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[Q] why all the craze for GB when its full of bugs?

Whys everyone "OMG! I CANT WAIT FOR GB" or "CANT WAIT TO GET YOUR GB ROM" etc?
The OFFICIAL i9000 gb update has been pulled because its so full of issues still? Do people really think its a good idea?!
I loaded a few to try em out. They were all garbage.

actually if your flashaholic it really matters it's their choice.. for the positive note it gives feedback to the dev to work for improvements and the end result is a much polished rom. somehow when it will be stable you will be using it. give thanks to all the users who act as a ginuia pig for that cause....

I am thankful for the GB drop and all the devs that work on it. However, I have flashed probably a thousand things in the last year. Including spl and radios. The gingerbread rom bricked my phone when going back to stock and now I am using the backup G1 hoping Samsung is able to fix it without charging me for the repair, I am under the one year warranty. So just a warning read a whole thread before you try flashing these GB roms. They can kill your phone if you try to go back to stock.

Well then you have not tried Continuim 5 B3. I have tried all the others and find I fast and smooth and am using it as my daily driver. I am addicted to flashing so I will keep trying other gingerbreads but you should at least check it out.

C5 is nice. It's more about staying up with the times for some but it is smooth. This is the same question when froyo came out and I get it but we are in the early stages. When this is lined out you wont move back and all of the people hyping it will test and work out the bugs for the rest. Be happy the hype is going on and others like me test it. You will be rocking it eventually I guarantee.
longr6 said:
Well then you have not tried Continuim 5 B3. I have tried all the others and find I fast and smooth and am using it as my daily driver. I am addicted to flashing so I will keep trying other gingerbreads but you should at least check it out.
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My only issue currently is the gallery loads like garbage, otherwise I've had almost no problems.

I enjoy flashing trying the latest things. Our Devs will work out the bugs and make us some beautiful smooth running roms i am sure! And i will flash everyone most likely haha...

longr6 said:
Well then you have not tried Continuim 5 B3. I have tried all the others and find I fast and smooth and am using it as my daily driver. I am addicted to flashing so I will keep trying other gingerbreads but you should at least check it out.
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Used it. It lasted the longest. Tried all their betas. The worst with that was the keyboard. It acted whacky as ****!!

im running continuum v5 and it is very stable.. dont know what you are talking about

emooheo said:
im running continuum v5 and it is very stable.. dont know what you are talking about
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Give the keyboard a day or two. It thinks you long press buttons when you don't and auto correct is WAY off

Some people just like bugs I guess, cutting edge and all.
Caution swyping! Read at your own risk.

Simple
Something different
Although flashing boot loaders its risky business
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Dont know about you but i was late to android espcially after the i9000 froyo roms dropped. Running the gb roms helps people that werent into development before reach out into dev work. Making the whole community stronger. Thats just my view on it. Hopefully with a little bit of reading and practice even I can contribute.
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joe3681 said:
Used it. It lasted the longest. Tried all their betas. The worst with that was the keyboard. It acted whacky as ****!!
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I have not had much of a problem with the GB keyboard. Only issue was FC when going to about phone. I just switch to the Samsung keyboard if I need to get there. I am looking forward to RC whatever when it posts again. You got to love the battery life. I was happily surprised.

joe3681 said:
Give the keyboard a day or two. It thinks you long press buttons when you don't and auto correct is WAY off
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I'm running Continuum V.5 RC2 and it is as good as anything else I've ran on my Cappy. I use Swype exclusively, so I haven't seen any keyboard issues.

gorgy76 said:
actually if your flashaholic it really matters it's their choice.. for the positive note it gives feedback to the dev to work for improvements and the end result is a much polished rom. somehow when it will be stable you will be using it. give thanks to all the users who act as a ginuia pig for that cause....
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That pretty much sums it up. LOL.
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ROM Building

