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Lost my patience with Android

Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)

007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I just switched from Windows Phone ( HD7 ) to Galaxy Note. If you think the situation with updates looks any better on Windows Phone - you're wrong mate. Been waiting for Mango quite a long time - when it arrived, i had to flash a stock rom from other device cause they cut some features from it ( like internet sharing ) which are still oficially not there for some devices ( half a year later! ). There's next update Tango coming - which doesn't actually bring anything new except of low-end device support. And Apollo is scheduled for Q4 - and 1st gen devices "probably won't be getting it"
At least, with Android, you've got custom ROMs that get updated really quickly, big dev scene, the ability to install apps from all sources - and code/test/share your own apps without paying annual fee for having your phone dev-unlocked, and they don't cut features "just because there's a new device - so go buy it".
I love Windows Phone - as a regular phone. I kept waiting and waiting for changes - but the OS is still as locked down as it was in the beginning, no "not from market" apps, no drag-and-drop media, most of apps still dont support multitasking, cant even access your files, and apps from the market, believe me, are not that useful - that's why i moved away to Android.
I'd give it another thought mate - and about Note being laggy - try ICS AOSP rom, they run really smoothly.

007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Good riddance, bro. Want some cheese with that whine?
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007shaolin said:
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Laggy as Hell ??? what the hell ? you want to take advantage of openness of Android and still u whinin? lots of custom rom already running smooth on Note...
i m using stock LC2 n its really smooth

007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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I've never had any problems with Samsung's phones. The leaks provide enough of a base for us to get ICS working and Damn near perfect. I'm running an AOKP build with nearly Zero bugs and get almost 5-6 hours of SCREEN ON time per day with nearly 3 days of battery life with my usual texting and web surfing. Android is about being open, and as far as I'm concerned it is. Running ICS, I have had Zero lag, only one minor glitch (which is fixed in updated builds), better battery life than most of my friend's phones, a huge screen, and a OS that isn't crazy limited. If you change, it's obviously up to you, but I would go and test the many ICS roms out there like AOKP or ICStunner as they are simply amazing.
If you would rather have the WP7 then go for it. There's no point in us trying to convince you otherwise if you really have your mind set to it.

i was fan of android but the updates man o man do it 1 time in a month or so but every 2 a 3 day....update update....
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I got my device in december, and I've received 3 updates (maybe 4) since then. That's a lot of updates. I have no complaints. What you're whining about is not getting the absolute latest OS build right away. I'd much rather have Samsung pushing updates that make it a stable device than Samsung sending us crappy builds. That would defer me, and I'm sure many others who don't like to flash custom ROMs and such, to other devices. I believe Samsung is doing the correct thing and waiting until the ROM is properly developed.
Enjoy WM7. A lot of people seem to enjoy it! I was actually thinking about it, too, a while ago, but it kind of follows Apple's model of multitasking and that doesn't do it for me. Blackberry and Android are the OSs that offer true multitasking (webOS, too, but that seems to be dead in the eyes of HP/Palm lol).

The Note isn't laggy, Gingerbread is. ICS is silky smooth. Samsung needs to hurry up and get ICS on the Note because it shackles such a wonderful device. It's like Apple running the new iPad with iOS 3.0. Your phone is only as good as your software is, and Gingerbread is an antiquated POS.

I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.

007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Sell your Note and get a Windows Phone is my advice. That way you'll be moaning in somebody else's forum instead of ours.
I've had WinMo, iPhone, Symbian and more recently Android and Google's contribution is by far the best.

SaneQ said:
I lose my patience on Android Market here in Finland, because it sucks compared to the USA Market and App Store.
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You can use market enabler and choose tmobile profile and then you can install every us app that you want. Restart and you will be using default provider flags again. So, there is no problem.
I am using lc1 stock rom, the best out there in my opinion, everything works and pretty fast too.
WP7 is no where near WM6.5 in terms of functionality and way behind Android, IOS too. Android is the best choose in terms of functionality and practicality from all the smartphone OSes out there.

