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Hi all just wanted to have your opinion since most of you are Z1 owners and I'm thinking of buying either the Sony Z1 Compact which just got announced and has the same specs as the Z1 but in a smaller formfactor or the Nexus 5.
I used to have the htc One mini coz it's more suited for one hand use than the htc One but the battery life is simply horrible and not a lot of ROM support.
So I'm asking Z1 users if you recommend the Z1 over the Nexus or vice versa ???
And is Sony updating their devices to the latest Android version or Like Samsung they just slow in pushing updates??????
ironfoxmind said:
Hi all just wanted to have your opinion since most of you are Z1 owners and I'm thinking of buying either the Sony Z1 Compact which just got announced and has the same specs as the Z1 but in a smaller formfactor or the Nexus 5.
I used to have the htc One mini coz it's more suited for one hand use than the htc One but the battery life is simply horrible and not a lot of ROM support.
So I'm asking Z1 users if you recommend the Z1 over the Nexus or vice versa ???
And is Sony updating their devices to the latest Android version or Like Samsung they just slow in pushing updates??????
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Personally bro I'd recommend the z1, it really is a monster Android device which is SUPER smooth and handles anything you can throw at it (software wise), personally I also think it is the better looking of the two. Honestly people have ripped this phone to shreds with saying this and that but at the end of the day (I must be very lucky) mine is perfect and it works like a charm
I think Sony is definitely one of the better manufactures to release timely updates, Samsung are just horrible!!! The z1 is getting KitKat very soon, in a few weeks time so that's awesome! But NO phone on earth can compete with a Nexus device when it comes to the latest and greatest Android release from Google. I really like Nexus for that reason, and also custom firmware support far out shines most (if not) all devices.
At the end of the day, it all boils down to personal preference. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that spec wise, the Nexus 5 doesn't even come close to the z1.
Good luck in your decision :good:
EDIT: Oh I just saw on phonearena that they are pretty similar spec wise.
It's really hard to compare the two because software-wise they may be on the same level, but just about everything else is different. I've owned both the Z1 and the N5 and I plan to get the Z1S the day it comes out.
They're so different because of the size. I truly felt like the Z1 was the size of a "phablet," and yes I hate that term but for lack of a better word, I'll use it. I had trouble fitting the Z1 in my pocket whereas the N5 was a perfect form factor for me. If you're dead set on getting KitKat and the latest updates, Nexus 5 or Moto X are your best choices (Moto X got KitKat before the Nexus 4, which was impressive). I've used the Moto X as my daily driver for a few weeks and have zero complaints. Switching carriers, however, is bringing me back into the market of new phones on T-Mobile.
Anyway, I really suggest trying to go to a Sony store to see the Z1. You're in for a very rude awakening if one-handed use is of utmost priority. I think I have normal-sized hands and the phone felt very large. I owned the G2 as well (which I would HIGHLY recommend you consider) and it was every bit as good as the Sony in every way sans build quality. It's fine, but, it's no Sony! Sony has a truly unique, high-end design. The penalty, however, is the bulk and weight. Also, even though the G2 and Z1 had the same battery size, the G2 lasted WAY longer on a charge for me.
To be honest there is no bad choice and I don't know if I made your decision any easier, but there's my objective thoughts on each of the phones. We're fortunate to have to make these hard decisions because really, you cannot go wrong.
On a final note, I found the battery life to be unacceptable on the N5 which was my reason for return. I also found it had extreme difficulty picking up and keeping a signal in comparison to the Moto X. Sometimes we forget that phones need to, well, work as phones and signal strength is a top priority for me.
Cheers!
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Here is my hands on comparison between the two. Maybe that will help you to make up your mind. I would choose the Z1 without a doubt.
Like @NanoSurfer already says: all boils down to personal preference
I was also comparing this 2 devices. I like to have the newest OS, but I also like to have a device that is not only a plastic-bomb. So my preference went to Sony and Z1 because of the design and the specs that alltogether make my decision easy. Sure, 4.4 is out, Nexus devices had it and the number of CustomROMs is not so small. But, when the time comes, we also get 4.4 and with this there would be some other ROMs available.
