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Is it safe to take an ota on unlocked bootloader, s-on?
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bleichtman said:
Is it safe to take an ota on unlocked bootloader, s-on?
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You can't take an OTA on an unlocked bootloader. You must have stock bootloader and stock recovery.
Yes. You just have to relock the bootloader with fastboot oem lock, grab the OTA, then send the unlocktoken to re-unlock. The firmware update will update your hboot and whatnot, however, and you won't be able to downgrade with a RUU. In theory, you could use a RUU for the new OTA but one is not available.
Good news, however, is that revone s-off does function with the updated hboot. I just s-off'd about 5 minutes ago with the new hboot and revone 0.2.1.
sshede said:
Yes. You just have to relock the bootloader with fastboot oem lock, grab the OTA, then send the unlocktoken to re-unlock. The firmware update will update your hboot and whatnot, however, and you won't be able to downgrade with a RUU. In theory, you could use a RUU for the new OTA but one is not available.
Good news, however, is that revone s-off does function with the updated hboot. I just s-off'd about 5 minutes ago with the new hboot and revone 0.2.1.
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Really, I've read that Revone does not work with .31 software version.
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theotrman said:
Really, I've read that Revone does not work with .31 software version.
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That's the way I did it earlier today. Failed in a terminal window on the phone but worked fine using shell via adb. Took about three minutes with zero errors. Your results may vary, but I successfully installed the OTA from Sprint, installed the stock rooted rom, then revone s-off with no errors.
sshede said:
That's the way I did it earlier today. Failed in a terminal window on the phone but worked fine using shell via adb. Took about three minutes with zero errors. Your results may vary, but I successfully installed the OTA from Sprint, installed the stock rooted rom, then revone s-off with no errors.
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Did you HTC DEV Unlocked before you S-Offer and which version of Revone did u use 0.2 or 0.2.1?
I get a "segmentation fault" fail/error...
Thanks for you help man...
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Omg people stop spreading that you have to relock the BL to take an OTA. You do not need to relock the boot loader, you only need to have stock recovery and stock system apps
I always run all my phones with rooted stock and take every OTA with an unlocked boot loader just fine
If you are relocking the BL then you are adding unnecessary steps to the process. You also do not have to s-on for an OTA I have seen some saying you must s-on too... Let's stop spreading the incorrect info
theotrman said:
Did you HTC DEV Unlocked before you S-Offer and which version of Revone did u use 0.2 or 0.2.1?
I get a "segmentation fault" fail/error...
Thanks for you help man...
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I unlocked via HTCDev, and used 0.2.1. I used it via ADB shell, I did not use it on the phone itself.
Also contrary to what the guy above me said, I had to RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER to accept the OTA, it failed otherwise on two seperate Ones.
sshede said:
I unlocked via HTCDev, and used 0.2.1. I used it via ADB shell, I did not use it on the phone itself.
Also contrary to what the guy above me said, I had to RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER to accept the OTA, it failed otherwise on two seperate Ones.
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Ok. That's my problem. I cannot unlock bootloader with REVONE, I gotta HTC DEV Unlock it, correct?
Than you for the help.
Btw.. OT.. the IR Blaster coupled with the HTC TV app is sik!
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sshede said:
I unlocked via HTCDev, and used 0.2.1. I used it via ADB shell, I did not use it on the phone itself.
Also contrary to what the guy above me said, I had to RELOCK THE BOOTLOADER to accept the OTA, it failed otherwise on two seperate Ones.
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That's weird, my sprint one and two friends with T-Mobile also took ota without relocking it, also never had to relock my nexus7, galaxy nexus, evo4g, evo3d or evo shift. I do know that you must relock it to use an RUU tho
I guess there is no telling what variables are out there... I have also seen people say you must be s-off to flash recovery which should only require unlocked BL go figure....
theotrman said:
Ok. That's my problem. I cannot unlock bootloader with REVONE, I gotta HTC DEV Unlock it, correct?
Than you for the help.
Btw.. OT.. the IR Blaster coupled with the HTC TV app is sik!
