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Hello guys, I just goot this device used from someone in the US. It is locked on GSM, but rooted.
At this I am most interested in getting it unlocked and explore further which is, learning bootstrapping, changing recovery and loading custom roms.
I spoke to Verizon extensively today and was told, they wouldn't be able to give me the unlock code unless it was activated on the network. After a long conversation, the global support team suggested that if I know someone in the US on the Verizon network, what could possibly be done is activating this phone on their current contract, right away share the unlock code and move the Verizon user to their previous phone. All on one call, with a feww minutes? Do Verizon users or with similar experience share their insight, if this would work out with getting an unlock code from them?
I don't really want to go through the idea of finding someone, going through the call and finding out, the person I spoke to was mistaken about all this possible on a single call..
Any other ways to unlock the phone? I don't like the idea of paying money to a website for the unlock code and possibly the code not working, with no refunds.
I've already spent on the phone with the risk of not ever being able to unlock it.
I know, there are threads with unlocking info, but a lot of users I realized were still unable to unlock their phones.
Looking forward to expert insights, and thanks a load everyone!
Cheers.
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To add, I am not physically in the US, neither is the phone. Phones GSM bands are apparently compatible with the GSM networks in my country.
Thanks!
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Unfortuanlty that is the only way to unlock an xt862. Unless it has never been activated on verizons network. As I understand it verizon changes the sim unlock code upon first activation. Even if that is the case you will still need a code from an unlock site(or possibly your nearest cell repair store)
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Endoroid said:
Unfortuanlty that is the only way to unlock an xt862. Unless it has never been activated on verizons network. As I understand it verizon changes the sim unlock code upon first activation. Even if that is the case you will still need a code from an unlock site(or possibly your nearest cell repair store)
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Ok. Unlock4Moto.com is where I am currently planning to purchase it from - they don't have specific verizon codes, but motorola xt862 in general.
Really really hoping, that verizon didn't change the lock code during its few months of activation.
Scared now of not having to use the device as only a PDA..
Thanks for the response.
Can others also pls share their experiences, thanks!
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rezapatel said:
Ok. Unlock4Moto.com is where I am currently planning to purchase it from - they don't have specific verizon codes, but motorola xt862 in general.
Really really hoping, that verizon didn't change the lock code during its few months of activation.
Scared now of not having to use the device as only a PDA..
Thanks for the response.
Can others also pls share their experiences, thanks!
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Ya if its been activated previously the code from unlock4moto will probably fail. In addition if you have too many fails the phone will go into susbsidy lock(or something similar) and will need a PUK(personal unlock code) from verizon to even be functional. You could try just calling verizon repeatedly and explain your perdicament to a new agent each time until you find one that will just give you the sim unlock code. I do believe that it needs to be connected to verizons network at the time though there are several threads of ppl who have had this same problem. Its pretty ****ty. I might recommend selling it and getting the xt860 model. Its easier to unlock and is also global GSM.
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Endoroid said:
Ya if its been activated previously the code from unlock4moto will probably fail. In addition if you have too many fails the phone will go into susbsidy lock(or something similar) and will need a PUK(personal unlock code) from verizon to even be functional. You could try just calling verizon repeatedly and explain your perdicament to a new agent each time until you find one that will just give you the sim unlock code. I do believe that it needs to be connected to verizons network at the time though there are several threads of ppl who have had this same problem. Its pretty ****ty. I might recommend selling it and getting the xt860 model. Its easier to unlock and is also global GSM.
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That really sounds crappy :-( I do although plan to buy one and see what happens. Just hoping, I am lucky. Else, I will trt and resort to finding someone from verizon to help me with the situation.
In regards to selling it, I purchased the phone in the us with a friends address almost a month back, and received it in hand just today. Really wouldn't want to sell it yet or thar I might not even find a buyer for a locked phone in my country.
Tough situation I am in, thanks though and wish me luck!
