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Oh crap no LTE but still happy at Google move..

The Verge reports that Google has opted not to partner with any US carriers. Every Nexus 4 will be an unlocked device, and while that means no more pointless waiting for software updates (looking at you Verizon Galaxy Nexus), it also means no LTE radios.
The other small letdown is the phone's meager onboard storage options. The Nexus 4 starts at $299 with 8GB; $349 gets you 16GB
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HSPA+ is fast enough.

Agreed.. but still $300 for an unlocked smartphone with those specs!!!!
You'd be stupid to pass up such a sweet deal! I'll gladly get over lte for that price
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But this really concerns me the point of a quad-core when you don't have the storage to download more than 1-2 games that will utilize the specs? For example, most Gameloft and EA games that could use these specs are easily 1.8 gb or more. On an 8gb phone, unless you use cloud services, I'll cry within a few months for sure. I wish Google can ditch the idea of having only internal storage (Yeah !!! Like that's ever gonna happen but still) and come up with external storage like on the S3 and note 2 .. a 32gb MicroSD card for all my music, videos, camera pictures, files etc..
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if I go with this I would use the USB OTG and stickmount app I use on my nexus 7. I've done pretty good using dropbox and a 16gb flash drive with my 8gb N7. Wondering if the photo sphere will be able to be ported to my Sprint SG3. And yeah 300 for a phone and no commitment is awesome.

Bummer. No LTE means a lost sale from me. Bandwidth is everything. Maps, directions, movie times, sports scores, traffic updates, email attachments... LTE.
Very strange decision by Google to abandon LTE.

Euler MD said:
HSPA+ is fast enough.
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Agreed. Even though is nice to have the feature, HSPA+ is good enough for my needs.

I'm grandfathered into Unlimited LTE with Verizon... WTH am I supposed to do?!? I'm assuming I either have to wait it out OR jump on the Note 2

eyan2011 said:
The Verge reports that Google has opted not to partner with any US carriers. p
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Not true. T-mobile will be offering this device on-contract starting Nov 14th.

bozzykid said:
Not true. T-mobile will be offering this device on-contract starting Nov 14th.
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Is it true the Tmobile version supports up to 42mbps speeds,while the play store version only supports 21?

Nospin said:
Is it true the Tmobile version supports up to 42mbps speeds,while the play store version only supports 21?
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T-mobile hasn't announced if there will be any differences from the Play Store version so no one knows at this point. But I would be surprised to see a different radio just for HSPA+42.

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T-mobile hasn't announced if there will be any differences from the Play Store version so no one knows at this point. But I would be surprised to see a different radio just for HSPA+42.
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I suspect all that will be required is a different software radio, not hardware.

SeatownGST said:
Bummer. No LTE means a lost sale from me. Bandwidth is everything. Maps, directions, movie times, sports scores, traffic updates, email attachments... LTE.
Very strange decision by Google to abandon LTE.
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None of those things warrant LTE speeds. None. Maybe email attachments depending on their size.

albundy2010 said:
None of those things warrant LTE speeds. None. Maybe email attachments depending on their size.
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I suspect most people's experience with 3G is limited to crappy Sprint and VZW's 3G networks. In that case, it could be a deal breaker.....1-2mb/s down is pathetic. Now, T-Mobile users have no issue as their "4G" network is very fast. Not sure about ATT's, but I think it is similar to T-Mobile's now.

Sweet.. im almost gonna finish my job in india by the time I head back home i can depend on t mobile... and sell my unlocked s3 for public purpose and keep my note 2 for gaming, artist and business related purposes...... cuz im soooooooo gonna get the nexus 10... the screen ppi & battery.. this tablet screen hands down beats any ipads or any tablets on the market... Nexus 10 is a beast...
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The Verge article for those who missed it http://www.theverge.com/2012/10/29/3569688/why-nexus-4-does-not-have-4g-lte I hope this pushes carriers to be more open.

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I suspect most people's experience with 3G is limited to crappy Sprint and VZW's 3G networks. In that case, it could be a deal breaker.....1-2mb/s down is pathetic. Now, T-Mobile users have no issue as their "4G" network is very fast. Not sure about ATT's, but I think it is similar to T-Mobile's now.
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Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.
I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.
I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.

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Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.
I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.
I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.
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Same here...I get like 5 down and 1.5-2 up on my 7.2 mbit radio so anything will be an upgrade. I suspect the Nexus 4 will top out around 10-12 down and the same 1.5-2 up on T-Mobile.

