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Should I return the TILT???
I was depending on this being an mp3 player/video player/phone/fun/office device. ALL IN ONE being key!!
This device has dissapointed me on the multimedia end for obvious reasons as I can't even drag and drop SD DIVX Shows!!
Is there a device that can do all this that I should get instead since I'm in my 30 days???? What would you do?
Thanks for any advice....
redsrule2500 said:
Should I return the TILT???
I was depending on this being an mp3 player/video player/phone/fun/office device. ALL IN ONE being key!!
This device has dissapointed me on the multimedia end for obvious reasons as I can't even drag and drop SD DIVX Shows!!
Is there a device that can do all this that I should get instead since I'm in my 30 days???? What would you do?
Thanks for any advice....
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I am also in the same boat. I was expecting more from it when it came to playing movies and just overall performance. Don't know if I should return it to newegg and void the att contract. Or if it would be better to keep the contract, sell the phone on ebay, and use that money to buy a different phone.
return them
I would return them, and buy Iphones.
Iphones have by far the best web browsing available short of having a pc, which is what I was hoping for out of my tilt. Now that i know my web browsing issues are because htc didnt provide drivers, i feel like im missing a huge part of what this phone should have been and it is very disappointing.
Take It Back
return it...
RETURN IT
why? well the more HTC get returned etc the quicker they will pull their finger out and correct things and not allow such stupid mistakes
Just make damn sure that when you return it; you tell them WHY.
Hmm... The new 8gb Nokia N95 has just come out... Looks rather nice too...
All of you whom own a Tilt / Tytn II, T-mobile or other clone distributed by carriers should return this piece of ****ty hardware when not satisfied with the video performance.
Indeed, AT&T certainly would not have counted on such a return (and loss ) and will raise this towards HTC as loss of business.
Just return the ****ty thing and buy something that does what it's supposed to do.
And, for your own good, never buy anything coming from HTC. They're crooks, hypocrites and arrogant bastards who think that their customers are of a low enough IQ to be mocked in their face and still want to feed HTC money (this is exactly what comes out from their official response to the driver issue).
ahson said:
I would return them, and buy Iphones.
Iphones have by far the best web browsing available short of having a pc, which is what I was hoping for out of my tilt. Now that i know my web browsing issues are because htc didnt provide drivers, i feel like im missing a huge part of what this phone should have been and it is very disappointing.
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It no iphone for me....no way. It has the same problems in limited capabilities as you have to convert everything and use itunes….no thanks!
Also, anyone have suggestions besides iphone??????
Nokia's new model of the N95 looks sweet. 8gb RAM, black, not HTC... Worth checking out.
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Nokia's new model of the N95 looks sweet. 8gb RAM, black, not HTC... Worth checking out.
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no 3g, small screen, no keyboard, GPS? ... all features i wanted
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no 3g, small screen, no keyboard, GPS? ... all features i wanted
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Now to be fair, you didn't way what features you wanted!
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Now to be fair, you didn't way what features you wanted!
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Everything the tilt has...except it works!! I thought Tilt was my perfect device
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Everything the tilt has...except it works!! I thought Tilt was my perfect device
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Yup. I bought my tilt last week so I still have two weeks to decide. I would return it today if i could figure out a replacement that does everything the Tilt does but better. I would personally rather have the Tilt than an Iphone even with the problems, and that nokia isn't doing it for me.
If you don't mind losing the internal GPS and the extra ram you could downgrade to the 8525 (Hermes). Nice thing is that there price has dropped considerably since the Tilt came out. For awhile there AT&T was selling them for $99...so you could probably find another site out there somewhere that would give it to you even better than this.
I'll trade someone my 8525 for their Kaiser
ha, I can't believe what im reading here! are u guys really that bitter. I honestly feel that even when (if) htc releases the fix, MOST of us will not notice a big difference in our daily use. I compare it to a bluetooth keyboard I purchased. before I bought it, I was going crazy, thinking I needed one, etc. once I got it, I don't think I've ever used it.
don't get me wrong, I would love the drivers, but other than that I love my phone. great internet, great gps, full keyboard, etc. there is honestly no other phone id rather have.
My Warranty ends tomorrow. I think im just going to keep the damn thing. Sure the video converting sucks. but, I got the Camera to work (thanks to Navadi), and I havnt watched a movie on my mobile in awhile. At least the reception is flawless. I have better reception than most of my friends and family. with the same provider, AT&T.
