Flashing Roms - AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

How will you go on about flashing customs roms to the stock rom in safestrap. I read on 4.4.2 kitkat that is the only way flashing a custom rom to the stock. And to go back to stock rom again after installing a custom rom. Does anybody have a tutorial or instructions on doing this. Last time i went messing with this mess my phone all up and i want to ask and learn how to do this before attempting anything. Please give me some guidance on this like a tutorial with step by step instructions from installing a custom and going back to stock again using safestrap.

mikep90 said:
How will you go on about flashing customs roms to the stock rom in safestrap. I read on 4.4.2 kitkat that is the only way flashing a custom rom to the stock. And to go back to stock rom again after installing a custom rom. Does anybody have a tutorial or instructions on doing this. Last time i went messing with this mess my phone all up and i want to ask and learn how to do this before attempting anything. Please give me some guidance on this like a tutorial with step by step instructions from installing a custom and going back to stock again using safestrap.
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once you rooted nc2, install busybox. then install safestrap 3.72. rom slots are confirmed working but keep the default sizing once you choose a slot, and reboot is an issue so you have to long press power button.when making backups in ss 3.72 you have to compress it.
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posersk8r said:
once you rooted nc2, install busybox. then install safestrap 3.72. rom slots are confirmed working but keep the default sizing once you choose a slot, and reboot is an issue so you have to long press power button.when making backups in ss 3.72 you have to compress it.
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I thought if u was on kitkat that u could only install a custom rom on the stock rom slot and 1 threw 4 wouldn't work on it. I was trying to figure out how can u install a custom rom on the stock rom slot and than vise versa install a official rom back on the stock rom slot. So are u able to use 1 threw 4 now on safestrap

mikep90 said:
I thought if u was on kitkat that u could only install a custom rom on the stock rom slot and 1 threw 4 wouldn't work on it. I was trying to figure out how can u install a custom rom on the stock rom slot and than vise versa install a official rom back on the stock rom slot. So are u able to use 1 threw 4 now on safestrap
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only tried slot 1, dk on stock and dkx on slot, its working but i had some issues with the reboot. yes you can install a rom on stock but a word of caution, you dont have a lot of options of going back to stock if u mess up so flash at your own risk.
Edit; and the only way to go back to stock if you wanna use safestrap is a restore of your stock backup on stock slot.
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posersk8r said:
only tried slot 1, dk on stock and dkx on slot, its working but i had some issues with the reboot. yes you can install a rom on stock but a word of caution, you dont have a lot of options of going back to stock if u mess up so flash at your own risk.
Edit; and the only way to go back to stock if you wanna use safestrap is a restore of your stock backup on stock slot.
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so u say i can install on slot 1 and i can switch between slot 1 and stock slot meaning i go from one to the other without having to restore my backup or do anything

what is dk dkk. i want to install the s5 rom just for fun and do i need to backup my rom apps and data using titaium backup first so i wont lose all my apps and data bc i have to do a wipe a factory rest than after i would just have restore my backup. The last time i treid to restore my stock back it failed and my phone wouldnt boot up and i went to system recovery and did a wipe everything and than my phone was stuck the splash screen

mikep90 said:
so u say i can install on slot 1 and i can switch between slot 1 and stock slot meaning i go from one to the other without having to restore my backup or do anything
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you leave stock slot alone and play with whatever kk rom you installed in slot 1.
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mikep90 said:
what is dk dkk. i want to install the s5 rom just for fun and do i need to backup my rom apps and data using titaium backup first so i wont lose all my apps and data bc i have to do a wipe a factory rest than after i would just have restore my backup. The last time i treid to restore my stock back it failed and my phone wouldnt boot up and i went to system recovery and did a wipe everything and than my phone was stuck the splash screen
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look it up in development section, as with the other kk roms in there. dont flash the 4.3 roms youll be stuck at boot screen.
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Installing stock rom with cwm recovery

hi.
Is it possible to install stock rom from this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1424997 wit cwm recovery?
Will instaling stock rom with cwm recovery overwrite my cwm recovery? If I am rootwd now, will I have still root after installing stock rom?
If you install a stock Rom, you'll lose both your CWMR and root, unless you do it using Mobile Odin.
yes you can flash Stock ROM with CWM. n you have to select 'keep CF root' when it ask.
For detail guide, Download guide from last link on my signature you will find ' Update ROM using CWM' in New folder.
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chasmodo said:
If you install a stock Rom, you'll lose both your CWMR and root, unless you do it using Mobile Odin.
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Hey, your Note get recovered? This time you seems restless. He ask specifically about using CWM.
Anyway like to read your post always
Regards.
I am asking about cwm recovery.
dr.ketan said:
yes you can flash Stock ROM with CWM. n you have to select 'keep CF root' when it ask.