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Yeah you're probably right. CDMA 3g networks suck. The 3g gsm networks in the states are much better. As long as you have signal service of course.
I use a 3g tmobile and those speeds are enough. Not the higher speed 4g branded speeds either. The 7.2mbit HSDPA radio.
I agree that speed is good and all that. But I am really starting to get annoyed by people dropping LTE as nothing more than a buzzword.
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Bingo. The 3G service is deprecated and the apps are requesting more and more data. So when you initially said "none" you were completely wrong. For example, the WSDOT app I used now is updated, and slower than ever. It gets a GPS lock then just grinds forever trying to sync up the map and traffic advisory overlays. That's all data. Since I am paying for smartphone monthly usage, I am wasting money now by continuing with 3G. It makes zero sense to perpetuate paying for 3G service. It's not a buzzword when it's a significant upgrade in throughput, and it can be any other acronym and I'd use that just as much.
I still think google is off their rocker to "wait it out" as they put it. And the Maxx HD television advertisement says it can do voice and data at the same time, on Verizon... if true, that would be pretty huge for us Verizon folks and our terrible CDMA 3G access, going to LTE and simultaneous voice/data.

There is a difference between the gsm networks that the phone will actually run on and the CDMA /lte a Verizon or Sprint version would.
When people say I can't go without lte over att / T-Mobile networks for those tasks its rubbish to me.
Sure sprints and Verizon 3g is awful and I would never go back to them ( or have been on them in the first place) but we aren't comparing lte speeds to those. Its against the unlocked gsm networks.
Verizon network is great coverage wise. So is its lte speeds and coverage. Those are valid reasons to be with them and not switch.
But that I can't leave my lte speeds for a unlocked gsm phone because of the speed for the most basic smart phone tasks .is nonsense to me. That is what I am seeing more and more off. The omg I can't live without my lte /buzzword crap.

thinking about switching from Sprint to Verizon

I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Verizon and what phone features didn't you have with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. I don't want to go through the hassle of switching if Verizon is so stripped down you can't use the phones.

You'll lose unlimited data. You've been with Sprint for 13 years now, are they not providing good service in your area? Be aware that later this year Sprint will be adding voice carriers on 800Mhz which will greatly increase your voice coverage. Later on they will be adding LTE carrier(s) on 800Mhz as well as part of network vision 2.0 which will greatly increase LTE coverage as well.
But if big red can offer better service for your needs then that will clearly be the better, more expensive, option.
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With Verizon, you'll likely experience slower updates and a couple extra hoops to flash custom ROMs.
If Verizon didn't screw me over in the past, then I'd probably give them a chance again since in my area, they offer the best coverage for data.

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You'll lose unlimited data. You've been with Sprint for 13 years now, are they not providing good service in your area? Be aware that later this year Sprint will be adding voice carriers on 800Mhz which will greatly increase your voice coverage. Later on they will be adding LTE carrier(s) on 800Mhz as well as part of network vision 2.0 which will greatly increase LTE coverage as well.
But if big red can offer better service for your needs then that will clearly be the better, more expensive, option.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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bndfishing said:
I've been with Sprint for 13 years and am thinking heavily about moving to Verizon and the S4 mainly for better coverage and data speed. Who has come from Verizon and what phone features didn't you have with Verizon? I have heard that Verizon doesn't have visual voice mail or google maps navigation. I don't want to go through the hassle of switching if Verizon is so stripped down you can't use the phones.
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Google Maps Navigation is a app from Google, Verizon can't stop you from using it. If you want Visual Voice mail just download something like Google voice.
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Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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Google Maps Navigation is a app from Google, Verizon can't stop you from using it. If you want Visual Voice mail just download something like Google voice.
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I've heard radio technicians rave about att, but I don't care. They still are the evil empire IMO.

GiantJay said:
Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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Care to elaborate on what makes Verizons' radio technology so much better than Sprints'? Why do you think AWS is going to be great? If it's any indication from T-Mobile, AWS has absolutely terrible building penetration in metro areas. I don't deny that Verizon has a decent network, I used to use them for my carrier. When they started the tiered data plans and only letting you grandfather unlimited plans by paying for the FULL price of a phone, they started feeling too anti-consumer to me so I left. Having to worry about how much data I use in 2013 is awfully draconian.
We get that Sprints' legacy network is old, slow, and overloaded. Network Vision is replacing EVERY site with new hardware and backhaul. Even 1x only sites will get the full Network Vision treatment(800Mhz CDMA/LTE and 1900Mhz CDMA/LTE). With that said, I've NEVER had one issue with voice coverage with Sprint, only slow data in metro areas. /anecdote
With 800Mhz 1xAdvance/LTE on the horizon, Sprint will be even better.