I didn't see it mentioned anywhere in this thread so I'm bringing it up. The Xperia Z1 Compact is IP58 waterproof (continuous submersion at 1.5m), so on that account you can't really compare the two... and by that I mean that between the top of the line specs in a small form factor, the support for external storage, the premium feel from the Xperia Z1, the far above average developer support from the manufacturer and the waterproofing, I'd certainly have the Xperia Z1 Compact above literally any other smartphone available on the market today.
That said there are obviously pros to the Nexus 5 as well, such as the extreme level of community development going on, the wireless charging and the speedy official updates.
Compared to the Nexus 5 I think the Z1 Compact will have better battery life as well, on account of it having the same amperage battery, slightly slower clock frequency and lower (but still definitely high enough) resolution.
In the end the Z1 Compact is a clear winner in my book.
I share the exact same thoughts. Can't believe I glossed over the water-proofing in my initial comparison
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It's really hard to compare the two because software-wise they may be on the same level, but just about everything else is different. I've owned both the Z1 and the N5 and I plan to get the Z1S the day it comes out.
They're so different because of the size. I truly felt like the Z1 was the size of a "phablet," and yes I hate that term but for lack of a better word, I'll use it. I had trouble fitting the Z1 in my pocket whereas the N5 was a perfect form factor for me. If you're dead set on getting KitKat and the latest updates, Nexus 5 or Moto X are your best choices (Moto X got KitKat before the Nexus 4, which was impressive). I've used the Moto X as my daily driver for a few weeks and have zero complaints. Switching carriers, however, is bringing me back into the market of new phones on T-Mobile.
Anyway, I really suggest trying to go to a Sony store to see the Z1. You're in for a very rude awakening if one-handed use is of utmost priority. I think I have normal-sized hands and the phone felt very large. I owned the G2 as well (which I would HIGHLY recommend you consider) and it was every bit as good as the Sony in every way sans build quality. It's fine, but, it's no Sony! Sony has a truly unique, high-end design. The penalty, however, is the bulk and weight. Also, even though the G2 and Z1 had the same battery size, the G2 lasted WAY longer on a charge for me.
To be honest there is no bad choice and I don't know if I made your decision any easier, but there's my objective thoughts on each of the phones. We're fortunate to have to make these hard decisions because really, you cannot go wrong.
On a final note, I found the battery life to be unacceptable on the N5 which was my reason for return. I also found it had extreme difficulty picking up and keeping a signal in comparison to the Moto X. Sometimes we forget that phones need to, well, work as phones and signal strength is a top priority for me.
Cheers!
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I've thought about the G2 its an awesome device with a huge battery and fits the hand perfectly but i got turned off by the horrible Android layout of LG and the plastic build quality. plus its more expensive than the Z1 Compact & Nexus 5 at least in my country.
I used to love Sony-Ericsson mobile before the Android era and especially now that they finally announce the Z1 compact which is the Z1S high end specs and not so large for one hand use made it so appealing to me
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I've thought about the G2 its an awesome device with a huge battery and fits the hand perfectly but i got turned off by the horrible Android layout of LG and the plastic build quality. plus its more expensive than the Z1 Compact & Nexus 5 at least in my country.
I used to love Sony-Ericsson mobile before the Android era and especially now that they finally announce the Z1 compact which is the Z1S high end specs and not so large for one hand use made it so appealing to me
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Why do people keep talking about the Z1S? You know it's just the Z1 with T-Mobile support, plastic frame and a larger body right?
EDIT: The Z1S is literally a cheaper-to-manufacture, higher-margain-for-carrier, version of the Z1.
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Here is my hands on comparison between the two. Maybe that will help you to make up your mind. I would choose the Z1 without a doubt.
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awesome review
Rekoil said:
Why do people keep talking about the Z1S? You know it's just the Z1 with T-Mobile support, plastic frame and a larger body right?
EDIT: The Z1S is literally a cheaper-to-manufacture, higher-margain-for-carrier, version of the Z1.
