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Hey guys so i bought an 1800mAh battery for my IS and i don't seem to be getting any extra juice really. My main concern is that the phone still thinks i am on theold one and indicating that i am on reserve power when i'm actually not. Is there some utility i can use that gives me accurate feedback as to how much juice is left in my battery or are my suspicions unfounded?
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If your IS is S-OFF then you should be able to use ClockworkMod Recovery to wipe battery status. And to calibrate new battery, you need to charge the new battery until full (there's some dispute on whether to leave it charging for 8 to 12 hours), and then use it until the phone tells you to charge (~1% left).
But NEVER drain your battery to 0%
Finally repeat that process for at least 4 times, new battery calibration done!
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If your IS is S-OFF then you should be able to use ClockworkMod Recovery to wipe battery status. And to calibrate new battery, you need to charge the new battery until full (there's some dispute on whether to leave it charging for 8 to 12 hours), and then use it until the phone tells you to charge (~1% left).
But NEVER drain your battery to 0%
Finally repeat that process for at least 4 times, new battery calibration done!
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Not 100% correct.
If you notice that your battery-left-show-thingy doesn't really match how much battery you really have left, you should use the phone untill it dies. When the phone dies because the battery is "empty" (in quotation marks since it isn't 100% empty if I can recall what I learned from my electronics course correctly..) it re-calibrates the battery stats and should be more accurate next boot.
But except for that fact you're right
If you want the battery to have as long lifetime as possible, keep between 30% and 70% all the time, and when you're not going to use the battery for a long time charge it to 40%!
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
Some good reading if you want to know more
(well, I know this is a bit off topic, but someone might find this info quite good to know )
usually third party battery with "higher" rating usually sucks and don't really give the performance that they rated the battery with
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baste07 said:
usually third party battery with "higher" rating usually sucks and don't really give the performance that they rated the battery with
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correct third party battery's usually have about 20% less of their "ratted" capacity some lesser known third party ones have like 40% less
Their is nothing like the real thing
but as others have said re-calibrate your battery
That link was sure a wealth of info. Very informative.
I heard you can use the 1800mAH desire z(I think)battery as it is the same size and type. I know nothing about it but will I need to do anything special or is it plug and go? What kind of performance difference can I expect?
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Ummm...its only 50mAh more. How much extra battery life did u expect?
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Hey i am using my note for a year now, and my phones battery got swelled, with some discussion on xda i was adviced to replace my battery which i did with another original samsungs battery. Now this new battery is charging and discharging fine, and is giving me an on screen time of 5 hours with constant messaging and music and some browsing, the issue that i am having is of battery indication and screen flickering.
First the screen flickering issue, whenever i am below 20 % my screen starts to flicker and it keeps on flickering till the phone dies, sometimes even at 15%. Then when i tried to charge it, it charges from 0.
At times when i partially charge my phone, say i am on 50% and then when i unplug my phone at 60%, it then shows 75% indication but then the flickering starts at 30% and phone dies at 26%.
The battery is giving average time so i think its not a battery issue or maybe it is.
But then i mostly found it a battery indication issue, i read multiple threads and even wiped my battery status. but the issue is the same.
may be give it a few charging cycles.. charge it from 0 to 100 with phone off.. till it says completely charged.. then check the performance..
Maybe you bought a faulty battery!?! did you bought the orignal samsung battery?
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abhinav quietly brilliant said:
Maybe you bought a faulty battery!?! did you bought the orignal samsung battery?
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replace my battery which i did with another original samsungs battery.
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He said he did
so the battery is in 6 month warranty ask for a replacement
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Your phone is just a mirage as are all of your flaming posts.
you sure its original, some fake ones out there, Id still bring it back If I were you
Well yes its from samsungs outlet, dated and stamped.. otherwise the battery indicators and every other stat is good. On full charge it has 4.320 V. Discharging equally to 2.8 V. But indications is not going according to the drain and flickering at low %.
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Well yes its from samsungs outlet, dated and stamped.. otherwise the battery indicators and every other stat is good. On full charge it has 4.320 V. Discharging equally to 2.8 V. But indications is not going according to the drain and flickering at low %.
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I am having a similar issue where my screen will flicker for a minute and then immediately turn off and charge from 0%. I was wondering if it could be a kernel issue as my battery is the stock battery and has never had problems before (I am on XXLSC). To me it looks like the battery is not getting enough power (hence the flickering) and then turns off. Sometimes if I turn off my phone as soon as it starts to flicker and I wait 10-15 minutes I can turn it back on no problem, other times it will just die. I have tried clearing battery stats, and was going to try my spare battery but apparently that swelled in storage.
Good luck in figuring it out! I will report back if I find anything new.
