Does anyone know exactly what is causing this problem because it continues to happen across different ROMs and different Radios. Is there some fundamental reason why the X1 can't maintain a connection with IM clients?
I'm on T-mobile in the UK and running the valkyrie_V3 WWE ROM. Windows live messenger will disconnect if i put the phone into standby for as little as a minute and sometimes even when I'm in the middle of messaging. I keep getting messages saying "wireless connection not available trying to reconnect" or something similar.
I've tried IM+ and while that doesn't give disconnection messages it's doing the same thing as i have tested it using different accounts.
I can't get ebuddy working on this ROM because it won't let me enter the password for some odd reason but that has had the same problem with other ROMS in the past.
Has anyone found a solution to this or is it something to do with T-mobile settings?
I should point out that throughout all this i maintain a good signal of at least 2 bars and according to the phone the data connection hasn't dropped.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks.
i used to use AOL's own mobile-based IM/chat client for AIM, and it always kept me connected without problems no matter what. only problem was it was INSANELY slow.
i've switched to slick, which i'm not crazy about, and i'm having the same problems as you. i'll randomly get disconnected with the phone sitting with full HSDPA reception, not going into sleep or standby....i thought it was just slick's crappy programming
Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.
i too have the same problem, we need the xda gurus to fix this, hopefully they would be able to do so in the near future
Solaris81 said:
Which network are you on?
Also are you 100% sure AOL used to stay connected because i thought the same thing about IM+ but a lot of my messages weren't getting returned. I signed into 2 different accounts, one on PC one on phone to test and it turned out the same thing was happening just not as obviously.
This is really frustrating, my old K800i used to stay connected to windows live for days at a time, my friends blackberry also has no trouble staying connected.
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pretty sure it was connected constantly. i had some pretty lengthy text sessions and i never got any error messages (IM not received, user not on, signed off, etc). i mean, i can never be 100% sure, but pretty sure. i only used it fo ra couple weeks before getting rid of it, it was creeping death slow for some reason
I'm too really desperate for a solution to this problem. My device is a HTC Touch Pro2 running Windows Mobile 6.5.
The case is that I will launch a new business site in just a few weeks whos customers are for the biggest part young intellectuals more often than seldomly really integrated with the modern IT-development. Hence I've always wanted to add the Windows Live messenger plugin to the site so that our customers can have a live chat completly anonymously without having their IP traced and logged which is the case for the markets paid services. Furthermore, the msn live plugin is completly ad free and doesn't cost a penny. The paid services out there that other corporations use for their live chat often comes with an URL to the host even though the customer are paying for their live chat module. The most important part though, is that I can bring with me Windows Live Messenger wherever I go which for the most part is a complex and not even that usual solution in the paid service segment. I think you can understand my problem now =) I'm just desperate to have my live messenger in the phone ALWAYS and ALWAYS stay connected.
For an example of the plugin I'm refering too have a look at my personal website:
martinandersson.com
A little more specific information describing what really happens with my device:
Windows Live version: 10.7.0061.0500.2000. Language: Swedish (Also the language of my OS).
I am running the client non-exclusivly. It always stays in the taskbar and never quit on me unlike what happens to programs that stay open running in the background for a longer period of time. In that way, it works great.
The main Windows Live window's (which are displayed and runned as a seperate program) options/settings are set to sync my e-mail although the frequency are set to "manual" and the other options below this drop box are for some reason greyed out. I guess this has to be interpreted as if live doesn't sync my mail at all, which I like being that I do not have an hotmail account or need this feature in any way.
The status of my phone always always show two small 3G icons (one just '3G' and one '3G' above a meter) and if I click in this field I see a ticking clock which shows that it is indeed connected to internet ever since my phone's last reboot. This has never been in any other way. Still, I did download the DiamondTweak and enabled the "internet always on" feature, but again, I do not think that really was the issue and from what I can tell, the DiamondTweak just hasn't made any difference at all.
One detail of great importance is this; Whenever I browse the internet, update my rss feeds or switch to the messenger contact list window through the taskbar, the 3G symbols changes to display an H. That tells me that this "H" must show for the phone to have a "real" internet connection? Could this be the trick, one has to find a fix to always have the H show? If that would be the case, I just can't understand why the phone says it is indeed connected to the internet when there's just a 3G-symbol in the status. Anyways..