For detail guide, Download guide from last link on my signature you will find ' Update ROM using CWM' in New folder.
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Hey, your Note get recovered? This time you seems restless. He ask specifically about using CWM.
Anyway like to read your post always
Regards.
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I must've skimmed the OP, hence the inappropriate reply.
My Note was never bricked BTW. I had flashed angelom's v1, not v1.1 or v1.2, and managed to pull back in time.
Your posts are always to the point and very helpful, too.
mod2000 said:
I am asking about cwm recovery.
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Ya i got it, replied u just above your this post.
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Thanks for your reply, but your guide is about cwm manager, but not cwm recovery.
What about cwm recovery, can I update rom and keep root and cwm?
mod2000 said:
Thanks for your reply, but your guide is about cwm manager, but not cwm recovery.
What about cwm recovery, can I update rom and keep root and cwm?
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You need cwm from cf, with stock recovery can't flash any rom.
You are rooted already then get cwm first.
You said to keep cwm, means u have it, stock recovery can't b erased. Stock recovery hav limited set of function. I believe u have still confusion in understanding cwm, just read more.
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I think you can not install stock rom with cwm recovery. But you can restore backups.
There is difference between CWM - its and application which can be opened when you boot in the phone, and CWM Recovery - you can access it without/before booting in the phone.
Sorry if my answer is wrong.
Boy124 said:
I think you can not install stock rom with cwm recovery. But you can restore backups.
There is difference between CWM - its and application which can be opened when you boot in the phone, and CWM Recovery - you can access it without/before booting in the phone.
Sorry if my answer is wrong.
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Totally right. Thanks
Boy124 said:
I think you can not install stock rom with cwm recovery. But you can restore backups.
There is difference between CWM - its and application which can be opened when you boot in the phone, and CWM Recovery - you can access it without/before booting in the phone.
Sorry if my answer is wrong.
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CWM recovery OR better term is stock recovery, which exist on all device(inbuilt stock function), which can be access with Vol up + Power + Home
This have limites set of function, Just wipe cache, n wipe data.
Niether stock Nor custome ROM can be flashed
Nither backup Nor Restore is possible with it.
For this fuction, you need to have CWM application, which can available only if you have your device rooted. If tou have flash CWM, then you can access it with same method(three keys), but menu will be more advanced.
Hope it should be clear Now.
n7000 stock android with cwm installed
Hello there,
I wanted to install kitkat on my note1, n7000. I rooted the phone with philz cwm6 ddlsc. Everything went good. I then tried to install the kitkat 4.4.4 and it keeps giving an error and does not install. Later doing some research i figured i need a version of 6.4 and above of cwm in order to install 4.4.4. So I decided to leave all this and go back to stock 4.1.2. I did not unfortunately create a backup. Now that im trying to install it through odin the stock android, odin does not detect the phone. I have wiped off cache, user data and dalvik cache. Everytime the phone is booted it goes to cwm menu.
Please help me install the stock android and remove cwm/root.
Your help is much appreciated.
on my note 2 i have backup stock rom with cwm and in cwm folder in my files backup file is ther and in that some date is there is that my back
i m having issue with my cm12 and i want to flash my stock rom so that backup file is my stock rom so i can flash it via cwm will my old galaxy stock rom of 4.4.2 kit rom will restore
muzammil9010mnm said:
on my note 2 i have backup stock rom with cwm and in cwm folder in my files backup file is ther and in that some date is there is that my back
i m having issue with my cm12 and i want to flash my stock rom so that backup file is my stock rom so i can flash it via cwm will my old galaxy stock rom of 4.4.2 kit rom will restore
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Although this is the note 1 forum but yes usually that's how it works. If you backed it up using cwm, then restoring should also work. You will need to do a factory reset 1st.

Semi Bricked Atrix HD?

I think I bricked it. I have a Safestrapped 3.12 with no custom rom , just the stock and rooted JellyBean rom. I tried to install Awesomebeats and I gave rw permissions to build.prop for the Awesome zip install.btw i installed the Awesome zip through Safestrap. When I rebooted itjust got past the red moto label and it went gray. Doesnt continue booting. So i tried to install both ICS stock and JB stock removing the getvar lines from the xml file. But it only gaveme errors .I suppose its the safestrap not freeing the loader.
Any help?
You can't just downgrade can you? To my knowledge this is still not safe. Also, are you able to enter recovery? More information is needed
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codecxbox said:
I think I bricked it. I have a Safestrapped 3.12 with no custom rom , just the stock and rooted JellyBean rom. I tried to install Awesomebeats and I gave rw permissions to build.prop for the Awesome zip install.btw i installed the Awesome zip through Safestrap. When I rebooted itjust got past the red moto label and it went gray. Doesnt continue booting. So i tried to install both ICS stock and JB stock removing the getvar lines from the xml file. But it only gaveme errors .I suppose its the safestrap not freeing the loader.