007shaolin said:
Had anyone here lost their patience with updates to android phones? I was an android fan. Peoples and manufactures tell us about all the possibilities it have, how open it was, all the features, all the promises.
But then i saw it was all a lie, when updates come with a half year or longer in delay. And developers cant do anything before a leak (im not blaming developers), so whats the deal with an open os?
My next phone is a windows mobile phone for sure.
(Yes, i have a galaxy note. Laggy as hell)
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Honestly shaolin it's people like you that makes devs abandon XDA for whining about everything and everyone! Go.. get a windows phone and when you do and see how limited windows phone is DON'T COME BACK! Stay away from XDA and honestly i hope i can speak in the name of the whole community:
Don't ever come to this forum whining!
I won a Galaxy Note and honestly, i bought my SGS2 without ever had tried Android and i love the possibilities it brings me! The openess on developing!
I simply love it! Had my first chance on SGS2 and i will continue to use this awesome SO!
Please ask an admin to ban your account and go somewhere else!

Bye bye. Enjoy whatever phone you'll be getting. Just remember, it's just a phone at the end of the day.

Im not the only one
Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.

007shaolin said:
Funny! zdnet journalist have the same thought as I do. you can read it here. http://www.zdnet.com/blog/perlow/im-sick-to-death-of-android/20242
Even Galaxy Nexus have delay in updates.
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I don't get folks like you. You actually purchase a phone for what it will be, as opposed to what it is.
Do you only live in the future? Don't forget the present mate.
If you're so unhappy with the lack of updates or the speed of updates, go get iOS and WP7. No one is grabbing you by the ball-sack to stay with Androids.
P.S. Requested to mods that this thread be moved to Android General as it has nothing to do with the Galaxy Note.

Actually I dont even want an update from Samsung any more,yesterday I recirved an update for the Samsung Apps after updating it stoped downloading applications alltogether!!,
"You cant download with this email from this country" bla ..bla..there was no way Icould fix that even after signing up for multiple new accounts.
If things will look like this I rather be left along with the GB.

Moved to teh OT forum as they will advice you better on what to do about your quandary
May the trolls have mercy on your soul mate.

You have a 1.4GHz dual core phone and Mali 400MP GPU and say it lags. My friend has a Wildfire that has a clock speed of 524MHz and no GPU and even he isn't complaining as much as you. Why don't you donate him your phone and make the good switch to Symbian S60?

what is even the point of this thread? It appears you looking to justify your feelings because you read an article and lack confidence to buy a new phone without a thread of people you don't know making a decision for you.
android is great

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HTC One and Cyanogenmod

Hello everyone,
Over the last three or so years I have made my way through a lot of phones, always in-search of the 'perfect' one.
I've settled on the Nexus range because I love stock Android and have found the hardware to be acceptable.
For my next foray into a 2013 phone I'm thinking of getting the HTC One and pairing this with Cyanogenmod, when it becomes available.
This to me would be the best physical hardware, in both appearance and materials of any Android device, and software.
Something akin to this!
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So the reason for this thread is to gain input from those who have used both Stock and Cyanogenmod.
Am I going to be satisfied with the move?
Visually things are the same? The use the same assets?
What problems could arise? What should I be aware of when compared with Stock?
Any other thoughts or opinions you may have. Please keep it in-line with the HTC One and Cyanogenmod.
Many thanks.

Off-topic but when I look at that Black picture I find it sooo cool.

CyanogenMod will most likely come to the device. I don't see why it wouldn't. It'll also look just like CyanogenMod on your Nexus devices. But you can be assured that it won't come easily. It'll be harder to build than a nexus device, and early builds are likely to have bugs that will need to be worked out

notsointeresting said:
CyanogenMod will most likely come to the device. I don't see why it wouldn't. It'll also look just like CyanogenMod on your Nexus devices. But you can be assured that it won't come easily. It'll be harder to build than a nexus device, and early builds are likely to have bugs that will need to be worked out
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I've never rooted a device to put any ROM other than an update to Stock. I guess what I'd like to know is what the differences are between stock and Cyanogenmod. If the experience of using them is nearly 90% the same, then I'll be happy. If it's further away than that, I'll have to force myself to wait for the Nexus 5 and hope it brings some premium materials.