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Unfortunately that's correct, but the addition of wifi calling is why I have to go with that version. When I step inside my building at work, T-mo drops and I rely on the wifi. The normal Z1 doesn't have it obviously.
I cannot believe they made this BIGGER! I mean, the Z1 is big, but why would this one be bigger? Argh.
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Would you change your Z1 for a Note 3?
I am really considering doing the swap.
This should be posted in General. Anyway, why going for Note 3?
If I could sell my Z1 today, tomorrow I would buy a Note 3 for sure!!!! [email protected]#@$ remorse...
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If I could sell my Z1 today, tomorrow I would buy a Note 3 for sure!!!! [email protected]#@$ remorse...
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What happen with your Z1? mannaia lu purcu...
Nope, not even while high, i mean the screen in the note 3 is awesome but i would never buy another Galaxy device with my own money again
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FiremakerP said:
Would you change your Z1 for a Note 3?
i did it, got 3 defective z1 c6096 with the touchscreen issue and the camera was horrible im very happy with it and the screen size is just perfect. Also more batt life and using a lot the spen only thing i like more was the size of the icons im very very happy with it also phone calls sound lot better and sound is stronger
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No.
my friend has a note 3, it sais he needs to pull the battery out at least once a day since it freezes...
sounds bad to me...
I have a note3 on the way. I will compare and decide. But since I don´t have a tablet and I already had the first Note which I found awesome besides the "looking goofy" when calling I am favoriable to the note3 and since most Bugs are now out of the way I will probably go for it and sell the Z1.
The only drawback will be the camera the Z1 Camera is superior no doubt about that.
If on Kitkat 4.4 for Z1 we will still cannot move the apps to sd I think I will go for Samsung too. Unbelievable but Samsung have this option.
CERO freezes for me in my note 3. excelent smartphone. camera LOT easier to use than z1 that was like a roulette for good pics. like it a lot more. i was in love of Z1 but was the worst phone i have ever had lots of bugs and crappy camera
also front camera is terrible
touch screen bug, too much to say..
Never again sony.
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Nope, not even while high, i mean the screen in the note 3 is awesome but i would never buy another Galaxy device with my own money again
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same as me. I'll never buy any sammy devices again... may be lg(except nexus devices) too.
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You can use adb setpartition to move your apps to sd card
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As long as note 3 runs touchwiz, it's useless.
If you're gonna install aosp ROM or cm, cool.
But then half of the phone will be useless. No s-pen features and all that gimmicky touchwiz stuff.
Stay simple. Stay xperia.
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Moved also to Note 3 after bricking my Z1. As i had a Note 1 before Z1, this was really relaxing for me after messing with Xperia troubles.
I think,i do not want to buy any Sony product for a long time.
My Z1 has been in warranty repair for two months now, this is not good.
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Stay simple. Stay xperia.
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That's a good one.
I'd never buy Samsung device unless it changes it design. Whereas Z1 is gorgeous and it's a pleasure to even look at it, the galaxy line looks like a bunch of "made in china" phones. You guys should try out how much you can flex the back cover of the S4. It's unbelievable.
When I pay premium, then I want to get premium stuff... It's not only the looks, it's the UI, impressive camera, battery life, reception and everything. I'm in love. Never Samsung unless it changes it's design.
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Exynos
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Would you change your Z1 for a Note 3?
I am really considering doing the swap.
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do it
u will love note3
in a month i had both note3 and z1 (then sold z1 for mwc)
but really Note3 is something else
and i have N900-Exynos
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I have a Z Ultra and thinking about getting a Z1 - but before that, had a Note 3... actually sold it a few weeks ago to get the Ultra.
I previously had Notes 1 and 2, got 3 but it was just so boring. Touchwiz really hasn't changed much and slows the phone down despite the fast CPU and 3gb ram. The camera on the Note 3 really sucks for indoor shots without a flash. The Xperia phones just feel so much better, higher build quality than the plastic of the Note 3. The back of mine used to creak every time I picked it up, one of the reasons why I decided to sell it.