THIS IS GROUND ZERO for me. LG released a phone with one of the best hardware setups i have seen on any phone, especially with the dual ram dual channel memory. those 2 things coupled with the dual core processor, make this phone incredibly smooth. i am currently running Thriller on it, and though the Dev for said rom bailed out on us, i still have hope that this phone will continue to improve, and those of us who see the true potential of this device, will continue to have faith, and work with each other to make improvements.
personally, i'm wanting to start development using the ICS SDK and hopefully port a great version of the software onto this phone. i know it's ambitious, and i know it would take a long time, BUT, this is something that i want to do, to learn the skills of rom building, and possibly make a career out of it (i dunno, get on at Google as a Dev there or something?)
i know that to port ICS onto this device, i'm going to have to write drivers for the rom from scratch, and as i have no prior knowledge of how to do that, it may take a while, but seeing as it all runs of the same base kernal as Linux, as well as MacOS X, those who actually do have knowledge of how to do this, could be a great help. if anyone is interested in helping me in this journey, PM me. "There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why... I dream of things that never were, and ask why not?" well, i say WHY NOT?!?! if there's a will, there's a way, right? who knows, maybe we'll get ICS ported before LG even announces that they're gonna be upgrading to it (newer-as of 2011 dunno exactly when-google polocies state that any phone launched with an android OS are required to update to the newest OS within 18 months of launch)? now wouldn't that be a smack in the face to LG? a bunch of unpatient people who were unwilling to wait for their bloody port to a new version of software, banding to gether to make it happen before they can. PM me if you're with me. i'll give personal, private contact information to anyone who sounds at least as serious as i do about this.- IrishPunk
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Use the search function on how to build roms and yeah we do have plenty of devs in here.

Agreed, when I saw gtg was gone it was like a balloon deflated. DG is gone too. We may never get fully functional CWM, and doubtful the O3D ROMs will port fully.
Guess its good I still have a few days to swap for the SGS II.
I guess I will have to take my humble pie as I do. I never thought I would take the Thrill back, I chose the Thrill knowing the SGS II was right there. But, I don't want to kick myself in a month when that window is done, and the used price of the Thrill has already tanked.
Sent from my LG Thrill Faux G

I'm past my return window, and it just sucks that this phone is a month old, and everyone is losing hope and returning it. I'll just stick it out with my multiple batteries and learn to work on it.
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Everyone is bailing too early. I mean this Will get GB it's just a matter of time and patience which seems to be lacking with a Lot of people who bought this phone. Regardless though I assume building a Rom will be easier once GB get's rolled out although I could be wrong.

Patience will pay off in the end. If for nothing else, than to fix the battery life which seems to be what's running everyone off. I had the horrible Dell Streak when we waited for like a year for Froyo. If I can do that, I can wait on GB.
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yup yup
I learned alot about this stuff messing with my inspire.. when i heard about the thrill coming out i was like "finally theres something like the evo 3d for att" it was a no brainer when my upgrade came a few days ago.
I did tell myself that i would give the phone a week to wow me.. or id be exchanging it for a SGS2.. however.. every day i read these forums, and the O3D forums and im constantly being amazed.. ive found an excelent rom and have almost worked out all the mms, 4g issues from using a O3D rom..
everyday im just a little closer to friday and the trade back.. but every day im amazed just a little more.. id love to learn the rom building process but i frankly do not have time.. every dev. ive ever dealt with has been more than courteous as long as i did make an attempt to look into the issue on my own first.. im excitedly awating CM7 for this phone and its almost there.. all i need now is an OC kernel to crank up this 1ghz dual core and ive got my daily user for the next 2 years..
I eagerly log in each day looking for what new tidbit is up and running.. i love being on the ground floor when everyone is bailing... the same happened for a couple of weeks with the inspire if you remember.. it was a pain to root.. but those that stuck in there found the wait to be worth it.. the same will happen with the Thrill.. im sure of it..
just hang in there guys and thank you to all the devs that are more knowledgeable than me. your work IS greatly appreciated.. your all my heroes..
Thanks again.. I think im in it for the long haul with the Thrill..

I started out using ROMs on the Streak, but have never tried to build one until now. Have you ever tried searching the forums for Android ROM building? Yeah good luck with that. I've even tried just googling Android froyo ROM creation, most of what comes up is for HTC.
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im not giving up on this phone.. its one of the best so far.. its so much fun having it .. lets just hope for a better tomorrow .. with roms all over ... like the good old days with the tilts

moe87 said:
im not giving up on this phone.. its one of the best so far.. its so much fun having it .. lets just hope for a better tomorrow .. with roms all over ... like the good old days with the tilts
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Oh wow haha I guess it started way before my Streak. I forgot all about my tilt 2 that I put all sorts of roms on.
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well..
if were gonna go back..
the hardest thing i ever did was put "3d" custom flash menus on my SonyEricsson W810i...
among.. other stuff..
but i believe the SEw819i was when i got the modding bug.. lol