Any help?
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If you installed it over stock try factory resetting, if you backed up try restoring, if neither work reflash stock.
or,
Install a custom rom in rom slot 1 such as golden rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2151398 (made by me)
xXckkillerXx said:
If you installed it over stock try factory resetting, if you backed up try restoring, if neither work reflash stock.
or,
Install a custom rom in rom slot 1 such as golden rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2151398 (made by me)
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thats the problem. I cant reflash stock ,it gives me errors in RSDLite. yes, I still have recovery and safestrap. As a emergency i am installing goldenrom right now,but i would like to have the stock romback
codecxbox said:
thats the problem. I cant reflash stock ,it gives me errors in RSDLite. yes, I still have recovery and safestrap. As a emergency i am installing goldenrom right now,but i would like to have the stock romback
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hmmm, I dont know what to tell you, try calling moto support about rsd lite?

[HOW TO]Update to 4.4.2 NAE w/Root while Keeping MF9 Bootloader w/ Lock Screen Fix

THANKS To Unknownforce, Sac23, Phil3759, runwithme, cmonsterf50, fgr, tallblazer124 and Chainfire!
For Lock Screen FIX Only Skip to Bottom of OP. You can Also Skip Flashing MK2 if you decide to do it this way.
This HOW TO will help you update your Sprint S4 to Stock Rooted NAE including NAE modem while keeping the MF9 bootloader.
MDC, MDL, MF9, MJA, MK2 and NAE are versions of the stock OS released by Samsung. MDC was first then MDL, MF9, MJA,MK2 and now NAE.
The recent MJA/MK2/NAE update was major in terms of firmware in that Knox was incorporated. (firmware on the GS4 is the bootloader, recovery and modem/radio. the ROM is the OS) Currently, once you update to the new MJA, MK2 or NAE bootloader you can't go back.
Why would you go back? Well Knox is a pain in the a$$ and trips the flash counter in the bootloader, which will most likely void your warranty. For crack flashers this is a nightmare.
Right now staying on the MF9 bootloader and flashing the stock NAE Rooted ROM from Unknownforce gives you no lock screen security settings. I have found a workaround that lets you keep the MF9 BL and flash the NAE Rooted ROM with lock screen security working. To go any further you must have NOT accepted the latest OTA and are still on MF9 Bootloader.
I am not responsible for anything happening to your phone. Proceed at your own risk. Basic knowledge in flashing via Odin and custom recoveries is required. If you follow this guide word for word you will not have any issues. Read entire post and download all files needed before starting.
ALL FILES Needed:
Odin 3.07(Other versions may work. This is what I use): http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1168421&d=1341114315
NAE Modem/Firmware - http://d-h.st/zWf
Philz 6.08.9 Recovery (last one I tested) or later - http://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/jflte
Stock MK2 Rooted ROM Odex - http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23321874045862533
Stock NAE Rooted ROM - http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407572159 OR Sac23's v3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2673380
SD Card Write Fix - https://www.mediafire.com/?tpnv6l67wdl98i2
Hot Spot Mod (Choose NAE Odex) - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2653666
How To Video: thanks wwjoshdew!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoM5P93m-yg
Step 1 Update modem and firmware to NAE
Download NAE modem and NAE firmware (with knox removed) thanks to Unknownforce (be sure to unzip before use)
Follow his instructions for installation from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2338919
Step 2: Install Philz Recovery
Download Philz recovery version 6.08.9 MD5 (last one I tested)
Turn off your S4. Wait for a full power down. Boot into download mode (hold power and volume down, then volume up) Connect USB cable and boot Odin.
Using Odin v3.07 flash Philz Advanced CWM recovery in PDA mode with AUTO REBOOT UNCHECKED. When it says RESET hold the power button, and as soon as the device turns off hold volume up to boot into the new recovery.
Step 3: NAE ROM Install and Workaround for Lock Screen Security Settings
1. Back up Apps with Titanium Backup
2. Boot into Philz Recovery
3. Factory Reset>Wipe to install a new ROM
4. Install the Stock MK2 Odex Rom
5. Boot the Stock MK2 ROM. I did not set up any of my google accounts nor wifi, I just skipped until the pre-setup was finished. I then let the Sprint stuff install.
6. Go to lockscreen settings and set up a pattern or pin lock.
7. Reboot to recovery and wipe System, Cache, Preload and Dalvik Cache. DO NOT WIPE DATA.
8. Install the NAE Stock Rooted Rom from Unknownforce OR Sac23's v3 ROM
9. Reboot and profit.Your lock screen settings should now be functional.
10.Flash SD Card write fix if needed. (most likely you will)
11.(Optional) Install Hotspot mod.
