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What is the past of least resistance to root a 4.4 tmo X? In order to keep data, is it still that insanely long process?
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WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.

KidJoe said:
WIth the T-Mobile variant you have two choices to root..
1. Unlock bootloader, flash twrp recovery, boot into twrp and install SU (or use TWRP's option to root). But this voids your warranty (since you don't have the developer edition), and unlocking the boot loader will wipe your device and data.
2. Use SlapMyMoto which has a lot of manual steps, and you need to reboot to "recovery" (well its modified and you don't have recovery), when you want R/W ability. (Or you have to also do the MotoWpNoMo process to gain R/W full time). But this has many steps.
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thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?

km8j said:
thanks - re #1, will upgrades be painful i.e., new OTAs?
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OTA's will be more painful with #2 as there will be more to restore to stock. And of course the unknowns of if the new OTA will be rootable or not, and how long before a root process comes out.
For #1, you should be able to just put stock recovery back and take the OTA, then reflash TWRP and re-root.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
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Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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km8j said:
Just following up. There is still no easy root method right?
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Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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flashallthetime said:
Can't be any easier than unlocking your bootloader ,flash recovery and install superuser. 3 simple steps from my perspective
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Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto

xpsychox said:
Unless u have Dev. Edition u cannot unlock boot loader.. I'm on 4.4 and I am fully rooted.
Slapped my Moto
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You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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Same with Rogers, only versions that can't unlock are Verizon and AT&T consumer version
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quickstang said:
You can unlock the Sprint & Tmo version. No dev edition required.
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I knew u couldn't do on at and Verizon...but he also never said what he had..not that I saw
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and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?

DanRo80 said:
and what if you have the T-Mobile Moto X, haven't got the email to unlock bootloader and you can't get adb to recognize device?
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There was another thread about this... Guy said he used a new gmail account and got email
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Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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km8j said:
Just bumping to see if there are any new reasonable ways of rooting kitkat?
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Well, if you don't have an unlocked bootloader, SlapMyMoto (which now incorporates the MotoWpNoMo process into its steps) is the only way (there have been some efforts to consolidate/automate the process). And may not be usable if you're already on 4.4.2 (taking the 4.4.2 OTA update or flashing the full 4.4.2 SBF prevents you from flashing older ROMs which is a crucial step in using SlapMyMoto).
I've not see a 4.4.2 specific root process for locked bootloaders yet, but to be honest, I have a unlocked bootloader, so I haven't been completely paying attention.
If you have an unlocked bootloader, root process is still the same.

there is not going to be any new way to root 4.4 is not going to get a new exploit because 4.4.2 is out and Devs are working on finding a way to root it so the people with locked bootloaders can update.
if you want to root your device you have allready been giving the only 2 ways to do it
Locked bootloader - SlapMyMoto
Unlocked bootloader - Customer Recovery and SUPERSU
please dont bump your thread for info you allready have.
here is a link to both guides for both methods and a guide for unlocking your bootloader.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358

[Q] getting root/TWRP on T-mobile Moto X without unlocking BL?

Hey guys,
So I have a t-mobile moto x and I want to get root and TWRP on it without unlocking the bootloader. (for warranty purposes)
I know that root is possible, I found these 2 threads, but which one do I use?\
[4.4 ROOT] SlapMyMoto 1.0 (Works with MotoWPNoMo)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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[kill write protection] MotoWpNoMo
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2551113
which one would also allow me to get TWRP on the device? Thank you very much

No unlocked bootloader, no TWRP.

Too just Root, you would use SlapMyMoto first, then you could use MotoWPNoMo.
But as nhizzat posted, without an unlocked bootloader, you can't install TWRP.

You can install safestrap that way, which is based on twep
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2556400
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I used to use safestrap on my Droid 3 and Droid 4, and it was REALLY nice. Onlt issue I see is that there isn't a ton of safestrap development on this phone (unless I missed something)

My bootloader is unlocked, am I supposed to use Jcase's SlapMyMoto or just install SuperSu?