Right now my concentration is on modding my Thrill and these original Xboxes that were just given to me Woot! Lol
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AzraelsVoice said:
I'm past my return window, and it just sucks that this phone is a month old, and everyone is losing hope and returning it. I'll just stick it out with my multiple batteries and learn to work on it.
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well how about you ask gtg465x for his kitchen, he's left the thrill, so he might be willing to help

If you do find the needed tools plz let me know. I'd love to try my hand at helping to develop for the thrill. I work for att and all my coworkers have ditched the thrill for the sg2 but I like the thrill way too much to leave it.
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Aah a fellow co-worker! Glad another AT&T employee is keeping it real with the thrill lol. I am always searching but don't come up with any results on LG Android Rom creation. Then if you ask in a post all you're gonna get is a smartass telling you to search for it. I'll find it one day!
Of course I've already got adb and the android sdk, I just need to know what I need to go with it.

Well you will need linux but here on the forums you can find something called Android Utility. Pretty much comes with everything you need to make roms, edit apks even some boot.img tools. For windows i have no clue, I do everything in linux. Good luck.

Aah once again Linux and I come face to face. I suppose it's time to bite the bullet.
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AzraelsVoice said:
Aah once again Linux and I come face to face. I suppose it's time to bite the bullet.
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Linux can be fun. I would suggest Ubuntu, also a lot of people run Linux in a virtual machine inside windows. If you have any questions feel free to pm me. I enjoy playing with Linux.
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Awesome, thanks. Gonna start downloading.
Reason# 1,000,001 Android is better than the iPhone. I can download Ubuntu our whatever else I want with my phone while at work.
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Dude, loving some Ubuntu! Where has this been all my life? I have the Android utility downloaded, but will have to wait for tomorrow because I have to download Java. Always something lol
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New Droid 4 Owner -- Need some advice

Hey guys! My contract from verizon is running up and I desperately need a new phone; but I still have unlimited 4G and I'm not going to let Verizon contract me into another phone and lose it! HAH What a joke, 2gb a month for the "cheapest" option? No thank you. So I went ahead and ordered a mint condition Droid 4 for a nice price It should arrive this Friday
I'm upgrading from a Thunderbolt (the old girl served me well) and I cannot, and I can't stress this enough, cannot WAIT to have a physical keyboard back. I used to to be a Blackberry Curve and Tour owner back in the day before I made the switch to Android.
My question to you guys is, what ROM should I run? I want a full experience, so no non-working mechanics so I will be staying away from the broken camera roms, at least til they're stable. Also, what other things should I know before getting my new phone?
Thanks, and I hope to be part of the xda droid 4 owning family in a couple of days

captainstarbucs said:
Hey guys! My contract from verizon is running up and I desperately need a new phone; but I still have unlimited 4G and I'm not going to let Verizon contract me into another phone and lose it! HAH What a joke, 2gb a month for the "cheapest" option? No thank you. So I went ahead and ordered a mint condition Droid 4 for a nice price It should arrive this Friday
I'm upgrading from a Thunderbolt (the old girl served me well) and I cannot, and I can't stress this enough, cannot WAIT to have a physical keyboard back. I used to to be a Blackberry Curve and Tour owner back in the day before I made the switch to Android.
My question to you guys is, what ROM should I run? I want a full experience, so no non-working mechanics so I will be staying away from the broken camera roms, at least til they're stable. Also, what other things should I know before getting my new phone?
Thanks, and I hope to be part of the xda droid 4 owning family in a couple of days
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If your looking for bug free myfishbear's Eclipse ROM is probably the way to go. As for other things to know, you will need to root and install safestrap recovery in order to install ROMs. I recommend the Droid 4 Utility ICS Only. That will allow you to root and also has a function to install safestrap.
And welcome to the D4 forums!
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kwyrt said:
If your looking for bug free myfishbear's Eclipse ROM is probably the way to go. As for other things to know, you will need to root and install safestrap recovery in order to install ROMs. I recommend the Droid 4 Utility ICS Only. That will allow you to root and also has a function to install safestrap.
And welcome to the D4 forums!
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Thank you! I was seriously expecting responses like "buy a better phone" or something. Quick question; do I have to flash radios like I did with the Thunderbolt? If I get stock gingerbread OS, should I upgrade to stock ICS and then root? Or will it not make a difference?
Thanks!