Re: blingfeed annoying
Is it worth it. I love it but even on the one x was frustrating due to not being able to use the camera to it's full potential.it would fly on here but you'd lose a lot on this device. Which would be a shame
(No doubt if be trying it still if it was here though and get frustrated again lol)
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mr.suff said:
Over the last three or so years I have made my way through a lot of phones, always in-search of the 'perfect' one
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I had the last 'perfect one' - the legendary HTC HD2 - since it came out.
I dropped the first one I owned and almost sold the insurance replacement to buy a different phone.
I was tempted many times by the hypegasm of new fangled phones but, really, what were they adding that the venerable HD2 couldn't already do? Nothing really.
Glad I made the choices I did.

Wait and see, all these answers can be answered by yourself ...
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mr.suff said:
I've never rooted a device to put any ROM other than an update to Stock. I guess what I'd like to know is what the differences are between stock and Cyanogenmod. If the experience of using them is nearly 90% the same, then I'll be happy. If it's further away than that, I'll have to force myself to wait for the Nexus 5 and hope it brings some premium materials.
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By default, it is basically identical, with a few improvements (T9 dialing).
However, there are many options to customise it - adding different shortcuts to the lockscreen ring (up to five, I think), quick-toggles in the notification shade, "quiet hours" (a setting which silences your phone during certain times of the week)..
The list is exhaustive.
CyanogenMod is much better than stock, imo, notification toggles are much better (and less complicated) than the quick-settings panel.

i wouldn't buy this device based on getting CM10. i think it's going to be quite awhile for both this phone and the s4. if you want a pure Google experience id look into the n4 or wait and see if the n5 is going to be announced at google io in may.

fix-this! said:
i wouldn't buy this device based on getting CM10. i think it's going to be quite awhile for both this phone and the s4. if you want a pure Google experience id look into the n4 or wait and see if the n5 is going to be announced at google io in may.
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Already have the Nexus 4. Mainly interested in the external hardware look and feel of the One, it's the Android equivalent of the iPhone 5 . I doubt Google will announce a new Nexus device at I/O, but I could be wrong.
I'm looking for opinions of those who've used both Stock and Cyanogenmod extensively. What they like and don't like.

mr.suff said:
Already have the Nexus 4. Mainly interested in the external hardware look and feel of the One, it's the Android equivalent of the iPhone 5 . I doubt Google will announce a new Nexus device at I/O, but I could be wrong.
I'm looking for opinions of those who've used both Stock and Cyanogenmod extensively. What they like and don't like.
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im hearing the n5 will be announced at google io.

What is this cyanidemod? Please be happy to tell me.

Suqmadiq said:
What is this cyanidemod? Please be happy to tell me.
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Stock Android without custom skins like Sense and TouchWiz: Wiki
Edit, Its not cyanidemod, its cyanogenmod

AW: HTC One and Cyanogenmod
NiCk.JaY said:
Stock Android without custom skins like Sense and TouchWiz: Wiki
Edit, Its not cyanidemod, its cyanogenmod
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It's not Stock Android. There are a few modifications! For example the quick toggles.
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I didn't read the question properly lol. Mate if your a fan of pure android stick with the nexus.I love both so I'm okay. But pure...there's a lot to be said for how quick everything runs. Though I wouldn't pass on the one.
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Thing is, stock rom (Sense) tend to have better battery life than CM10. Stock roms (Sense) are more optimised for the system. I've noticed this since my battery was a lot less when I had the S2, S3, HTC One X etc using CM10.