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You can bypass the Verizon setup by tapping the four corners of the setup window. At least this will make the phone useable.
That would make the phone usable as a PDA (wifi only), but I think he mentioned that wasn't his goal. Still good info to have while waiting for unlock though.
OP, the phone definitely needs to be activated on a Verizon account temporarily so it can communicate with their system for unlock code to work. Maybe you can place an ad on craigslist offering some money or something similar. People have nothing to lose by helping you if they don't have a global phone or if they never travel outside the US. If they've already done it before, I believe they have to wait ten months before they can unlock another phone on their line. Just fyi.
Good luck!
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That would make the phone usable as a PDA (wifi only), but I think he mentioned that wasn't his goal. Still good info to have while waiting for unlock though.
OP, the phone definitely needs to be activated on a Verizon account temporarily so it can communicate with their system for unlock code to work. Maybe you can place an ad on craigslist offering some money or something similar. People have nothing to lose by helping you if they don't have a global phone or if they never travel outside the US. If they've already done it before, I believe they have to wait ten months before they can unlock another phone on their line. Just fyi.
Good luck!
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Ahh here's another catch then. But I guess, someone who doesn't travel out might be willing.
Btw, just a quick question, so like the support person told me that I can get the phone activated on Verizon without the phone having to be physically in the US, can someone confirm that's possible?
Also, while at it, if someone on XDA is willing to help me with the situation, it would be awesome! I don't mind looking at the option of a monetary incentive for the assistance.
Thanks!
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True-ish
Having been through the SIM unlock route myself, here is what I found out. The Droid3 Sim unlock code modification is presented in the first Over The Air (OTA) update. And it doesn't effectively change the code. It adds a modified algorithm to the existing code which has to match up to the one they provide you with. Just like an md5 sum would be incorrect if anything is missing or altered. If the phone is or is returned to the original software that came on the phone (i.e. SBF / Fastboot / Flash) then this algorithm is not present in the firmware and thus the code you recieve from a third party vendor should work. I would surf around and find a trusted source with a strong reputation. When you find a company that states they can do it for you then ask them what their success rate is with the Droid 3 in particular.
As far as the subsidy lock......mine was just like the droid 2 global, when I tried too many attempts it subsidy locked on me ( I was trying different variations that I found in different areas of RadioComm to see if I could circumvent the system, finally gave up). I didn't touch it and let it sit on the subsidy lock request screen for about an hour and it asked me again for the sim unlock code. I finally got the right code through my inderect agent rep and voila. Hope this helps. I've been unlocking a rack of Droid2 and 3 for myself and friends lately, so if any of the information provided is cross-device (I sometimes get confused) then hopefully a guru will correct me. But this is to the best of my recollection.
If you haven't succeeded in about a week I'll be having my acct transferred from an employee line to a consumer acct and I can help you with swapping it to my service briefly and getting in touch with global support. Just pm me or send a message to my gmail - same username queberican351
take care and best of luck
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Hey thanks for the info. All of it made lots of sense. So at this point i am hoping that the OTA update didnt happen on device in its lifetime with the first owner although I am almost sure its highly unlikely.
I am currently most inclined towards unlock4moto.com for the code, hoping it works out.
Regarding flashing the OS version to the factory default version, I will try learning how to flash the roms on this device since I think the way to flash roms on motorolas are pretty different to other phones.
And thanks, really really appreciate the offer of helping me out if I don't succeed in a week.
Thanks!
P.s. first message on xda using the droid 3 (in airplane mode), wonderful phone!
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Good news guys. The code from unlock4moto.com worked perfectly.
This makes me think that Verizon doesn't change the code on their network, because the phone was used for a couple months on their network prior to being detached from their network.
But there's another sad news too, which is, right after being unlocked I had to give it to my sister.. So I guess I will stick around to my Desire Z for another while.
Thanks everyone who helped me get my direction right and opted to help me, cheers!