In my house NO ONE gets reception. and I can have a full conversation inside my house perfectly.
My brother who owns the Iphone. He has to walk outside in order to talk on his phone.
Oh and yeah the full keyboard is much better than the Iphone at Texting.
Oh and dont get me wrong I am disappointed with HTC with the way they are handling this situation. Atleast be helpful, rather than leaving us with a "F**k you, we got your money, you got what you paid for." what they did was false advertise.
The problem is, in the U.S. The phone is still better than majority of all the other phones out there. OBviously not in Europe. but here. Yeah.
I've had both the iPhone (Returned it) and now I have the TILT...i prefer the tilt.
I know the video situation sucks but I think the phone is still good overall
Hi, I am very new to the cellphone/ smartphone modding scene. My friend recently decided to buy a new phone so we had been looking for a good phone for him and me, so he decided either tilt or iphone. I personally think the iphone is neat, but the lack of 3rd party programs w/o jailbreak, and no keyboard (i must have a full qwerty keyboard) is a huge turn off. We both have att, so he went to the store one day and came back with the 16g iphone. He took it back the next day... so he traded it for the tilt. Well I played around with it and I bought mine the next day (this is like 4 days ago). Since then I have done quite a few things... such as find out that there is NO drivers for the gfx card... apparently none of the reviews actually came out and stated that... "sluggish at times" is not "NO VIDEO DRIVERS!!". I have also flashed about 15 times or so, tried all sorts of cabs and whatnot. Right now I am running the L26 Diamondv3 rom. Anyways since i know we don't have drivers we must make do with what we have. But if I am going to be paying an extra 30 a month for unlimited data, i might as well use it. I know that i won't be able to play any games other than very very simple 2d games. But I was hoping i would be able to at least watch youtube videos. Well, watch videos where i can actually see what is happening (not the low quality mobile youtube with horrible sound). I have tried flashvideobundle with the tcmp w/e it is plugin. It worked alright but not as well as I had hoped. I have also looked into coreplayer, but 1.) not freeware 2.) apparently dTV doesn't work anymore so you have to use DirectDraw which tears.
My dad has an iphone and i can compare his quality using edge to mine using hsdpa... of course the tilt loses...
Ok. Now onto the point. Since there isn't really any other nice phones out there (that i know of, please correct me if i'm wrong) that have a large qwerty keyboard, not one that my thumb presses 4 buttons at once.. I think I will have to stick with the tilt. But if I am, i want to be able to use $30 a month in internet. I am using opera mobile beta for my browser, but i'd also like to watch decent quality vids. So...
Does anyone know anything that I might have missed in my digging around. Any tweaks for coreplayer that you might have found that i could look into purchasing it. Or maybe something to do with flashvideobundle.
Another thing is, is that i paid $400 for this phone... and a two year contract. So... I really need this phone to work, very well.. even if it doesn't have drivers.
This brings me to the second part of my post. Since I have spent $450 w/ tax... Should i keep this phone, maybe hope HTC makes drivers/ gets sued / whatever (which probably wont happen)... Or should I take it back and invest in a different phone? My old phone is an lg Chocolate KG800 (not american version) It just has a numberpad. My phone before that was a bb with full qwerty keyboard which i fell in love with. Does anyone know a phone that my suffice either until something else comes out, (which i would need around a $100-150 ish phone) or something that i could just go ahead and buy, and be happy with. Two phones I saw earlier was the Black Jack II and the BB Curve These would probably work until something really nice comes out
I know this is an HTC site and the Kaiser subsection, but from what I read not very many people are happy with HTC... So if you could please give me an unbiased opinion on my situation i would greatly appreciate it.
Thanx , Especially to those who cooked all sorts of goodies for me to play with these past few days
I bought this phone thinking i would use gps, but i barely do!
point is, really really think about what u will actually use, vs what would be nice to have.
The tilt/kaiser will surpass, but even though its subpar at playing videos/games its still solid device.
I would love to play a game seamlessly, but then again, the only game id play is like bejeweled at the toilet. And kaiser/tilt plays it seamlessly too! FYI, With coreplayer, videos will play smoothly, and its currently being updated with flash support.(There talking to adobe and all that stuff, check out corecodec.com forums!)