I also feel this may get a quicker/less buggy release than the S4 with exynos 5. I imagine samsung wont release any info for the exynos 5 like they havent for the exynos 4. The S600 variants will probably be fine but that may give the One an advantage.

it makes no sense to buy a HTC One or any phone for that matter to just put stock android on it.. you lose half the features the phone came with (even if their are gimmick or not)
You should just buy a Nexus device.. because in the end thats all you trying to get..
You are buying the HTC One for design.. not for its features..
The processors wouldn't be any difference in notice.. unless you plan on running HD 1080P videos every second of the day and playing games like "Dead trigger, Real Racing etc every day"

May-C said:
It's not Stock Android. There are a few modifications! For example the quick toggles.
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That was just to explain the basics of cm to him
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The main difference between stock android and cyanogenmod are featured n options. There are a lot more settings, n tweaks and ways to persoalize it the way you want. There are also variations of CM like aokp, paranoidandroid,etc which add even more options and customizations. Also there will be sense roms with things added/removed l, etc that you may like. The great thing about Roms is that you can change the whole look ans feel of your phone within minutes. Best thing for you to do is go over to like the HTC EVO 4g LTE forum or the HTC ONE X forum and look thru the android and original android development sections at all the toms and get an idea what is out there. Any aosp rom would be cm like stock android and any sense is just that tweaked stock sense.

Skip N6 and wait for the Note 4 to get a GPE rom

So with so much bad press on the nexus 6, its looking more and more like ifs worth waiting for the Note 4 to get a GPE style rom and ditch all that sammy junk and have a way better phone than a nexus 6 for slightly less cash in the longrun ?
The nexus 6 reports :
Letters falling out the back
Average battery life
Screen burn in
Average camera
Bad avalibility worldwide
Units with flaking paint
Units with bad software
Lollipop just being buggy
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge
I mean really is mitorola just trolling us with the nexus 6 ???

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hutzdani said:
So with so much bad press on the nexus 6, its looking more and more like ifs worth waiting for the Note 4 to get a GPE style rom and ditch all that sammy junk and have a way better phone than a nexus 6 for slightly less cash in the longrun ?
The nexus 6 reports :
Letters falling out the back
Average battery life
Screen burn in
Average camera
Bad avalibility worldwide
Units with flaking paint
Units with bad software
Lollipop just being buggy
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge
I mean really is mitorola just trolling us with the nexus 6 ???
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Letters falling out the back-- thats happened to how many people? maybe 10-20? thats not an issue.
Average battery life-- ive seen a minimal of 6 hours screen on time since i got the n6.
Screen burn in-- it can happen to any device, particularly amoled screens. this early is very uncommon. btw, note 4, amoled screen as well.
Average camera-- its much better than an average smartphone user knows.
Bad avalibility worldwide-- ok, with this ill agree. but its still a very new device as well.
Units with flaking paint-- i havent seen nor read of any real complaints.
Units with bad software-- att units only, the ones with a locked sim.
Lollipop just being buggy-- everything starts off buggy, then it get fixed with time.
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge-- not true. my n6 was taking in 2400mV at 60% battery. ive never ever seen so much going into a phone. my nexus 5 takes in 1200mV, max. you also have to remember, the battery is much bigger, so itll take more time filling it as well.

hutzdani said:
So with so much bad press on the nexus 6, its looking more and more like ifs worth waiting for the Note 4 to get a GPE style rom and ditch all that sammy junk and have a way better phone than a nexus 6 for slightly less cash in the longrun ?
The nexus 6 reports :
Letters falling out the back
Average battery life
Screen burn in
Average camera
Bad avalibility worldwide
Units with flaking paint
Units with bad software
Lollipop just being buggy
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge
I mean really is mitorola just trolling us with the nexus 6 ???
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I don't think it is Motorola trolling us

Lol!