Even though the messenger dies completly and just as what this threads owner wrote, shows a "wireless connection lost" message when I swich to its contact list window, it sometimes live for quite a while. The thing is that it just doesn't get the message instantly. The phone can be in standby mode (really haven't figured that thing out, everybody keeps saying "standby" mode but for what I can tell all that happens is that the display goes of) for sure, and then I write myself a message through the live chat plugin on my site but it takes about 6 to 10 minutes for the phone to give a sound and notice me of this message. And again, for the most part the live messenger doesn't stay alive for that long, the sites plugin goes offline and then if I turn the phone's display on and access the live messenger it says that the wireless connection has been lost and reconnects.
Moreoever, it never gets my plugin to go back online either. For that part to happen, I have to first get online with a desktop client and then again login with my phone. For if I stay online with the desktop client, the phone's client is indeed alive, but won't receive any messages. I have to reconnect with my phone so that my desktop client gets thrown out. But of course, is just a matter of time before my live chat module and my phone's client gets offline and I have to do everything over again. The really annoying part is that the phone's client dies a long time before the site's plugin catch up and goes offline. Hence I might loose a lot of customers who think they are chatting with me but never get a reply.
Given the description above, I think the problem really is that live messenger doesn't ping or talk with its server that often, IF the phone is in standby mode. If it isn't, if the display is turned on, I recieve my messages instantly and everything works just fine. Sure there must be an easy fix for this problem, a small edit to be done in a config file somewhere?
All help and all problem experience is much appreciated.
Yesterday, I bought an HD7 directly at a T-Mobile store and placed a pay as you go SIM with a balance of $0.00 in it.
I first synced with Windows Phone Connector Beta on my Mac running 10.5.8 to get all of my music on there.
Then I plugged it into a PC running Vista to update it to Mango (7000 -> 7008 -> 7392 -> 7408 -> 7720 -> ISharing).
The phone has been driving me nuts ever since!
I've hard reset it twice today, and gone as far as to make a new Live account.
Things I'd love to get working:
Push Notifications -
Neither IM+ nor Facebook can update Live Tiles or send toast notifications unless the app is in the foreground. IM+ gives me all of my notifications (toast and vibrations) once I open the app back up, but that defeats the purpose, doesn't it?
Native WLM/FB Chat -
I get the dreaded "Can't connect to chat" message when I try to connect in Messaging. I'd love to get WLM and FB chat working in here, since I can't get IM+ to work. I tried everything, from toggling every setting possible, to settings up and linking another brand new Live account. Nada.
I love this phone and WP7, but this is outright unacceptable.
From what I've read, both of these have occurred on even the flagship Lumia 800!
I'm just wondering, could these two issues be related?
Is there anything that can be done about either issue, other than the common solutions, like downgrading to NoDo and re-updating to Mango, installing a custom ROM, and/or registry hacks?
Update: Both issues fixed themselves at the same time about 5 minutes after I posted this.
I've since found out about the HD7 defaulting to 3G for internet connectivity even when connected to Wi-Fi, and the issue seems to be related to this.
For some reason, I am able to access websites and apps that do not use SSL over mobile data with no data plan. I'm sure this loophole will be closed soon. This would explain why chat would not connect. I'm not sure push notification problem was related to that, as IM+ was connected over Wi-Fi.
I was able to duplicate my problems by turning off Wi-Fi, allowing my phone to connect to 3G, and turning Wi-Fi back on.
Toggling airplane mode and then turning off cell data fixed the issue and allowed chat to connect.
I am having the exact same issues with my HD7. I have not found a solution yet. Last custom ROM I tried was based on 7720. I have not tried a 7740 ROM yet. I have re-flashed mine to stock TMOUS for now.
Hi,
I have a problem with Whatsapp program. It works perfectly fine when it comes to sending messages, although I have a problem with staying connected. The messages are delayed (sometimes it's even over 30 minutes) and when I simply wanna unlock my phone and text someone, the person won't receive my message until I reconnect my mobile data (grey clock icon on the left of my message). I've already seen many instructions on the net, like reinstalling Whatsapp, rebooting my phone, checking if my sync works and all that, but none of them worked for me. It really starts to annoy me, but I like this program alot and I don't want to give up on it that fast. So is there any way to force Whatsapp to stay connected full-time ?
I'm using MiniCM-2.2.0 with latest nAa Kernel.
Regards
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ziemny said:
Hi,
I have a problem with Whatsapp program. It works perfectly fine when it comes to sending messages, although I have a problem with staying connected. The messages are delayed (sometimes it's even over 30 minutes) and when I simply wanna unlock my phone and text someone, the person won't receive my message until I reconnect my mobile data (grey clock icon on the left of my message). I've already seen many instructions on the net, like reinstalling Whatsapp, rebooting my phone, checking if my sync works and all that, but none of them worked for me. It really starts to annoy me, but I like this program alot and I don't want to give up on it that fast. So is there any way to force Whatsapp to stay connected full-time ?