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rezapatel said:
Good news guys. The code from unlock4moto.com worked perfectly.
This makes me think that Verizon doesn't change the code on their network, because the phone was used for a couple months on their network prior to being detached from their network.
But there's another sad news too, which is, right after being unlocked I had to give it to my sister.. So I guess I will stick around to my Desire Z for another while.
Thanks everyone who helped me get my direction right and opted to help me, cheers!
Sent from my HTC Vision
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I'm glad to hear that, so many others have had issues with this.
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Endoroid said:
I'm glad to hear that, so many others have had issues with this.
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Feel for them. I guess, was lucky :-D
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Currently the motomaker version of the tmobile moto x doesn't allow bootloader unlocking.
Does anyone know if this is set to change in the future?
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Currently the motomaker version of the tmobile moto x doesn't allow bootloader unlocking.
Does anyone know if this is set to change in the future?
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Have they specifically said its not allowed or have they just not added them to the unlockable database yet? I was told it can take some time for them to add them to the database. Also, the unlocking website had problems yesterday and wouldn't unlock any phones period.
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Have they specifically said its not allowed or have they just not added them to the unlockable database yet? I was told it can take some time for them to add them to the database. Also, the unlocking website had problems yesterday and wouldn't unlock any phones period.
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The support people I talked to both said that they aren't supported. They didn't know when or if they would be supported. TMobile support was just clueless.
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The support people I talked to both said that they aren't supported. They didn't know when or if they would be supported. TMobile support was just clueless.
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The Motorola website says its supported so I'd post on the official Motorola forum and ask for them to look into it.
I just got my motomaker T-Mobile device and I can't unlock the bootloader. That is the only reason I bought the t-mobile version. I think motorola wants us to be stuck with the stupid black and white device.
Ok I thought it was just me but after reading this thread I know it's not. I just got my motomaker tmobile moto x today and no dice on the bootloader unlock. Got on the phone with Motorola support and they are clueless when it comes to the bootloader. I don't get what the difference would be between a colored one and black/white one that would cause any sort of differentiation on the bootloaders.
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Ok I thought it was just me but after reading this thread I know it's not. I just got my motomaker tmobile moto x today and no dice on the bootloader unlock. Got on the phone with Motorola support and they are clueless when it comes to the bootloader. I don't get what the difference would be between a colored one and black/white one that would cause any sort of differentiation on the bootloaders.
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They will likely be in two different categories so I'm thinking they just haven't got around to confirming that but I would like to find out before the end of my return window. Support does seem pretty clueless.
different model number?
Can anyone confirm the model number for the T-Mobile MotoMaker version and the Dev Edition version? I thought they were one and the same which is why I went with the MotoMaker version...
T-mobile before motomaker was XT1053 - same as dev edition - and had unlockable bootloader. Is it different now?
Reading the forums at the motorola website it appears the they need to enter each phone into the system manually. I hope it is only a matter of a few days and then I can unlock.
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If you haven't done so already, go post on the Motorola forums.
I, for one, will be returning my T-Mobile Moto Maker if I can't unlock the bootloader by the time my return period is up.
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Tried again this morning and BOOM it worked. My faith in the new Moto is restored.
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dpmanter said:
Tried again this morning and BOOM it worked. My faith in the new Moto is restored.
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Yay! :good:
dpmanter said:
Tried again this morning and BOOM it worked. My faith in the new Moto is restored.
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Excellent. Since it wipes device I won't have time to try until this weekend but fingers crossed it works for me too!
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Tried it again today and worked like a charm.
I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm getting irritated with Verizon or Motorola on how long this is taking. The 4.4 update took 4 weeks max and was a big update and this "minor" update has taken 2 months.....I don't understand what the hold up is. I bought this phone off contract because I wanted a phone that would receive updates relatively quickly and based my decision on the fast update to KitKat. I know there are a few Moto people here.....any insight on the delay? I do understand this is minor....just like being up to date. Okay...everyone yell at me for asking about this .