A good phone w/ a slide out qwerty wont be out for a few months, and if ur planning on getting a deal with a carrier u can add a year to that.
So, if it was me and
-I want to get a good deal with a carrier
-I thought real hard and found out i really dont play doom on my phone that much.
Id get the kaiser
otherwise, if
-I have about a grand to spend on a phone
I would wait a couple months and purchase a nextgen phone.
Sony Xperia sounds nice!
Oh yeah, dont be a hater of htc because they messed up. They already do more than what other companies will do for their customers.(Offer a free Wm6.1 update, etc) To bad people dont realize that. Alot of people here expect to be spoonfed by a company thats not obligated too.
On, The GPS issue , i thought it would be nice, but I got a gps a few weeks ago so i haven't really used it. I am a college student so I need some sort of quick on the fly , yet simple note taking. So I was thinking the tilt would work. and for the most part it does. But anyways, Actually the original phone i was going to get would have been the xperia, then i saw the tilt. since they are both made by HTC I figured that it'd be probably the same device... but now i know it probably has drivers.
And I guess HTC has done some good for their customers, but what kind of company releases a $400 smartphone without drivers?...
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Another thing is, is that i paid $400 for this phone... and a two year contract.
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Holy crap! One of the reasons I'm not too upset about the driver issue is because I paid ~175 for this phone. I dont know man. If you ask me, if you going to dish out that much, you might as well wait and see what HTC Diamond has to offer once/if it comes out in the US. I haven't been following the Diamond too well so I'm not even sure. Dont get me wrong, this phone is really good. When it comes to functionality and availability of support (XDA) and apps (XDA again), its really the way to go. GPS, 3g, qwerty, a dozen chefs making dozens of ROMs, a dev community taking the best of other devices to work with Tilts, and so on. These are the reasons I havent sold this phone. I say do more research and look into phones that are coming up, so I say wait. If you can find a tilt for cheaper than 450, maybe in the 200 range, then keep it, but 450....? Damn. If it helps, I got mine at BestBuy with a contract...good luck
Thats my 2¢.
the money is ome of my biggest concerns... if it did onlycost only a hundred or a a little more.. then it would be like thats sucks.. oh well... but since i dont curently have a job at the moment (this is usibg half of my graduation money) so i really dont have the money to blow awa. my friend got a 100 percebt refund so i can to. but the internet feature is really nice. in my opinion not as good for normal browsing as the iphone, but i dont think it is worthpaying 450 plus the extra 30 for something that is mediocre..
(this was typed on a tilt on my way to clas... the text was really lagy on the input, but that could be the browser)
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the money is ome of my biggest concerns... if it did onlycost only a hundred or a a little more.. then it would be like thats sucks.. oh well... but since i dont curently have a job at the moment (this is usibg half of my graduation money) so i really dont have the money to blow awa. my friend got a 100 percebt refund so i can to. but the internet feature is really nice. in my opinion not as good for normal browsing as the iphone, but i dont think it is worthpaying 450 plus the extra 30 for something that is mediocre..
(this was typed on a tilt on my way to clas... the text was really lagy on the input, but that could be the browser)
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Have you tried youtubeplay and opera mini?
Ok guys, I need a bunch of good opinions real fast like. I'm shopping for a new tilt online. Yea, I'd love to buy a REAL TYTN II but I don't have that kind of money to throw around right now. I figure that you are paying more for a name, some different paint, a camera and that's about it. So an att tilt will just have to do. I can always flash the firmware to the latest htc spec. So, with all that in mind I need to know what I should do. I've been looking on ebay and they have used tilts for around 250-350 dollars. They are all in good condition... they say, and come with everything. I'm thinking about buying one of these "slightly used" ones, assuming they really are just that. OR I can buy a brand new tilt, fresh out of the box for around 400-450 dollars and know that no one else has touched it. Money is kinda tight, but I don't want this breaking on me either, it's got to last a long while. New or used? Appreciate it. SPACE
1) Line breaks are your friend.
2) If you are going to buy used, just make sure you get some kind of warranty to cover you in the event of hardware failure. Squaretrade sells warranty that cover everything short of losing your device, and AT&T offers insurance for $5/mo that will replace lost/stolen devices. Of course you need to be an AT&T customer for that last option.
