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[Solved] Rogers version ineligible device to unlock bootloader

Hey! Anyone else with a Rogers xt1058 get device not eligible to unlock bootloader on the Motorola site? I've read about these issues... but doesn't seem to be common to rogers versions. I have messaged Motorola support... Which I'm sure will be a slow process. Lol
Wonder if how I got it has anything to do with it? I bought it off a guy who says he won it at work...a cell shop. It was still wrapped in box. I unlocked it to work on Telus and all is fine. Great phone.
Could any part of that story ...buying it from a guy, not in a store...or unlocking it for telus...have to do with the bootloader unlocking issues?
Its never been on the Rogers network either.
I am not too interested in flashing Roms...mostly just want root. And preferably custom recovery...which I need an unlocked boot loader for. No way am I messing with much without a nandroid backup. Lol
I see you can maybe root at least... But I'm no rookie, and the instructions still seem like a handful. I'm more Samsung experienced. So not a wiz with adb.....fastboot and stuff. I've used them a bit on my N7...but not much.
Any insight would be appreciated.
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I've had the error with a Rogers phone, the unlock server was having issues at the time and they resolved it the next day. Are you 100% sure it is a Rogers phone? You can verify with the software version.

Steve-x said:
I've had the error with a Rogers phone, the unlock server was having issues at the time and they resolved it the next day. Are you 100% sure it is a Rogers phone? You can verify with the software version.
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Assuming that's the rogers version, I am wondering how he got it...prize..or some other way....if it not being on Rogers ever...cause I unlocked it...if that plays into it at all.
I'll definitely try the Motorola site when I'm home tonight again...and keep trying until I hear from Motorola support.
I suppose if it is a US version that can't be boot loader unlocked...I'll have to figure out the root method and live with that.
Thanks!
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I did put in Rogers when I carrier unlocked it... If that means anything.
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Yep, its a Rogers phone. The sim unlocking portion will have nothing to do with the bootloader unlock. Try again tonight, be sure to remove the spaces in the key when after you've pasted it into the Motorola website. It will have 4 or maybe 5 of them after the cut and paste that need to be removed. When it didn't work for me several other people had posted about it the same day. I also posted on the official Motorola forums and told them the server was broken, someone passed the message to the correct person and the next day it worked fine.

Yeah, I'm sure I read your forum posts there. Lol
I am definitely going to try over and over or until I hear from Motorola. My gut says it's something with my phone... Just cause I haven't read of anyone having an issue right now. Except Mexico or somewhere near there.
Hopefully it was just their site. We'll see.
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Yup. Got home from work, tried to unlock bootloader and boom. Done. Their site must have been messed up last night.
Funny story too....got an email back from a lady at Motorola support saying I can unlock my phone for different carriers...on my own....that the Rogers version does not come carrier unlocked. I sent a polite reply saying I didn't ask that....I clearly asked about unlocking the boot loader. It even said that in the email subject line. LOL. Wow.....not gonna count on Motorola support for much in the future.
So...charging phone...then twrp..then titanium backup and I can start tweaking.
Thanks again!
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For fun you might want to throw the AT&T or tmobile(retail) 4.4 kitkat on to the phone. Both will work fine.

I plan on flashing whatever I can find for sure. I'll check that out first.
Just seeing what I can mess with first. Did a stock nandroid and after I get everything just right... Another. Then I can play with roms.
The moto xposed module is awesome.
Thanks
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Still amazed at this things speed compared to my s2. Just froze a bunch of system apps, greenified, ran adaway and changed some stuff with xposed.... All the same stuff I did with my s2....and all these actions just flew.
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kj2112 said:
Still amazed at this things speed compared to my s2. Just froze a bunch of system apps, greenified, ran adaway and changed some stuff with xposed.... All the same stuff I did with my s2....and all these actions just flew.
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nice to see another rogers moto x user, had ZERO problems with unlocking the bootloader but am currently going to keep it stock with xposed mods.
This sucker flys eh

Purchase Unlock Code

I've been reading something online that suggest there is a way to purchase an Unlock code for a NON-Developer Edition Moto X from Verizon. I am kind of interested in doing this so I can get my root back. I was wondering if this was an official thing to buy one from Verizon or something less than official?