Demorthus said:
My bootloader is unlocked, am I supposed to use Jcase's SlapMyMoto or just install SuperSu?
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If your bootloader is already unlocked... just flash TWRP and install SuperSU.. see -> https://plus.google.com/110773150384694258853/posts/VhtJtg92sTP

Non rooted rom

Is there any non rooted roms for 4.4.4 locked boot loader that would work for our phone?

cell2011 said:
Is there any non rooted roms for 4.4.4 locked boot loader that would work for our phone?
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what is your model number ? you need SBF/FXZ's files. Look and find
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0

I am not sure I understand the question... But if you mean member created roms , no... You need an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery in most cases.
If you are on 4.4 or 4.2.2...you can root without unlocking the bootloader with slapmymoto. Its in the development section. And you can use safestrap to flash compatible roms.
If you are on 4.4.2 or higher, you need an unlocked bootloader and custom recovery to flash roms.

I have 4.4.4 not unlocked boot loader. Att model

Then you have the latest firmware. You can't downgrade it, so you know. Not without possibly bricking.
And you can't root it with a locked bootloader. Not as of right now.
You could look into the China Middleman. There's a thread in general about this. 45 to unlock, if he had a code for your device.
At the moment, that's your only option to get root.
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Oh, so to directly answer you... No... No roms for you.

[Q] 5.0 and rooting on locked device

Hey,
So as mentioned in the large "How to root" thread, any update after 4.4.3 will essentially make your device unrootable (or unwritable).
I have the xt1058, which is one of the devices with a locked bootloader. This device is also compatible with Android 5.0, so I was wondering if I flash a captured OTA of 5.0 for the xt1058, will that lock out my bootloader and ensure that I can never root again?
Thanks!

5.0 > 4.4.3 so logic would lead me to say yes, you're stuck running stock.

If you are locked, you will not be able to Root on 5.0 for now, or for awhile.... If ever.
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Once it comes out of course.
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if you really want to Root.... Best to not update, as they may figure out how to Root kit Kat and not Lollipop. Usually how it goes.

themsftcpu said:
Hey,
So as mentioned in the large "How to root" thread, any update after 4.4.3 will essentially make your device unrootable (or unwritable).
I have the xt1058, which is one of the devices with a locked bootloader. This device is also compatible with Android 5.0, so I was wondering if I flash a captured OTA of 5.0 for the xt1058, will that lock out my bootloader and ensure that I can never root again?
Thanks!
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Not sure what you mean by "flash a captured OTA" but with a locked bootloader all you can flash is a ROM or OTA which is digitally signed by Moto and meant for your phone and its CID value. In other words, you can't capture an OTA zip file, modify, repack it and flash it to include Root, if you have a locked bootloader.
If you want usable root on the X you need two parts 1. Root Exploit, and 2. An Exploit that allows for disabling Write Protection.
If you have a locked bootloader you need someone to find these exploits and create a repeatable process to use them to gain root and disabling write protection. You basically need to find and exploit a flaw or vulnerability in the phone, or its software. i.e. Hack It.
When Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader, or the state you are in after you install 4.4.2), any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on.
On a locked bootloader you are relying on someone finding vulnerabilities in the phone or its software to both root and disable write protection. Period. No way around that.
As it stands right now, no one has released info on any vulnerabilities which could gain root on a locked bootloader 2013 X which have been upgraded to 4.4.4. So there is no process for rooting those locked bootloader phones.
While JCASE's Sunshine tool can exploit a vulnerability to unlock the bootloader (disabling write protection), it needs to be able to ROOT, or Temp Root, the phone first, which leaves out phones on 4.4.4 (unless I've missed a change recently). (and before you ask, no, you can NOT safely downgrade from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 or lower, nor can you get to a state where Sunshine will work once you have 4.4.4 on your phone.)
With further security enhancements as android evolves, its only going to get more difficult finding vulnerabilities to exploit and creating repeatable processes for those with locked bootloaders. In other words while there might be a chance someone comes up with something for locked bootloader 2013 X's on Lollipop, I wouldn't count on it happening, nor would I "bet the farm" that it will ever happen.