I'm used to updates taking 6-12 months, so I'm not complaining. It hasn't been that long since the last update.
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Ryno77 said:
I'm going to get flamed for this but I'm getting irritated with Verizon or Motorola on how long this is taking. The 4.4 update took 4 weeks max and was a big update and this "minor" update has taken 2 months.....I don't understand what the hold up is. I bought this phone off contract because I wanted a phone that would receive updates relatively quickly and based my decision on the fast update to KitKat. I know there are a few Moto people here.....any insight on the delay? I do understand this is minor....just like being up to date. Okay...everyone yell at me for asking about this .
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Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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How come with have a 4.4.2 deodexed verison for Verizon? Isnt that the release?
flashallthetime said:
Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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Well, that's a reasonable explanation . Why are they messing with the bootloader with every update? I think it was you that posted in another thread about PM'ing this info rather than posting it on an open thread? If you don't mind I'd appreciate your explanation on this..If it's not a hassle PM'ing me with the info you have would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
The first update was a special occasion. Verizon never pushes crap out that fast. Money changed hands to get the first X and G updates through carriers ASAP is my guess. The carriers also got burned by the 4.4 exchange bugs which have probably been causing thousands of customer service calls and returns.
We're on a more normal schedule now, although still faster than Samsung or HTC as there is little to modify. Expect Verizon to be last with a 3-6 month delay for updates. Sunday will be 2 months since 4.4.2 pushed to the nexus 5. I would still be (pleasantly) surprised if we saw it before March or even April.
If you bought this phone thinking every update would be within weeks I'll remind you than a single data point does not make a trend.
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Ryno77 said:
Well, that's a reasonable explanation . Why are they messing with the bootloader with every update? I think it was you that posted in another thread about PM'ing this info rather than posting it on an open thread? If you don't mind I'd appreciate your explanation on this..If it's not a hassle PM'ing me with the info you have would be very much appreciated. Thanks.
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Verizon and at&t have locked boot loader on their consumer version, we all know about slapmymoto and all the root hacks, so does moto. The reason why the eliminated boot loader downgrade is due to slapmymoto, no other reason to do it. Just my thoughts . Moto left the vulnerability in the 4.4 upgrade , well its gone now so it should decrease hard bricks in theory but there's always someone who wants to stick a square peg in a round hole
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I'm pretty sure downgrading the bootloader hasn't been possible on many recent moto phones. I agree that it's likely to prevent exploits, but it's not something new or unique to the X
Having just received my Verizon Dev Ed only a week or so ago, it updated to 4.4 almost immediately. What's better about 4.4.2?
We should also stress that some people have the update. Motorola is known for doing "Soak Tests" which, is a good idea. For production devices even if you HAVE all the specs on the device and drivers and such with the source code for them so as a developer you can go and in really look at everything... Takes time to not only make sure it works with the device on a basic level (compiles, boots, phone calls, etc..) there is the fact that bugs crop up and I have read a lot of things about it being pulled because of devices being locked - that of course has to be solved and since each device comes with a bootloader for the carrier it is on (unless I'm wrong in that since Sprint uses the 1060 as well and has the update) I would imagine Verizon is being cautious and giving it extra time. Perhaps Verizon noticed some bugs and the other carriers said to release and work on a fix later and Verizon said - no, fix it first.
I know it is hard to think of Verizon as a 'good guy' like that but it is possible, last thing they need is another phone update the kills devices - they've played that game before.
Anyway, just my two cents worth. I think it is being tested and tweaked before release.
Comparing this to the fact that my Galaxy Note 8.0 (which has no carrier cruft) still is on v4.2.2 and has been since October, so... I'm pretty happy with waiting a few months knowing that they'll get it out to me for the Moto X.
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What's better about 4.4.2?