12. Install Busybox and ROM Toolbox from Google Play. Fix permissions In ROM Toolbox go to (Run Script) > (Fix Permissions).
*****Alternate Lock Screen Fix*****
Thanks to @tallblazer124 for this much easier way to get lock screen settings:
Another fix for lock screen which is very quick, is use root explorer or a similar app and edit the buildprop in the system folder.
You can just add # before
security.mdpp=None
in build prop and it will work.
The entry will then look like this
#security.mdpp=None
Then restart your phone and you should have all the lock screen options.
I am now trying to add recovery, but it doesn't work. I tried so many times, it doesn't work for me. I did the 3x , plus the battery pull. I also tried both recovery, still it didn't stick. I will just wait.
510jungleboy said:
I am now trying to add recovery, but it doesn't work. I tried so many times, it doesn't work for me. I did the 3x , plus the battery pull. I also tried both recovery, still it didn't stick. I will just wait.
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Try this. After you flash a custom recovery, instead of doing the battery pull right away, hold down the power button until the device turns off. Then do your USB cable pull and battery pull. I had to do this for a friends S4.
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Congrats man on getting everything with the MDL update.
Since i know a lot of people including myself are having problems getting this to stick, wouldnt it be easy if you could share your rom so the developers could use that as a base since you have everything working .
Just a thought not trying to step into anyones toes or anything. Again congrats on the update
Going to try this after I get off work tomorrow.
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Ok making a nand backup now of what I got. Will upload to dropbox as soon as its done and post a link.
Mudavo said:
Try this. After you flash a custom recovery, instead of doing the battery pull right away, hold down the power button until the device turns off. Then do your USB cable pull and battery pull. I had to do this for a friends S4.
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Yup. That did the trick. Thanks.
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Mudavo,
Which MDL Hot Spot Mod did you install? Odexed or Deodexed ?
510jungleboy said:
Yup. That did the trick. Thanks.
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Mudavo,
Which MDL Hot Spot Mod did you install? Odexed or Deodexed ?
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If you're using stock thru the ota.. then you need odexed
510jungleboy said:
Yup. That did the trick. Thanks.
Mudavo,
Which MDL Hot Spot Mod did you install? Odexed or Deodexed ?
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Glad to see it worked for you I am using Odexed MDL Hotspot mod.
Mudavo said:
Glad to see it worked for you I am using Odexed MDL Hotspot mod.
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So lets say now i want to have deoxed Rom do we just flash CRJ Deoxed Rom?
jmak512 said:
So lets say now i want to have deoxed Rom do we just flash CRJ Deoxed Rom?
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Yes. Since it does not include kernel and modem you should be fine. Do nand backup first though
Mudavo said:
Yes. Since it does not include kernel and modem you should be fine. Do nand backup first though
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Everything worked flawlessly bro! great job on this post.
I must admit the tricky part is getting the recovery to stick but once that happens the rest is cake! Good looks
Too kool of you to leave your nand backup so some of us who are too lazy, or want to avoid odin can restore your back up!
Now, can I use TWRP to restore or do I have to figure out how to change recovery to CWM?
willsurg said:
Too kool of you to leave your nand backup so some of us who are too lazy, or want to avoid odin can restore your back up!
Now, can I use TWRP to restore or do I have to figure out how to change recovery to CWM?
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Not sure. I havn't used TWRP. I'm going to guess and say yes? I guess just try it. If it doesn't work load Shabby's or SexTape's CWM recovery. They are both easy to install if you can follow directions
Worked great, no issues. It all went through the first try for me.
We just have to get this nag permanently fixed
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The weird thing is, I have never had an issue with getting recovery to stick. Even after flashing MDC, taking update, then ODIN Shabby Recovery. Dunno why all the fuss. Maybe different versions of ODIN. I'm using 3.07 I think. Great write-up though.
Is it possible to just update the modem without touching anything else?
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willsurg said:
Too kool of you to leave your nand backup so some of us who are too lazy, or want to avoid odin can restore your back up!
Now, can I use TWRP to restore or do I have to figure out how to change recovery to CWM?
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Flash CWM in current recovery and your good. I (personally) wouldn't try restoring a nand from a different recovery. If there was a newer version of the recovery and you have a backup under and older older version, you should be good. Your still within the same recovery.
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Mudavo said:
UPDATE: I was asked for a copy of a nand backup of my rom. (Link Below) Here is Stock MDL Rooted with updated Modem, Shabby's kernel, MDL Hotspot mod and MDL Reboot Menu mod. (Data has been wiped) If you restore this in your custom recovery, make a back up of your current rom first. After restoring my backup, do an advaced restore of your data only.
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Good post. Thanks for the help. I just wanted to clarify that if people restore your nand it won't install the modem. I see you mentioned the modem so just wanted to clear things up in case people tried to do it just to get the modem.