I've been with Sprint for a while... I 1/2 thought about changing to Verizon this year when my contract was up (I HATE AT&T so I won't switch to them) but honestly it wasn't worth it for me. I have unlimited data, my coverage has been very good. Yes I only have 3g, but for what I use my phone for most of the time, it's fine (I don't surf the web much on my phone or watch Youtube, so...). They are also in the process of putting 4g in my area, although it will probably be a while before it is complete. I also get a discount though work with Sprint so it would cost me a lot more to go to Verizon. Every time I have had to call Sprint Customer Service they have been very helpful (which is only a few times).
In the end, it just wasn't worth it for me to switch.

You'll lose unlimited there customer service sucks there phones are so bloated and have locked bootloaders your Better off going with tmobile it is about the same price as sprint and there hspa+ network is as fast or faster than Lte and it is all ready nation wide.
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Same thing happend to me so I left vzw.
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It all depends on your area to what carrier to go with. That's why they have a 14 day period to cancel service. Ask friends and family about different providers and check out the sensorly app in the Play store for real coverage.
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GiantJay said:
It all depends on your area to what carrier to go with. That's why they have a 14 day period to cancel service. Ask friends and family about different providers and check out the sensorly app in the Play store for real coverage.
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Unfortunately if you're using an EVO lte the coverage map means nothing because I rarely get 4g where the map says I should have 2 bars. Even with airplane mode toggle I still can't pick it up. I usually use my wife's turd viper to check and almost always she has it. When I do have lte my wife's viper still gets better speeds. That's probably my main reason for getting s4 over the one because it's supposed to have the same problems. That's probably the biggest plus for the plastic over aluminum.
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optimummind said:
With Verizon, you'll likely experience slower updates and a couple extra hoops to flash custom ROMs.
If Verizon didn't screw me over in the past, then I'd probably give them a chance again since in my area, they offer the best coverage for data.
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OMG, this & you can say bye bye to your unlimited plan, locked bootloader, terrible customer service. Verizon is just a big headache. They gave me horrible nightmares.

GiantJay said:
Verizon is light years ahead of Sprint in every aspect of radio technology. Verizon's S4 is the first phone compatible with their AWS network. Sprint is a freaking joke compared to Verizon. Radio technicians completely rag on how bad Sprint is.
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To be fair, going by history, they'll probably push the AWS software enable update to their S4 about 9 months after the AWS launch and have a 500Mb data cap.

Currently (and will PROBABLY stay a Sprint customer), however, as for 800MHz LTE, as far as I know, there's no current phones that will be able to take advantage of that once it becomes available (unless Sprint is planning something similar for the S4 and they just haven't advertised it yet). 800MHz for voice will work for virtually everyone... but no phone out there right now is going to see an improvement data-wise from that spectrum. Pretty sure they announced at CTIA that only the new phones coming later this year will be able to take advantage of it.

I personally moved away from Sprint even with having LTE coverage and discover the world of MVNO and haven't regretted it one bit.
I've always thought prepaid service was for those with bad credit but oh boy was I wrong, times have changed.
Now I look at those who are under contracts and over paying for service as suckers.
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Currently (and will PROBABLY stay a Sprint customer), however, as for 800MHz LTE, as far as I know, there's no current phones that will be able to take advantage of that once it becomes available (unless Sprint is planning something similar for the S4 and they just haven't advertised it yet). 800MHz for voice will work for virtually everyone... but no phone out there right now is going to see an improvement data-wise from that spectrum. Pretty sure they announced at CTIA that only the new phones coming later this year will be able to take advantage of it.
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Correct, there are currently no Sprint 800Mhz LTE phones available. The current S4 cannot do LTE on 800.
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I personally moved away from Sprint even with having LTE coverage and discover the world of MVNO and haven't regretted it one bit.
I've always thought prepaid service was for those with bad credit but oh boy was I wrong, times have changed.
Now I look at those who are under contracts and over paying for service as suckers.
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Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?