KidJoe said:
Not sure what you mean by "flash a captured OTA" but with a locked bootloader all you can flash is a ROM or OTA which is digitally signed by Moto and meant for your phone and its CID value. In other words, you can't capture an OTA zip file, modify, repack it and flash it to include Root, if you have a locked bootloader.
If you want usable root on the X you need two parts 1. Root Exploit, and 2. An Exploit that allows for disabling Write Protection.
If you have a locked bootloader you need someone to find these exploits and create a repeatable process to use them to gain root and disabling write protection. You basically need to find and exploit a flaw or vulnerability in the phone, or its software. i.e. Hack It.
When Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader, or the state you are in after you install 4.4.2), any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on.
On a locked bootloader you are relying on someone finding vulnerabilities in the phone or its software to both root and disable write protection. Period. No way around that.
As it stands right now, no one has released info on any vulnerabilities which could gain root on a locked bootloader 2013 X which have been upgraded to 4.4.4. So there is no process for rooting those locked bootloader phones.
While JCASE's Sunshine tool can exploit a vulnerability to unlock the bootloader (disabling write protection), it needs to be able to ROOT, or Temp Root, the phone first, which leaves out phones on 4.4.4 (unless I've missed a change recently). (and before you ask, no, you can NOT safely downgrade from 4.4.4 to 4.4.2 or lower, nor can you get to a state where Sunshine will work once you have 4.4.4 on your phone.)
With further security enhancements as android evolves, its only going to get more difficult finding vulnerabilities to exploit and creating repeatable processes for those with locked bootloaders. In other words while there might be a chance someone comes up with something for locked bootloader 2013 X's on Lollipop, I wouldn't count on it happening, nor would I "bet the farm" that it will ever happen.
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What about using safestrap? I also own a locked moto x and am currently running a rooted 4.4.4 ROM via safestrap.
Would this be possible to do with lollipop while retaining root?

frenchie007 said:
What about using safestrap? I also own a locked moto x and am currently running a rooted 4.4.4 ROM via safestrap.
Would this be possible to do with lollipop while retaining root?
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You'll likely still need to find a software vulnerability to exploit to gain root. And if Lillipop uses a new Kernel (which is does) it may not be compatible with the current Safestrap. And Hash stopped developing Safestrap.
That being said.. Safe strap requires the host phone/os be rooted with write protection disabled. So if you are running Safestrap on a 2013 X, you likely have Android 4.4 or lower as your host OS and have used something like SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto along with MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection on your host OS. If this is the case, use Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. It will be much easier.

KidJoe said:
You'll likely still need to find a software vulnerability to exploit to gain root. And if Lillipop uses a new Kernel (which is does) it may not be compatible with the current Safestrap. And Hash stopped developing Safestrap.
That being said.. Safe strap requires the host phone/os be rooted with write protection disabled. So if you are running Safestrap on a 2013 X, you likely have Android 4.4 or lower as your host OS and have used something like SlapMyMoto/RockMyMoto along with MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection on your host OS. If this is the case, use Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. It will be much easier.
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Yep, I was holding out on unlocking with sunshine but seems like its necessary to keep root for lollipop. Thanks!

frenchie007 said:
Yep, I was holding out on unlocking with sunshine but seems like its necessary to keep root for lollipop. Thanks!
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Why would you ever wait to unlock your bootloader if you're able to? You wouldn't have to worry about any of this with an unlocked bootloader.

nhizzat said:
Why would you ever wait to unlock your bootloader if you're able to? You wouldn't have to worry about any of this with an unlocked bootloader.
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My only guess would be.... he is still under warranty and isn't in a hurry to void it?

nhizzat said:
Why would you ever wait to unlock your bootloader if you're able to? You wouldn't have to worry about any of this with an unlocked bootloader.
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KidJoe said:
My only guess would be.... he is still under warranty and isn't in a hurry to void it?
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Because sunshine costs money and yes, I'm in no hurry to unlock it (until lollipop comes along that is)

frenchie007 said:
Because sunshine costs money and yes, I'm in no hurry to unlock it (until lollipop comes along that is)
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Just keep in mind.... As soon as you update to 4.4.4 or Lollipop, There's no guarantee you'll ever be able to unlock with Sunshine.
You likely know this... But just checking. ?