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Thank you! I was seriously expecting responses like "buy a better phone" or something. Quick question; do I have to flash radios like I did with the Thunderbolt? If I get stock gingerbread OS, should I upgrade to stock ICS and then root? Or will it not make a difference?
Thanks!
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I love my D4 You do not need to flash radios or anything like that. If it still has GB on it I would go ahead and update to ICS first and then root. That way you don't have to mess with root keeper or anything like that.

Thanks for the reply again! I will upgrade to ICS then root
It'll be here tomorrow, can't wait!

I suggest rooting stock and freezing a bunch of the garbage ICS apps that you will never use.

Fwiw, I've recently bought a used D4 for the same reason
(High 5!) And have not installed a new rom. I've just rooted, mainly so I could freeze a few things and use rom toolbox's ad blocker. Not to take anything away from the devs who do great work, but personally I'm totally happy with the (rooted) stock ICS. I know JB is supposed to be snappier, but I'm not seeing any sluggishness anyway. Welcome to the D4 world-the keyboard is AWESOME, really.
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I'd prefer to install Eclipse rom because there is no bloat to freeze and it's really fast. Also, it gets rid of a few spy tools Moto and Verizon placed on the stock roms.
Moreover, when using safestrap (which is needed to flash a rom) you don't have to worry about screwing up your system because it prevents you from messing up the stock rom.

FedEx is terrible. My phone won't be here til tomorrow
Anyway.
I think I will try and use Eclpise first. It looks like what I am after

Another vote for Eclipse here
The JB ROMs, CM10, AOKP etc. are all very nice, but missing crucial features like camera flash and the HDMI port.

Does eclipse introduce any bugs? If it gives stock functionality without the stock bloat, I'll be changing my mind...
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The Kraken! said:
Does eclipse introduce any bugs? If it gives stock functionality without the stock bloat, I'll be changing my mind...
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Not noticed any bugs.
I find the (optional, flashed separately) speed tweaks to really hurt battery life, but the basic ROM (plus olegfusion's GSM patch) works just fine.

Thanks! In that case I'll probably try it out when my semester ends and I have time to tinker.

I want to tag in here, I recently purchased this phone and im from the Netherlands. I read that the Droid4 will have stock JB (4.2) support. The thing is, I am dutch and the phone isn't unlocked. Now i've been trying to understand if the update is possible for me and if the update is out allready (cant find anything about it)
Little background info:
I've had the desire Z when it intially launched and it broke down last month. Been using the desire for a month and im going nuts! Really missing a physical HD and when I started googling it seemde that the droid4 is made for me, but not being sold in stores in the NL.

It depends... what are running right now? what are you looking for? performance or battery life??????????????

I have not seen any news that this phone will get 4.2, but Motorola currently has the device listed among those that will receive 4.1 at some point (no date scheduled, though). There has not yet been an official stock release of any form of Jellybean to the Droid 4 so far.

Sorry for the late reply, I got the phone now and I saw that Hashtag is one of the core dev's for 4.1/4.2 AOKP/CM10. The phone is unlocked when upgrading to ICS via WiFi, so thats not a worry. The problem is that I cant get the data to work, ive posted about it here
Fixed! Was blind and didnt see this post Ideal for GSM users

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Sorry for the late reply, I got the phone now and I saw that Hashtag is one of the core dev's for 4.1/4.2 AOKP/CM10. The phone is unlocked when upgrading to ICS via WiFi, so thats not a worry. The problem is that I cant get the data to work, ive posted about it here
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I've never had much luck with GSM/UMTS data on Hashcode's ROMs. Stick with something like Eclipse ICS for now until Hashcode's ROMs mature a bit.

if I were you, I'd also go for the eclipse rom.
I had installed the jb rom at first, but somewhen it got really slow and apps began to crash, I also lost connection with my carrier more often then with the eclipse rom that I've changed to now.