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Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?
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Cross carrier roaming is allowed between AT&T and T Mobile if you choose a GMS phone.
From what I heard Verizon and Sprint allows cross carrier roaming through Straight Talk. If you choose to use a CDMA phone.
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Correct, there are currently no Sprint 800Mhz LTE phones available. The current S4 cannot do LTE on 800.
Do you get cross carrier roaming on Sprint MVNOs?
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ting lets calls/text on roaming but not data
but at 36 bucks a month for any sprint device you already have for what compares to the 30 dollar tmo plan

shook187 said:
Cross carrier roaming is allowed between AT&T and T Mobile if you choose a GMS phone.
From what I heard Verizon and Sprint allows cross carrier roaming through Straight Talk. If you choose to use a CDMA phone.
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ting lets calls/text on roaming but not data
but at 36 bucks a month for any sprint device you already have for what compares to the 30 dollar tmo plan
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Good to know!

Funny because I just left Verizon for Sprint. The data speeds are unbelievable but there too expensive. I also have a 27% discount through my employer with Sprint, so that is a plus. I gotta admit I'm loving this unlimited data thing.
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I switched from AT&T to sprint. Unlimited data is cool, but unfortunately it is SO SLOW in the areas I travel to it is pointless. And that is even in some of sprints LTE areas.
And the voice coverage sucks in the areas I go to for business too.
Sprint has great plans, and if you have good coverage they are hard to beat. Problem is that their voice and data network coverage is crap compared to Verizon or AT&T...
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T-Mobile Being Aggressive Here...

http://mobile.theverge.com/2013/10/...imited-global-data-roaming-at-no-extra-charge
Look at that... What do hmu guys think?
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I should have bought an unlocked phone grabbed a tmo SIM and be on my marry a$$ way instead of dealing with this dinosaur spead 3g ....golly ...good grief!!
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this is awesome, hopefully sprint catches on and does something similar. Sprints international rates are atrocious! Although the One does have removable SIM capabilities, it would cut down the hassle of acquiring one in a different country and possibly having to cut it to microsim specs.

I regret my decision of staying with sprint every day. It takes me over 2 minutes to do a simple Google search on sprints network in my area that is supposedly in an LTE zone. The network is atrocious and they keep saying theyre upgrading the towers but it's been almost a year and if anything it's only gotten worse. The only thing that stopped me from going to T-Mobile was their terrible coverage in Michigan. Here's hoping this announcement gets Sprint moving to finally deploying a data network that is usable.

This is awesome, not because it makes me wanna switch to T-Mobile, but because it makes other carriers have to step up their game to compete on a level playing field

I for one like sprint. Except when I have 3g. Then it just plain sucks. Thankfully I have LTE almost everywhere

You do know that sprint may buy out T-Mobile
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Somebody should leak T-Mobile
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FrozenRiff said:
Somebody should leak T-Mobile
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Haha that my friend is the quote of the day !!!
Haha good job
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Tmobile is great haha just switched over and still using my sprint HTC one highest I've seen on speedtest is 6.9 mb/s Download keep in mind this is 3G
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How the Hell did T-Mobile beat sprint I'm the LTE ROLLOUT?! SERIOUSLY
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CNexus said:
This is awesome, not because it makes me wanna switch to T-Mobile, but because it makes other carriers have to step up their game to compete on a level playing field
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^^^^this^^^^
Look at what happened when the $5 hot and ready pizza came out. Everybody changed pricing or menu items to become more competitive... :thumbup:
Or fast food 'value' menu's, suddenly every fast food chain had one...
Or 60 second abs, soon it only took 45 seconds!
Kudos to T-Mobile for doing something new.