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Unlocking the bootloader and SOFF are different. Unlock through HTC then use revone with adb shell and you shouldn't have any problems.
sshede said:
Unlocking the bootloader and SOFF are different. Unlock through HTC then use revone with adb shell and you shouldn't have any problems.
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Yep understand they are 2 different things. But my understanding of the REVONE exploit was that you could unlock the boot loader and achieve root access w/o HTC DEV Unlock and of course S-OFF. At least you could before the .31 update.
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theotrman said:
Yep understand they are 2 different things. But my understanding of the REVONE exploit was that you could unlock the boot loader and achieve root access w/o HTC DEV Unlock and of course S-OFF. At least you could before the .31 update.
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I can't comment on revone before 1.31, but it does fail for me without being dev unlocked.
Hey,
I'm finding it really difficult to get a definitive answer on the following question. So I'm just going to ask: if my HTC One has been updated to 4.2.2 by my carrier, does this mean I cannot use moonshine or revone to turn S-off? I've been trying all morning and I've read that this might be the case? Which is a damn shame as I wanted stock android with those lovely OTA updates.
Cheers, Jav
JavLange said:
Hey,
I'm finding it really difficult to get a definitive answer on the following question. So I'm just going to ask: if my HTC One has been updated to 4.2.2 by my carrier, does this mean I cannot use moonshine or revone to turn S-off? I've been trying all morning and I've read that this might be the case? Which is a damn shame as I wanted stock android with those lovely OTA updates.
Cheers, Jav
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If you updated using OTA your bootloader would have been updated to 1.54 (you can check by going to bootloader. POWER + VOL DOWN)
and revone or moonshine will not work on 1.54.
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nkk71 said:
If you updated using OTA your bootloader would have been updated to 1.54 (you can check by going to bootloader. POWER + VOL DOWN)
and revone or moonshine will not work on 1.54.
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Ah - that's what I was thinking. So there isn't a way to "convert" my own to a Google Play Edition until a new way to turn S-off is found?
Thanks for your help - it's good to have clarity! =)
You can flash a GE rom based.
But you can't receive the OTA from htc
You need the s-off for the full convert to GE edition
JavLange said:
Ah - that's what I was thinking. So there isn't a way to "convert" my own to a Google Play Edition until a new way to turn S-off is found?
Thanks for your help - it's good to have clarity! =)
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What do you mean by convert? If you mean flashing different ROMs, then you can use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader, and flash different ROMs, Radios, and kernels.
It will show your bootloader as TAMPERED and and UNLOCKED / RELOCKED (ie never again simply LOCKED). And you will loose OTA capability unless u go back to stock ROM and recovery and relock.
You will also not be able to flash unsigned firmware.
If you do decide to unlock, make a nandroid backup of your stock ROM before flashing anything new, so that you can always go back to stock ROM for OTAs.
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nkk71 said:
What do you mean by convert? If you mean flashing different ROMs, then you can use HTCdev to unlock your bootloader, and flash different ROMs, Radios, and kernels.
It will show your bootloader as TAMPERED and and UNLOCKED / RELOCKED (ie never again simply LOCKED). And you will loose OTA capability unless u go back to stock ROM and recovery and relock.
You will also not be able to flash unsigned firmware.
If you do decide to unlock, make a nandroid backup of your stock ROM before flashing anything new, so that you can always go back to stock ROM for OTAs.
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He means this
The full convert to GE Phone.
Guich said:
He means this
The full convert to GE Phone.
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I do =)
So to make it all legit, I'd have to somehow revert my bootloader back to a version that supported turning S-off? I'm pretty sure that's beyond my feeble skills!
Never mind then - cheers all =)
Guich said:
He means this
The full convert to GE Phone.
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But he could still use a GPe ROM, right? He wouldn't get the black bootloader or GOOGL001 CID, but the custom GPe ROMs out there would give him GPe experience.
Or am I missing something?
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JavLange said:
I do =)
So to make it all legit, I'd have to somehow revert my bootloader back to a version that supported turning S-off? I'm pretty sure that's beyond my feeble skills!