captainstarbucs said:
Hey guys! My contract from verizon is running up and I desperately need a new phone; but I still have unlimited 4G and I'm not going to let Verizon contract me into another phone and lose it! HAH What a joke, 2gb a month for the "cheapest" option? No thank you. So I went ahead and ordered a mint condition Droid 4 for a nice price It should arrive this Friday
I'm upgrading from a Thunderbolt (the old girl served me well) and I cannot, and I can't stress this enough, cannot WAIT to have a physical keyboard back. I used to to be a Blackberry Curve and Tour owner back in the day before I made the switch to Android.
My question to you guys is, what ROM should I run? I want a full experience, so no non-working mechanics so I will be staying away from the broken camera roms, at least til they're stable. Also, what other things should I know before getting my new phone?
Thanks, and I hope to be part of the xda droid 4 owning family in a couple of days
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I just recently got a used Droid 4 myself, and I have to agree with ECLIPSE. It was the first rom I installed (immediately after I got the phone), and I rooted/safestrapped with the ICS Utility. It was an absolute breeze, and ECLIPSE is running wonderfully.

Waiting for the 4.2.2 release to flash a custom ROM?

Is anybody else waiting for HTC to release the 4.2.2 base and seeing what the devs do with it before flashing a custom ROM? I've had my One for about 2 weeks now and it's still unrooted and running the stock ROM (this is the longest I've gone so far).
Just wondering if I'm alone in thinking that the devs will come up with better ROMs based on 4.2 than they currently have out for 4.1

Other than quick toggles, I didn't see many stand out features vin the preview.
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4.2 isn't a huge step forward. There really is no point in waiting to root and unlock. It's still 'JellyBean' with a few extra features so the difference will be minimal, but I'm anxious for those quick settings myself. I'd say root and S-Off now to get it over with so you can flash immediately when 4.2 comes out.

I was going to wait too. But I got my phone two days ago and ended up flashing two days ago as well...
-flashaddict
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Not to sound like a lame-o but this is the first phone I've owned where I didn't feel the need to root it. Though I had similar feelings with my Epic 4G Touch a few years ago and ended up flashing probably 50 different ROMS, give or take.

adam.kelly2 said:
Not to sound like a lame-o but this is the first phone I've owned where I didn't feel the need to root it. Though I had similar feelings with my Epic 4G Touch a few years ago and ended up flashing probably 50 different ROMS, give or take.
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I feel the same way, I've never gone this long without rooting a phone/tablet, it's usually a week at most.

This is the same boat I am in. I am not doing any of the over the air updates so it will be easier to root when it gets to that point. I am actually quite impressed with the phone (coming from the Evo 4g), I've actually thought about keeping this thing stock...then I remember that it will only get faster if I root and flash.

Yup, stock and not rooted. Waiting for the 4.2.2 and hopefully a working flashable rom of the Google Edition One with everything stable. I really want lockscreen widgets. This is the first phone where I'm not willing to sacrifice the stability of the phone, because sense 5 is pretty damn good. I'd definitely prefer an equally stable AOSP rom though.

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Yup, stock and not rooted. Waiting for the 4.2.2 and hopefully a working flashable rom of the Google Edition One with everything stable. I really want lockscreen widgets. This is the first phone where I'm not willing to sacrifice the stability of the phone, because sense 5 is pretty damn good. I'd definitely prefer an equally stable AOSP rom though.
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Same here. I hope these awesome devs get the Google edition roms on here quick!
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mite be trading my s4 for the htc one real soon!! did u guys get the 4.2.2. update yet or still waiting?

P.Mobile said:
mite be trading my s4 for the htc one real soon!! did u guys get the 4.2.2. update yet or still waiting?
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Well.... if you look at some posts here from yesterday (2 posts up ) you will see the statement.... " Waiting for the 4.2.2 "

I waited a few weeks and started thinking that HTC dev unlock will wipe the device so I might as well get started. That and the process will be quicker once Sprint releases and development starts working to fix any of the unintended features on the new release.
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Flashed My First Rom

Just flashed my first ROM (Cataclysm). Needless to say I was very nervous but thanks to these forums I rooted and flashed pretty easily. My only question is, how to I avoid becoming addicted now....
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jtb79 said:
My only question is, how to I avoid becoming addicted now....
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Hi,
Never begin flashing stuff...
Go back to full stock and never unlock/root again...
Forget this nice and exciting moment (first flash), it's bad for you and your addiction, no longer look behind you, look ahead ...
Think about how you was very nervous, too much stress, maybe too dangerous for health and it's not worth...
Think about your phone, maybe to much stress and fear for him too, maybe it doesn't like you for now, save your relation with him, it is not yet too late...
Try to find help from a repentant flashaholic...
And the most important, leave XDA for always...
In any case welcome and congratulations...
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jtb79 said:
Just flashed my first ROM (Cataclysm). Needless to say I was very nervous but thanks to these forums I rooted and flashed pretty easily. My only question is, how to I avoid becoming addicted now....
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Welcome to the dark side! Once you enter there is no turning back!! Hope you enjoy the xda life

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Welcome to XDA! There's no turning back! Happy Flashing!