XaoSilentrzk said:
How the Hell did T-Mobile beat sprint I'm the LTE ROLLOUT?! SERIOUSLY
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Someone should leak LTE for sprint
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Haha omg ^^^^ this guy good
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Coverage needs improvement but I get good speeds
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Damn you Sprint!!! All I want is LTE....is that too much to ask?
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You do know that sprint may buy out T-Mobile
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This is not going to happen. T mobile is on a roll. There network is better. There plans are better and there upgrade plan is better. They are taking the other threes customers daily. They are going to surpass sprint very quickly if they haven't and their lte coverage has already surpassed sprint. Sprint still doesn't care and sprints lte network as a whole is terrible. Yeah some people post some big speeds but for the most part most of us are not impressed. If t mobile has the monetary status to roll out their lte network like this so does sprint. T mobile was almost dead a year and a half ago. Sprint put in an lte network to say they are lte. Nothing more. Sorry sprint. T mobile has +42 hspa and lte. Why are we still here? Contract up in June and I'll bet t mobile has lte before sprint where I live so this is my last with sprint. End RANT!
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treIII said:
This is not going to happen. T mobile is on a roll. There network is better. There plans are better and there upgrade plan is better. They are taking the other threes customers daily. They are going to surpass sprint very quickly if they haven't and their lte coverage has already surpassed sprint. Sprint still doesn't care and sprints lte network as a whole is terrible. Yeah some people post some big speeds but for the most part most of us are not impressed. If t mobile has the monetary status to roll out their lte network like this so does sprint. T mobile was almost dead a year and a half ago. Sprint put in an lte network to say they are lte. Nothing more. Sorry sprint. T mobile has +42 hspa and lte. Why are we still here? Contract up in June and I'll bet t mobile has lte before sprint where I live so this is my last with sprint. End RANT!
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What T-Mobile is doing for pricing and their offering is amazing. I really hope it spurs some real price competition from Sprint. Their 3G coverage in my area is total crap though, EDGE only in all of Bristol TN/VA and pretty much the entire areas around Johnson City and Kingsport. My biggest beef with T-Mobile is trust though. How do you trust a carrier that tried to sell their customer's out to the death star (AT&T)?
I do think Sprint is going to continue bleeding customers to T-Mobile unless they can do this:
-Provide some kind of similar free throttled international data, at the very least to Canada and Mexico.
-Go "no contract"
-Add sites to fix terrible 1900MHz LTE coverage in many areas where all their current towers have been upgraded but coverage still sucks, or hurry up on the tri-band phones and rollout of 800MHz LTE
-Lower the prices a bit
-Family plan price changes. Sprint's family plans are the worst deal out of the 4 carriers, and it's hard to make a worse deal than Verizon.
-Wifi calling on their phones would be better than the Airave program that I know costs Sprint lots of money
Basically, if Sprint would copy a lot of T-Mobile's ideas and fix serious issues with their LTE rollout, they'd be in a much better position. Sprint customer service is already better than T-Mobile, and that's pretty much the only selling point compared to T-Mobile besides superior non-LTE coverage. If things don't change soon, those selling points may become moot.