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Cloaker said:
Is it possible to just update the modem without touching anything else?
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Not as of now. Probably not until the full tar is released.
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ACoolGuy said:
The weird thing is, I have never had an issue with getting recovery to stick. Even after flashing MDC, taking update, then ODIN Shabby Recovery. Dunno why all the fuss. Maybe different versions of ODIN. I'm using 3.07 I think. Great write-up though.
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I concur. I have never had issues either and am also using 3.07. FWIW.
crawrj said:
Good post. Thanks for the help. I just wanted to clarify that if people restore your nand it won't install the modem. I see you mentioned the modem so just wanted to clear things up in case people tried to do it just to get the modem.
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Thanks and your welcome! Was not aware of this . Yeah, modem was pretty much the whole point. That's too bad. Sorry guys link removed
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Note 5 SM-920C Bricked from disabling SuperUser and rebooting

I own an Note 5 and i managed to soft brick it while trying to get android pay working for my rooted phone. In the process I was asked to turn off superuser in the SuperSu app and then reboot. After that my phone wouldn't boot.
List of things I tried:
I tried to flash the recovery.tar to my phone
Flashed Twrp and wiped my cache and davlik-cache
Also tried the fix permissions option.
*Update I bought an otg cable and flashed super su but nothing @Droidriven
GraphicMarble said:
I own an Note 5 and i managed to soft brick it while trying to get android pay working for my rooted phone. In the process I was asked to turn off superuser in the SuperSu app and then reboot. After that my phone wouldn't boot.
List of things I tried:
I tried to flash the recovery.tar to my phone
Flashed Twrp and wiped my cache and davlik-cache
Also tried the fix permissions option.
*Update I bought an otg cable and flashed super su but nothing @Droidriven
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Have you tried flashing your same ROM again if you were on a custom ROM and then superSU.zip then wipe cache and dalvik but don't factory reset(trying to save your data), then reboot.
If that doesn't work we'll take the next step.
Droidriven said:
Have you tried flashing your same ROM again if you were on a custom ROM and then superSU.zip then wipe cache and dalvik but don't factory reset(trying to save your data), then reboot.
If that doesn't work we'll take the next step.
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I don't know the difference between a kernel and a custom but but i have this kernel SM-N920C-kernel-SkyHigh_TW_v3.5--[16-01-10].tar
GraphicMarble said:
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I don't know the difference between a kernel and a custom but but i have this kernel SM-N920C-kernel-SkyHigh_TW_v3.5--[16-01-10].tar
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A custom kernel is any kernel that isn't stock.
If you're using custom ROMs you're using custom kernel, find a kernel that works with your ROM.
Where did mention of a kernel come from?
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Droidriven said:
A custom kernel is any kernel that isn't stock.
If you're using custom ROMs you're using custom kernel, find a kernel that works with your ROM.
Where did mention of a kernel come from?
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I'm confused from this "A custom kernel is any kernel that isn't stock.
If you're using custom ROMs you're using custom kernel" does that mean ROM and kernel are the same thing?
GraphicMarble said:
I'm confused from this "A custom kernel is any kernel that isn't stock.
If you're using custom ROMs you're using custom kernel" does that mean ROM and kernel are the same thing?
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No, custom ROMs can't use stock kernel so they need their own kernel, the kernel is what integrates your hardware with your software, roughly equivalent to drivers on PC. Without the kernel, the device can't use the ROM.
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Droidriven said:
No, custom ROMs can't use stock kernel so they need their own kernel, the kernel is what integrates your hardware with your software, roughly equivalent to drivers on PC. Without the kernel, the device can't use the ROM.
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So if i have a kernel that i flashed to gain root access it is a custom kernel. Then i guess i don't have a custom ROM
GraphicMarble said:
So if i have a kernel that i flashed to gain root access it is a custom kernel. Then i guess i don't have a custom ROM
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Yes, that's how some newer Samsung are having to root.
If you're on Stock firmware then you may have to find a custom ROM and flash it or flash your stock firmware via Odin and start over with rooting the device again but you'll lose your data.
You might can do a nandroid backup before you flash anything and then after flashing you can retrieve your data from the nandroid backup by extracting it and putting it back where it belongs.
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Droidriven said:
Yes, that's how some newer Samsung are having to root.
If you're on Stock firmware then you may have to find a custom ROM and flash it or flash your stock firmware via Odin and start over with rooting the device again but you'll lose your data.
You might can do a nandroid backup before you flash anything and then after flashing you can retrieve your data from the nandroid backup by extracting it and putting it back where it belongs.
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1. What advice do you have for this not happening in the future?
2. What data exactly can i recover through a nandroid backup?
GraphicMarble said:
1. What advice do you have for this not happening in the future?
2. What data exactly can i recover through a nandroid backup?
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Answer 1) to prevent this in the future, when you get straightened out, boot to recovery and make a nandroid backup, that way you have a backup of everything with it working correctly that can easily be restored later if you have problems and will put you back to having everything the way it was when you made the backup. Its like a restore point in Windows.
