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Hi,
I still intend to obtain this smartphone, yet I thought I could get some opinions from people who actually own S730. I've read a bunch of reviews, but I am aware that reviewers might have skipped some issues (as proven with this driver issue and what TyTN II owners wrote on this topic). I mean - plain opinions, what do you like/dislike about the phone.
I newer owned a smartphone before and I am attracted to the keyboard+keypad idea (I own Nokia 6820), which leaves me with quite a narrow set of choices. S730 looks good and gets some nice reviews (negative ones typically center on how it is not so great upgrade from S710, which is irrelevant to me).
For example - I know that S730 is one of those devices affected by lack of proper drivers, but is it so painful? Despite possibility of resolving this problem by HTC - I never read anything about it being seriously lacking in terms of rendering graphics (which again - doesn't mean it isn't).
All opinions very welcome.
Thanks.
Fertesz said:
Hi,
I still intend to obtain this smartphone, yet I thought I could get some opinions from people who actually own S730. I've read a bunch of reviews, but I am aware that reviewers might have skipped some issues (as proven with this driver issue and what TyTN II owners wrote on this topic). I mean - plain opinions, what do you like/dislike about the phone.
I newer owned a smartphone before and I am attracted to the keyboard+keypad idea (I own Nokia 6820), which leaves me with quite a narrow set of choices. S730 looks good and gets some nice reviews (negative ones typically center on how it is not so great upgrade from S710, which is irrelevant to me).
For example - I know that S730 is one of those devices affected by lack of proper drivers, but is it so painful? Despite possibility of resolving this problem by HTC - I never read anything about it being seriously lacking in terms of rendering graphics (which again - doesn't mean it isn't).
All opinions very welcome.
Thanks.
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I changed from HTC TyTN (I). I am really satisfied. TyTN was very good, but I hated touch screen. Now I am completely accustomed to non-touch screen and am satisfied. I don't play games so I even didn't check out that graphics driver issue. The only one thing I dislike about this phone is the lack of RAM. But it's also not so bad - I just have to restart my phone once a day. Also this was the same about TyTN, it went better with ROM upgrade (which I am now just waiting for). I know Nokia and Sony Ericsson (I had also P910) and you can't compare any other OS with Windows Mobile, it's best. I can absolutely recommend this phone to all men who use phone to work or to geeks.
HTC S730
I have had mine for about a month now and find it to be a little anemic. There is a memory leak problem which may or may not have a resolution. There are also features in these phones which do not seem to be activated ie... GPS (which is neither here nor there to me), but what does concern me is the lack of HSDPA services which this phone is advertised to have. There are several permutations of this phone including the Softbank X03HT which seems to have more of the radio active than the models being pushed on the market by HTC direct. I am about fed up with mine and am going to go to something with a more robust chip set such as the new HP models which are more business centric. It is unfortunate because you get roped in to paying a lot of money for features that you expect but do not get.
On a positive note though the senior members of this form are very adept at manipulating the software and documenting what can be done to make this phone more useful.
I really like mine, the memory issue is starting to slow me down in some places since I got used to actually having a smartphone (first one for me too) I watch video's and play games on it. Compaired to my old phone its night and day better so I cannot complain about that yet. Could it be better for the specs? Of course it could but until HTC or someone cooks something up what is is. Just keep the memory clean and you will be happy I love the keybard, I started texting heavily near the end of my old phones life and it was killing me. Same for online usage. A few days ago I learned that I can hold the button down for the secondary press instead of having to hit function... Small things that you wouldnt think about make it good.
I am happy with Edge speeds here in Texas, my old phones CDMA speed was slower than edge so eh, and I think last month I used almost 120 megs of data. Not a lot but enough.
As to their lack of HSDPA support, it never was advertised to have 3g here in the states, a few seller sites miss represented it but on HTC's site they never said it had the radio for the states. Stupid I agree but its not for the states and they never said it would work on 3g here.
If I was coming from the s710 which had better drivers or another well supported phone then I might be less satisfied, but I really enjoy this phone.
I'm really satisfied, love it for being a smartphone with no touchscreen. I hope the few bugs I've found so far could be resolved with a future upgrade. I have just two weeks on it and very happy, resolved the memeory issue with oxio closeapps, so pretty satified.