kwolf said:
What T-Mobile is doing for pricing and their offering is amazing. I really hope it spurs some real price competition from Sprint. Their 3G coverage in my area is total crap though, EDGE only in all of Bristol TN/VA and pretty much the entire areas around Johnson City and Kingsport. My biggest beef with T-Mobile is trust though. How do you trust a carrier that tried to sell their customer's out to the death star (AT&T)?
I do think Sprint is going to continue bleeding customers to T-Mobile unless they can do this:
-Provide some kind of similar free throttled international data, at the very least to Canada and Mexico.
-Go "no contract"
-Add sites to fix terrible 1900MHz LTE coverage in many areas where all their current towers have been upgraded but coverage still sucks, or hurry up on the tri-band phones and rollout of 800MHz LTE
-Lower the prices a bit
-Family plan price changes. Sprint's family plans are the worst deal out of the 4 carriers, and it's hard to make a worse deal than Verizon.
-Wifi calling on their phones would be better than the Airave program that I know costs Sprint lots of money
Basically, if Sprint would copy a lot of T-Mobile's ideas and fix serious issues with their LTE rollout, they'd be in a much better position. Sprint customer service is already better than T-Mobile, and that's pretty much the only selling point compared to T-Mobile besides superior non-LTE coverage. If things don't change soon, those selling points may become moot.
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If their service was better in the first place. We wouldn't need it so much. So as for this being a selling point. No good. T mobile has already surpassed sprint in their lte rollout. And at the pace they are moving they are definitely putting improvements from monetary gains immediately back in the company. It won't be long at this pace and the approach they have in winning customers that they will continue to move quickly in their customer gains and ranking. Their lte just came second to att and beat att in 20 markets. Sprint is doing nothing but putting lte on existing towers. Therefore until they actuall will not improve coverage but just provide lte when we are close enough to a tower. Softbanks acquisition of sprint hasn't showed any improvements of the speed of deployment of lte. We already have the networks vision implemented where I live and there is honestly no improvement in call quality nor 3g speeds other than once in a while. I live 1.6 miles from a tower that has the netwot vision improvements and I have to use an airrave. Makes my stomach turn honestly. I've asked them why I need the airrave. The tower is literally on my street and I can't make a call from home without the airrave. T mobile has made improvements where I live and many people I know have moved from sprint to tmobile.
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treIII said:
If their service was better in the first place. We wouldn't need it so much. So as for this being a selling point. No good. T mobile has already surpassed sprint in their lte rollout. And at the pace they are moving they are definitely putting improvements from monetary gains immediately back in the company. It won't be long at this pace and the approach they have in winning customers that they will continue to move quickly in their customer gains and ranking. Their lte just came second to att and beat att in 20 markets. Sprint is doing nothing but putting lte on existing towers. Therefore until they actuall will not improve coverage but just provide lte when we are close enough to a tower. Softbanks acquisition of sprint hasn't showed any improvements of the speed of deployment of lte. We already have the networks vision implemented where I live and there is honestly no improvement in call quality nor 3g speeds other than once in a while. I live 1.6 miles from a tower that has the netwot vision improvements and I have to use an airrave. Makes my stomach turn honestly. I've asked them why I need the airrave. The tower is literally on my street and I can't make a call from home without the airrave. T mobile has made improvements where I live and many people I know have moved from sprint to tmobile.
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I live 3/4 of a mile from a tower and only get 1-2 bars inside without the Airave. I feel your pain. My T-Mobile friends cannot use their phones in my house at all unless they switch it to Wi-Fi calling.
T-Mobile is an absolute joke in this rural area. Right now they're only a serious option in cities, and nothing has changed regarding their coverage in my area or surrounding areas, so I have no reason to suspect this will change. Sprint has 3G all along I-81 even in rural southwest VA, whereas T-Mobile has only EDGE in SWVA for 3 hours from the state line, and they have only EDGE between the Tri Cities and Knoxville. Sprint has also added LTE to much of this area, for example the Greeneville, TN and Bristol, TN/VA markets have LTE from Sprint but only Edge from T-Mobile. T-Mobile LTE has not touched any region within 3 hours of me besides Asheville NC. My friend just drove up to Athens, OH on T-Mobile and was roaming for 5 hours of the 7 hour drive because T-Mobile has crap rural coverage. There is Sprint 3G coverage on that entire drive and 4G for the first hour.
If you live in a city T-Mobile may be great for you, but it's still not an option for most rural or semi-rural people.

Goodbye T-Mobile and Sprint. Hello Softbank USA!

I figured I'd post this here
http://pocketnow.com/2014/06/07/softbank-usa
As John Legere, the future CEO of Softbank USA has said, Uncarrier is here to stay!
I hope this means that I get Tri-Band on my Nexus 5!
-A T-Mobile Customer.

I have no problem with this even though my Sero plan will probably be going away as long as Dan Hesse gets canned and John Legere takes control with the TMO way of doing business.

this sounds awesome

Not a big fan of the name. SoftBank USA sounds more of a bank name than a carrier name.

zephiK said:
Not a big fan of the name. SoftBank USA sounds more of a bank name than a carrier name.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank
SoftBank is a Japanese telecommunications company who owns Sprint and soon T-Mobile.

I hope they keep unlimited data.
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Hope they merge to a all GSM network, instead of a hodgepodge of all the different tech used by Sprint and T-Mo.
Wouldn't the logical and smart name for the company be SprinT-Mobile?
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Beauenheim said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SoftBank
SoftBank is a Japanese telecommunications company who owns Sprint and soon T-Mobile.
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I'm aware of what soft bank is.. I was saying that I'm not the biggest fan of the name because it sounds like a bank more than a carrier name.
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Seriously, what does this mean for us N5 users? With the addition of Sprint Spark, the N5 can connect to literally EVERY band both companies have, 3G, HSPA+, T-Mo LTE, Sprint Band 25/26/41 LTE, etc...Will SoftBank issue new SIMs to utilize both networks? They might consolidate into GSM, but Sprint Spark is significantly more advanced then HSPA+/T-Mo LTE, and I think that they'd want to utilize that...Either way, should be interesting...

Koopa777 said:
Seriously, what does this mean for us N5 users? With the addition of Sprint Spark, the N5 can connect to literally EVERY band both companies have, 3G, HSPA+, T-Mo LTE, Sprint Band 25/26/41 LTE, etc...Will SoftBank issue new SIMs to utilize both networks? They might consolidate into GSM, but Sprint Spark is significantly more advanced then HSPA+/T-Mo LTE, and I think that they'd want to utilize that...Either way, should be interesting...
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T-Mobile also has 20x20 LTE which is pretty fast. They're most likely going to go to VoLTE route.

in the end i dont really see a down side to any of this. just really hope they dont do away with unlimited data.