Overall, the Note 3 is not a bad phone... but if you want all the S-Pen features, you're gonna have to keep Touchwiz on there.
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do it
u will love note3
in a month i had both note3 and z1 (then sold z1 for mwc)
but really Note3 is something else
and i have N900-Exynos
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100% agree with you.
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What happen with your Z1? mannaia lu purcu...
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First of all let me clarify that I liked the Z1 , but I had the Galaxy S4, exynos version, and have had several problems, so I switch to the Lumia 920, which I hated and now I'm with the Z1. Despite the Z1 is an incredibly fast, fluid and with a great battery smartphone, it has several bugs, for example: faulty microphone, mainly recording on whatsapp, touchscreen has problems almost always, the sound is too low, the camera does not is there all this, expecting more, the screen is a real crap, whitish, very bad at any angle, battery charging is slow, when closing the walkman in the list of recent apps the music stops, or when I pause in the notifications, the notification disappears and no longer appears to play again. Without mention, I miss features of the S4, as all those camera functions, ESPECIALLY the multi-window, better utilization by the edge of the screen, much improvements in the software by Samsung, and also from all sensors. Today I regret having sold the Galaxy S4 and if I could, will be with Note 3. The problem is that I live in Brazil, and here is not easy to switch smartphones due to the extortionate prices.. Sorry bad english, and hope u understand...
Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
slobo2712 said:
Hi all.I want to buy one of these two devices I'm interested what is better choise camera,rom development etc? Tnx in advance
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Build wise
Sony
Camera wise
Sony
Rom wise
Sony
Hope that clears things up for you LOL!
I'm not against Samsung or what ever, not at all.
We can all see what phone is build better. Camera wise, I'd say the S4 is better by default, but if you tweak the XZ's camera it can be better for sure.
Stock rom the XZ also wins. Custom roms.... well in the end they all run on Android, so the difference really isn't that big.
Dsteppa said:
Build wise
Sony
Camera wise
Sony
Rom wise
Sony
Hope that clears things up for you LOL!
I'm not against Samsung or what ever, not at all.
We can all see what phone is build better. Camera wise, I'd say the S4 is better by default, but if you tweak the XZ's camera it can be better for sure.
Stock rom the XZ also wins. Custom roms.... well in the end they all run on Android, so the difference really isn't that big.
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Tnx for clear answer,I've seen some comparisons on youtube about camera and S4 was better when taking picture in day light and low light,but that was old videos with older android,so today is different?btw. I know about build wise there is no doubt...
As a sony funboy,i have to admir that, in low lighf samsunf is way better, but if compare with real life view, samsung looks like crap, greens is not green, blue is not blue. Just crayon colours.
As my tought, samsung's gui looks like cildish, still like android 2.1.
Still i suggest everybody around me to buy samsung. Just to make them suffer. Ahhaha.
For real. Goto one ofe electronic store. Get both of them in your hand. use both of them for awile. With which one you feel better, get it. All new smartphones are powerfull enoght to handle all kind of applications.
Most importand thing is, will you be happy one mounth later you bought device.
Best regards.
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Tnx for clear answer,I've seen some comparisons on youtube about camera and S4 was better when taking picture in day light and low light,but that was old videos with older android,so today is different?btw. I know about build wise there is no doubt...
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I disagree on that one.
I think the XZ is one of the bests when it comes to taking pictures in daylight, when there is barely any light it's one of the worst!!!
Take a look at some pictures I made more then a year ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41689369&postcount=357
That should clear things up for you.
Just don't use the default settings when taking pictures.
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I disagree on that one.
I think the XZ is one of the bests when it comes to taking pictures in daylight, when there is barely any light it's one of the worst!!!
Take a look at some pictures I made more then a year ago:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=41689369&postcount=357
That should clear things up for you.
Just don't use the default settings when taking pictures.
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Really great quality,what about led flash is it good?
slobo2712 said:
Really great quality,what about led flash is it good?
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In my opinion it isn't I just avoid taking pictures in the dark, when using the flash, I prefer to use torch instead of the actual flash. (Torch keeps your led on instead of flashing.)