Have fun fitting a square peg into a round hole.
That's my analogy with AOSP running on Sammy devices. Always one thing wrong.

hutzdani said:
So with so much bad press on the nexus 6, its looking more and more like ifs worth waiting for the Note 4 to get a GPE style rom and ditch all that sammy junk and have a way better phone than a nexus 6 for slightly less cash in the longrun ?
The nexus 6 reports :
Letters falling out the back
Average battery life
Screen burn in
Average camera
Bad avalibility worldwide
Units with flaking paint
Units with bad software
Lollipop just being buggy
Turbo chatging being as efficent as turning your phone off to charge
I mean really is mitorola just trolling us with the nexus 6 ???
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Are you retarted! GPE devices weren't built with stock Android in mind. Stock Android doesn't fully utilize the unsupported and proprietary hardware found on GPE devices. A proper Nexus ALWAYS gets Android updates first and yeah, only the N6's that were desecrated by AT&T are having bugs. True Nexus aficionados know better than to get violated/crippled Nexus devices from the wireless carriers.
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SilkyJohnson said:
Have fun fitting a square peg into a round hole.
That's my analogy with AOSP running on Sammy devices. Always one thing wrong.
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Even AOSP isn't the full Google experience that Google intends for mobile devices. There exists some Google proprietary software that only the Nexus devices get.

Esteban4u said:
Are you retarted! GPE devices weren't built with stock Android in mind. Stock Android doesn't fully utilize the unsupported and proprietary hardware found on GPE devices. A proper Nexus ALWAYS gets Android updates first and yeah, only the N6's that were desecrated by AT&T are having bugs. True Nexus aficionados know better than to get violated/crippled Nexus devices from the wireless carriers.
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Even AOSP isn't the full Google experience that Google intends for mobile devices. There exists some Google proprietary software that only the Nexus devices get.
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Nah im not retarded im just not willkng fork out almost 600 pounds on a **** phone, there are better options about that you can go and buy andndont have a small list if faults qith them and google new buggy OS on them.
Id get a note 4 after dome seirous consideration but i dobt want physicsl keys or any samsung **** software ill never use.
Phones are turning out like video games these days, and you cany patch hardware issues so im reluctant to get such an expensive device with a good chance thay it will look like **** in a months time.
And if the nexus 6 is as slow as my N5 is with 5.0 currently ill definalty wait for 5.1 and re worked nexus 6 hardwear

Lol gtfo haha

Note 4 is not getting GPE ROM. With any luck, the S5 will.
What the Note will get is a buggy AOSP ROM with incomplete camera and sensor support.

My at&t has been flawless from day one. The few things they did were easily remedied. I've literally had none of the issues you listed off. It's like flipping out over iPhone Bendgate when like 2 people reported it. When things are manufactured in mass, not every single piece is going to be perfect or get caught before they go out. Regardless of what you paid for it.

Sometimes you got to take a step back from the forums and just see for yourself. We are very small but vocal group.
I got caught up in the reviews and reading the threads and was almost turned off by the Nexus.
But after buying it I'm not looking back. I'm pretty dang satisfied.
My screen has no burn in. No letters falling off the back, or flaking paint, or battery acid leaking out or whatever else folks come up with.
My battery life is pretty average. And there are a few kinks that need to be worked out but I'm sure that's expected with a brand new phone running new software.
I love the Note 4. Test drove it for a few days and was very impressed. But I hate touchwiz. And can't play that game waiting for development.

The people reporting these issues are definitely the extremely vocal minority.

Xileforce said:
The people reporting these issues are definitely the extremely vocal minority.
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Further, go read Note4 boards and there's issues. There is no perfect phone.

If you want to look for things to complain about re: a phone - any phone - you will find them. I'm extremely happy with my N6 and I suspect many others feel the same way.

Perhaps the OP would be better off with an iPhone.
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Yikes, I couldn't wish that on anybody ... lol

laureanop said:
Note 4 is not getting GPE ROM. With any luck, the S5 will.
What the Note will get is a buggy AOSP ROM with incomplete camera and sensor support.
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just give it time

Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Android 5.0 Update Coming Later Than Planned...