I like it, I changed from a nokia n91 8gb. I wanted to try windows mobile on a phone. It's a small phone, that looks normal, but it has great features. WiFi, 3G, fast processor, keyboard, high res screen, bluetooth,...
Imo it has everything a phone should have, except for the gps(it would rock if they fixed that!). The memory is not such a big issue, if you would run out of memory, you can use the taskmanager to close some apps.
I must say that WM6 is a little bit buggier than symbian, but it's not annoying.
I also love the program coreplayer, I can play high quality divx-movies without converting, like the prison break episodes. On my previous phone, i had to convert those, because the program(smartmovie) and the phone couldn't handle such files.
It's a very good phone. a bit too bulky but the keyboard is REALLY good. I makes a lot of difference. You can type anywhere in a very user friendly fashion.
The well publicized memory problem is just a concern, not an issue. I run a free RAM application once in a while and get on with life.
Video driver is good enough for small movies. It runs approx at same speed as my old Qtek8310 which had a slower clock.
Could be a bit faster with the menus but it's not really annoying. It's windows under the hood...
I use it for GPS tomtom and it's cool with external BT receiver. G3 in Europe is a blast!
I would recommend that device.
My only concern so far, besides the lack of gps, is its responsiveness. Considering the S730 is supposed to be a pretty powerful phone, I find it a bit slow opening menus, turning the screen, etc.
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My only concern so far, besides the lack of gps, is its responsiveness. Considering the S730 is supposed to be a pretty powerful phone, I find it a bit slow opening menus, turning the screen, etc.
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that was my first impression too: a bit on the slow side. But... surprise surprise... after getting a SDHC memory card (and not the standard old-fashion SD card I used to have earlier in my wings) all went much faster! and i really mean fast!!! Overall I am very happy and fully satisfied with my wings. just keeping a constant eye on the memory, and using an external gps, and all goes very well...
hey all!
i use my S730 since 1 month here in europe. it works pretty fine with HSDPA, WIFI etc.
i use it as a real business-tool every day. speed and memory is okay for me as i use a 2GB memory-card.
the only really big problem i have with that device is the battery-run. i have to use 2 batteries to keep it alive for the hole day without charging. specially when you use HSDPA the battery runs so fast.
all together a nice tool for daily usage of communication (phone, mail, chat ...)
hope the developers will solve that battery problem for the future.
So, if I make the results from contributions above - poor battery life, speed is not so fast as we expected, we are waiting for new ROM to solve the memory lack, we are waiting for new ATI graphics drivers, we are frustrated that GPS is really not working as HTC announced - and we hope that HTC will be so polite, that they cook the new rom which maybe solve some described problems - in that case S730 is really great smartphone.
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So, if I make the results from contributions above - poor battery life, speed is not so fast as we expected, we are waiting for new ROM to solve the memory lack, we are waiting for new ATI graphics drivers, we are frustrated that GPS is really not working as HTC announced - and we hope that HTC will be so polite, that they cook the new rom which maybe solve some described problems - in that case S730 is really great smartphone.
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Hmm, altough what you mentioned above - yes, it is. Probably because these problems are little blown up. I migrated from TyTN which can be considered to be "top class" and I am really very satisfied.
rooomish said:
So, if I make the results from contributions above - poor battery life, speed is not so fast as we expected, we are waiting for new ROM to solve the memory lack, we are waiting for new ATI graphics drivers, we are frustrated that GPS is really not working as HTC announced - and we hope that HTC will be so polite, that they cook the new rom which maybe solve some described problems - in that case S730 is really great smartphone.
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I agree with you in everything except one detail: I don't recall HTC announcing that the S730 would have gps (at least not in my country).
The phone was never advertised as having GPS, but since it shares the chip with the TYTNII it has GPS abilities. Now like with some other phones they could choose to support it, but thats kinda lame, they would sell a whole lot more of these things if it supported it out of the box.
Thanks guys
So, I assume that this RAM issue works kinda like in case of PC - computer becomes less responsive after several days w/o restart? Despite my ignorance on what technically causes this problem, I guess that this is common to pretty much all smartphones/PDA'a/whatever - I mean those 'more powerful' devices (gimme a break - my first PC had a processor few times weaker than S730!).