AT&T is also selling refurb Tilts for $149 right now, but that requires a 2 year contract.
I just love these threads. Why should I buy "x"? The UTLIMATE reason to buy ANYTHING is because "YOU WANT TO!"
If you look at the price, specs, and reviews and it doesn't give you a boner, then you probably will not be satisfied with it. But if looking at the information gets you excited, then you should buy it.
Anything Treo, Myself, or anyone else says is secondary. Only you can look at something and know that is what you want.
jimmy is that post stuck on your clipboard right now? SPDT(same post different thread) the only difference is the name on the last line.
btw i think that is the greatest quote ever
"If you look at the price, specs, and reviews and it doesn't give you a boner, then you probably will not be satisfied with it."
to the op, don't do a refurbished phone with att, my original stopped working and they have sent 5 to me, 3 with broken USB ports, 1 broken screen, and one without a working radio, plus that last one wasn't recognized by my comp if it was in bootloader
I think you should buy both...used and new... and then see which one you like better. Which ever one you do not like, put in in a blender and make a video of it being shreaded and then upload it to YouTube and then we can all watch it. FANTASTIC! THANKS FOR THE THREAD!
JimmyMcGee said:
I just love these threads. Why should I buy "x"? The UTLIMATE reason to buy ANYTHING is because "YOU WANT TO!"
If you look at the price, specs, and reviews and it doesn't give you a boner, then you probably will not be satisfied with it. But if looking at the information gets you excited, then you should buy it.
Anything Treo, Myself, or anyone else says is secondary. Only you can look at something and know that is what you want.
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dude, I've wanted a phone like this before they even existed, ever since I was a kid watching star trek (old and new), I've had a boner for this phone for ages! My question really is should I buy used and save some money? I don't know because I don't know how reliable the phones can be... so, I thought I'd ask. This is my uber phone fcol! For now anyways...
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dude, I've wanted a phone like this before they even existed, ever since I was a kid watching star trek (old and new), I've had a boner for this phone for ages! My question really is should I buy used and save some money? I don't know because I don't know how reliable the phones can be... so, I thought I'd ask. This is my uber phone fcol! For now anyways...
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If that's the case you do not want sloppy seconds. When it comes to my Device Addiction I must have New.
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If that's the case you do not want sloppy seconds. When it comes to my Device Addiction I must have New.
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Same here, with only a few exceptions. Phones however, must be new and free of anyone else's "cooties" before I stick it up to my ear.
NEW NEW NEW, the one year warranty is priceless to me.
alright well I'm probably going to buy a new one but I'm not going to buy it from the att store. 500+ is too much for something that is going to drop in price asap. I'll buy a new one in the box off ebay unless you guys know where I can get one cheaper.
The HTC Touch Diamond is a piece of **** for what you pay for.
I paid almost 800$ for a great phone that I expected a lot out of, what did I get? A phone that worked for 20 days and then ****ed up. The entire phone just does not connect when it is not plugged into the wall outlet, and I've used another battery and it still does the same thing, it's a piece of ****.
For the past month I've been trying to get the damn thing to work, I've treated it like a diamond because I've paid as much as I would.
It was awesome for the first 20 days, but now it's useless unless connected to an adapter. Amazing. Mobilecityonline the guys i bought it from are willing to repair it on warranty but it will take 4-6weeks, THATS MORE THAN A MONTH.
I'm ending with my illusion of WM powered phones, goin to the iphone which has basically the same features, not all the looks but god damnit, the tech support is great, and the phone does not lag, and you don't need to cook roms to get the damn thing to work faster.
This is my rant, and anyone else in California who has a working HTC Touch Diamond, good luck keeping it running.
So it was awesome until it broke? Why not just get it repaired then?
Hardware fails from time to time, do you think the iphone is bullet proof? You say you've been trying to get it working for the last month, well if you'd just had it repaired under warranty you'd probably have it back by now.
No, 6 weeks is more than a month. That's far too long for a phone to be in repair. The company was ****ty, that's a given, but the phone ****ed up.
My sister has an iphone and has had it since it came out. The thing with apple is, you can walk into an apple store down the street and walk out with a brand new phone. Repairs take 1 day.
HTC America was really nice and offered the European hotline, but they agreed that if I sent it out to them it would take more than a month, 2-3 apparently. And they cannot send me a new phone but would have to repair this one.