I was also considering the S4 before I got the Z. What I learned so far:
S4:
+better screen (although a lot of the devices has an issue called purple smearing, some claim it's a software bug, some claim it's hw..who knows; it is certainly better than Z's - which is also pretty good)
+better camera (really isn't much to tell, maybe z1's and z2's can match the S4 camera's quality, Samsung flagships are always stong in this category)
+better harware (no brainer: SnapDragon 600 vs S4 Pro, it is better... avoid the Exynos 8-core one: no LTE)
+more customs ROMs, if you don't care for warranty, there's a world of ROMs to discover on the S4
+more software features (TouchWiz hits hard here, Sony hasn't got anything up against Air Gestures and the many-many more features of S4)
-worse design (Sony Z is really a looker, even looks more sexy than Z1 IMO because of the matte-black skeleton; S4 is just a pile of plastic, and it's round frame is really prone to damage, even a rubber bumper can damage it)
-worse ROM: 4.4.2. is although not quite as streamlined as previous ROMs for the XZ, Samsung even manage to make a worse one for their S4 (quesion here is are they leaving it like that: Samsung-> I don't think so, Sony-> more likely, no announce of bugfix update yet)
-KNOX: it just sucks
I went for the Z, because of the looks....and I'm happy with it
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I was also considering the S4 before I got the Z. What I learned so far:
S4:
+better screen (although a lot of the devices has an issue called purple smearing, some claim it's a software bug, some claim it's hw..who knows; it is certainly better than Z's - which is also pretty good)
+better camera (really isn't much to tell, maybe z1's and z2's can match the S4 camera's quality, Samsung flagships are always stong in this category)
+better harware (no brainer: SnapDragon 600 vs S4 Pro, it is better... avoid the Exynos 8-core one: no LTE)
+more customs ROMs, if you don't care for warranty, there's a world of ROMs to discover on the S4
+more software features (TouchWiz hits hard here, Sony hasn't got anything up against Air Gestures and the many-many more features of S4)
-worse design (Sony Z is really a looker, even looks more sexy than Z1 IMO because of the matte-black skeleton; S4 is just a pile of plastic, and it's round frame is really prone to damage, even a rubber bumper can damage it)
-worse ROM: 4.4.2. is although not quite as streamlined as previous ROMs for the XZ, Samsung even manage to make a worse one for their S4 (quesion here is are they leaving it like that: Samsung-> I don't think so, Sony-> more likely, no announce of bugfix update yet)
-KNOX: it just sucks
I went for the Z, because of the looks....and I'm happy with it
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Really thanx for such answer but even more im not sure what to buy now
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Really thanx for such answer but even more im not sure what to buy now
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Get a G2 if you can:good: they're not that expensive now, better than both (by far)
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Get a G2 if you can:good: they're not that expensive now, better than both (by far)
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LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
Pandemic said:
LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
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oh the Irony...by the way you may want to check and compare the price of the z2 and the lg g2...I think the lg g2 is a bit more..accesible? like the xz and s4
My shop can't get rid of your last G2. Been trying to basically give it away for 2 months.
Sony all the way. Far better than most of the alternatives and you doubt have to deal with that crappy interface Samsung uses.
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LG fanboy here.. Buy then better the Z2
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
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Not at all. I own a Z and I love it, as I've said previously. G2 is just near-the-same price category as Z snd S4 nowadays, that's why I recommended it (by saying get a G2 I automatically became an LG fanboy lol ...clever thinking:good
And yes Z2 is an excellent recommendation for someone who is looking for a smartphone in the price range of the XZ and SGS4
Samsung has Knox, Sony does not, making it much more user friendly when it comes to flashing
Check this out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45666586
No solution in sight for Samsung fanboys
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No I dont like LG phones at all,what is knox?I dont want to buy new phone..?tnx
Dammit you people are hijacking this topic! He want's to know XZ vs S4
Stop confusing him!:silly::silly::angel:
P.S. I haven't forgotten your pictures
The Z looks good, the S4 looks ugly.