There is a long thread on it here, but you might have missed your chance:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/verizon-moto-maker-bootloader-unlock-t2680651

titanshadow said:
I've been reading something online that suggest there is a way to purchase an Unlock code for a NON-Developer Edition Moto X from Verizon. I am kind of interested in doing this so I can get my root back. I was wondering if this was an official thing to buy one from Verizon or something less than official?
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I've been trying to get a clear answer to this but I don't think anyone knows for sure, not too many people jumping in to talk about it, I have found these posts though that seem to indicate that you don't need a dev ed. to root 4.4.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1x8puu/can_i_root_a_nondev_verizon_moto_x_and_get_free/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/tool-moto-x-toolkit-v1-2-1-t2477132
I would love a correct answer so I don't waste time with a phone that wont give me hotspot on my unlimited data plan, I know the phone will come with 4.4 installed, and possibly never even have had 4.2 on it to start with.. so we are looking for the same info, CAN 4.4 BE ROOTED ON NON DEV MOTO X?

doitinthedirt said:
I've been trying to get a clear answer to this but I don't think anyone knows for sure, not too many people jumping in to talk about it, I have found these posts though that seem to indicate that you don't need a dev ed. to root 4.4.
http://www.reddit.com/r/MotoX/comments/1x8puu/can_i_root_a_nondev_verizon_moto_x_and_get_free/
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/tool-moto-x-toolkit-v1-2-1-t2477132
I would love a correct answer so I don't waste time with a phone that wont give me hotspot on my unlimited data plan, I know the phone will come with 4.4 installed, and possibly never even have had 4.2 on it to start with.. so we are looking for the same info, CAN 4.4 BE ROOTED ON NON DEV MOTO X?
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I bought mine through Best Buy (on Verizon) about a month ago. I have root on 4.4 using the SlapMyMoto method. I used this guide on Reddit because I found it a little less confusing than the one on XDA.
I installed Xposed framework and the X Tether/Moto Tether module and it seems to activate the hotspot just fine.

doitinthedirt said:
I would love a correct answer so I don't waste time with a phone that wont give me hotspot on my unlimited data plan, I know the phone will come with 4.4 installed, and possibly never even have had 4.2 on it to start with.. so we are looking for the same info, CAN 4.4 BE ROOTED ON NON DEV MOTO X?
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(sorry, this might be the long answer, but hopefully it will help you understand what I'm saying and why..)
SlapMyMoto can be used to root, and MotoWpNoMo can be used to disable write protection *IF* your phone is on 4.4 or lower.
MotoWpNoMo (which disables write protection) is needed because when Write Protection is enabled (the phone's default state with locked bootloader, or the state you are in after you take the 4.4.2 OTA), any changes made to /system, or the like, (including, but not limited to, App installs, file modifications, deletions, renames, etc) are not permanent and are lost at power off/on. Even if you have root, but lost Write Protection, any apps you've installed that need to write to system can't permanently save their changes (you have to re-do every time your phone powers off/on), and any Root type app, or app that gets installed to /system after WP is enabled will be lost at power off/on.
If you are on 4.4. and use SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo, but later take the OTA to 4.4.2, you might keep root but Write Protection will be re-enabled with no way to disable it.
Due to fixes and changes in 4.4.2, the Root and Disable Write Protection processes that worked on 4.4 and lower, no longer work on 4.4.2. And don't expect anything for 4.4.2 for a while, if ever. So if the phone you buy comes with 4.4.2 pre-installed, and you have a locked bootloader you're stuck!!
This is not an issue if you have an unlocked bootloader. You can still unlock your bootloader (which disables write protection), and root (by just using a custom recovery and flashing SuperSU) no matter what rom is on your phone.
The option of buying the Bootloader Unlock Code for Non-Dev Verizon X from the Chinese site or middleman appears to have dried up. (no contact from the seller in a few days, and rumors he got caught/fired/worse)
If you really need ROOT, Write Protection Disabled, the ability to tether on an unlimited data plan, then you really should consider getting the Dev Edition X for Verizon, as you can unlock its bootloader (without voiding warranty), root it (no matter what rom is on the phone), and do what you want. Especailly since to keep the unlimited data you'll need to buy the phone at Full Retail (unless you are taking an upgrade on an alternate line to the X, and then moving the X to your line)

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KidJoe said:
The option of buying the Bootloader Unlock Code for Non-Dev Verizon X from the Chinese site or middleman appears to have dried up. (no contact from the seller in a few days, and rumors he got caught/fired/worse)
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thanks kidJoe for the detailed answer I was thinking 4.4 was 4.4.2
You cleared it up beautifully!

Root AT&T Moto X on 4.4.2?

I bought a used AT&T Moto X and it's on 4.4.2. Is it possible to root this (maybe through downgrading first), or do I need one of the unlocked versions of the phone?

vinuneuro said:
I bought a used AT&T Moto X and it's on 4.4.2. Is it possible to root this (maybe through downgrading first), or do I need one of the unlocked versions of the phone?
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unless an exploit comes out in the future (but i think everybody is pessimistic about this), the locked versions can't downgrade and can't root 4.4.2.
so you need either an unlocked version, or a locked version pre-4.4.2

And no....don't downgrade. You could easily brick your phone.