I wouldn't say there's no turning back. I used to flash every rom there was starting from the Samsung Captivate all the way through the HTC One. Starting from my Moto X, and now this phone, I haven't flashed a single rom. I guess stock android is just that good now. Of course, I always root and install gravity box, but who knows, maybe that will go away soon too with 5.0.

Well done for flashing the best rom already. U don't need to flash any others now anyway
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Once you start flashing....you can never go back.

Why didnt anyone warn me all those years ago?!
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jtb79 said:
My only question is, how to I avoid becoming addicted now....
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It'll pass, I've gone the other way and gone back to 100% stock (locked bootloaded and all!) as I got bored of flashing new stuff every (other) day. Android is at a point now where stock does everything I need it to

EddyOS said:
It'll pass, I've gone the other way and gone back to 100% stock (locked bootloaded and all!) as I got bored of flashing new stuff every (other) day. Android is at a point now where stock does everything I need it to
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I'll agree with that. I got hooked flashing all the time starting with cm9 on my devices. Flashing every single night etc. Did this for years. Only thing I have done is flashed Franco kernel on my N5 and have Gravity Box installed. Couldn't be happier.

I am in same boat too, just flashing kernels these days.
I have to have, Elemental for my usage, followed development before I had my N5. (Using since HOXL)
The rest, I may try, but usually go back to stock other then kernel.
Hence my desire for nexus, no skins to remove, just a tweak or two.
WR
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aooga said:
I wouldn't say there's no turning back. I used to flash every rom there was starting from the Samsung Captivate all the way through the HTC One. Starting from my Moto X, and now this phone, I haven't flashed a single rom. I guess stock android is just that good now. Of course, I always root and install gravity box, but who knows, maybe that will go away soon too with 5.0.
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I'm going to have to agree with you. A couple years ago, I was flashing constantly (multiple roms a day if I was feeling really crazy). Now, I just don't feel the need. Stock Android is rock-solid at this point and I don't feel like roms offer any meaningful improvement anymore. It was a whole different ballgame back in the CM7 days.

While I'm completely stock on the N5, and probably will be for a while...one of the inherent joys of having wizbang custom roms is that often times when other people pick up your phone, they seriously have no idea how to use it.
It's nerdy to think this is fun of course, but dammit...it is fun.

Flashing Rom is the only way imo.
however stock N5 is near perfect

jtb79 said:
Just flashed my first ROM (Cataclysm). Needless to say I was very nervous but thanks to these forums I rooted and flashed pretty easily. My only question is, how to I avoid becoming addicted now....
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Heh... it's addicting.
Much as I liked the stock stuff, I got used to the fancy stuff that I had running paranoid android 3.99 on my s3... so now I've been ROM jumping kk nightlies trying to find the best approximation. Beanstalk is where I've settled while I wait for PA to start putting out feature nightlies in the hammerhead stream.

I'd say that the feeling that you got when you flashed your first ROM is nothing compared to the feeling of getting out of your first bootloop or bad flash or your first buildbot actually booting. Knowing how to get out of those situations bring a sense of pride that you can only get from knowing what you are doing at a base level.
I'm talking about people on forums and not your mom or friend now, but so many people don't know the very basics of how these things work. More to the point they don't know of the potential they have (both good and bad). That all comes with time and exposure though. I still remember my first terminal script for apps2sd on Éclair.
It really doesn't matter what ROM or Kernel I am running because by the time I get done breaking it down and rebuilding it, it very rarely looks like the original version. Actually troubleshooting something and fixing it correctly, then that fix gets implemented into someone else's problem and you can talk them back from the edge of panic. That is the buzz for me.

I love my N5 on stock rom, but who knows when paranoid comes with all his features ill be tempted

mee too

I used to flash roms pretty often on my Desire HD but since I've gotten my Nexus 5 I haven't flashed a rom yet. I am however, unlocked, rooted, and using a custom recovery. I'm a cm fan so once they release a stable build with all the features I want I'm sure I'll flash cm11
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