I thought this phone was bullet proof, people f'ing compared it to the iphone. It's an amazing phone, but not worth 700$.
And to get even the basic tools from diamond you need to jailbreak the iphone or use the 2.0 appstore(not the good solution)
haha nice one mouseymousey made me chuckle!
good luck with your iphone mate, you'll soon come running back! 'basic'illy has the same features just about sums it up! and make sure you have a good belt to hold your trousers up! ahem.. BRICK lol
like mousey says, hardware can break down, lifes not perfect mate!
if your fridge breaks down are you going to switch to only eating tinned food?
How so? What basic tools does the diamond have that the iphone does not? What are we missing here? Jailbreaking is meaningless anymore because i'm already on the network with the iphone. You still have to pay for WM applications, it's not like the appstore is killing you.
Sorry double posted on accident. Anyways. I'm sorry, everyone on this board has been great, but no one anywhere on the internet could help me solve this problem, and HTCs best support told me to "hard reset" amazing.
I've just realized that WM is too much trouble, and HTC products are and will always be far too expensive for what you get. If the unlocked iphone cost about 700$ with 4/gigs of internal storage people would be ****ing pissed. But nothing about HTC but rather its a supposed competitor. Failed to impress.
Also, hardware does not break down in a matter of days of you getting it, that's ridiculous, that's showing the quality build of the product being really ****ty. Honestly, If i got a fridge from sears, that broke down in a weeks time I would not get the same brand again. The problem is that every product that you get has to work for atleast a couple of months and you have to do something to do it for it to breakdown. For god's sake, I haven't bought a single product that I couldn't fix, this is literally a hardware failure, that wasn't warranted, I didn't even touch the phone the wrong way, I swear to you I have had it in a case as thick as my wallet. It's ridiculous. If you call it a random breakdown that happens every now and then, **** that. 700$ is a lot for me. And a months time for repairs isn't gravy.
bye bye then
ta tar then!
car navigation, copy - paste, does not even exist... good pushmail etc. exchange stuff... remote desktop, video recording, crappy speeds compared to htc on connections, even with the new 3g... just to name few...
i love the use of iphone, theres no comparison to that, but featurewise its no match for diamond
iphone can melt...
Do you even know that the back cover from the Iphone can be so hot...even the backside can melt...it's posted on a dutch website which found an article from an american user....
If you don't believe me, here's the link to the dutch website:
http://www.allaboutphones.nl/forum/iphone-3g-wordt-ook-erg-heet-en-kan-zelfs-smelten-t3131.html
http://forums.macrumors.com/showpost.php?p=5943855&postcount=288
So you'd better think twice before you buy the Iphone...
greetzz Jeroen
oh yes, the '3g' phone that CANT make video calls?? errr, whats the point!!!? haha
iphone sucks big time!
There are so many good reasons to switch to the iPhone (useability, following the masses, trying to look cool, for example), but "because my phone broke" is not one of them when you consider that iPhone users have just been complaining about that very issue - and I'm not speaking about activation problems...
Anyway, have fun. Good luck with the battery.
I'll stick with the Diamond. Its features simply blow the iPhone out of the water. Most importantly for me is that I can easily write my own apps for it.
Car navigation does exist the new 3g has built in GPS. Copy and paste is released with the new 2.1 firmware, mobileme is up and running, HTC's wifi blows donkey, 3g is fast as hell on the iphone.
And again folks its not about features, its about BUILD QUALITY.
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Do you even know that the back cover from the Iphone can be so hot...even the backside can melt...
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So they found the TRUE reason to the clobal warming... iBlaah
Hi Intradvocate, can you please confirm that 6 weeks is longer than a month?
Sure, 31 days in a month (average) 7 days in a week, 4.4 weeks in a month. (divide 31 by 7)
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The HTC Touch Diamond is a piece of **** for what you pay for.
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This is my rant, and anyone else in California who has a working HTC Touch Diamond, good luck keeping it running.
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I can't help noticing that if the same thing happened to your iphone you would be probably writing similar post. Honestly WM6 is for professional and semi-professional users, perhaps closer to blackberry so if you were looking for an iphone like alternative it was a mistake. I am under no peer pressure in terms of "coolness"- the HTC SD must perform efficiently the business tasks that I throw at it and honestly there is currently no better alternative for my needs.