Whoa whoa
I just purchased a moto x from Google, for ATT.
I can't root???? Woowwwwwwwww..........

virtuewill said:
Whoa whoa
I just purchased a moto x from Google, for ATT.
I can't root???? Woowwwwwwwww..........
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Yup. Should have read up first.
That said....return it now while you still can, and get a dev edition or another carrier that can be sim unlocked and work on at&t if that's who you're with.
Hurry! Lol

kj2112 said:
Yup. Should have read up first.
That said....return it now while you still can, and get a dev edition or another carrier that can be sim unlocked and work on at&t if that's who you're with.
Hurry! Lol
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There didn't seem to be a dev option available through ATT.
Jesus this sucks.

Wait....what exact one did you buy????

kj2112 said:
Wait....what exact one did you buy????
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Moto X for AT&T
Memory - 32 GB
Back - Woven Black
Front - black
Accent - Metallic Black
Estimated Delivery May 5, 2014
$99 for 2 year contract. **** I could've just bought a used dev moto from ebay

virtuewill said:
There didn't seem to be a dev option available through ATT.
Jesus this sucks.
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Oh, so you definitely got the at&t model?? On a plan, or paid up front???
If on a plan, you could try to sell it anyway, and put that towards dev edition.....or live without root...or return it.

kj2112 said:
Oh, so you definitely got the at&t model?? On a plan, or paid up front???
If on a plan, you could try to sell it anyway, and put that towards dev edition.....or live without root...or return it.
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Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.

virtuewill said:
Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
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The Moto x definitely doesn't need to be rooted, but you may regret it later if you can't.
Good luck with whatever you do.

Thanks for all the helpful replies.
I wasn't planning on rooting this phone either, but then I came across Gravity Box. Sell the phone new and get an unlocked one.

virtuewill said:
Ah good idea... selling it new.
Actually I'm not sure I need root. I only rooted my S3 to get rid of touchwiz, but this stock android might be ok. Only app I use that needs root is file manager and drivedroid. And I want to disable the camera shutter sounds
I'd like to put CM11 on there but looks like motox isn't well supported by CM anyway.
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No one is really in the market for a moto x unless you sell it for dirt cheap. You don't really need to root this device it's great without but even better with root. You can disable the camera shutter sound from the camera menu. Es file explorer is a great alternative? But if you want return it and get the T-Mobile version its unlocked. This phone has been really great.
MOTO X

Why are all pessimistic that manage to get root on a closed bootloader version from AT & T?
Why do these companies do not sell at least an opportunity to get open bootloader? What do they lose?
I miss perekllyuchatelya regimes in 2G, 3G, and other other joys ...

I bought my Moto X directly from Motorola (not subsidized from AT&T) for use with AT&T. I did not opt for the slightly costlier DEV model, so is this thread telling me my personal property cannot ever be unlocked to be used somewhere else?

DocMCSE said:
I bought my Moto X directly from Motorola (not subsidized from AT&T) for use with AT&T. I did not opt for the slightly costlier DEV model, so is this thread telling me my personal property cannot ever be unlocked to be used somewhere else?
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Pretty much...
Don't confuse bootloader unlock with SIM-Unlock though.
You can pay a small fee and get your AT&T X unlocked to use on other GSM carriers....AT&T also might provide you with the code if you meet certain criteria. Bootloader unlock is another story. AT&T forbids Motorola from giving out unlock codes for their branded phones. Currently the ONLY possibility for unlocking the bootloader on an AT&T X is through the China Middleman.
Apologizes if any (or all) of this is redundant.

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Pretty much...
Don't confuse bootloader unlock with SIM-Unlock though.
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Thanks, I pretty much figured in this day and age that the SIM could be unlocked or I'd have bought the unlocked one to start with. What bothers me most is I do not use/abuse root on any of the devices I own and am only interested in doing so on my X to run the Titanium Backup app I purchased to run on my older phone. I guess I knew back then the app needed root to run but since that used to never be an issue due to the collective experience I have at my fingertips here at XDA-Developers.com. it never dawned on my that a day would come where root would be taken away from me never to be returned.

