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Is this device brickeable?

Hi!
I just got this phone today (Finally!) and i love it, but i want to get rid of all the bloatware from installed there by my carrier company, so i need to root the phone, right? I'd also love to flash ROM when we finally get some...
But my question here is... How birckeable is the xt890? Are all the rooting methods posted here safe?
Do we have any un-brick methods such as with NVflash?
Thanks!

Charlie.igg said:
Hi!
I just got this phone today (Finally!) and i love it, but i want to get rid of all the bloatware from installed there by my carrier company, so i need to root the phone, right? I'd also love to flash ROM when we finally get some...
But my question here is... How birckeable is the xt890? Are all the rooting methods posted here safe?
Do we have any un-brick methods such as with NVflash?
Thanks!
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Yes, you need to root to remove bloat included in your ~/system/app/ and ~/system/vendor/app/ folders. Easiet way is flashing a different fastboot XML file to a bloat-free carrier (like Retail EU or Retail GB).
As long as you do not go out of your way to remove both the bootloader and the bootloader backup file you won't be bricking.
We have plenty of fastboot restore files, but many require you to be unlocked bootloader to use. Honestly, I see people "brick" here from time to time and its because they never unlocked their bootloader.
None of the rooting methods will brick you or have a risk of it. Unlocking it is the least painful way to do so, motofail2go requires button combos and can be confusing.
We do have a ROM, but the guy posting (papi92) resides over at DroidRZR.com, if you want to test it I would PM him here or whatever you want.
We unbrick with fastboot. I have never broken fastboot and don't want to try
Enjoy your new device, remember though that Questions go into the Q&A forum.

mattlgroff said:
Yes, you need to root to remove bloat included in your ~/system/app/ and ~/system/vendor/app/ folders. Easiet way is flashing a different fastboot XML file to a bloat-free carrier (like Retail EU or Retail GB).
As long as you do not go out of your way to remove both the bootloader and the bootloader backup file you won't be bricking.
We have plenty of fastboot restore files, but many require you to be unlocked bootloader to use. Honestly, I see people "brick" here from time to time and its because they never unlocked their bootloader.
None of the rooting methods will brick you or have a risk of it. Unlocking it is the least painful way to do so, motofail2go requires button combos and can be confusing.
We do have a ROM, but the guy posting (papi92) resides over at DroidRZR.com, if you want to test it I would PM him here or whatever you want.
We unbrick with fastboot. I have never broken fastboot and don't want to try
Enjoy your new device, remember though that Questions go into the Q&A forum.
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Thank you very much for your reply.
I'm already rooted and have removed all bloatware, and are super happy with the device.
I was however unable to unlock my bootloader, this because when I enter the IMEI-related code corresponding to my phone on the Motorola webpage, it tells me that my device is not a candidate to get its bootloader unlocked.
This is why i had to root with Motofail2go. Im guessing not having my bootloader unlocked will be a big obstacle in the future when new ROMs start coming out. is that right=?

You should definitely grap Mattlgroffs Root Keeper Port for the i! If your BL isn't unlockable, you will lose root as soon as you get an OTA Update. The new OTA's are NOT rootable with Motofail2go!
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HSD-Pilot said:
You should definitely grap Mattlgroffs Root Keeper Port for the i! If your BL isn't unlockable, you will lose root as soon as you get an OTA Update. The new OTA's are NOT rootable with Motofail2go!
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Ok! thanks for the tip!

Any ROMs for this version "locked

Everyone seems to be on the 4.4.2 update
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You need to root first, then ROMs. ?

Already rooted and safe strapped. Just know that on previous devices if you flash a lot different kernel on a locked BL The device was rendered paper weight status
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There's a few ROMs in the Dev section. Not many, as most seem to prefer keeping the unique moto features and run stock and customize with xposed and gravity box.
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Cm and aosp ROMs don't have moto features I should have said.

If I unlock and root my VZW Moto X via the Chinese middle-man method and then install Xposed + GravityBox, can I still accept future OTAs without losing root, without losing BL unlocked, and without breaking Xposed?