And as I understand, there is software that helps you deal with lack of free RAM. Is it build-in (don't think so...),or you have to buy/download it?
(OK, I googled up Oxios, mentioned by Litoven and I see it's freeware Funny thing - the post that mentioned it was the first thing I got when searched the google)
Another thing that I don't get: vrolok71 mentioned that his device's speed improved after getting a SDHC memory card... Could someone please explain what is so special about it - isn't it just an additional space, like most memory cards?
As for battery life - I already asked it in another thread and I believe that those conectivity options (3G, WiFi, bluetooth, etc.) are the ones that drain bettery most (this was kinda confirmed here too). So it seems that I can extend bettery life when I have too (trips?), by using standard connections, right? Some people reported a reasonable battery life, extending to few days w/o recharge. They weren't sitting on 3G and WiFi (not all the time at least) though.
As for upgrades from HTC - this whole classaction thing (I am impressed with this - I really am) resulted in, as I believe, an upgrade coming. Regardless if it means the drivers (as it seems - not, and that kinda makes HTC.... "unfriendly" company, and this sucks), it will supposedly affect S730's performance. In a good way I hope
Thank you for all the replies You have a great community here. All replies help really - nothing beats honest user opinions. Glad I found this forum
Oh - and about GPS: I don't believe it was advertised as having GPS, but certainly HTC (intentionally I guess) allowed some rumours to arise (pre-production model), which surely made S730 more interesting. Marketing I suppose.
Somewhat, but just like a computer you can keep your memory clear. I leave my PC on for months at a time without reobooting and dont run into problems. And most of what I do is memory intensive.
The program I use to keep my memory clear is build in taskamanger for closing things that dont have that option, and SK Tools (free to download) which has a good memory cleaner that will go in and free up the other stuff that isnt being used. But yes eventaully a quick reboot is the easiest way to just free it up again.
Some of what can speed it up with using the memory card is installing programs to this, or dumping your temporary internet files to the memory card instead of the phones memory / storage space. That type of thing can help performance a little.
When actively using those connections they will drain the battery a little faster, but without using them they dont affect it too much. Even using Edge I can drain my battery in a day easily, just depends on how much your using the phone.
OK, maybe I need to clean my CPU memory more intensively, or maybe it's just Microsoft Thanks for the reply anyway
I guess I'll have to get used to new routine - keeping memory clean. Not sure how painful this'll be, but it sounds like a reasonable thing to do. I mean - closing after you're done (with particular app).
Yeah, I'll never really now what battery life will be for me, unless I actually use the phone on day-to-day basis. Info gathered here gives me hope though.
Nice day to you all.
Fertesz said:
I guess I'll have to get used to new routine - keeping memory clean. Not sure how painful this'll be, but it sounds like a reasonable thing to do. I mean - closing after you're done (with particular app).
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But remember - that is just the first half. Second is to free memory. To this you can use some "hibernator". E.g. Oxios Hibernate (freeware) or some task manager which has this feature built in - e.g. Smarttoolkit (freeware). Otherwise you help yourself just a little.
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Somewhat, but just like a computer you can keep your memory clear. I leave my PC on for months at a time without reobooting and dont run into problems. And most of what I do is memory intensive.
The program I use to keep my memory clear is build in taskamanger for closing things that dont have that option, and SK Tools (free to download) which has a good memory cleaner that will go in and free up the other stuff that isnt being used. But yes eventaully a quick reboot is the easiest way to just free it up again.
Some of what can speed it up with using the memory card is installing programs to this, or dumping your temporary internet files to the memory card instead of the phones memory / storage space. That type of thing can help performance a little.
When actively using those connections they will drain the battery a little faster, but without using them they dont affect it too much. Even using Edge I can drain my battery in a day easily, just depends on how much your using the phone.
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I have found that when I use a memorycleaner like SKTools or Oxios, it crashes the cellphone: I cannot get any network and I cannot make phonecalls anymore - SMS is still functional.
The only thing I can do is reboot to get it going again.
Anyone has the same experience and/or a solution?
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I have found that when I use a memorycleaner like SKTools or Oxios, it crashes the cellphone: I cannot get any network and I cannot make phonecalls anymore - SMS is still functional.