Darth said:
Just keep in mind.... As soon as you update to 4.4.4 or Lollipop, There's no guarantee you'll ever be able to unlock with Sunshine.
You likely know this... But just checking. ��
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using safestrap to flash only parts of 4.4.4 (excluding bootloader if I'm not mistaken) allows me to retain full root even on 4.4.4 even with a locked bootloader. however from what I understand you're right this won't be possible for lollipop :/

frenchie007 said:
using safestrap to flash only parts of 4.4.4 (excluding bootloader if I'm not mistaken) allows me to retain full root even on 4.4.4. however from what I understand you're right this won't be possible for lollipop
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Maybe it could..... But based on the issues I've seen in the N5 section, likely not. Lollipop probably won't play well with anything kit Kat or earlier.
Pretty hard to test too... Who knows what would happen if you tried. Also, who knows when or if SBF files will turn up.
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Off topic.... But I will feel bad for anyone who has Lollipop complaints and tries downgrading. Could be the end of their device.
Unless moto changes that quirk with their bootloader.

Root without unlock bootloader?

I am a newbie for nexus lineup. I am going to jump to N6 from oneplus one. As far as i know from search, every post says N6 can only root after unlock bootloader. So i just want to know can i root without unlock bootloader? And is it possible to get update OS from OTA after bootloader unlock?
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aungkhaingoo said:
I am a newbie for nexus lineup. I am going to jump to N6 from oneplus one. As far as i know from search, every post says N6 can only root after unlock bootloader. So i just want to know can i root without unlock bootloader? And is it possible to get update OS from OTA?
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you cant root your device without unlocking the bootloader. to root, you need to flash a custom recovery, then flash the supersu.zip file. none of which tou can do with a locked bootloader. in order to flash a custom recovery, you need to unlick the bootloader. and you will get an ota with root, but you cant apply it, so its pointless.

aungkhaingoo said:
I am a newbie for nexus lineup. I am going to jump to N6 from oneplus one. As far as i know from search, every post says N6 can only root after unlock bootloader. So i just want to know can i root without unlock bootloader? And is it possible to get update OS from OTA after bootloader unlock?
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You may be able to do this by using chainfire's autoroot tool. But why the reluctance to unlock? It's not difficult. Unlocked bootloader has no effect on accepting OTA. On the other hand, root will prevent you from accepting OTA. It's easy to fastboot flash back to stock when a new OTA becomes available. And it's even easier to download the Google factory images and fastboot flash them. Plenty of "how to" threads on the general section.
With that said, the only reason I can see for not unlocking your bootloader would be if your employer has restrictions, or your are really worried about someone stealing your device and getting your personal information.
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simms22 said:
you cant root your device without unlocking the bootloader. to root, you need to flash a custom recovery, then flash the supersu.zip file. none of which tou can do with a locked bootloader. in order to flash a custom recovery, you need to unlick the bootloader. and you will get an ota with root, but you cant apply it, so its pointless.
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I seem to be walking in your footsteps today. Sorry about that.

cam30era said:
You may be able to do this by using chainfire's autoroot tool. But why the reluctance to unlock? It's not difficult. Unlocked bootloader has no effect on accepting OTA. On the other hand, root will prevent you from accepting OTA. It's easy to fastboot flash back to stock when a new OTA becomes available. And it's even easier to download the Google factory images and fastboot flash them. Plenty of "how to" threads on the general section.
With that said, the only reason I can see for not unlocking your bootloader would be if your employer has restrictions, or your are really worried about someone stealing your device and getting your personal information.
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I seem to be walking in your footsteps today. Sorry about that.
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na, thats ok, even great! im just bored at work at the moment, lol