As long as your unlocked you can flash custom recovery and flash and radio/system/etc.
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jamesino said:
If I unlock and root my VZW Moto X via the Chinese middle-man method and then install Xposed + GravityBox, can I still accept future OTAs without losing root, without losing BL unlocked, and without breaking Xposed?
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Short version. Once you unlock the bootloader, you'd have to manually issuing fastboot oem lock will relock the bootloader. Yes, once rooted you can install Xposed and Gravity Box. Future OTA's require you have stock recovery, and be as close to stock as possible (all bloat there, proper/unmodified system files, etc). You will likely have to DISABLE Xposed. You will likely have to re-root, which is easy when your bootloader is unlocked or you have the code to unlock it.
For more details, Read -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm it will answer your questions, and more about unlocking. And -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-OTA.html will answer your questions about taking an OTA in the future.

[Q] 4.4.2 root

Please excuse my ignorance on this topic. My rooted moto x broke and I just bought a used one. The new phone is running 4.4.2 baseband MSM8960PRO_BP_2323.031.111.OOR KERNAL 3.4.43-G27DE6975.
The last time I rooted my moto withe the cracked screened I restored back to the pre camera updata and then eventually proceeded with the slapmymoto.
Can this still be done on my current phone. I have read some conflicting threads on this
Thanks!!!

4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?

A2Trip said:
4.4.2 cannot downgrade please don't try or you will 100% brick your X. What carrier are you on?
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AT&T

Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623

A2Trip said:
Dont think AT&T can have unlocked bootloaders but that's easiest way to gain root access. But in development should be an exploit for 4.4.X I'll post a link. : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2771623
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Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.

Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol

pooler00 said:
Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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If you haven't already, check on the thread titled "China Middleman Back??" in the general sub-forum. He is selling bootloader-unlock codes for AT&T and Verizon devices. He may or may not have your code, but if not you get refunded...so no risk.
If he does, it will be absolutely fantastic for you because you won't have to rely on these exploits, and will gain permanent root-ability.
@A2Trip is completely correct in that you WILL brick your phone if you attempt to downgrade.
The middleman is your only hope.
Good Luck :good:
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A2Trip said:
Okay so UL BL is available for AT&T? Unlock on motos site first and get code. Once unlocked you can flash TWRP or CWM through fastboot reboot to recovery and when you reboot system it will root for you. Boom! lol
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No. At least not from the official Moto site. Both AT&T and Verizon FORBID Moto from giving out unlock codes for their branded phones.

Got it. USC got love...that sucks.

A2Trip said:
Got it. USC got love...that sucks.
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Agreed.
There IS a "temp-root" method already available for 4.4.2 (4.4.3+ patches it). It's the PIE exploit.
BUT!!! It is temp-only, does not allow write access to /system, does not disable write-protect, and the exploit must be run again (from ADB, so you must attach to a PC) each time you reboot...
So not very useful at all :/
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pooler00 said:
Thanks!! before I cracked the screen on my old one I had the boot loader unlocked and root access......this sucks.
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You didn't have the BL unlocked if you were using SlapMyMoto - you were using a write-protect-disable exploit. BIG difference. If at any point you would have updated to 4.4.2+, you would have permanently lost root and write-protect-disable. Bootloader unlock is permanent. None of the exploits are.
Also, I KNOW someone is going to say it: Questions belong in the Q&A forum, not General. Your thread will probably be moved by a moderator..... In the future, be sure to post in the correct forums.

You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.

gunvalk said:
You're only option that I'm aware of would be pie root ( http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/orig-development/root-4-4-x-pie-motorola-devices-t2771623 ). It's a tethered root though so rebooting your phone will lose root access. Also no system write.
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??? Already stated in post #4 AND post #9

[Q] 4.4.4 Carrier locked VZW, unlock bootloader?

I've been reading threads and found a bunch of unlock bootloader/root threads. It seems that people could unlock bootloaders, but then lost the ability with new OTA updates. I'm not entirely sure if that's the current latest info.
If I have a carrier locked (VZW) moto X, on 4.4.4 - is there any way to currently unlock bootloader? Do I even need to unlock the bootloader? Goal is to root/put TWRP on it with CM11.
Could I RSDlite to an older rom, and then use the guides?
Thanks!

jellysweep said:
I've been reading threads and found a bunch of unlock bootloader/root threads. It seems that people could unlock bootloaders, but then lost the ability with new OTA updates. I'm not entirely sure if that's the current latest info.
If I have a carrier locked (VZW) moto X, on 4.4.4 - is there any way to currently unlock bootloader? Do I even need to unlock the bootloader? Goal is to root/put TWRP on it with CM11.
Could I RSDlite to an older rom, and then use the guides?
Thanks!
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If you have the regular Verizon Moto X and not the Developer Edition you'll have to try and get an unlock code via Chinese Middleman.