I just found this article on Master Herald:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Android 5.0 Update Coming Later Than Planned as Company Readjusts Plans around Gear VR
Initial reports about the Gear VR claimed that Samsung are planning to put a lot of focus on the device, but it wasn’t until recently that the picture started to really clear up. It seems that the company really is moving forward very actively with the Gear VR, but at the same time, sadly, some of their current users will have to suffer a little bit. Recent rumors indicated that the Android 5.0 Lollipop update is coming closer for the Samsung Galaxy Note 4, but there have now been reports that the update has been pushed back a little further.
According to the most recent updates, the new Galaxy Note 4 ROM has been handed over to a team that’s working to ensure the device will have full compatibility with Samsung’s Gear VR. Considering the Note 4 is one of the very few devices that will (reportedly) support the Gear VR, it’s no wonder that Samsung are trying so hard to make sure that this compatibility works flawlessly.
The Gear VR is Samsung’s own take on the Virtual Reality concept, although they’re approaching the problem from a different direction. Instead of selling a complete device including an internal screen for the goggles, the Gear VR is meant to be used with Samsung’s other devices. The user would attach, for example, the Galaxy Note 4, and would then use the Gear VR as a normal VR headset, using the screen of the device.
It’s not known how much different this technology will be from the Oculus Rift in terms of performance, and there has been some skepticism aimed at it due to the fact that it relies on one screen instead of two. Still, Samsung seem to know what they’re doing, as they’ve been putting more and more effort into promoting and developing the Gear VR further, so it will be curious to see where they end up with this device. Even if it doesn’t break any solid grounds on the VR market, it still has the potential to set interesting new trends for it, and at least push it forward to some extent. So far, its performance has been acceptable, although those who’ve tried it seem to be left with mixed opinions.
Other devices that are going to get the Android 5.0 Lollipop update include the Galaxy Note Edge, Galaxy Alpha, Galaxy S5 mini, and Galaxy S4. Exact release dates for the new firmware version are not known, but it’s expected that Samsung will prioritize the devices according to their compatibility with the Gear VR. This could potentially indicate which devices Samsung is planning to make compatible with the headset in the future, too.

F%$& Gear VR, I want Lollipop nao =(
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Nice find OP...why the actual **** would we care about gearVR ffs, they'll probably release lollipop for the note 2 soon and note 4 users will still be waiting because of their stupid "virtual reality" ****...

http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..

oscar fernando said:
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
samsung galaxy note 4 gets android 5.0 lollipop update in russia
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is this real and can we flash this in the uk??!

I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?

I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos

Well Samsung is making a very bad impression on people who picked up the Note 4 as their first Samsung device. I love the device itself but the TW interface and constant lag on a device this powerful is embarrassing. It worries me that instead of focusing on making TW better for the Lollipop update they are goofing around with compatibility for a $200 piece of plastic that won't even work unless you have a specific device with a specific version of OS installed. Maybe I'm being unfair but I also own a Gear Neo 2 which can't be used on any other phone. See like the Gear VR it can't be used on my Note 4 unless I have a specific version of OS installed. This makes the device extremely limited. It's nice they are making sure the VR is going to work for the few hundred people who have a Gear VR, but for the thousands who don't it isn't a very good excuse for taking 3 months to push out one update. Loving the Note 4 device but not loving TW or the limited customization. This doesn't turn me off android devices at all. Just turning me off from investing in another Samsung product.
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Drizzy xS said:
I dunno there's a chance theyre lying but there's no way they've accidentally got this wrong, as they referred to the note 3 by saying like it's predecessor I guess we'll here about it in a few hours time if it's real but my bets on them just lying cause they're Weirdos
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MaTiCeK- said:
I doubt it's true. They provide no source and there is nothing about this on sammobile. Perhaps, they just mistakenly wrote 4 instead of 3?
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Oscar Fernando said:
Samsung Galaxy Note 4 Gets Android 5.0 Lollipop Update In Russia
no idea whether it is true..
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Looks like they were supposed to say the S4 and not the Note 4.
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s4_i9500_getting_lollipop_in_russia-news-11008.php
http://www.nextpowerup.com/news/178...ts-android-5-0-lollipop-update-in-russia.html
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/01/30...500-is-getting-the-lollipop-update-in-russia/

well got this last night for what its worth...
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Hm do you reckon they're telling the truth or just bull****ting again to shut us up? If this is true it could be available by Monday

well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol

Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.