May the Mobile Data Gods be with us!
If you don't see a downside to this, you have never been on Sprint (lucky you). The absolute worst network has been hemorrhaging customers for quite a while for a reason, me as one of them. I am glad to see the rumor mill is for T-Mobile CEO to take the lead job, but I see great potential for my wonderful T-Mobile to be harmed mightily. Lets hope for the best
StevieJ

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If you don't see a downside to this, you have never been on Sprint (lucky you). The absolute worst network has been hemorrhaging customers for quite a while for a reason, me as one of them. I am glad to see the rumor mill is for T-Mobile CEO to take the lead job, but I see great potential for my wonderful T-Mobile to be harmed mightily. Lets hope for the best
StevieJ
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Speak for yourself. T-Mobile has 2G coverage in my town. Sprint(which I'm on) has 3G, and in the city next to me, Sprint has blanketed LTE, while T-Mobile has spotty HSPA and barely any LTE. In the sticks, Sprint is almost always better than T-Mobile, hell AT&T has more deadspots around my area than Sprint...

I'll be ok with the merger, as long as its like T-mobile taking sprint over, and not the other way around. Get rid of all sprint higher ups, and keep t-mobiles, because obviously the current t-mobile is much more capable then sprint has ever been since the sprint/nextel merger.
And i better get to keep my $30 100 min, unlim text 5gig data plan.

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As long as they keep unlimited data and the UP phone upgrade program, I'm all for it.
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misfit0313 said:
Hope they merge to a all GSM network, instead of a hodgepodge of all the different tech used by Sprint and T-Mo.
Wouldn't the logical and smart name for the company be SprinT-Mobile?
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The most likely course of action is that the networks will remain as is and the combined company will transition to all LTE and eventually shut off the CDMA/GSM/UMTS networks completely.
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Considering they will most likely have 800, PCS, AWS and the spark band; they could take one of those bands and use a third for voLTE.
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Koopa777 said:
Speak for yourself. T-Mobile has 2G coverage in my town. Sprint(which I'm on) has 3G, and in the city next to me, Sprint has blanketed LTE, while T-Mobile has spotty HSPA and barely any LTE. In the sticks, Sprint is almost always better than T-Mobile, hell AT&T has more deadspots around my area than Sprint...
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Where I'm located (Houston Tx) T-Mobile sucks. I work w/ some guys who have great flagship devices and they have Tmo and are always getting dropped calls and data is spotty as all get out.
I'm in Biloxi Mississippi now and I have LTE about 70% of the time on Sprint. I have it 90% of the time in Houston and have for a while now. They have come a looooooooooong way. Guess it just depends on where you are located.
I hope the deal goes through. [emoji41]
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If this is seriously the final verdict of the merger...I have to say I'm terrified and excited all at the same time. Sprint is right next to Verizon with me..and I hate both of them, no opinion of AT&T though.
But I'm excited because as long as Legere is still CEO I don't think us original T-Mobile clients have to worry too much (been with T-Mobile since 1999)..and hopefully we end up on a grandfathered plan so we don't lose features or have an insane price hike... Because the most important thing to me on my plan is unlimited data.
Edit : this makes sense now and it goes along with Uncarrier 5.0... Legere wanted to increase revenue...so he got did away with 15% discounts with programs like Triple A (AAA) and made it so only government and military workers are the only ones capable of getting a discount)
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Nexus 6 on MetroPCS

I know MetroPCS piggyback off of tmo, but does anyone have any concrete info whether the nexus 6 will just work as intended on metroPCS, utilizing the same frequency/radio band as tmo? TIA!

It'll work fine

But does it utilize all the major bands that tmo are using, or will tmo segment off a few to prevent saturation on their own users?

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But does it utilize all the major bands that tmo are using, or will tmo segment off a few to prevent saturation on their own users?
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T-Mobile and MetroPCS use the same bands and towers. The Nexus 6 will work perfectly on both.
However, when it comes to network saturation, T-Mobile Post-paid customers get priorizitation over MetroPCS, pre-paid, and MVNO subscribers. But that has nothing to do with the phone. The phone itself will work the same exact way on Metro as it would on T-Mo.