The only thing I can do is reboot to get it going again.
Anyone has the same experience and/or a solution?
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Seems weird to me.. Does it happen every time you use Oxios or SKTools, or just sometimes?
Hi everyone
I want to buy this phone, but before that I would like to know from you guys
if you found any disadvantages of it ??
and is it really that I cannot use bluetooth to send file and music ...atc things
because WM 7 dont support it ????
wish you all to help me..
Hi, I got my HD7 delivered this afternoon and have traditionallly used HTC hardware from the HTC Exec upwards. The thing about the so called all singing, all dancing HD7 is that it's made in the guise of an iphone which means that unlike previous HTC's and windows OS you cannot interrogate this phone at all.
You have no access to the storage space, you can't arbitrarily use certain types of apps other than the limited few on the market place. Any exchange or updating of information has to be done via Zune or Windows Live.
Example : A great little app by the name of PIM Backup. Backed up email, sms's, any callse made that day, tasks, contacts.....basically any change of information was backed up automatically that day when you scheduled. You could even port the back ups to other HTC devices. Now, unless you've got a windows live account, you can't back up or sync previous information........not even via active sync as the usb on the HTC is purely for charging the phone and not for communication.
Windows Media Player has always been piss poor on all HTC devices so a beautiful little app call TCPMP allowed you to do all the things windows player couldn't do i.e play various types of media files without the need for conversion.......now, you can't use it because there's no way to port it onto your device.
In a nutshell you've got no controll over the device or the hardward and the phone itself is frustratingly poor.
Will happily sell this phone to anyone who wants to buy it off me as can't send it back now as it's my second choice after returning an equally poor Dell Steak.
Go for the HD2..................beautiful piece of hardware and fully customisable and can be plugged directly into PC via usb which gives you access to the storage on the phone itself.
I think the best option would be to read the many reviews online and also look at videos on Youtube. There are also websites that allow you to browse the Windows Market place so you can get a feel for what apps are available.
I have had my HD7 for 2 months now (since launch) and even though there are a few bugs and like the poster above said this phone is locked down, I wouldn't part with it now. Apps are appearing all the time (remember it's 2 months old, so pretty much a baby, Android and Apple are much older and dated looking systems), MS hasn't yet released any bug fixes or improvements but they are on the way.
Unlike the poster above, I think the HD7 is much better than the HD2 with WM 6.5, I have been a Windows Mobile (WinCE) users for about 10 years, the HD2 finally was the best Windows Mobile phone ever! The problem? Windows Mobile is dead! If you buy an HD2 now you're wasting your money. Outside of xda-devs, no one is developing for it anymore. Yes you can fudge Androind onto the HD2 (which I have), but that's just like having Windows Mobile anyway. Go figure!!!
If you want something to customise to hell, go for Android, if you want a phone that is groundbreaking go for WP7, if you want a phone with a well (and now looking dated) echo system, then go for Apple.
Or why don't you find a store that will let you hold one to try?
There is also this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=847822 (note: it is the sticky of this forum) to look at.
Closed because there are enough of these thread.
hello everybody, i would like to ask some questions about windows phone 8
First of all i want to inform that i was an owner of a samsung omnia 7 for almost 2 years, then when i decided to buy a new device all those windows phone 8 costed 400euro and that was a no deal for me, so i moved to an android device, now that almost all high end windows phone 8 devices cost max 250 euros i m thinking to switch back to windows phone.
But i would like some information for some Apps that i think are mandatory for me,i use maxim 10 apps and maybe less just the most important ones
1. Viber, does it makes phone calls and does it works on the background, to recive a phone call or a message when the phone is locked ?
2.Whats App the same, does it recives a message when the phone is locked ?
+ notification for both
3. navigation, i heard that there is nokia drive available for other devices, i would like to buy a SAMSUNG ATIV S, although i m interested in nokia lumia 820 (but its dimensions-weight-resolution are disapointing). So does the navigation system works, does it displays traffic load ? i live in munich.
4. i dont remember good but i guess the integraded facebook messanger works when the phone is locked right ?
please reliable answers, thanks in advance!
1 & 2) It should work fine with push notifications, same as on WP7, but I don't use them so I can't really say.