I'm using MiniCM-2.2.0 with latest nAa Kernel.
Regards
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well maybe you shouldn't give up on whatsapp but the ROM instead. What i mean is, maybe something inside the ROM/kernel wasn't installed properly and you could try reinstalling ROM and/or kernel... I know it's a stupid solution but it saved me many times when i couldn't find the answer anymore
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well maybe you shouldn't give up on whatsapp but the ROM instead. What i mean is, maybe something inside the ROM/kernel wasn't installed properly and you could try reinstalling ROM and/or kernel... I know it's a stupid solution but it saved me many times when i couldn't find the answer anymore
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Thank you for your reply. I already had the problem on previous ROMs (I mainly used MiniCM). Maybe I'll give GingerDX a shot. I'll tell you how it went.
Regards
Did you leave the app in background? When you leave Whatsapp, dont click back button, try clicking home button?? Dont move app to SD if you did!
Hit The THANKS Button If I Helped You!
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Did you leave the app in background? When you leave Whatsapp, dont click back button, try clicking home button?? Dont move app to SD if you did!
Hit The THANKS Button If I Helped You!
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i belive that whatsapp is running in background by default, so as programs such as viber, hotmail, etc. but we all know that this can be checked under settings > applications > running applications
but i agree that moving whatsapp to SD could be the problem, although i had no problem when i moved it to SD
I didn't move it to SD card and I don't use any task killer. Process manager says it is running in the background. Still no idea how to fix it.
if it isn't because of moving to SD, and it is running in background, if it isn't because of ROM (you've said that you have used some ROMs before and that there was the same problem), if your data settings work normally (sync and stuff), if the problem persist on wifi and 3g and edge,...
it occurs to me that it can only be due to two things, maybe you installed cracked version of whatsapp due to 1-year-free expiration, or maybe something went wrong when you installed your current kernel
P.S. whatsapp is 70% of communication on my X8, and i understand you very well when you say that you won't give up on it so easily
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if it isn't because of moving to SD, and it is running in background, if it isn't because of ROM (you've said that you have used some ROMs before and that there was the same problem), if your data settings work normally (sync and stuff), if the problem persist on wifi and 3g and edge,...
it occurs to me that it can only be due to two things, maybe you installed cracked version of whatsapp due to 1-year-free expiration, or maybe something went wrong when you installed your current kernel
P.S. whatsapp is 70% of communication on my X8, and i understand you very well when you say that you won't give up on it so easily
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I didn't crack anything, I'm still on trial. If I wanted to get another free year, I'd change my phone number I also reinstalled the kernel too.
EDIT: Now it works properly on WIFI only. Still disconnects after couple of minutes on 3G.
EDIT2: It seems like reinstalling GDX and Alfs finally worked for me. Thanks for all the help guys
Another update:
after a few hours I'm back to the point where I started... the problem's still there. I'm really pissed off now -.-
ziemny said:
Another update:
after a few hours I'm back to the point where I started... the problem's still there. I'm really pissed off now -.-
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It is only logical that Whatsapp won't implement itself right on your phone... This is all ridicoulos right know, because for as far as i know, you almost tried every solution possible, you've changed to other ROM, heck, you've even changed to other kernel and it still doesn't work.
You said it worked for a while, maybe some of the settings you've changed, and apps you've installed AFTER it was all working properly was interfering with your newly applied settings and/or installed apps
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It is only logical that Whatsapp won't implement itself right on your phone... This is all ridicoulos right know, because for as far as i know, you almost tried every solution possible, you've changed to other ROM, heck, you've even changed to other kernel and it still doesn't work.
You said it worked for a while, maybe some of the settings you've changed, and apps you've installed AFTER it was all working properly was interfering with your newly applied settings and/or installed apps
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I've installed Advanced Task Killer to see if it's the problem with Whatsapp, but it didn't block me from receiving the messages or anything. I uninstalled ATK and like an hour later, the problem occured again. I'll reinstall the kernel and the ROM again and leave it with only Whatsapp installed for a day. If that doesn't work, I might just buy an Xperia Neo V :S
Maybe it's because I connect to another network instead of my providers one ? I have data roaming enabled and stuff and I connect to Plus instead of Play (even though Play says they allow such things). Could this cause the problem ?
Or Swype Beta maybe ? I'm running out of ideas...