Oke straight to the point:
XZ is a piece of art with glass and the 1st flagship of Sony, great in performance and a very nice phone and very good custom roms for it ^^
Samsung GS4:
A piece of plastic, comes from the kids store where they sell toys, worse phone and cant tip on the XZ and touchwiz s*cks
Send from my XZ With My Own Personal Modified MoonWalker SuperB !
I am exploring options for my next phone. What will be your future pick?
I was looking forward to a new sony device, but I am not blown away with the xperia x. But I guess it is still top of my list.
Guids said:
I am exploring options for my next phone. What will be your future pick?
I was looking forward to a new sony device, but I am not blown away with the xperia x. But I guess it is still top of my list.
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Probably a Z5 compact. The Z5 is cheaper but has the same spec as the X.
Sony have the market on small top spec phones. I like a small phone in my hand, not some massive phablet.
Plus it's waterproof and has all the features. Top audio, noise reduction technologies built in. IPS screen, there aren't any other manufacturers that come close.
But it won't be for another year, hopefully by then there will be some development on it and things like rooting will be easy.
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Probably a Z5 compact. The Z5 is cheaper but has the same spec as the X.
Sony have the market on small top spec phones. I like a small phone in my hand, not some massive phablet.
Plus it's waterproof and has all the features. Top audio, noise reduction technologies built in. IPS screen, there aren't any other manufacturers that come close.
But it won't be for another year, hopefully by then there will be some development on it and things like rooting will be easy.
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Yeah unfortunately support on xda is virtually non existent for the z5 (compact). And I do not think it will surge eventually, then it would have happened already. It is also the main reason why I didn't switch earlier. But yeah.. Xda support is really important for me since I like to tweak certain aspects
I am going with the Huawei P9 Plus. It will be a step up from the z3c in a few areas. First off, the P9 has 4gb of ram, so multitasking is easier, and the chipset is a solid foundation as well. The z3c has a higher megapixel camera 20mp vs the 12mp P9 Plus. The P9 Plus is almost an inch bigger in size 4.6 vs 5.5 but I still think that it does not qualify as ( as Didgesteve called it ) a phablet.
Nokia's (the Finnish company) non compete clause expires next month, so in 8 days I believe, I'm waiting to see what they bring to market - I bet it'll be good - they've had years to prepare.
A Galaxy Note 6/7 or a Nexus phone. My biggest priorities are vanilla, lag free, good battery and waterproof. If google makes a nice Nexus that's waterproof and has good battery, lag and vanilla are given. For the Note, I'm not so sure about the UI. But my Z3C has become laggy as of late, even with a factory reset. Constantly at 1.6-1.9 gb memory usage.
Xiaomi Mi 5 is cheap and really rocks!!! :good:
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Xiaomi Mi 5 is cheap and really rocks!!! :good:
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Definitely not Z5 Compact, I'd rather wait for the Xperia X to have a compact version than buy a phone with barely any support from the community and not to mention Snapdragon 810 Problems
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Xiaomi Mi 5 is cheap and really rocks!!! :good:
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I ways also looking forward to this. But that video showing that it breaks easily scared me off. The camera is also underwhelming.
I like specs from oneplus 3, but it is just too damn big.
Much as i like the z3c for it's size and specs, my next phone will most likely be a nexus.
While Sony's firmware isn't bad i do miss the variety of 3rd party, AOSP based roms, something that a nexus won't lack thanks to the open bootloader and abundance of developers.
For now, until we know anything about the next Nexus devices, i just hope the PA team will manage to resolve some of the more pressing bugs, a daily-driver aosp MM rom might just keep me around for a bit longer.
Definitely not a Xperia!!
i switched from z3 compact to iphone SE
I went from a HTC Desire to a HTC Sensation, then a Xperia ZR and I have enjoyed my Z3 Compact since October, 2014. I wanted a new Xperia for the summer of 2016, something like the Z6 Compact but the new Xperia X series is not what I wanted.