3) Nokia Drive (now called Here Drive) is available for all WP8 devices in some markets (including the US, I don't know about Munich). In other markets, it may be possible to trick the Store into allowing you to install it anyhow for non-Nokia devices (working on that). The app's routing is supposedly traffic-aware, but it does not display traffic itself, and I've found its time estimates to be a little worse than those of the Mango built-in navigation app. On the other hand, the app itself is better in many ways. The built-in Maps app does still display traffic and can compute directions, it just won't follow them or speak them to you.
4) Correct, so long as the phone is not in Battery Saver mode or unable to get a data connection.
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1 & 2) It should work fine with push notifications, same as on WP7, but I don't use them so I can't really say.
3) Nokia Drive (now called Here Drive) is available for all WP8 devices in some markets (including the US, I don't know about Munich). In other markets, it may be possible to trick the Store into allowing you to install it anyhow for non-Nokia devices (working on that). The app's routing is supposedly traffic-aware, but it does not display traffic itself, and I've found its time estimates to be a little worse than those of the Mango built-in navigation app. On the other hand, the app itself is better in many ways. The built-in Maps app does still display traffic and can compute directions, it just won't follow them or speak them to you.
4) Correct, so long as the phone is not in Battery Saver mode or unable to get a data connection.
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well i cant say that the push notifications were working correctly on wp7 many problems (i had samsung omnia 7) but i have a hope that in wp8 the situation is better!!
thank you very much for your responce, i m really thinking to buy a wp8 device anyway, samsung ativ s, too bad that nokia 820 has ugly dimensions-weight and low resolution, now that the prices have dropped so much and as i said i had wp7 for 2years and i really feel special with this os
I've got the ATIV S myself, it's a nice phone. Check which model you get though; they have slightly different specs (the T899M supports LTE, the other one has a newer Bluetooth spec).
Regrets, I’ve had a few. Been a lurker here for many years, after I purchased my XDA many moons ago. Really happy with it at the time and the custom roms and bits you cleaver guys developed for wm5, updated to wm6…but the phone was frustrating slow and had a habit of crashing.
I upgraded to a HTC HD Mini, again thank you for all the upgrades you guys did… wm6.5, something I wouldn’t have the first clue about. I recently damaged the LCD with isopropyl and had to replace the LCD and digitiser….whilst waiting for parts, and with the pretence that I potentially couldn’t fix the phone I ordered a Nokia Lumia 820.
I’ve had the Nokia 820 wp8 for 48 hours, I feel as if I’ve purchased a box of chocolates but can’t get past the cellophane.
I had to sign in to my Hotmail account to download a unit converter app, now the phone is receiving my Hotmail emails and I can’t uninstall it. Just done a factory reset.
Every time I pick the phone up it wants me to sign in, connect to wifi or gsm…I can’t even explore the files on the phone. Before I send the phone back is there a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel or have I made a mistake sticking with Microsoft, as an old fart I was hoping for some familiarity.
Charlie.
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Regrets, I’ve had a few. Been a lurker here for many years, after I purchased my XDA many moons ago. Really happy with it at the time and the custom roms and bits you cleaver guys developed for wm5, updated to wm6…but the phone was frustrating slow and had a habit of crashing.
I upgraded to a HTC HD Mini, again thank you for all the upgrades you guys did… wm6.5, something I wouldn’t have the first clue about. I recently damaged the LCD with isopropyl and had to replace the LCD and digitiser….whilst waiting for parts, and with the pretence that I potentially couldn’t fix the phone I ordered a Nokia Lumia 820.
I’ve had the Nokia 820 wp8 for 48 hours, I feel as if I’ve purchased a box of chocolates but can’t get past the cellophane.
I had to sign in to my Hotmail account to download a unit converter app, now the phone is receiving my Hotmail emails and I can’t uninstall it. Just done a factory reset.
Every time I pick the phone up it wants me to sign in, connect to wifi or gsm…I can’t even explore the files on the phone. Before I send the phone back is there a glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel or have I made a mistake sticking with Microsoft, as an old fart I was hoping for some familiarity.
Charlie.