Never mind then - cheers all =)
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You can't downgrade the hboot for acheive the s-off...
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But he could still use a GPe ROM, right? He wouldn't get the black bootloader or GOOGL001 CID, but the custom GPe ROMs out there would give him GPe experience.
Or am I missing something?
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Yes, he can.
But if he will have the ota from htc/google of the ge he need the s-off
He can usa a GE based rom.
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Guich said:
You can't downgrade the hboot for acheive the s-off...
Yes, he can.
But if he will have the ota from htc/google of the ge he need the s-off
He can usa a GE based rom.
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Oh I see! So the best I can do is install the RUU from this and manually keep my phone up to date thereafter?
JavLange said:
Oh I see! So the best I can do is install the RUU from this and manually keep my phone up to date thereafter?
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Not an RUU, a custom ROM.
You would have to
1- unlock bootloader using HTCdev (will completely wipe your phone)
2- install custom recovery (CWM or TWRP)
3- make a nandroid backup of your stock ROM for the future
4- flash a GPe ROM from the development thread
That's it in a nutshell.
You will need your stock ROM and stock recovery later to get your official OTA, because that will be the only way to update your firmware. Everything else is pretty much covered in the custom ROMs out there.
I recommend reading the guides to familiarize yourself with the procedures.
I personally am on ARHD Sense 5 ROM, but there's also a GPe version, as well as others of course. Read a bit through these threads to get a "feeling" about them.
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So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Its not important at all
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With S-off you can flash everything you want on your phone . Downgrade is a most comun reason.
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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Some carriers are the only users option in their area.
Like for me, that carrier would be Verizon. They have great coverage.
But they also happen to be evil and had HTC block our HTC One's MID from being able to use the HTC Bootloader Unlock bin file.
It will fail the initial checks after getting the token from you.
We also have the 1.54 hboot as stock, so there is no using moonshine, or facepalm, or any other previous method as of yet.
So in order for poor folks with carriers that strongarm smaller companies like HTC into doing things against their wishes and our wishes,
S-off allows us to then change CID,MID, etc,...as well as then go and unlock the bootloader as we should be able to do by choice.
That's why they built it and added in a warranty void warning, so we could make that choice if we so choose.
Anyway, that should make it more clear to you now at least, sorry for the extra carrier rant, lol.
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
Htc dev unlock only needed partitions. S-off unlock ALL
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Stephen304 said:
Ah okay. So S-off does similar to the HTCDev unlock? If I used S-Off instead could I get rid of the ugly warning text on boot?
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Yes you could get ride of the warning text with s-off, with s-on you cannot.
Everything what's said above + more , for example if htc one windows version ever gets ported s-off users can have it , we can also convert our device into ge edition / dev edition / flash whatever comes thru your mind , even splash screens , use modified bootloaders , we can also unlock bootloader without need of HTC official unlock process , we can lock it as well ( s-on can only relock it ) we can also completely hide we ever were rooted / unlocked for warranty reasons while s-on can't.
We can also use super cid which allows us to flash any ruu or use any region / carrier roms.
We can also downgrade bootloader or flash any other.
That's mainly it , also for example us with s-off have writeable partitions while for example s-on users still don't on 3.22 base.
And at the end maybe a good thing for you and some less advanced or less knowledgeable ppl s-on is a good thing since with s-on phone is practically indestructible software-wise , while with s-off small mistake even in fastboot could brick the device.
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santod040 said:
Plus the obvious other advantages of flashing radios, kernels, etc,...without doing fastboot.
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With the HTC One, you can flash radios and kernels in the recovery if you unlock the bootloader...
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Stephen304 said:
So I read about S-OFF and I can gather that it has something to do with unlocking the bootloader. I'm a little confused since I just went to the HTC website and did the official unlock steps, I'm now rooted with clockworkmod CM10.2, and my bootloader is S-ON.
Basically, I never did S-OFF so I'm confused about why it's so important and why didn't I have to do it?