The only Xperia X I wanted is the X Performance but it has failed to pique my interest. Battery tests look underwhelming compared to the Z3C, the camera isn't up to the other flagships and the price is too high for a smartphone that wont' be released in Europe until July.
So I have jumped ship and went to buy an S7 Edge that features great battery, screen, camera, waterproofing and Material themes so TouchWiz isn't annoying. Maybe the screen is too big at 5.5", but the AMOLED readability in summer is top-notch and the pictures and videos taken are miles better than any other phone camera I tried.
The S7 Edge was 570 euro including the Samsung VR glasses (thanks to Vodafone). The Xperia X Performance hasn't been released yet, but I expect it to cost around 630-650 euro.
Sony has failed me first choosing the SD 810 for the Z5 line and now leaving the Z series aside (Z6 Compact, Z6 and Z6 Premium was what I wanted).
I may return to Sony when they offer something that fills the void of the Z series, not right now with overpriced phones that are released too late.
I get my Nexus 5X tomorrow! YAY! Not the newest device, but almost anything seems to be better to me than any Xperia. I really like the Nexus line. If I hadn't been that misinformed by Sony about being open blabla I would have bought a Nexus instead of an Xperia. Actually using a Z3C, going to sell it as soon as I was finally able to recover DRM with Windows 10 or Linux (Arch). So my Nexus 5X will cost me about 100 Euro. Nice price for a quite decent upgrade of camera and processor (Snapdragon 801 --> Snapdragon 808) and for a device I can fully customize and which got amazing support in FOSS community / XDA.
I think smartphones today are really fast (more than 200 (!!) times faster than my first PC., an Intel 80386. Imagine 200 PCs in your room, haha) and it's not top priority for me to have the fastest device in the whole universe. What counts for me is that the device is fast enough to be ready for daily usage, that I can modify my device to my needs without losing any feature (camera quality, sound quality), not the needs a company wants me to have... and to have a good camera (battery of the Nexus 5X is not the best but acceptable). At first I was quite satisfied with my Z3C but that slowly turned into frustration and anger. It took months to root this unholy device without losing DRM forever (thank God for the dev that finally got it!). Afterwards it was a pain in the ass to do such simple things like rooting it, install recovery (compared to my S3 and Nexus 7; atm trying to recover my DRM for selling this crappy device but ADB won't call SuperSU - wtf?!)... then saw how "good" the open-source output of the so-called developer-friendly company was and I was massively disappointed, to say it in very kind words. Still there is no fully working (--> fisheye) AOSP for Z3 series. Lollipop got fisheye, CM13 for MM is not available yet (LOL?! The only manufacturer left... what a shame) because Sony released first MM working stuff (RIL, camera) in May 2016 afaik) - more than half a year after release of MM. That's what I call developer-friendly... lol. I never gonna buy any Xperia anymore, never in a million years, that's for sure, and try to avoid buying anything made by Sony in general.
Now I'm very glad to get a Nexus (I'm still very satisfied with my Nexus 7 2013 already) because the needs of the user and customizability are top priority and it has a very good cam, which won't produce (reverse) fisheye-pictures when unlocked. I won't need to use stock ROM for this device to be fully working, nor a locked BL and a thousand hacks for stock to be comfortable with (still no dark settings for MM stock, only eye-killing whiteness). Feels like not being in bonds any more...
My brother and my sister-in-law both got the same device (Z3C stock, not rooted) and are very satisfied (for whatever reason... camera on stock with DRM is even worse than on my old Galaxy S3)... so, well. For everyone who still likes Xperia, I wish you the best with that, honestly.
Good riddance, Sony...
is there any phone out there with similar dimensions to the z3 compact? i would like waterproofing as well, but not sure what's out there these days. i have to admit i love the concept rom
tronjojo said:
is there any phone out there with similar dimensions to the z3 compact? i would like waterproofing as well, but not sure what's out there these days. i have to admit i love the concept rom
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Z5 Compact
deniz2694 said:
i switched from z3 compact to iphone SE
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I know a lot of ppl that had made that switch and was satisfied about it
I'm looking for the best smartphone that does not tells itself that the system was been tampered if i root and modify something (Like KNOX or HTC do tell it), because if i want to bring my warranty back, i simply re-flash the firmware and it become unrooted.
