see if there are secondary consequences or breakage. Going nuclear deleting directories you don't understand is how you end up with a firmware won't boot.
We don't yet know how far the spare carrier libs are baked into the firmware.

Skripka said:
Freeze them first to see if there are secondary consequences or breakage. Going nuclear deleting directories you don't understand is how you end up with a firmware won't boot.
We don't yet know how far the spare carrier libs are baked into the firmware.
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True, which is why I was asking if anyone else has already found this directory and deleted it successfully. From what we know, all carrier bloat was added onto a separate partition as to not affect Google OTA updates. Wondering if the same is true of Sprint's BS...

phalanx_x said:
True, which is why I was asking if anyone else has already found this directory and deleted it successfully. From what we know, all carrier bloat was added onto a separate partition as to not affect Google OTA updates. Wondering if the same is true of Sprint's BS...
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i have deleted it using Root Explorer. not a single issue since

From what I've encountered, Sprint DM also appears to be necessary for updating your PRL and device config.
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shelooga said:
i have deleted it using Root Explorer. not a single issue since
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Directory path or it didn't happen. :silly:

phalanx_x said:
Directory path or it didn't happen. :silly:
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sorry,
system/priv-app/Sprintdm

shelooga said:
sorry,
system/priv-app/Sprintdm
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Thank you!!!!1!!!one!!1
You are awesome.

phalanx_x said:
I'm on AT&T Nexus 6 and was successful in removing ATT startup splash screen, logo, and rigntones... therefore I would like to exterminate all traces of Sprint from my NEXUS PHONE!
Anyone have success with rooting & removing this completely unnecessary bloat? (Sprint worked just fine on Nexus 5 phones without SprintDM).
What directory would I need to delete when rooted?
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Lol, the initial setup app is Sprints. Good luck with that.

So root is100% necessary?? OK I found my reason to root

Lollipop, or wait for root?

So after all the hype for Lollipop and whatnot, I've been wondering what exactly the differences are between Lollipop and KK. Other than the theme, the lockscreen notifications (which we already have with moto display), and ART. Are there any other major differences?
Furthermore, what's the general opinion on the odds of root being achieved? I know it's more likely on KK, but is it worth waiting to update for, or should I take the Lollipop update when it's rolled out? I don't miss much coming from a rooted device, other than the firewall. Xposed would be nice but I can probably live without it.
Basically I just want to weigh my options for when the time comes.

I will wait.

Also - what can now be achieved without root?
For example:
A lot of apps now support functions that required root before
Tasker
Greenify
Etc.
Being able to disable apps somewhat replaces the need for titanium
Sent from my XT1254

Is there a way to disable the updates coming from Verizon? I want my phone as "stock" as possible in case we ever get root so I'm trying to freeze the HD Calling/VoLTE update from installing but not sure if there is currently a way to do that without having root?

New to the VZ and Droid scene
I just got my Turbo and that update so far has been more than just the Volte after doing an FDR I actually noticed a little better responsiveness. I am looking into battery life now. Even without root or unlocked bootloader it is a pretty cool phone. Aside from the battery draining bloat, does anybody have big drain issues with command center after the update ( that Verizon did instore )

ccheww said:
Also - what can now be achieved without root?
For example:
A lot of apps now support functions that required root before
Tasker
Greenify
Etc.
Being able to disable apps somewhat replaces the need for titanium
Sent from my XT1254
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One of the main reasons I want root at this point is to disable the capacitive lights. They stay on a lot of times when they really shouldn't, like when watching movies or videos.

jal3223 said:
One of the main reasons I want root at this point is to disable the capacitive lights. They stay on a lot of times when they really shouldn't, like when watching movies or videos.
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Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en

ccheww said:
Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
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Awesome! Thanks.

ccheww said:
Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
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Thanks

ccheww said:
Theres a way to disable the capacitive lights without root:
Download "Darker"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mlhg.screenfilter&hl=en
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Amazing. Thanks!

Absolutely! Every day I find a new app that replaces a need for root. If anyone else has any other similar discoveries (apps that can do things we normally needed root for) please don't hesitate!
Example: My GPS was toggled by itself once (I think through tasker), so I have high hopes that there is some way to toggle GPS without root.
-I'm trying to replicate what happened and what variables I used in tasker.
Sent from my XT1254

I think this is a very good discussion. Is there any news on someone even possibly finding a root method for 4.4? I'll wait if there's any hope of root, but I haven't heard any new info regarding root or even if there is any word of someone even looking into it.

Same
Should we wait?

abrahamjones said:
Should we wait?
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I dont think you should wait to get lollipop once its released. I feel the hold up currently is because lollipop is close to getting released thats its pointless to release a root method now. After the first lollipop update dont i wouldnt take anymore

abrahamjones said:
Should we wait?
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Do you currently have a choice?