Answer 2) A nandroid backup backs up everything on your device that is important, all of your settings, your contacts, your ROM, everything. You can pull whatever data from the backup that you need. But the backup I'm telling you to make right now nay not keep everything you had, there's no telling right now how much data you've lost or not so making the backup is to save whatever you can so you can retrieve it after repairing your device.
Always make a backup after every major change you make on your device so you'll always have a backup that includes the new additions so you can restore to that point if you need to. When you make a new backup you can delete the old one unless you just want to keep it but the more backups you make the more room they take.
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Answer 1) to prevent this in the future, when you get straightened out, boot to recovery and make a nandroid backup, that way you have a backup of everything with it working correctly that can easily be restored later if you have problems and will put you back to having everything the way it was when you made the backup. Its like a restore point in Windows.
Answer 2) A nandroid backup backs up everything on your device that is important, all of your settings, your contacts, your ROM, everything. You can pull whatever data from the backup that you need. But the backup I'm telling you to make right now nay not keep everything you had, there's no telling right now how much data you've lost or not so making the backup is to save whatever you can so you can retrieve it after repairing your device.
Always make a backup after every major change you make on your device so you'll always have a backup that includes the new additions so you can restore to that point if you need to. When you make a new backup you can delete the old one unless you just want to keep it but the more backups you make the more room they take.
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So if I make a backup now what are the steps in restoring what I can salvage.
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So if I make a backup now what are the steps in restoring what I can salvage.
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Don't get ahead of yourself, for now just make the backup and then focus on getting the device restored to working again and THEN you can worry about retrieving the data.
One step at a time, stop trying to cross bridges you haven't gotten to yet.
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Answer 1) to prevent this in the future, when you get straightened out, boot to recovery and make a nandroid backup, that way you have a backup of everything with it working correctly that can easily be restored later if you have problems and will put you back to having everything the way it was when you made the backup. Its like a restore point in Windows.
Answer 2) A nandroid backup backs up everything on your device that is important, all of your settings, your contacts, your ROM, everything. You can pull whatever data from the backup that you need. But the backup I'm telling you to make right now nay not keep everything you had, there's no telling right now how much data you've lost or not so making the backup is to save whatever you can so you can retrieve it after repairing your device.
Always make a backup after every major change you make on your device so you'll always have a backup that includes the new additions so you can restore to that point if you need to. When you make a new backup you can delete the old one unless you just want to keep it but the more backups you make the more room they take.
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So I did a backup to my computer. What are the speps in restoring what i can salvage?
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So I did a backup to my computer. What are the speps in restoring what i can salvage?
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No, not a backup to computer, boot to TWRP and choose the backup option, nandroid are created in recovery. Using PC isn't the right way to do what I said.
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No, not a backup to computer, boot to TWRP and choose the backup option, nandroid are created in recovery. Using PC isn't the right way to do what I said.
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Thats what I did but I put it on my PC for next time
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Thats what I did but I put it on my PC for next time
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You don't have an extsdcard? If so its best to keep it there.
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You don't have an extsdcard? If so its best to keep it there.
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I kinda do with the OTG feature
So I return to my question, What are steps of salvaging
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I kinda do with the OTG feature
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Never mind then, just keep it on PC
Now, look through your forum and find a custom ROM that works on your model number and a compatible gapps package(the ROM thread will tell you which gapps you need so don't ask) and then flash ROM then superSU then Gapps in TWRP then reboot and see if you're fixed.
If that doesn't do it then you'll need to go to Sammobile.com or samsung-updates.com and type in your model number to find your firmware, download it and then flash it in Odin in the AP slot, the same slot you flashed your kernel to root.
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Never mind then, just keep it on PC
Now, look through your forum and find a custom ROM that works on your model number and a compatible gapps package(the ROM thread will tell you which gapps you need so don't ask) and then flash ROM then superSU then Gapps in TWRP then reboot and see if you're fixed.
If that doesn't do it then you'll need to go to Sammobile.com or samsung-updates.com and type in your model number to fins your firmware, download it and then flash it in Odin in the AP slot, the same slot you flashed your kernel to root.
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Can I restore a nandroid backup with a stock ROM?

Installing Magisk on Lollipop 5.0 - Paradox?