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I'm sorry. What is wrong with what you've just said? android and ios are the same. You can't use a marketplace without signing in. and the files are mostly subordinate to the apps that can read them, android is an exception for what as been for a long time in the phone market, but it does the whole contacts/gmail/etc thing as wp8. You might be able to disable email syncro though, if you dislike that much reading email on a phone. Can you explain to us WHY did you buy a smartphone if you don't use any of the characteristics that makes one so?
The wp8 experience is one of seamless integration with social networks, work networks (email, office documents),apps services, you can't have that without a Microsoft account.
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I'm sorry. What is wrong with what you've just said? android and ios are the same. You can't use a marketplace without signing in. and the files are mostly subordinate to the apps that can read them, android is an exception for what as been for a long time in the phone market, but it does the whole contacts/gmail/etc thing as wp8. You might be able to disable email syncro though, if you dislike that much reading email on a phone. Can you explain to us WHY did you buy a smartphone if you don't use any of the characteristics that makes one so?
The wp8 experience is one of seamless integration with social networks, work networks (email, office documents),apps services, you can't have that without a Microsoft account.
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Thanks for the reply,
I guess I was hoping wp8 was going to be more like windows, for example the phone has built in gps but I have no way of accessing it…ie grid reference.
The reason I went for a smart phone, ie htc hd mini is ease of carrying a single device when traveling. I don’t need wifi or a GSM reception to use the htc for satnav (map grid and tomtom), radio or to watch films or listen to mp3’s.
For work, I need a phone, camera, gps, removable sd, replaceable battery and entertainment when stuck in boring hotel rooms.
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Thanks for the reply,
I guess I was hoping wp8 was going to be more like windows, for example the phone has built in gps but I have no way of accessing it…ie grid reference.
The reason I went for a smart phone, ie htc hd mini is ease of carrying a single device when traveling. I don’t need wifi or a GSM reception to use the htc for satnav (map grid and tomtom), radio or to watch films or listen to mp3’s.
For work, I need a phone, camera, gps, removable sd, replaceable battery and entertainment when stuck in boring hotel rooms.
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lol first.. what use is gps without a map. and wp8 has native offline maps ready to download. you're trying to use a modern smartphone like a nokia 6600, that's why you're having problem. Try using it the way it's supposed to - the modern always online world.
By the way, yes, you absolutely can disable email sync (not sure why you'd want to; email sync is incredibly handy, one of the things I use every single day on my phone, but OK) either when you set up the account, or by going to Settings -> Email + Accounts and tapping on the account in question.
Installing apps does, indeed, require store access (OK, mostly; there's limited support for sideloading, and one of the things the hacking community is working on is improving that). Store access is tied to you Microsoft account (as on Win8 or Steam or something like that).
The old days of "it's a handheld computer!" (not that that was ever entirely true) are largely gone, although, again, this is the kind of thing that we're trying to bring back.
If you download the maps onto the device it includes a license for worlwide offline navigation (in supported countries - that means: if they have the mapping data, which they have I believe for ~ 80 countries worldwide). The same Maps are used in Here Maps and if downloaded work offline as well.
There is no file explorer though. If you transfer files to the Documents folder they will show up in the office hub. If you put files in the music folder they will show up in the Music Hub, etc.
So all in all you can't be completely offline due to the application store but otherwise you should be able to do everything you want with your WP8 device, although it works differently.
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By the way, yes, you absolutely can disable email sync (not sure why you'd want to; email sync is incredibly handy, one of the things I use every single day on my phone, but OK) either when you set up the account, or by going to Settings -> Email + Accounts and tapping on the account in question.
Installing apps does, indeed, require store access (OK, mostly; there's limited support for sideloading, and one of the things the hacking community is working on is improving that). Store access is tied to you Microsoft account (as on Win8 or Steam or something like that).
The old days of "it's a handheld computer!" (not that that was ever entirely true) are largely gone, although, again, this is the kind of thing that we're trying to bring back.
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There are many annoying things about my HD mini wm6.5, but since I've fixed the screen and got the reception back as good as new (antenna connection) I've found a new respect for the phone. I'm thinking about sending the Nokia wp8 back, prematurely it feels as I haven't received the new sim or sd card yet, so I haven't actually used it. I'm also considering purchasing another HD mini as back up.