jellysweep said:
I've been reading threads and found a bunch of unlock bootloader/root threads. It seems that people could unlock bootloaders, but then lost the ability with new OTA updates. I'm not entirely sure if that's the current latest info.
If I have a carrier locked (VZW) moto X, on 4.4.4 - is there any way to currently unlock bootloader? Do I even need to unlock the bootloader? Goal is to root/put TWRP on it with CM11.
Could I RSDlite to an older rom, and then use the guides?
Thanks!
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People never had the ability to unlock their bootloaders (except through the "middleman") - they were able to disable write protect using an exploit. The exploit was patched in the 4.4.2 update. The exploit never allowed you to flash custom roms. Only "safestrap-compatible, stock-based roms".
As the previous posted suggested - check out the thread in general titled "China Middleman Back??" - it is currently your only hope. Yes, you MUST unlock your bootloader to use TWRP or any custom ROMS.
DO NOT attempt to "downgrade" or use RSD Lite to flash an older version. You WILL brick your device if you attempt this.

samwathegreat said:
People never had the ability to unlock their bootloaders (except through the "middleman") - they were able to disable write protect using an exploit. The exploit was patched in the 4.4.2 update. The exploit never allowed you to flash custom roms. Only "safestrap-compatible, stock-based roms".
As the previous posted suggested - check out the thread in general titled "China Middleman Back??" - it is currently your only hope. Yes, you MUST unlock your bootloader to use TWRP or any custom ROMS.
DO NOT attempt to "downgrade" or use RSD Lite to flash an older version. You WILL brick your device if you attempt this.
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Disappointing news, but thanks for the info guys!

Root without unlock bootloader?

I am a newbie for nexus lineup. I am going to jump to N6 from oneplus one. As far as i know from search, every post says N6 can only root after unlock bootloader. So i just want to know can i root without unlock bootloader? And is it possible to get update OS from OTA after bootloader unlock?
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aungkhaingoo said:
I am a newbie for nexus lineup. I am going to jump to N6 from oneplus one. As far as i know from search, every post says N6 can only root after unlock bootloader. So i just want to know can i root without unlock bootloader? And is it possible to get update OS from OTA?
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you cant root your device without unlocking the bootloader. to root, you need to flash a custom recovery, then flash the supersu.zip file. none of which tou can do with a locked bootloader. in order to flash a custom recovery, you need to unlick the bootloader. and you will get an ota with root, but you cant apply it, so its pointless.

aungkhaingoo said:
I am a newbie for nexus lineup. I am going to jump to N6 from oneplus one. As far as i know from search, every post says N6 can only root after unlock bootloader. So i just want to know can i root without unlock bootloader? And is it possible to get update OS from OTA after bootloader unlock?
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You may be able to do this by using chainfire's autoroot tool. But why the reluctance to unlock? It's not difficult. Unlocked bootloader has no effect on accepting OTA. On the other hand, root will prevent you from accepting OTA. It's easy to fastboot flash back to stock when a new OTA becomes available. And it's even easier to download the Google factory images and fastboot flash them. Plenty of "how to" threads on the general section.
With that said, the only reason I can see for not unlocking your bootloader would be if your employer has restrictions, or your are really worried about someone stealing your device and getting your personal information.
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simms22 said:
you cant root your device without unlocking the bootloader. to root, you need to flash a custom recovery, then flash the supersu.zip file. none of which tou can do with a locked bootloader. in order to flash a custom recovery, you need to unlick the bootloader. and you will get an ota with root, but you cant apply it, so its pointless.
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I seem to be walking in your footsteps today. Sorry about that.

cam30era said:
You may be able to do this by using chainfire's autoroot tool. But why the reluctance to unlock? It's not difficult. Unlocked bootloader has no effect on accepting OTA. On the other hand, root will prevent you from accepting OTA. It's easy to fastboot flash back to stock when a new OTA becomes available. And it's even easier to download the Google factory images and fastboot flash them. Plenty of "how to" threads on the general section.
With that said, the only reason I can see for not unlocking your bootloader would be if your employer has restrictions, or your are really worried about someone stealing your device and getting your personal information.
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I seem to be walking in your footsteps today. Sorry about that.
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na, thats ok, even great! im just bored at work at the moment, lol