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Well yes its from samsungs outlet, dated and stamped.. otherwise the battery indicators and every other stat is good. On full charge it has 4.320 V. Discharging equally to 2.8 V. But indications is not going according to the drain and flickering at low %.
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4320volt, interesting, I think its faulty, its off about 120 volts. If it depletes at a higher voltage, it looks like something is astray with the meter/level indication or battery
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4320volt, interesting, I think its faulty, its off about 120 volts. If it depletes at a higher voltage, it looks like something is astray with the meter/level indication or battery
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Sorry for the confusion it actually was 4320 mV or 4.320 v when full charged.
Let me post some screen shots. The overall on screen time is around 5 hours. So the battery is giving a good timming.
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Your phone is just a mirage as are all of your flaming posts.
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App fanboys just enjoy their fixed batteries
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Hello, I recently purchased the 3500mAh 3.7V extended battery for my dinc. Can someone tell me what voltage I should charge it up to? I am not seeing amazing results, so I believe that my battery is not completely calibrated. I did run it through multiple complete uses (fully charged, to drain, and repeat) so I don't know what the problem could be. Thanks.
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What were you expecting for battery life? Depending on the brand it may not be a real 3500mAh battery. One full discharge and recharge should be enough to calibrate the software though Li-Ion batteries have no memory in them. Check this out. It mentions extending the life on the battery but is still interesting stuff.
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries.
In fact that whole site has a lot of info on batteries.
Hey tiny. Well, from what I was reading about this battery, users got two full days with heavy usage (they described heavy usage to be streaming music, surfing the Web, testing, playing games, etc.) but, this is what I get, and it's the best I got (3 hours display,half an hour talk time). I even went down to gb to see if it would be good, but I didn't see much of a difference. And I did look at battery university a bit, but I didn't delve into the material. I'll check that link out.
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Hey tiny. Well, from what I was reading about this battery, users got two full days with heavy usage (they described heavy usage to be streaming music, surfing the Web, testing, playing games, etc.) but, this is what I get, and it's the best I got (3 hours display,half an hour talk time). I even went down to gb to see if it would be good, but I didn't see much of a difference. And I did look at battery university a bit, but I didn't delve into the material. I'll check that link out.
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Wow, that's pretty abysmal for a 3500mAh battery, especially in a lower consuming device like the incredible. How does that compare to your stock battery? It should be at least 70-80% better assuming that it's not really a 3500mAh battery. It may be a false claim that it's 3500mAh from the makers. I think 4 hours screen time on 3500mAh should be more reasonable for about 35 hours total time. I usually get about 1-3 hours screen time over a period of 10-30 hours total on my Galaxy Nexus. On my Inc on CM7 with stock battery my usage allowed me to go up to 30 hours, usually 20 on a charge with 30% left I think but it's been a while and I don't know the screen on time. It might have been about 2 hours.
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Wow, that's pretty abysmal for a 3500mAh battery, especially in a lower consuming device like the incredible. How does that compare to your stock battery? It should be at least 70-80% better assuming that it's not really a 3500mAh battery. It may be a false claim that it's 3500mAh from the makers. I think 4 hours screen time on 3500mAh should be more reasonable for about 35 hours total time. I usually get about 1-3 hours screen time over a period of 10-30 hours total on my Galaxy Nexus. On my Inc on CM7 with stock battery my usage allowed me to go up to 30 hours, usually 20 on a charge with 30% left I think but it's been a while and I don't know the screen on time. It might have been about 2 hours.
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Yeah, that's why I am worried. And actually, my stock battery usually have me like a day with good use. When you put it in perspective, my 1300mAh battery gives me about 67% of the battery life that I get from a 3500 mAh battery. Is there any way I can measure the power of the battery? I take physics, so even finding a way to calculate the current, voltage, and/or resistance of the battery would help.
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Check batteryuniversity.com, they have a link for calculating the actual capacity, or if you know your model which you should you can Google for actual capacity. Someone probably has posted capacities of a battery.
just going to add that in my experience(I have 3 Dincs), just a 3500 mah battery isn;t going to give you amazing results on it;s own. power management on the Dinc requires some attention. i find that charging the battery in the phone doesn;t necessarily yield a full charge, especially if you are charging it while the OS is loaded(topping it off). so my strategy has been to run my batteries down to empty,replace with a fresh one and charge them in an external battery charger-but not just any charger but a RAVpower universal charger. I have an "official" Seido charger and that doesn;t charge my batteries fully either even though it thinks it has by showing a green LED. I know some people will say that batteries shouldn;t be treated like this and that they don;t suffer from memory effect so you are free to not do what I am doing.
the biggest things that use up the battery is the 3G radio and the Display so of course if you are just using your phone to do stuff non stop of course you'd be lucky to get 4-6 hours of usage. Even if you have your phone doing useful stuff over wifi like checking for email in the background, it does consume battery. but with my phone in Airplane mode(like overseas where I would have no 3G or Wifi), I;ve gotten a couple of days of Standby time.
other stuff I have done is remove any apks in memory that might be consuming cpu cycles and memory. less is more on a limited platform like the Dinc. biggest cpu hogs on my phone believe it or not is Facebook and Amazon App Store(my guess is that it;s periodically checking my licensing for some apps that I got from them). it;s not uncommon for me to boot up the phone and for the battery to go from 100% to 90% in 5 minutes as the phone is initializing and doing whatever it;s doing. then slowly deplete from from 90% to 80% in 8 hours or so.