US S7/S7 Edge is locked down

Our phones are developmentally dead.

v8dreaming said:
Our phones are developmentally dead.
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sadly yeah, aslong as we could find a way to get root im happy. all i want is adaway.

I don't think it's dead
If they found a way to develop for the S6 edge then I'm sure there's a way for the S7 Edge

Why are they dead? I just got this phone and curious why?

HRodMusic said:
sadly yeah, aslong as we could find a way to get root im happy. all i want is adaway.
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Did you try Adblock Fast that is build into Samsung 4.0? Download from App store and then manually setup using instructions.
I'm using it on my S7 with zero issues and no ads. Of course, limited to Samsung browser.

I'm using adguard which sets up personal VPN on phone to block ads. Seems to work for all apps but does hit battery life a bit. Worth it for me.

martinezma99 said:
Did you try Adblock Fast that is build into Samsung 4.0? Download from App store and then manually setup using instructions.
I'm using it on my S7 with zero issues and no ads. Of course, limited to Samsung browser.
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I have not, is it pretty legit? im gonna give it a go right now.

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I have not, is it pretty legit? im gonna give it a go right now.
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Yes. Legit. It got bad ratings but works perfect on my S7. I think people haven't realized you need Samsung Internet 4.0 or it won't work.

origitat said:
Why are they dead? I just got this phone and curious why?
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Bootloaders are locked. Flash secured and all. All us carriers, not the exynos, but all us snapdragons, including tmobile. We are on twitter and got a response from John Legere who claims to be working on a potential solution to at least getting tmobiles unlocked. Historically we have always been fine, but for some reason we aren't now. Doesn't make sense for the exynos to unlocked and SD to be locked imo
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Why would safestrap not work for this phone? The note 3 was locked and we had root and roms
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Bootloaders are locked. Flash secured and all. All us carriers, not the exynos, but all us snapdragons, including tmobile. We are on twitter and got a response from John Legere who claims to be working on a potential solution to at least getting tmobiles unlocked. Historically we have always been fine, but for some reason we aren't now. Doesn't make sense for the exynos to unlocked and SD to be locked imo
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Here's hoping.... I'll buy one the day root drops.

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Why would safestrap not work for this phone? The note 3 was locked and we had root and roms
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I'm sure something will come up eventually. Us folks on ATT are used to being screwed with the locked bootloaders. Think it might be new for T-Mobile users though. It might take a little longer, but ATT Samsung devices typically get root after some point.

I've had it since launch, my Nexus 6 basically died. I miss the debloating root allows, like how I'm forced to have the Directv app when I don't have any interest in having Directv. I do like it though it's a nice phone. If we can get root to remove the bloatware I'm for that otherwise I'll live with it for a year until something better drops.

martinezma99 said:
Yes. Legit. It got bad ratings but works perfect on my S7. I think people haven't realized you need Samsung Internet 4.0 or it won't work.
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I'm using it now as personal VPN on adguard was eating battery. Just make sure to set it for no ads (default is some safe ads). On some ads I was getting occasional pop-up ads.
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I'm forcing myself to stay secured with all the fbi vs apple stuff going on.

rachelm920 said:
I've had it since launch, my Nexus 6 basically died. I miss the debloating root allows, like how I'm forced to have the Directv app when I don't have any interest in having Directv. I do like it though it's a nice phone. If we can get root to remove the bloatware I'm for that otherwise I'll live with it for a year until something better drops.
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You can use package disabler pro from the play store to remove bloatware

stafly17 said:
You can use package disabler pro from the play store to remove bloatware
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People are reporting worse battery life after debloating system apps with that on the S7

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You can use package disabler pro from the play store to remove bloatware
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It doesn't remove anything, it just disables apps that are able to be disabled. I can do that myself.

NeoTINS said:
It doesn't remove anything, it just disables apps that are able to be disabled. I can do that myself.
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Yeah I disabled the directv app and some others myself. Glad I have expandable storage so it doesn't hog my memory LOL
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nrfitchett4 said:
I'm using it now as personal VPN on adguard was eating battery. Just make sure to set it for no ads (default is some safe ads). On some ads I was getting occasional pop-up ads.
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VPNs like Adguard don't "eat" battery. What your seeing is that the system attributes all battery used by apps that access the internet to the VPN.

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Why would safestrap not work for this phone? The note 3 was locked and we had root and roms
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Seems like Pre-Lollipop builds were always hacked for root. Also, at least on my S5 G900A, Pre-rooted 5.0 was able to be flashed as long as the BL was kept OA1 (KK 4.4.4). But if you took the OTA to 5.0, no root ever! Also they totally locked it down with 5.1. FU ATT!!!! :laugh::silly:
But they sure did get into that S6 pretty fast, didn't they? Go figure.
I applied to this Samsung Mobile Insights program. Might get a free G935A or G930A if accepted into it. I do not know how I will live without root, but at least it has a sdcard. I do not have a good feeling about a battery that does not come out though...