I just found out that when Whatsapp's not showing the "last seen" date (not connected), when I enter any website in the browser and return to Whatsapp, it shows the "last seen" properly. But I still have no idea what can this be...
ziemny said:
I've installed Advanced Task Killer to see if it's the problem with Whatsapp, but it didn't block me from receiving the messages or anything. I uninstalled ATK and like an hour later, the problem occured again. I'll reinstall the kernel and the ROM again and leave it with only Whatsapp installed for a day. If that doesn't work, I might just buy an Xperia Neo V :S
Maybe it's because I connect to another network instead of my providers one ? I have data roaming enabled and stuff and I connect to Plus instead of Play (even though Play says they allow such things). Could this cause the problem ?
Or Swype Beta maybe ? I'm running out of ideas...
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Wait, does it work normally when you are on wi-fi? try to test whatsapp when you are strictly on wifi (wich means that you turn off celluar data, data roaming and national roaming), so that we can definitly exclude the problem of wifi.
if the problem isn't in wifi, try to connect on your providers network (PLAY) instead of other network (PLUS), and see if the problem persists
if the probelm still persists i belive there is counterinterfering with some application...
i know that i'm offering too much possible solutions, but i think that this can only be solved by method of trying out every possibility
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Wait, does it work normally when you are on wi-fi? try to test whatsapp when you are strictly on wifi (wich means that you turn off celluar data, data roaming and national roaming), so that we can definitly exclude the problem of wifi.
if the problem isn't in wifi, try to connect on your providers network (PLAY) instead of other network (PLUS), and see if the problem persists
if the probelm still persists i belive there is counterinterfering with some application...
i know that i'm offering too much possible solutions, but i think that this can only be solved by method of trying out every possibility
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As from what I see for the last 30 minutes, it's working fine on WIFI. I also tried switching to Play and disabling the roamings, but it still kept disconnecting.
The apps I have installed:
- Barcode Scanner
- Battle.net Mobile Authenticator
- Dolphin Browser
- exDialer & exContacts
- GG (Polish messenger, but I doubt it causes any errors as I just installed it recently)
- GO SMS Pro
- Real Player
- Root Uninstaller Pro (I only uninstalled DSP Manager)
- Whatsapp obviously
- ColorNote
- Nexus ICS Minimal Analog Clock
That's pretty much everything I have. I didn't change anything in the settings of GingerDX itself. I'm really helpless here...
huh, nothing from that list shouldn't interfere with anything... maybe you should put back ATK and see what exactly happens with whatsapp when it disconnects from network
i'm really running out of ideas
It's pretty simple. It's got nothing to do with your ROM, kernel, 3G or WiFi - AFAIK. Rather, I think it's to some extent do to your connectivity. The app's refresh interval apparently varies. Seems worse when you have many long threads. Deleting a few threads seems to work from time to time. I however use another android device & I assure you the problem is in no way restricted to the X8
Saipro said:
It's pretty simple. It's got nothing to do with your ROM, kernel, 3G or WiFi - AFAIK. Rather, I think it's to some extent do to your connectivity. The app's refresh interval apparently varies. Seems worse when you have many long threads. Deleting a few threads seems to work from time to time. I however use another android device & I assure you the problem is in no way restricted to the X8
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So it's normal that I get my messages delayed by around 30 minutes or even more ? I clear my logs every day, so I think the messages should arrive like... instantly :S
ziemny said:
Hi,
I have a problem with Whatsapp program. It works perfectly fine when it comes to sending messages, although I have a problem with staying connected. The messages are delayed (sometimes it's even over 30 minutes) and when I simply wanna unlock my phone and text someone, the person won't receive my message until I reconnect my mobile data (grey clock icon on the left of my message). I've already seen many instructions on the net, like reinstalling Whatsapp, rebooting my phone, checking if my sync works and all that, but none of them worked for me. It really starts to annoy me, but I like this program alot and I don't want to give up on it that fast. So is there any way to force Whatsapp to stay connected full-time ?
I'm using MiniCM-2.2.0 with latest nAa Kernel.
Regards
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Hi,
Do you still have the problem of the messages getting delayed?
I have the same problem since three months now I think.
I have already tried everything you guys said here.
I have no problems what so ever on WI-FI but only on 3G.
I think it has something to do with Whatsapp, maybe even with our accounts in specific.
Did you ever fix this problem?
Because I am having it on my Samsung Nexus S.
I found that when I send a message, and I am running whatsapp in the background I still woulnd't recieve the messages.
So I hope you found the solution and could maybe share? :angel:
ziemny said:
Another update:
after a few hours I'm back to the point where I started... the problem's still there. I'm really pissed off now -.-
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try using supercharger v6 with script manager & use use multitasking settings
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Hey Guys,
Today i upgraded from MM to Nougat and flashed the Moonlight ROM (nobody answered in the thread) ...so far everything works fine, but I have massive problems with push notifications...i receive push notifications just from whatsapp or email...from apps like flashscore (sports app) I dont get notifications
Can someone help me?