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it;s not uncommon for me to boot up the phone and for the battery to go from 100% to 90% in 5 minutes as the phone is initializing and doing whatever it;s doing. then slowly deplete from from 90% to 80% in 8 hours or so.
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Your battery gauge is lying to you (and it's not such a bad thing)
So, I looked through all of battery university, but i still have 1 unanswered question. The website states that most Li-ion batteries should be charged to a mximum voltage of 4.20 V. However, does this apply to all batteries? I mean, my extended battery is a 3.7V battery. Was the htc dinc original battery a 3.7 v battery? If the voltages are different, then wouldn't the 3.7V battery need to be charged to a higher voltage so that the potential difference would equal that of the original battery and thus store the same charge? (theoretically)
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So, I looked through all of battery university, but i still have 1 unanswered question. The website states that most Li-ion batteries should be charged to a mximum voltage of 4.20 V. However, does this apply to all batteries? I mean, my extended battery is a 3.7V battery. Was the htc dinc original battery a 3.7 v battery? If the voltages are different, then wouldn't the 3.7V battery need to be charged to a higher voltage so that the potential difference would equal that of the original battery and thus store the same charge? (theoretically)
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You could check wake lock detector on the play store to see what apps may be causing a partial wake lock... I know gmail and uccw cam cause a decent wake lock time
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zachf714 said:
You could check wake lock detector on the play store to see what apps may be causing a partial wake lock... I know gmail and uccw cam cause a decent wake lock time
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I did check that and I didny find anything very abnormal, since I already greenified those apps.
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Brower facebook and tapatalk for about 20 minutes nothing else. Dropped 8% . I also killed my battery yesterday watching a movie and playing a game took a total of 3 hours. What do you guys think.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
No, if it dies that fast then it's user error.
Install betterbatterystats and look for wakelocks.
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let your battery cycle a few times, this phone rivals my iphone 5's battery life, pretty amazing never had a phone before that did that.
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How do I cycle?
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How do I cycle?
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let it go from 100 to 0 a few times, when i first got the phone my battery was pretty bad but after a couple weeks im getting 20+hours on a single charge =D
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Jme369 said:
There's no need to cycle with li-ion or li-po batteries. In fact it's explicitly bad for your battery to run it down to 0.
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Running your battery from 100% to 0% is useful in recalibrating the battery in the event of cell mismatches, which can happen over time.
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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u need to calibrate your battery like the guy above said by using your phone for a few days
horr1blek1tten said:
I'm confused what to do here. One of you guys tells me to cycle and the other says theres no need.
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Here's a very good post for information about li-ion / lithium polymer batteries:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=40596097&postcount=3
You generally shouldn't need to recalibrate the battery on a new phone (since it's a new battery), but it doesn't hurt if you think your battery may be mis-calibrated. (for example, your phone sits at 0% battery for long amounts of time) Do you have any apps that monitor wakelocks on your phone?
i was complaining my battery was crap yesterday. iv gained 1 hour in battery since yesterday.
GSam reported 9hours 24mins avg battery yesterday. I cycled it once since then and today its showing 10 hours 38mins avg.
Hoping for further improvements.
The phone needs to know where empty and full battery is. I've always calibrated mine by fully charging and killing at least twice with every phone I've owned and had no il effects and got much better battery life afterwards.
So do I calibrate or cycle? If so, how do I do that? Im fully stock and the only battery app I have is the battery guru made for snapdragon devices. Idk if that's what's killing my battery.
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It does no harm to run the battery to 0% occasionally, but the advice i have seen is to try to not run li-ion / li-po batteries below 10% too often as that can shorten their life.
For a new device i would run it down to around 10% with normal use, then give it a real long charge till it indicates fully charged, then unplug it and wait a minute or so then plug it back in and leave it on charge another couple of hours to make sure it is fully 100% charged.
After you have done this whole procedure maybe 3 times, you should have a properley conditioned battery. My HTC One is usually at 50% or better after a 12 hour working day, so i am more than happy with the battery life.
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well sir, link me up with a valid source stating that.