How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.

I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together

MyPeople said:
I believe in Samsung as much as I believe in God. Samsung said they will release Lollipop in January and I'm still in January.
But if they want to postpone the release due to Gear VR I won't be mad at them, they would do it for a good reason.
Samsung know why most of us wanted a phablet with super high resolution. And they know that we want lollipop, but they know well that we will be more satisfied if we receive Lollipop + Gear VR + reality porn together
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I too believe in Samsung as much as God........ not at all.

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How many on here are going to flash stock ROMs anyway? They're rubbish. I'll be waiting for the official Cyanogen 12 rom.
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There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
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Just wanna say I have a gear VR and it kicks ass. Most of us that own them already know this, but many are still uninformed.
you guys have clearly never used the Gear VR if you think it's a minor point of emphasis to Samsung. It is the wave of the future, in my opinion. Go ahead and downplay it or call it a niche product, but if you haven't tried it you really should. I understand the move to include the VR software with their initial release.
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We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
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Not saying I like that lollipop is delayed for Oculus to finish tweaking the kernel (if that's actually even the truth), but I'm glad I will be able to use it with the new update and not be stuck with KK. Furthermore if they just ignored the VR so they could release an earlier 5.0, there would still be another update in the coming weeks and everyone would have to wipe, reflash, reroot, etc...
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Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
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What's more, those of us who own the VR, if Samsung released an update without supporting it, there would be boatloads of complaints from people who either want to update asap, or accidentally accept the OTA.
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I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.

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There is no point in you waiting. The CM ROMs for the Note 4 are great and are already nearly merged with the Official branch. The update from Samsung only matters if you actually want to use any of Samsungs products or if you really need TW features.
We're not saying the VR is complete rubbish. but that the Note 4 users who do not have a VR, or have no interest in it vastly out weigh the people who actively use the Gear VR on a daily basis. Your not the only person screaming that the VR is the future. Things like the VR been proclaimed to be the future since 2012 (Or Nintendo back in 1995), and while they will become more popular as they are adopted it's not going to happen overnight. Remember we are talking about a Rift unit that effectively is a $1000+ headset because you need the phone and possibly more seeing that Samsung has been very open about you most likely will be needing the Samsung gamepad as well. Upside is that it is more portable then other versions. As for if the device is a success or not depends on support. Remember when everyone thought the Ouya was going to be the next big thing? The VR is very much a early adopter device. Games are not really here yet as approximately 40% of all launch titles announced so far are actually either short videos or sit still environments like a fish tank. I definitely believe the VR is a step in the correct direction but it's not here yet. Maybe in a few years. My point is why make thousands of Note 4 users wait for compatibility with a early adopter device that few of the Note 4 base even have?
Understandable. even if you have the Gear VR waiting isn't any fun. I don't think there will be many users who would have to reflash an update. OTA is there for a reason. Reroot sure, but that takes a few seconds. Heck in the time it takes me to make a sandwich I can reflash and root my device without problem.
I think there are more people complaining about not having the Lollipop update then those who depend on the Gear VR. I could be wrong. You do make a good point about accidentally accepting the OTA. I could see that happening.
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I've tried the unofficial CM ROM and the battery issues caused me too many problems. Its nearly there but not enough for me as a daily driver. One day I lost 50% battery in 2 hours lol and phone was hot as hell.

RustyShacklefords said:
well got it from 4 different reps...but whos nows with Sammy! lol
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Here's hoping they knew what they were talking about.

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Here's hoping they knew what they were talking about.
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A good ole bloody cheers to that!