Could a new flash of this rom help?
Edit: everytime I turn off WIFI and turn it on again, it works for a few Moments...and I receive all the messages I missed at once
The same happens with mobile internet
I have exactly the same problem and can say it's definitely GCM related, as i first experienced it while trying to get the "Join" app (great pushbullet alternative) to work properly and ran the diagnostics that are included within it. The problem seems to pass for a while when the network status changes, then no pushes come through at all until it changes again, eg. connecting or disconnecting WiFi or turning airplane mode on and off. Im pretty sure it's not battery-saving related as it occurs regardless of if the app is active or working in the background, unless it's the Google play services part that gets killed after some time but i have no idea how to check it. I've tried some heartbeat interval changing apps but unfortunately none did the trick and I'm out of ideas and this is pretty frustrating
I bought a pixel 5 to do courier work, I just needed something reliable with good battery life to run GPS and a handful of delivery apps.
Since the day I bought it I have had problems with notifications on mobile internet, for the most part I don't get any for any apps until I connect to wifi, then they all come flooding through at once.
I have tried every fix ive come across, changing from 5g to 3g, installing a heartbeat fixer app, changing background battery and data settings. Sometimes they seem to work, sometimes restarting the phone works but nothing sticks. I have spent hours talking to google support, they have made me factory reset 3 times, it normally fixes it at first, but last time it didn't and even with a completely fresh OS I wasn't getting any notifications on mobile internet, I tested by emailing my gmail account before installing any more than the default apps.
I should note that I have a strong internet connection the entire time, If i open gmail and refresh it the emails are there, I just don't get notifications for them until I connect to wifi.
The lack of notifications breaks a lot of apps as it seems they rely on the notifications or whatever protocol they use to work. The big issue for me is one of the courier app will give me no runs unless notifications are working.
Anyone have any ideas? I'll happily paypal anyone who can suggest a permanent fix $50 lol, if not I'll have to buy a different phone.
EDIT: video of the problem: https://streamable.com/bqyzpt
atwitsend said:
I bought a pixel 5 to do courier work, I just needed something reliable with good battery life to run GPS and a handful of delivery apps.
Since the day I bought it I have had problems with notifications on mobile internet, for the most part I don't get any for any apps until I connect to wifi, then they all come flooding through at once.
I have tried every fix ive come across, changing from 5g to 3g, installing a heartbeat fixer app, changing background battery and data settings. Sometimes they seem to work, sometimes restarting the phone works but nothing sticks. I have spent hours talking to google support, they have made me factory reset 3 times, it normally fixes it at first, but last time it didn't and even with a completely fresh OS I wasn't getting any notifications on mobile internet, I tested by emailing my gmail account before installing any more than the default apps.
I should note that I have a strong internet connection the entire time, If i open gmail and refresh it the emails are there, I just don't get notifications for them until I connect to wifi.
The lack of notifications breaks a lot of apps as it seems they rely on the notifications or whatever protocol they use to work. The big issue for me is one of the courier app will give me no runs unless notifications are working.
Anyone have any ideas? I'll happily paypal anyone who can suggest a permanent fix $50 lol, if not I'll have to buy a different phone.
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Sounds like you have a lemon on your hands.
I don't suppose you're using a VPN? I've had all sorts of strange issues with notifications and using a VPN as when the phone goes to sleep it can disconnect you from the network.
Or apps like Netguard where you can set apps to connect to either the wifi or mobile network or restrict them.
If you have no apps installed that can restrict your network usage then it seems your phone might have a problem.
No, even straight after a factory wipe, no notifications, that seemed to coincide with the latest pixel update a few days ago because nothing I tried would get it to work which is why I factory reset and for the first time it wasnt working after the factory reset either.
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No, even straight after a factory wipe, no notifications, that seemed to coincide with the latest pixel update a few days ago because nothing I tried would get it to work which is why I factory reset and for the first time it wasnt working after the factory reset either.
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I don't suppose it's something simple as...
I sent myself some emails and used the "find my device" in order to cause some notifications, as you can see on the video, nothing comes through until I connect to wifi.
pixel 5
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atwitsend said:
I sent myself some emails and used the "find my device" in order to cause some notifications, as you can see on the video, nothing comes through until I connect to wifi.
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Yep I think it's time for a new phone lol.
Have you tried a different provider, a friends sim card? It may be incompatible with the P5. There was a problem in USA with Mintmobile and the P5 but Google fixed it. Which service provider do you use?