Ok, so here is an explanation of what I have going on here. My ultimate goal is to install Magisk on my phone (Running Kitkat 4.4) . I have learned that in order to do that, I need to install a custom recovery on my phone. I have learned that normal custom recoveries cannot be installed on AT&T phones because they have double locked bootloaders or something of that nature, but that Safestrap can work around it. So after finding all that out I successfully installed Safestrap then went on to install Magisk, but when I tried to install the zip, I was told that it is only compatible with Android 5.0 minimum. Fast-forward, I install Lollipop 5.0 on my phone successfully. I then go back and install safestrap, however it appears that it is now not compatible with my upgraded kernel and will not show me the custom recovery on startup... So it seems as if Safestrap will only work for me on Kitkat, but what I need it to do I can only do on Lollipop. Am I simply out of luck, or is there some cleaver way around this?
I appreciate any help I can get on the matter.
Did you root your phone while on KK? If not, you may be out of luck now. There are a few lollipop rooted rooms that will work and you can keep using SS but you must already be rooted. Mine is still rooted with SS, I am not upgrading for the foreseeable future.
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Did you root your phone while on KK? If not, you may be out of luck now. There are a few lollipop rooted rooms that will work and you can keep using SS but you must already be rooted. Mine is still rooted with SS, I am not upgrading for the foreseeable future.
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Yes, I rooted my phone while still on KK, then I used Flashfire to upgrade to LP which allowed me to still keep root.
Unfortunately I am not sure why SS isn't working for you, not sure if the lollipop Rom you installed is having issues with it or what? As for the locked boot loader, these phones are like fort Knox. SS is merely a bypass that does not replace an unlocked boot loader.
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Yes, I rooted my phone while still on KK, then I used Flashfire to upgrade to LP which allowed me to still keep root.
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Ok so if you have three of these four things it should work for you depending if your running a g900a or 870a ,1. you will need the kernel flasher ,900a takes nce kernel flasher , 870a requires ng3 kernal flasher , these are model specific. 2. Busybox installed . 3. Safestrap. 4 safetrap flashable kernels.zips. install busybox, install whichever specific kernel flasher you have per your model, install safetrap. Make sure you have the flashable kernel zip for lollipop on external sd for safe keeping. Cuz if you wipe internal sd for any reason and the zip you will have to resort to the odin flashable versions and odin. Then flash kk kernel with flasher apk then you should enter ss ,flash install magisk then install again the recovery flashable kernel .zip for lollipop and then reboot back into lollipop. All good.
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Ok so if you have three of these four things it should work for you depending if your running a g900a or 870a ,1. you will need the kernel flasher ,900a takes nce kernel flasher , 870a requires ng3 kernal flasher , these are model specific. 2. Busybox installed . 3. Safestrap. 4 safetrap flashable kernels.zips. install busybox, install whichever specific kernel flasher you have per your model, install safetrap. Make sure you have the flashable kernel zip for lollipop on external sd for safe keeping. Cuz if you wipe internal sd for any reason and the zip you will have to resort to the odin flashable versions and odin. Then flash kk kernel with flasher apk then you should enter ss ,flash install magisk then install again the recovery flashable kernel .zip for lollipop and then reboot back into lollipop. All good.
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Alright, now we're getting somewhere. So I downloaded NCE Kernel Flasher (I have 900a), along with the G900A_OC4_Stock_KERNEL_Recovery-Flashable.zip file. So is that file the stock kernel for Lollipop to bring me back after using the program? From what the instructions say, it looks like the NCE Kernel Flasher already comes with the Kitkat kernel in it, but I am still not certain I am reading this correctly.
My second question is about the Magisk program itself if you have any insight on that which you could offer. It is recommended that it be installed on a stock rom, and I believe I need to be unrooted when I put it on to make it work correctly. So while I'm in the safestrap recovery via NCE Flasher, should I do a factory reset first, then flash magisk, then flash the stock kernel zip?
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Alright, now we're getting somewhere. So I downloaded NCE Kernel Flasher (I have 900a), along with the G900A_OC4_Stock_KERNEL_Recovery-Flashable.zip file. So is that file the stock kernel for Lollipop to bring me back after using the program? From what the instructions say, it looks like the NCE Kernel Flasher already comes with the Kitkat kernel in it, but I am still not certain I am reading this correctly.
My second question is about the Magisk program itself if you have any insight on that which you could offer. It is recommended that it be installed on a stock rom, and I believe I need to be unrooted when I put it on to make it work correctly. So while I'm in the safestrap recovery via NCE Flasher, should I do a factory reset first, then flash magisk, then flash the stock kernel zip?
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Really i havent messed with magisk at all so i cant say anything about that . But yes after you flash it or install it just go back to the install button and install the kernel zip to get you back to lollipop. Then reboot. And yes they are only stock kernels because the bootloader wont let us use custom kernels
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But on your second question i dont see how you can install it and not be rooted . Because you have to be rooted to have ss running.
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Really i havent messed with magisk at all so i cant say anything about that . But yes after you flash it or install it just go back to the install button and install the kernel zip to get you back to lollipop. Then reboot. And yes they are only stock kernels because the bootloader wont let us use custom kernels
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But on your second question i dont see how you can install it and not be rooted . Because you have to be rooted to have ss running.