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To get official OTA with updates to firmware, hboot and everything you have to get them from your carrier, and this depends on your CID. You cannot change this on S-ON. So basically your are bound to your carrier for life, they may but also may not release updates (like for ex. carriers in USA skipped 4.2 if I am not mistaken). You can of course flash custom ROM using dev unlock, but it won't update the firmware.
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
If you do s-on with modified hboot will result an instant and forever brick. Dont do that.
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Stephen304 said:
Ah okay thanks for the info! I have one more question about S-OFF if you don't mind: If I S-OFF and disable the red warning (flashing an unsigned fw), then S-ON again, would the warning come back?
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Why exactly would you want to go back to S-ON?
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My HTC One is actually an AT&T version and I successfully turned it into a Google Play edition with 4.4 Kit Kat. I now need to turn it back into the AT&T version but everything is failing and I relocked the bootloader and it will not unlock again even though the Unlock_code.bin says it was successful when ran. It never goes to the unlock bootloader splash screen on the phone to actually unlock it. Somehow it's a mess. I still have s-off. Is there a bootloader unlock via s-off? I'd like to flash the AT&T stock recovery and relock it and flash the AT&T 4.3 rom if possible. Any help would be appreciated, thank you!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475914
This should be in the Q and A forum as well
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gusto5 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2475914
This should be in the Q and A forum as well
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This procedure requires the phone to be rooted.
is there anyway to either:
a) Root the phone with a locked bootloader if you have s-off?
or
b) unlock the bootloader without using S-off without using HTCDev?
basically I dont want to loose all my settings and date and re-install everything.
kiwiandy said:
This procedure requires the phone to be rooted.
is there anyway to either:
a) Root the phone with a locked bootloader if you have s-off?
or
b) unlock the bootloader without using S-off without using HTCDev?
basically I dont want to loose all my settings and date and re-install everything.
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I don't know about not losing anything but I did manage to get mine back to being at&t again thankfully. You definitely have to change the cid and I used the decrypted stock at&t rom from the htc1guru website. I'm pretty sure it's the same as the ruu.exe downloaded directly from HTC. My phone flushed the hboot and then flushed the rest of it in ruu mode. I still have s-off and I'm leaving my bootloader locked. I bet it will unlock now though.
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galaxyjeff said:
I don't know about not losing anything but I did manage to get mine back to being at&t again thankfully. You definitely have to change the cid and I used the decrypted stock at&t rom from the htc1guru website. I'm pretty sure it's the same as the ruu.exe downloaded directly from HTC. My phone flushed the hboot and then flushed the rest of it in ruu mode. I still have s-off and I'm leaving my bootloader locked. I bet it will unlock now though.
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you can use this to easily lock/unlock at any time using custom recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527194 (for TWRP need 2.6.3.3 or higher)
nkk71 said:
you can use this to easily lock/unlock at any time using custom recovery: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2527194 (for TWRP need 2.6.3.3 or higher)
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Thank you. I think it will go back to unlocking now that I'm back on an att rom. I don't like that Google edition 4.4 rom. It takes away beats audio even though it says it still has it.
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Hello,
I have a HTC One M8 running 4.4.4.
So i want to update to lolipop but i want root. My question is should i unlock the bootloader and get S-OFF and root then do the OTA update? Will i keep the root? Or can i just OTA then unlock s-off and root.
Also do i even need S-OFF? All i want to do is install custom roms and edit root files
michaelclaw said:
Hello,
I have a HTC One M8 running 4.4.4.
So i want to update to lolipop but i want root. My question is should i unlock the bootloader and get S-OFF and root then do the OTA update? Will i keep the root? Or can i just OTA then unlock s-off and root.
Also do i even need S-OFF? All i want to do is install custom roms and edit root files
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I would S-off now before upgrading. Once you're S-off you can update. If you update first you won't be able to S-off (at least for the time being).
Magnum_Enforcer said:
I would S-off now before upgrading. Once you're S-off you can update. If you update first you won't be able to S-off (at least for the time being).
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thanks haha, i ended up just updating then deciding to root after. Regardless thanks for replying!
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