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My question exactly. I bet most people who harp about updates don't even know what the changes are. I have 4.4.2 on my N7 and I can't tell a difference in performance compared to 4.4. Most of the changes are camera related for the N5 and N7 which doesn't affect the Moto x's camera since it's updates come from the play store.
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Reason why because people are going to hard brick the frigging devices, all unlockable boot loader firmware will be sent out first to see how things go, at that point moto will send out Verizon and at&t firmware and watch all the hard bricks that happen, hope I'm wrong .
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You're not wrong. LOL. Unfortunately.
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Verizon customer complaining about slow updates? Surprise surprise. Dude there are phones on Verizon right now that are still on 4.1-4.3 I'd relax and thank my lucky stars Motorola is only taking months instead of years.
If fast updates were so important you should have gotten a developer edition. I've had 4.4.2 for at least a week now and I had most of the 4.4 bugs fixed months ago
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SymbioticGenius said:
Verizon customer complaining about slow updates? Surprise surprise. Dude there are phones on Verizon right now that are still on 4.1-4.3 I'd relax and thank my lucky stars Motorola is only taking months instead of years.
If fast updates were so important you should have gotten a developer edition. I've had 4.4.2 for at least a week now and I had most of the 4.4 bugs fixed months ago
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Developer Editions don't get updates any faster than non-DE versions. The carriers still have to release the updates. I have a VZW DE, and I do not have 4.4.2 yet.
You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
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SymbioticGenius said:
You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
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I don't think there are Verizon/xt1060 4.4.2 images available yet. There are 4.4 images readily available though,
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You do realize that you can install it yourself right? There are images all over the place now.
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
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I understand I can flash the system image from another service provider. Everything I've come across is a sbf file....I can't flash just system from that can I? My last two phones have been from Samsung so I'm not too familiar with this stuff yet.
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I understand I can flash the system image from another service provider. Everything I've come across is a sbf file....I can't flash just system from that can I? My last two phones have been from Samsung so I'm not too familiar with this stuff yet.
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I highly discourage you from doing this. There have been several people bricking by flashing the wrong thing. I almost bricked mine, but was able to save it. Then I had to spend 2 hours on the phone with Verizon because something I flashed made my phone show up as a non-Verizon device and temporarily blacklisted it. It now registers as a test device in Verizon's system, and I don't know what the implications of that is if I try to sell it later to someone else.
It was absolutely not worth it and I should have waited for my carrier to officially release an upgrade. I'm sure some here will disagree with me, but I'm telling you from personal experience.
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I highly discourage you from doing this. There have been several people bricking by flashing the wrong thing. I almost bricked mine, but was able to save it. Then I had to spend 2 hours on the phone with Verizon because something I flashed made my phone show up as a non-Verizon device and temporarily blacklisted it. It now registers as a test device in Verizon's system, and I don't know what the implications of that is if I try to sell it later to someone else.
It was absolutely not worth it and I should have waited for my carrier to officially release an upgrade. I'm sure some here will disagree with me, but I'm telling you from personal experience.
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Yes..this. be patient. 4.4.2 won't change your life or anything.
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I to agree with the previous poster, as you said you came from a Sammy product, forget and throw all the past experience with Sammy out the window. Moto is a totally different beast. Wait till your sbf firmware is available and flash that. I have seen to many know it alls royally screw their brand new moto's up. Patience soon all will be for told , I can see in the not so distance future the 4.4.2 update
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Hey guys been awhile since I posted on XDA but I just ordered a Moto X and waiting for it to come and I have check the forums for other things to do with my Moto X when i get it. Besides the Active Notifications and Always on voice feature is there anything else I Can do to Moto X Root or other features that probably wasnt mention or lesser known features
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Hey guys been awhile since I posted on XDA but I just ordered a Moto X and waiting for it to come and I have check the forums for other things to do with my Moto X when i get it. Besides the Active Notifications and Always on voice feature is there anything else I Can do to Moto X Root or other features that probably wasnt mention or lesser known features
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Did you get the Dev edition ? I heard they have a 64GB ver out now. what carrier did you order with ?