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Ok, thanks. I successfully booted up into SS mode. I made a backup just in case I need it, then did a factory reset. I chose my Magisk file through the install option, and confirmed it for installation. But now is shows that it is flashing the file, but I have been stuck on the same screen for roughly 20 minutes so far, with no progress on the status bar. From all of the videos I've seen, it looks like this flashing procedure shouldn't take longer than a minute or so, and I fear that something has gone wrong. I know I need to flash my Lollipop kernal back prior to leaving SS, but if my phone is indeed frozen, if I take out the battery and power it up, will I still get a SS Recovery prompt prior to my Samsung logo popping up so I can restore the backup and my correct kernel, or am I on the path to bricksville?
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Really i havent messed with magisk at all so i cant say anything about that . But yes after you flash it or install it just go back to the install button and install the kernel zip to get you back to lollipop. Then reboot. And yes they are only stock kernels because the bootloader wont let us use custom kernels
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But on your second question i dont see how you can install it and not be rooted . Because you have to be rooted to have ss running.
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So I did just take out the battery, and was able to get back into custom recovery and restore my backup. I tried to install magisk a few more times to no avail. (Kept saying installing but never progressed) My only thought is that maybe because Magisk is not compatible with Kitkat, I would need to update the kernel back to lollipop first before installing magisk. My concern though is, if that is not what the issue is, then restoring my kernel will keep me from being able to re-enter custom recovery to restore my data if I need to. Does that sound like it could be a plausible reason that the file will not install?
Also, if I do attempt to update the kernel in SS, should I still be able to use Odin to restore a stock rom if I have to pull the battery on my device again due to it freezing during installaion? (I've only used Odin twice, so I'm not 100% sure of it's capabilities).
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So I did just take out the battery, and was able to get back into custom recovery and restore my backup. I tried to install magisk a few more times to no avail. (Kept saying installing but never progressed) My only thought is that maybe because Magisk is not compatible with Kitkat, I would need to update the kernel back to lollipop first before installing magisk. My concern though is, if that is not what the issue is, then restoring my kernel will keep me from being able to re-enter custom recovery to restore my data if I need to. Does that sound like it could be a plausible reason that the file will not install?
Also, if I do attempt to update the kernel in SS, should I still be able to use Odin to restore a stock rom if I have to pull the battery on my device again due to it freezing during installaion? (I've only used Odin twice, so I'm not 100% sure of it's capabilities).
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Hows it goin? Sorry i dont pop in all the time here . Yes odin will work fine everytime as long as its all stock .but it will wipe everything again except external sd card . So if you saved a backup to internal sd it will be wiped . If you saved to ext sd it will still be there if you have to odin . And everything else will be gone also like ss and kernal flasher and all itll be pure stock again also will erase root.
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Everything is returnable from on these phones unless you update the bootloader past oc1. Then no root . Even if you hardbrick where it will hardly do nothing but make a sound when plug it to your computer is fixable . But it is a lengthy process and hope you two of them to be able to fix the other or do the right method and be able to flash an image to an sdcard to get you into download mode .lol unless you brick it and just sell it to me for 5 bucks lol.
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Hows it goin? Sorry i dont pop in all the time here . Yes odin will work fine everytime as long as its all stock .but it will wipe everything again except external sd card . So if you saved a backup to internal sd it will be wiped . If you saved to ext sd it will still be there if you have to odin . And everything else will be gone also like ss and kernal flasher and all itll be pure stock again also will erase root.
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Everything is returnable from on these phones unless you update the bootloader past oc1. Then no root . Even if you hardbrick where it will hardly do nothing but make a sound when plug it to your computer is fixable . But it is a lengthy process and hope you two of them to be able to fix the other or do the right method and be able to flash an image to an sdcard to get you into download mode .lol unless you brick it and just sell it to me for 5 bucks lol.
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Ok, good to know. I retried booting into SS, reinstalling lollipop kernel, then installing Magisk, but it still froze without any progress. I think the problem is that I the phone is rooted, and Magisk may only be able to be installed on an unrooted phone (It is meant to replace traditional root with a systemless version that can be toggled on and off). But like you said, I cannot get into my custom recovery unless I'm rooted, so that is the predicament I currently find myself in. I actually tried to uninstall root via SuperUser, but that also froze from me when it showed it was supposed to be uninstalling. I'm not sure if that is due to my phone being rooted on KitKat, and that carrying it over into Lollipop ingrained it to the point where I cannot easily take it out. Anyways, it's looking pretty grim for me being able to install this on my device, but I think I may have to go lurking around in a Magisk forum for my next lead.
Anyways, I really appreciate your help in the matter leading me to how to run SS on Lollipop; I'm sure it will come in hand in the future!

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