Waiting for the Gear VR to play catch-up is worth it I think.
The Occulus team and the Samsung people have some time to begin to learn how to work with each other and exchange code, and we get to wait a little longer to find out if Lollipop is truly ready for this anyway.
As it is, the way things were going, I was going to manually skip this update.
I love my stock experience (touch wiz notwithstanding) and I can't stand the hoardes that show up to learn how to 're-install KK 'cause the battery's no good anymore and what's up with the notifications....?'
Happened with Ice-Cream (lord help those still devoutly on Gingerbread), happened with Jelly Bean (you'd have thought KK was treading ground Vista there at the beginning) and, mark my words, will happen - with a vengeance - with Lollipop.
I can wait for the last man standing.
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Pure 4.4.4 KitKat for T-Mobile Note 4

Hey guys is there anybody out there that's working or could work on Google's pure 4.4.4 version of KitKat for our note 4? There are a lot of rooted apps & games that are not supported in 5.0 lollipop & I also want to enjoy my 3GB of ram without installing a custom Samsung based rom that takes up almost 2 gigs of it. Any help is appreciated. Thanks

Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.

spunkfaucet666 said:
Yeah I always wondered why there wasn't a ROM of this sort. I'd use it.
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Same here I need a cm11 or a 4.4.4 rom that's cm11 based

I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
BAD ASS NOTE 4 & GEAR S

I doubt there will ever be a pure kitkat released on the forum. Unless you message a developer to perhaps build you one

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I doubt there will ever be a pure kitkat released on the forum. Unless you message a developer to perhaps build you one
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Yeah that's true but I don't know any developers on here lol plus I don't know any that's willing to work on one knowing everybody is going crazy about the 5.0 lollipop update

I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly

mgbotoe said:
I know what you mean. Everyone reserved their strength in making it compatible for lollipop...they will have to do the same again for kitkat...sadly
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Yeah that's sadly true. But it won't hurt to ask.....even tho I might 99 replies in "no" but I might get one yes & hopefully that matters

Lollipop, Nexus 6, Experia 3Z
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I think the nexus 6 might be what you guys looking for. Most of us bought the note 4 cause of the features it offers. My boy wanted plain he got the nexus. It as pure as you gonna find
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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......

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FWIW, I pulled the trigger on the Nexus 6, because of the resale value, and pure lollipop. I thought it would be educational and tide me over til fall when the note 5 falls. I was back and forth between the Nexus, and Sony's Z3, but the glass back was a killer. After getting the Nexus last Friday, I played with the shipped 5.0.0, but my LTE was for s***, so I took the update to 5.0.1....same story. Unlocked and rooted, flashed a great 5.0.2 ROM, but still crazy reception. it would drop to no service on LTE, go to 4 bars 4G, 5bars 3G, 3 bars H. Needless to say I was more than disappointed. Sending it back in the morning, and coming back to the Note. Did not see ANY big deal with Lollipop at all, and it boots so slow! Then I read that on both the Nexus 6, and the Z3, They have not activated band 12 on either, and MAY in quarter 2 or 3. so that explains the radio issues. Anyway, I will be back on FireKat V9 come Tuesday, when my new Note arrives. That's my story......
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I be honest I will be staying on nk4 when lollipop drops.
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Yeah...that was the gist of what I wrote. LOL

The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.

Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol

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The nexus 6 lacks an sd card slot unfortunately that is a deal breaker for me.
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It beyond me why they would make a phone without an SD card slot. Wtf.
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Honestly, i wouldnt mind a CM11 rom. I really loved the stock 4.4.4 that came the with Nexus 5, smooth and bare.
But another point is, development doesnt go backwards (usually, anyway).
I would love it, but it wont be done .
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@slayher wink wink.
Pay the man, maybe he'll port.
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mgbotoe said:
Poor op, his thread became about lollipop and nexus when he was simply asking about pure kitkat lol
@iRashawn229 I will suggest you perhaps hit up slayer and see what happens. afterall he did make it compatible the lollipop tree, perhaps wont require much. i build for my self on spare time if i have time again will see if I can get lucky and get a boot lol
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Thank you. Any help is appreciated

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Lmao, I'm stealing that btw

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