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XAlexander_AlexanderX said:
Did you get the Dev edition ? I heard they have a 64GB ver out now. what carrier did you order with ?
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no I didn't ..... I got the 32 gig moto maker from Verizon..... There's no root for the latest firmware is it?
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no I didn't ..... I got the 32 gig moto maker from Verizon..... There's no root for the latest firmware is it?
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I believe so and no boot loader unlock unfortunately... The phone is amazing either way. i'm on rooted stock because its amazing like that. I love touch less control, assist, and alert. I am a flashaholic but this.. this phone is just amazing. my friends are jealous of my phone lol.
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no I didn't ..... I got the 32 gig moto maker from Verizon..... There's no root for the latest firmware is it?
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Try sending money to the guy in China and see if he can get your phone unlocked.
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XAlexander_AlexanderX said:
I believe so and no boot loader unlock unfortunately... The phone is amazing either way. i'm on rooted stock because its amazing like that. I love touch less control, assist, and alert. I am a flashaholic but this.. this phone is just amazing. my friends are jealous of my phone lol.
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Yeah I heard great reviews about it ...I used to be a flashaholic till i started staying with samsung phones .... This my first phone that's not a samsung in 4 years ...... Imma look around for a root method for the latest firmware and see what I find
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no I didn't ..... I got the 32 gig moto maker from Verizon..... There's no root for the latest firmware is it?
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to have a "complete" root solution you need to things.. 1. Root and 2. Disable Write Protection.
Starting with 4.4.2, the past exploits used to disable write protection were patched. i.e. no way to disable write protection on 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 when you have a locked bootloader.
If your Verizon X ships with 4.4.2, you can use Jcase's PIE root process to root, but it doesn't address write protection, so root is lost at power off/on. Also, since write protection is enabled, you can't write to /system and the like.
With 4.4.3, the vulnerability used with the PIE process is/was patched, so you'd need to wait on a new exploit and process.
If you are lucky enough to receive your X with 4.4 or below, you can use SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection. Just don't upgrade, or write protection will get re-enabled.
If you had purchased the Dev Edition X, you could unlock you boot loader which does disable write protection and allows root no matter what ROM is on your phone. Moto supplies the unlock code for Dev Editions, and unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty on the Dev Edition.
Unfortunately, for the retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon, Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes (same for ATT, Republic Wireless, and a few others). But there are threads discussing using a Chinese Website/Middleman to get an unlock code. If you get the code from this 3rd party, you're phone will be just like the Dev Edition X, only your warranty is voided (if they see the bootloader unlock status).
KidJoe said:
to have a "complete" root solution you need to things.. 1. Root and 2. Disable Write Protection.
Starting with 4.4.2, the past exploits used to disable write protection were patched. i.e. no way to disable write protection on 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 when you have a locked bootloader.
If your Verizon X ships with 4.4.2, you can use Jcase's PIE root process to root, but it doesn't address write protection, so root is lost at power off/on. Also, since write protection is enabled, you can't write to /system and the like.
With 4.4.3, the vulnerability used with the PIE process is/was patched, so you'd need to wait on a new exploit and process.
If you are lucky enough to receive your X with 4.4 or below, you can use SlapMyMoto and MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection. Just don't upgrade, or write protection will get re-enabled.
If you had purchased the Dev Edition X, you could unlock you boot loader which does disable write protection and allows root no matter what ROM is on your phone. Moto supplies the unlock code for Dev Editions, and unlocking the bootloader doesn't void the warranty on the Dev Edition.
Unfortunately, for the retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon, Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock codes (same for ATT, Republic Wireless, and a few others). But there are threads discussing using a Chinese Website/Middleman to get an unlock code. If you get the code from this 3rd party, you're phone will be just like the Dev Edition X, only your warranty is voided (if they see the bootloader unlock status).