I wish I had the level of understanding you guys have, I'd love the ability to be able to program and customize the device to my liking but the reality is I'm hanging on coattails. I was hoping wp8 would be an improved version of wm6.5.
Thanks for the advice.
Charlie.
The difference between Windows Phone and Windows Mobile is deeper than the branding, but the branding is intended as a tip-off that they are *not* the same thing.
Windows Phone is a smartphone in the sense that iOS is a smartphone; it's pretty "smart" for a phone, but even Microsoft wouldn't have marketed it as a "PocketPC".
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There are many annoying things about my HD mini wm6.5, but since I've fixed the screen and got the reception back as good as new (antenna connection) I've found a new respect for the phone. I'm thinking about sending the Nokia wp8 back, prematurely it feels as I haven't received the new sim or sd card yet, so I haven't actually used it. I'm also considering purchasing another HD mini as back up.
I wish I had the level of understanding you guys have, I'd love the ability to be able to program and customize the device to my liking but the reality is I'm hanging on coattails. I was hoping wp8 would be an improved version of wm6.5.
Thanks for the advice.
Charlie.
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The point is that there is very little amount of "personalization" possible. Try to use it instead as it is.
I have been looking all around the internet for a way to network a Windows Phone 8 to a homegroup. I am an Android user and will remain one, however I would like to also have the benefits of a WP. I bought a Nokia Lumia 520 (T-Mobile), however I have no plans to activate it. I bought the $99 phone to access a NAS, upload and dl content from it. All I have found at this point is how to connected it to WiFi when I google Network Windows Phone 8. I am not trying to connect it to the internet I am trying to network the phone. I would like to be able to map the phones memory as a drive. Does anybody know how to do this?
Not even close to possible, not at this time.
First of all, WP8 has no support for SMB (the network protocol used for Windows messaging). There are apps which implement it, at least partially, but that's it.
Second, the vast majority of the WP8 file system is inaccessible to users. All that you would be able to access is things like documents and music, and the isolated storage of whatever app you used.
Third, why would you do this? I mean, you can buy a few gigs of NAS for a hell of a lot cheaper than $100, with better performance characteristics and without reserving a bunch of space for an OS.
I've held for some time that WP8 devices should be able to connect to Homegroups (and ideally other SMB networks) but MS doesn't seem to care. That was mostly so I could transfer files onto and off of the phone while using it as my phone, though, not as some ludicrously overpriced bit of networked storage...
GoodDayToDie said:
Not even close to possible, not at this time.
First of all, WP8 has no support for SMB (the network protocol used for Windows messaging). There are apps which implement it, at least partially, but that's it.
Second, the vast majority of the WP8 file system is inaccessible to users. All that you would be able to access is things like documents and music, and the isolated storage of whatever app you used.
Third, why would you do this? I mean, you can buy a few gigs of NAS for a hell of a lot cheaper than $100, with better performance characteristics and without reserving a bunch of space for an OS.
I've held for some time that WP8 devices should be able to connect to Homegroups (and ideally other SMB networks) but MS doesn't seem to care. That was mostly so I could transfer files onto and off of the phone while using it as my phone, though, not as some ludicrously overpriced bit of networked storage...
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I already have a NAS. I wanted to be able to pull video and music files from the NAS and on to my phone. I also wanted to be able to use the NAS as a source of storage for the phone. It would have been sweet to have my NAS as a mapped drive on my WP..... I am saddened to know that my Android can kind of do this with SAMBA, but my WP can not. I have seen many people get blasted on here for complaining about WP after they buy the phone and not doing the research before hand. I guess I shouldn't have assumed a windows phone would integrate into my windows network.
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I did thank you for answering my question, however I didn't overlook your desire to degrade my post. I never said I wanted to use it as an overpriced NAS, I said I wanted to be able to map the memory of the phone to transfer files off of my NAS and on to my phone.
Apologies for misunderstanding your intentions; when you mentioned connecting the phone to the network and mapping its storage as drive, but not activating it, that's what it sounded like. Yeah... while it is too bad you bought the phone without checking this first, one really would assume that Windows Phone 8 could connect to Windows networks...
I used Metro File manager to access SMB in the past, I don't know what are you trying to do.