No idea. I will be sticking with my Z3c for the foreseeable future.
I recently purchased a Galaxy s6 and was missing my Z3c within a few days. I have also recently used the LG G4 and Nexus 5x. All of these feel like a step down. The Z3c with the MM Slim rom is so fast and fluid and the battery life is ridiculous. The galaxy S6 could kill itself in 12 hours with almost no interaction. Also, it is hard to go back to a phone as large as those. Once you put a case on them, you may as well be using a tablet.
I would go for OnePlus 3 right now, but it's huge, i just don't get the hype for 5.5" screen, that requires your device body to have more than 15cm in size. All of a sudden 5" was not enough so they all had to go for more, not to mention big bezels on top and bottom of the screen even on those 5-5.2" devices.
Are people still enjoying the Z3+ (E6553)? I read it has Nougat and I want that. My last good phone was a Note 3, but Samsungs have a variety of issues like GPS and dead screens (not to mention exploding batteries) so I am looking at Sony. What do people think?
First of all, the phone is still on Marshmallow, and battery is awful and heat as well, there isn't much development so NO
Hell NO, stay away from this piece of sh*t.
If I returned back to purchasing point, I would grab a nexus 5x over this one. Right now there are numerous great offers and I don't recommend this one.
if a friend dosent play games its really good.
but if a friend would play pokemon go (just for example) an old samsung s3 would be better.
Worst phone, ever.
wow, thanks. Are any Sony phones good?
Also the sony website says the phone is getting Nougat. Is it not out yet?
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2016/08/23/sony-xperia-and-android-7-0-nougat/
X
X performance
XZ
I don't own any of those, but they all seem good.
I bought the z3 plus for my girlfriend over the summer. Haven't had any issues with it. She plays the occasional game or two. But mostly uses it for Facebook, spotify and texting. Battery life is pretty good. Easily lasts a full day. Finally, haven't noticed any heating issues either. Sony definitely fixed the heating issues that were present when the device first came out. I would recommend the z3 plus if you can get it for a good price.
Got z3+ half a year ago. Using fot twitter, instagram, phone and playing ingress. Got 4-5 hours of ingress, no overheating. I would recommend.
overheating is not happening for me because i just check telegram and instagram but battery is really bad! z5 has the same battery but it is really better than z3+,plz go find something else,if you can buy it i suggest z5,its really good and after you buy sony phone i say you will never buy another companys phone bro
i LOVE the z4/z3+ and heat, for me, is now gone... perfect ( for me ) form factor, awesome screen... I feel like Z4 is THE pinnacle of Xperia's design language, the last flagship to bear the iconic power button.
...the battery life not as great when compared to other newer Xperia offerings which are now already coming down in price. Camera is ok in daylight.
Huge fan... have recently made x compact my daily, mostly for camera and battery,
and have XZ as well, but still prefer the in-hand feel of Z4 and will never get rid of it.
no Nougat.
Carlito17_2000 said:
Are people still enjoying the Z3+ (E6553)? I read it has Nougat and I want that. My last good phone was a Note 3, but Samsungs have a variety of issues like GPS and dead screens (not to mention exploding batteries) so I am looking at Sony. What do people think?
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Sony Phones are just fancy phones. They all are appealing look. But their build sucks. I prefer Samsung over Sony and now a days OPPO phones are better than both Sony and Samsung.
You're in the minority, but I appreciate the opinion
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i LOVE the z4/z3+ and heat, for me, is now gone... perfect ( for me ) form factor, awesome screen... I feel like Z4 is THE pinnacle of Xperia's design language, the last flagship to bear the iconic power button.
...the battery life not as great when compared to other newer Xperia offerings which are now already coming down in price. Camera is ok in daylight.
Huge fan... have recently made x compact my daily, mostly for camera and battery,
and have XZ as well, but still prefer the in-hand feel of Z4 and will never get rid of it.
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I might go LG instead