Thinking of switching to Republic Wirelss -- advice?

i'm on Sprint with a Galaxy S3 ... thinking of switching to Republic Wireless on a Moto X.
1. Can I root the phone?
2. Can I flash any custom ROMs? Which ones will work with Republic?
3. Existing Republic customers -- are you happy with the service/phone?
4. Does it come with KitKat? Is it pretty much AOSP vanilla, or bloated?
Thanks!

d0g said:
i'm on Sprint with a Galaxy S3 ... thinking of switching to Republic Wireless on a Moto X.
1. Can I root the phone?
2. Can I flash any custom ROMs? Which ones will work with Republic?
3. Existing Republic customers -- are you happy with the service/phone?
4. Does it come with KitKat? Is it pretty much AOSP vanilla, or bloated?
Thanks!
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1. Not sure about Kit Kat, Jellybean could be rooted
2. No, well you can but you will loose the ability to call and text
3. Personally I am happy with the service
4. It does now
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You would have to hope you can still buy a bootloader unlock code from the guy in China. Or else you will not be able to root. Assuming it comes with 4.4.2, which it probably will now. And the guy selling codes for 45 could stop anytime. Or he may not be able to unlock yours. It will be a gamble.
I'd suggest you pay outright for a dev edition. Then you're good to go.

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You would have to hope you can still buy a bootloader unlock code from the guy in China. Or else you will not be able to root. Assuming it comes with 4.4.2, which it probably will now. And the guy selling codes for 45 could stop anytime. Or he may not be able to unlock yours. It will be a gamble.
I'd suggest you pay outright for a dev edition. Then you're good to go.
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republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition

krsmit0 said:
republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition
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I know, it would have to be bought elsewhere.
Otherwise, good chance RW 4.4.2 phones will never be rooted.
Unless you luck out and can get a code from the Chinese seller.

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republic wireless doesnt have a dev edition
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The phone can be unlocked if you BUY the unlock code. Mine personally is unlocked from the first go around.
To answer your questions:
1) If you order the phone and receive it running 4.2.2, then yes, you can root the phone, then safestrap and upgrade to 4.4.2 using the guide in the General section. If you receive the phone running 4.4.2 then your only hope is to unlock your bootloader via the China middleman.
2)There are no custom ROMs that support the custom software that RW bakes into their ROM to make their services work. If your bootloader is unlocked, you can flash all you want, just won't work as a cellphone.
3)I love the Moto X and RW service. Sprint is not always the best, but I get coverage most everywhere I travel, plus I get WiFi in most everywhere I go.
4)For now, new phones bought directly from RW should still come running 4.2.2 until their stock runs out. Don't know what a new phone from Motomaker would come with. Their KK ROM is generally debloated aside from all of Googles apps and HPs Printer plugin.

Thanks for the info ...
Does anyone know ...
1. if I buy a Moto X straight from motomaker, or used on craigslist ... can I flash it with the Republic ROM?
2. If I buy a Republic moto ... can I later flash it to use with a Simple Mobile SIM card?
thanks

You won't be flashing anything that requires a custom recovery if you get either with 4.4.2 installed, cause you won't have root. Or an unlocked bootloader. Unless you get lucky and the unlock codes are still available for 45 dollars and your phone is in his list.
That's what I was trying to say previously.

OK, but what if I get a Moto from Motorola ... which I assume is easily rootable ... can I then flash the Republic ROM on to it?

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OK, but what if I get a Moto from Motorola ... which I assume is easily rootable ... can I then flash the Republic ROM on to it?
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You can't unlock motomakers either tho.
Unless you're talking about getting the dev edition.

Ah ... I see. Bummer. Do you know if the Nexus 5 (straight from Google) is ready to root?

d0g said:
Ah ... I see. Bummer. Do you know if the Nexus 5 (straight from Google) is ready to root?
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Any nexus 5 can be rooted. Just unlock bootloader and you're off.

That may be the best for me then ... I don't want to be locked in to anything. thanks!
Is the Nexus 5 both GSM and CDMA? I don't see an option on order form.
Sorry to go off - topic ...

d0g said:
That may be the best for me then ... I don't want to be locked in to anything. thanks!
Is the Nexus 5 both GSM and CDMA? I don't see an option on order form.
Sorry to go off - topic ...
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You may need to confirm with a google search, but yes.
There's only one north american model of the n5, and it works on most any carrier, except Verizon apparently.
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I would google "nexus 5 [carrier name]" to see if out works on the specific carrier you want.

I've been planning on the Moto X from Republic Wireless. It sounds like from Moto Maker they are coming with 4.4.2, so I can only hope the guy selling codes is still doing so and can unlock mine, otherwise wait and pray they find a way to unlock 4.4.2 on RW..
If not, I hope I can live with a generally stock phone.. It does seem like the Moto X is pretty good all around as it is, so maybe it won't be so bad :fingers-crossed:

I have used RW for about 2 or 3 months and I am planning to switch to something like T-mobile for various reasons. all the reasons that annoy me enough to switch are somewhat small stuff but that's just me.
the reasons are: no emoji support, no 3rd party texting app supported fully (texting works mms doesn't), slower than the rest software updates (we got our 4.4.2 update, if I'm not mistaken, last), and my biggest annoyance with them is not allowing me to unlock my phone (but I eventually did it anyways).
I also feel like they don't listen to the community as much as they should but they sure as hell listen to it more than a big carrier.
anyways that' just my opinion, I might add a few things to this list if I think of them.