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And again folks its not about features, its about BUILD QUALITY.
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True, on iPod touch and non 3g iPhone, unfortunatelly the 3g version has not been the best quality from apple... this is quite tough place to get sympathy when changing to iblaah...
Hey everyone
Im inlove with this site and have had great success in routing and trying different roms for my Htc Hero CDMA, Amazing work from all of you.
i pose a question to you folks about these upcomming tablets that are being nocked off. And would like some input. Take this tablet from ebay
cgi.ebay.com/7-Notebook-WiFi-Google-Android-2-0-MID-Tablet-PC-/320619058357?pt=AU_comp_laptop&hash=item4aa66294b5
super awesome price for a pretty basic setup. Im in the research and development ideas of tablets. And have written off Apples due to some of the limitations.
I would love to be able to snag one of these cheap ones and experiment.
they come loaded with said to be Android 2.1 and looks alright but id love to be able to load in like the gps navigaitions and maybe update it to similar like services in Froyo 2.2 im thinking i wont be able to just download the root program and flash a cyanogen mod and were good to go? but at that price i wouldnt mind taking a stab at it almost.
anyone have any ideas?! or if this would be possible to flash?
-Yetti
TheYetti1 said:
Hey everyone
Im inlove with this site and have had great success in routing and trying different roms for my Htc Hero CDMA, Amazing work from all of you.
i pose a question to you folks about these upcomming tablets that are being nocked off. And would like some input. Take this tablet from ebay
cgi.ebay.com/7-Notebook-WiFi-Google-Android-2-0-MID-Tablet-PC-/320619058357?pt=AU_comp_laptop&hash=item4aa66294b5
super awesome price for a pretty basic setup. Im in the research and development ideas of tablets. And have written off Apples due to some of the limitations.
I would love to be able to snag one of these cheap ones and experiment.
they come loaded with said to be Android 2.1 and looks alright but id love to be able to load in like the gps navigaitions and maybe update it to similar like services in Froyo 2.2 im thinking i wont be able to just download the root program and flash a cyanogen mod and were good to go? but at that price i wouldnt mind taking a stab at it almost.
anyone have any ideas?! or if this would be possible to flash?
-Yetti
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The risk you take with a cheap "chinese" device is that it most likely won't receive any support. If nobody wants to buy it, and the manufacturer can't be found it's unlikely anybody other than yourself would be interested in trying to modify the firmware.
On the same point, the good manufacturers (Samsung, HTC etc) build decent mechanisms into their devicies to allow firmware upgrades, wheras cheap devices can be hit and miss.
Essentially, I would say that if you were to buy a cheap one such as that, you will be lucky to even get a root, but I wouldn't expect anything more.
Long story short, you want a good device, don't waste money on cheap junk, fork out for a GTab and get the real deal.
I tend to agree. "You get what you pay for" is definitely true in this case.
If what you want is a learning project, something to actually just "experiment" with, then yeah, some of the cheaper ones might not be a terrible idea. I learned a lot of the stuff I know from modifying some of the much cheaper devices (Velocity Micro Cruz Reader/Tablet). They were a good way to get into the swing of flashing new firmwares, modifying source code, etc.
That said, what it sounds like, is that you actually want a useful device, you just want it to be modded 'just so', for what you intend to use it for. If you want a GOOD device, that you actually intend to use for things like GPS, then I would have to say, avoid the cheap ones. They are usually buggy, updates are infrequent, and they just don't perform as well. Plus, there will be far less people working on them, so less people to provide assistance if you get stuck.
If you want a fast car that doesn't give you a lot of problems, buy a brand new Mustang.
If you want a cheap project, a way to learn about fixing and repairing cars, buy an 15 year old Geo Metro.
It all depends on what you're biggest priority is. The Galaxy Tab is a very solid, fast device, and has tons of potential for customization. If you intend to 'use' it (do something other than experiment) then I'd say this is the way to go.
I bought one of those cheap chinese tablets a few months ago, and I can honestly say I got what I paid for.
Poor screen, poor battery life, no support, no upgrades, no kernel source.
My advice - don't bother! I gave mine to my brother to use as a browser/media player, and he's happy with it, but for your requirements, I wouldn't bother.
Regards,
Dave