I'm curious if anyone has ever actually activated one and seen it work first hand because Metro says the Motorola XT1103 is NOT compatible. Sorry for necro'ing a thread but I'm dying to leave sprint and they're the only decent unlim carrier around me without paying $100+/mo to get near unlim.

ninjagonepostal said:
I'm curious if anyone has ever actually activated one and seen it work first hand because Metro says the Motorola XT1103 is NOT compatible. Sorry for necro'ing a thread but I'm dying to leave sprint and they're the only decent unlim carrier around me without paying $100+/mo to get near unlim.
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metropcs is owned by tmobile, and uses tmobiles towers. my n6 i bought from tmobile. a few friends are on metro, one with a n6. hes using fine on metro. his only problem is that you dont get tmobiles full lte speeds on metro, they are slowed down. for example, wjen standing near each other, i get 50mbps download, while he gets 7mbps download speed. on the same towers! lol.

as others have said, it'll work. Screenshot attached shows speeds on LTE in the lower/mid-Hudson Valley, NY.

ninjagonepostal said:
I'm curious if anyone has ever actually activated one and seen it work first hand because Metro says the Motorola XT1103 is NOT compatible. Sorry for necro'ing a thread but I'm dying to leave sprint and they're the only decent unlim carrier around me without paying $100+/mo to get near unlim.
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I have and it works 100%. I have a line on metro that I had my nexus 6 on which is now on my tmobile line for business and one plus 2 on metro but it works fully even HQ call feature. Every aspect works as if it was on tmobile so dont sweat it.

simms22 said:
metropcs is owned by tmobile, and uses tmobiles towers. my n6 i bought from tmobile. a few friends are on metro, one with a n6. hes using fine on metro. his only problem is that you dont get tmobiles full lte speeds on metro, they are slowed down. for example, wjen standing near each other, i get 50mbps download, while he gets 7mbps download speed. on the same towers! lol.
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Yeah, I'm not worried about the speeds... I'll usually pull 30-75 down and put up 15-30 on my crappy free 4g lte phone I used with Metro when I had to send my N 6 in for repair... That's not the issue. On their site, they tell me my Nexus 6 is not compatible on their network. I know mine is sprint but, I have all the radios and bands for GSM and CDMA just like the rest of the Nexus 6's. That was why I asked.

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Yeah, I'm not worried about the speeds... I'll usually pull 30-75 down and put up 15-30 on my crappy free 4g lte phone I used with Metro when I had to send my N 6 in for repair... That's not the issue. On their site, they tell me my Nexus 6 is not compatible on their network. I know mine is sprint but, I have all the radios and bands for GSM and CDMA just like the rest of the Nexus 6's. That was why I asked.
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its all the same nexus 6, no differences, no matter where you buy it. only difference is between the us version and international version, then its only different lte bands.

simms22 said:
its all the same nexus 6, no differences, no matter where you buy it. only difference is between the us version and international version, then its only different lte bands.
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I get that's what it's supposed to be. But why would metro piece of **** tell me I can't then? It's not they they got the dumb and said, "you can't because your phone is CDMA." I didn't speak to a person. It's their company saying no phone not compatible. Idk if I have US or int'l tho. I have tdd and fdd LTE capabilities, which from what I understand, most other countries use tdd because 1/2 the bandwidth, double the porn. ?
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ninjagonepostal said:
I get that's what it's supposed to be. But why would metro piece of **** tell me I can't then? It's not they they got the dumb and said, "you can't because your phone is CDMA." I didn't speak to a person. It's their company saying no phone not compatible. Idk if I have US or int'l tho. I have tdd and fdd LTE capabilities, which from what I understand, most other countries use tdd because 1/2 the bandwidth, double the porn. ?
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i have no idea why their system is messed up. that happens, with every single company.

That explains things they refuse to admit. Sigh. Thank you.
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Yeah the MetroPCS compatible search is old and outdated trust me the N6(XT1103) works on MetroPCS

Here is another user with n6 and metropcs. Just got the microsim from their website and activated it with my imei number and done.

I'm on a Nexus 6 with MetroPCS and have no issues. With metro you need to call them to add the imei number of the device to their data base.
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When I had MetroPCS- WiFi calling (which I needed because Metro/Tmo don't have signal at my house) only worked for calling and SMS. MMS sending and receiving didn't work. But LTE and everything else worked fine.
Can anyone chime in and say if WiFi calling works with MMS now? I might want to switch back, especially now if they still have the 2 lines for $60 with 6gb of data promotion.