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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You are totally wrong I am afraid. LiON and LiPO batteries do not have memories and neither like a complete discharge/recharge cycle. The rule is 'a little and often' as far as charging is concerned.
Here is a link to an article which will explain further http ://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/how_to_prolong_lithium_based_batteries
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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They do NOT have memory effect like nickel-based batteries, but they CAN suffer from cell mismatches which require re-calibration (aka fully charging, discharging, and recharging).
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exactly!
Basically just use your phone for about a week, then you can start fixing it
My experience and questions
Thanks for this excellent post! I got my new HTC One day before yesterday and like the Vincent's post says, the phone had about 40-50% of charge when it came in the box. I was very excited to see the phone that I totally forgot about recalibration of the battery
I used the phone out of the box, and I have charged from 2 nights (from about 15% to 100% charge) and haven't run the battery the battery down to 0% yet (when I say 0% what I mean is the level of charge when the phone automatically turns itself off to protect from complete discharge). My questions below:
1) What should I do now to accurately calibrate my battery life? When I called HTC customer service today they asked me to do battery reset (steps below).
- Untick the quick boot under settings -> power
- Turn off the phone
- Hold down the volume up, volume down and the power button continuously for 1 minute (the phone seem to boot up and shut down 3-4 times during this process)
- Run your battery all the way down to 0% and then charge it fully to 100%
This seems to be a fair procedure but since it was told by customer service, I'm a bit skeptical. So I would very much love to hear some opinion of battery gurus here
2) Does the 2 night charging that I did affect my battery capacity (has the dent been made already)?
Please let me know, and thanks in advance!
PS. The battery life in my experience in the past 2 days has been decent (I have about 20% from 7am - 9pm) and I'm a moderate-heavy user!
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I bought the Motorola Razr I yesterday, I been using it all day today.
But the battery is abnormally short. It drops very fast min 10% per hour to 27% per hour. I don't think this is normal for a new phone. The battery temperature is 38°c on normal use.
Am I using the phone wrong or did I get a faulty phone?.
I have nfc on all the time until 23% but after that I turned off nfc to see if that was the problem but it didn't seem to be.
I can get screen captures if needed.
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you need some circles from full to down then you will se the real power.
but the battery with stock rom is not so great as with the custom rom from omar or max.
i dont think your battery is faulty give it some tryes!
and at least you csn not easy change the battery by yourself
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I bought the Motorola Razr I yesterday, I been using it all day today.
But the battery is abnormally short. It drops very fast min 10% per hour to 27% per hour. I don't think this is normal for a new phone. The battery temperature is 38°c on normal use.
Am I using the phone wrong or did I get a faulty phone?.
I have nfc on all the time until 23% but after that I turned off nfc to see if that was the problem but it didn't seem to be.
I can get screen captures if needed.
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You might wanna figure out what is actually draining your battery. Search XDA for 'better battery stats' and install it. When your phone is not beeing used it should stay in deep sleep for most of the time, if not, check wakelocks to see whats keeping it from sleeping. For me it was mostly Google Now which caused the drain.
ok so the more i use the battery the better results i may get?
One of the reasons i bought this phone was because of the review on battery life e.g. http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/motorola-razr-i-1098183/review/9
Now i have done a wipe of cache and data, did a factory reset. Charged from 10% to 100%. Getting the last few % is hard, this morning i woke up and it was still 99%. Went back after 1 hour to check it was 99% and dropped to 98% while the phone is off and charging.
Once its 100% again i will install the better battery stats as 696 suggested and post my results.
In my pretty long android experience this happens all the time with new phones, after updates.. You can do anything you want (cleaning cache, restart, etc), but it gets finally better by itself after a couple of days.
Don't ask me why, but it works like that.
Battery life of Razr i is excellent, best of all phones (incl iphones) I ever had!
Good luck and have some patience - so simple is that!
Recommended is to charge the new Phone full, before you turn it on the first time. A lil bit patience is needed, but that should help to avoid stuff like this.
And as the Guy above already posted, the battery will calibrate during daily use. It's the same, when you flash or update an Rom. You'll see the "real battery drain" first after a couple of Charges. And don't wipe battery stats in CWM, that's useless.
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And also try disabling Google Now (search for that if you don't know how).
My phone never hits 100% on charve all day stuck at 98 or 99%
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My phone never hits 100% on charve all day stuck at 98 or 99%
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I have the same problem phone never gets to 100% it was going to 98% but this morning it was at 97%, thinking of sending it back as it only three weeks old...it should have come right a this stage.
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Did you manage to get to the bottom of the question?
I bought my Razr i 3 weeks ago, I had high expectations about the battery, but the battery only lasts about one day and half, is this normal? I am not a heavy user.
Cheers