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Well it will be tomorrow so ill see what version it has ... heres to hoping it ships 4.4..... Anything else I should know?
Xposed and gravitybox.. thats all you need
ilovechi23 said:
Well it will be tomorrow so ill see what version it has ... heres to hoping it ships 4.4..... Anything else I should know?
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Everything I could say is posted at ->http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX.htm
Well I got it... and my first thoughts of it is all good.... just gotta get used to a small device (came from a note 3) but im liking it so far
ilovechi23 said:
Well I got it... and my first thoughts of it is all good.... just gotta get used to a small device (came from a note 3) but im liking it so far
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is that what she said?!?! j/k
great phone, lost the desire to flash as this phone stays strong even without reboots. I and other folks have gone weeks in between reboots, and no notice of lag.
otherwise, take the time to read, reread, and reread the root threads. its worth it with closed, gravitybox, and adaway.
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Are they still shipping with 4.4 and not 4.4.2? I ordered two moto maker x in april and both shipped with 4.4 and rooted both with slapmymoto from jcase.
If its on 4.4 You can root and get write and make it your phone instead of verizons. if it has 4.4 make sure you DONT let it take the 4.4.2 update.. it will start downloading as soon as it finds the www.. wifi or network.you wont be able to hard root if you do
I am ordering mine tomorrow. After having a huge dilemma which to get I am choosing the X over S5 (no not because of money!).
Anyway, what I was wondering by reading the GSMArena review, they said the you won't be able to delete single entry from the call log? Is it still same with 4.4.3? Also, as I have never used AOSP before, how does the call log work? I mean with Samsung, one thing is very good (for me at least) that when I tap on an entry it shows the details of it rather than calling, but with hTC M7 I saw that by tapping an entry once it directly calls that number, which is really frustrating for me. How is it with the X? Call history with one tap or direct call?
devilsdouble said:
....they said the you won't be able to delete single entry from the call log? Is it still same with 4.4.3? Also, as I have never used AOSP before, how does the call log work? I mean with Samsung, one thing is very good (for me at least) that when I tap on an entry it shows the details of it rather than calling, but with hTC M7 I saw that by tapping an entry once it directly calls that number, which is really frustrating for me. How is it with the X? Call history with one tap or direct call?
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The 4.4.3 update isn't pushing to the Verizon X yet, but on 4.4.2, I can delete entries one at a time, from history, by going into each, and hitting the 3dot menu button and select Remove From Call Log.
If I tap on an entry on the history, it gives me a pop up with the number, name (if person is in my contacts), the time of the call and if it was in/outbound or missed. I can then call back.
KidJoe said:
The 4.4.3 update isn't pushing to the Verizon X yet, but on 4.4.2, I can delete entries one at a time, from history, by going into each, and hitting the 3dot menu button and select Remove From Call Log.
If I tap on an entry on the history, it gives me a pop up with the number, name (if person is in my contacts), the time of the call and if it was in/outbound or missed. I can then call back.
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Thanks mate. So how can you see the history? I mean how many times you have called a particular number, or received calls from the same number etc?
devilsdouble said:
Thanks mate. So how can you see the history? I mean how many times you have called a particular number, or received calls from the same number etc?
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It seems to group them within a few days... So like if my wife called me yesterday and today, they are grouped together, but if she called me on Monday too, it will show Monday as separate.
KidJoe said:
It seems to group them within a few days... So like if my wife called me yesterday and today, they are grouped together, but if she called me on Monday too, it will show Monday as separate.
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Thanks, it's alright then, just like the M7 was.
Ordered the White 16 GB version, I suppose I have made the right choice going for the X over the S5.
ilovechi23 said:
hey guys been awhile since i posted on xda but i just ordered a moto x and waiting for it to come and i have check the forums for other things to do with my moto x when i get it. Besides the active notifications and always on voice feature is there anything else i can do to moto x root or other features that probably wasnt mention or lesser known features
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besides amazing battery life and a phone that just works!