New moto x owner from galaxy nexus - need clarification

So I just picked up a Moto x after having owned a Galaxy nexus for about a year and a half. So there are a few things that currently bother me, and seems like there are no fixes to date.
Moto X (2013), Verizon with unlimited data, OS 4.4.4, non-dev edition, bootloader locked and no root access.
1. There are no solutions to unlock the bootloader as of today.
2. There are no solutions to root and ROM.
3. I cannot use the native hotspot tether feature on my unlimited plan. Has anyone tried the clockworkmod paid tether app ($5) or any other tether app? Can I USB tether from my phone to my Nexus 7 or another phone?
4. Can I somehow remove (unlikely) or at least hide the bloatware?
My browsing of the moto x forums has basically told me that I'm stuck with some upgraded hardware and some highly restricted software comapred to my last phone. I'm very much enjoying the phone and it's new intricacies that my galaxy nexus didn't offer, but any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I believe you are SoL on bootloader unlock/root so 1-3 are out I believe. 4 you can go into settings>apps>disable for the ones you don't want to see.

@rice923
For #1 you are correct. With the NON-Developer Edition Verizon Moto X (XT1060), the bootloader is locked. Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes for Verizon, ATT and Republic Wireless. Your only option at this point would be IF the China Middleman starts responding again, to buy a code from him.
With a locked bootloader there is no root, and no way to disable write protection when on 4.4.4. Past root exploits don't work. The latest is Sunshine, but it doesn't work on 4.4.4 devices. see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471 or see -> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2792487
For #2 and #3, they require an unlocked bootloader.
For #4. Some of the bloat can be "disabled" via Settings -> Apps -> All... open the app you want, and see if the Disable button is there. 3rd party apps to FREEZE wont work because you are not rooted and write protection is still enabled.

Thanks for confirming my findings. I'm a bit disappointed, since I still have unlimited data. The tethering is the main issue that absolutely makes me loathe Verizon.
On a sidenote, I've never handled the developer version of the VZN moto x. Does it still have the Motorola features, such as active display, etc?

rice923 said:
Thanks for confirming my findings. I'm a bit disappointed, since I still have unlimited data. The tethering is the main issue that absolutely makes me loathe Verizon.
On a sidenote, I've never handled the developer version of the VZN moto x. Does it still have the Motorola features, such as active display, etc?
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The Dev edition and retail/moto maker variants are exactly the same software and roms.
The dev edition is only available as black front, woven white back that says "developer edition" on it, with silver accents (camera ring and buttons), 32 gig, and Moto provides the boot loader unlock code and it doesn't void the warranty.
The Moto maker is fully customizable, and Moto doesn't give the unlock code for verizon.

Thanks for the help guys! Unfortunately, I might have to jump ship to another phone that will allow me to tether. I feel like I have no control over the phone without root access, which I've always had for the past 3 years since having my first smartphone.
It's quite sad, since I actually love the rest of the phone...

Perhaps the new Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo, or watch swappa. Com for an unlocked version of the X

Like GandalfTehGray, why not just look for a Dev edition X and sell that one you just got?
root, roms, and themes.. oh my!

$$$... The dev version of almost another $100 more than my 16gb version. Of love to have the Dev edition though!
I'm currently looking into a gs3. There a root exploit floating around, so hopefully that works. Not looking forward to touch wiz

The S3 is a terrible downgrade... IMHO. My M8 went in for service and they lent me an S3....was just awful. Lol
Of course it wasn't rooted... But still awful. Feels and looks cheap. Slow. Just terrible. Should have got them to loan me a Sim for my S2...prefer it to the S3.

Yeah I already know the s3 is a step down from the moto x... I'm loving the moto so much! It just fails to do a few critical things the I've grown to need... Tether being the biggie.
I'm looking at a local rooted and bootloader unlocked s3. Hopefully that will prove my expectations wrong

Posting this from my new (to me) gs3. It indeed has an unlocked bootloader, and the previous owner already has cm11 loaded onto it. It's pretty snappy so far, and in enjoying it. So glad I don't need to put up with touchwiz!
Anyhow, I really miss active display already... And the motion activated camera launch[emoji22]