Since using the Moto X and G I've stopped rooting, this is coming from a flashaholic (see sig).
The only thing I'm missing is app ops, I hate Google for taking that away.
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I sent my At&t Moto X 2014 to get unlocked and when I received it and was told that it was unlocked, I took it to T-Mobile to get a SIM card to finally use it and it didn't want to connect to the carrier. It keeps saying to try again at a later time but the T-Mobile representative says that it may not have been unlocked right. Does anyone know what I can do or if it has happened to anyone else?
Le Betits said:
I sent my At&t Moto X 2014 to get unlocked and when I received it and was told that it was unlocked, I took it to T-Mobile to get a SIM card to finally use it and it didn't want to connect to the carrier. It keeps saying to try again at a later time but the T-Mobile representative says that it may not have been unlocked right. Does anyone know what I can do or if it has happened to anyone else?
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Ive never heard of sending a phone somewhere to be unlocked. Generally you either request an unlock code from your carrier or buy one from one of the many sim unlocking websites out there.
Have you contacted the place you sent your phone? That should be your first step. How much did it cost?
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Ive never heard of sending a phone somewhere to be unlocked. Generally you either request an unlock code from your carrier or buy one from one of the many sim unlocking websites out there.
Have you contacted the place you sent your phone? That should be your first step. How much did it cost?
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It was a cell phone store that usually repairs phones or unlocks them and so on, unfortunately I got out of T-Mobile too late to go back to the phone place. It cost $45 to unlock, and by seeing all these threads, I can already tell I overpaid.
Le Betits said:
It was a cell phone store that usually repairs phones or unlocks them and so on, unfortunately I got out of T-Mobile too late to go back to the phone place. It cost $45 to unlock, and by seeing all these threads, I can already tell I overpaid.
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Ouch! That's extortion! Unlock codes are usually around $5 from a third party site, or if the phone is off contract your carrier will give you the code for free. All you do is put in the new sim, type the code in the dialer and you're done. $45 for that is ridiculous. You definitely overpaid, sorry to say.
I saw in the other thread that some people had luck when they created a new APN. Have you tried that?
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Ouch! That's extortion! Unlock codes are usually around $5 from a third party site, or if the phone is off contract your carrier will give you the code for free. All you do is put in the new sim, type the code in the dialer and you're done. $45 for that is ridiculous. You definitely overpaid, sorry to say.
I saw in the other thread that some people had luck when they created a new APN. Have you tried that?
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Yeah, I saw that, it was just my first time unlocking a phone and a friend had previously told me he got his unlocked there so I went there too. Never again, though. I did create a new APN and it connected to T-Mobile briefly for like 2 seconds before saying it had no service again. Now it doesn't connect at all. I don't think it has to do with it being unlocked wrong since other people have had the same problem. It definitely has something to do with the APN, I believe.
I had this problem and moto replaced my device. I still get disconnected from the new device but it's a lot better than the old one. I believe it's hardware issue. I'll have to call them again.
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Yeah, I saw that, it was just my first time unlocking a phone and a friend had previously told me he got his unlocked there so I went there too. Never again, though. I did create a new APN and it connected to T-Mobile briefly for like 2 seconds before saying it had no service again. Now it doesn't connect at all. I don't think it has to do with it being unlocked wrong since other people have had the same problem. It definitely has something to do with the APN, I believe.
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Ever get it figured out?
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Ever get it figured out?
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There is another thread in the "Moto X General" forum about this. Its a widely seen problem on ATT moto x which is unlocked and updated to lollipop. Jump to page# 36 in that thread and there is a temporary fix for this problem.
kartus517 said:
There is another thread in the "Moto X General" forum about this. Its a widely seen problem on ATT moto x which is unlocked and updated to lollipop. Jump to page# 36 in that thread and there is a temporary fix for this problem.
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I'm not having a problem, I was just wondering if the OP ever solved his.