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i always think about using my bluetooth headset for regular phone lines.. i did find two ways but none of them worked:
1- a pc software that will enable headset profile on pc so i can use my jabra with my pc but this wont solve the program because the software which i found is not stable+ ive never found a modem which would enable using windows sound system to make a "real" phone calls
2- jabra offers an adapter for bluetooth headsets.. this adapter can connect with "any" blutooth headset and converts what it receives to regular 2.5mm jack...
so if i can find any adapter that would change the 2.5mm jack to regular 3.5mm jackS then i can use any bluetooth headset with speakerphone jacks in my modem....
the problem is that i couldnt find such an adapter.. put in mind is that 2.5mm is not ordinary 2.5mm.. it has one line for mono headphones and anothet for mic.. so i need an adapter that would change this to TWO separate jacks one for mic and one for headphones...
if someone heard of such adapter please help me..
i tried to make my own adapter but i couldnt find the right tools in local stores here...
USB-Dongle?
Hi Mephistodan,
won't a Bluetooth USB Dongle with headset profile solve your problem?
Unfortunately I don't have such a Dongle myself, but heard of several people who use these for sound input/output.
If you combine these with your 'softphone', it should do the job.
cheers,
madcap
mephistodan said:
.. so i need an adapter that would change this to TWO separate jacks one for mic and one for headphones...
if someone heard of such adapter please help me..
i tried to make my own adapter but i couldnt find the right tools in local stores here...
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I know that radio shack in the US sells a splitter like that. It was made for multimedia where it requires a seperate plug for mic and speaker. I have one that I picked up a while ago when I was using a headset on my pc for ip phone. I had to have seperate plug for mic and heaset then, this might work for you.
In looking real quick found this...
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog_name=CTLG&product_id=42-2428
Hope that helps
i dont belive that radioshack is in europe
but there are plenty of smaller chains which would prob
have the same products
In looking real quick found this...
http://www.radioshack.com/product.asp?catalog_name=CTLG&product_id=42-2428
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that DOES help.. thanx a lot
won't a Bluetooth USB Dongle with headset profile solve your problem?
Unfortunately I don't have such a Dongle myself, but heard of several people who use these for sound input/output.
If you combine these with your 'softphone', it should do the job.
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do you know of any software or and modem that enables using windows sound system for making real full duplex phone calls on regular phone line???
Radioshock in the UK is called Tandy, I have no idea why they decided to rename it though, they carry the same product range as the USA's Radioshack
to let you know there is "land line" plones out there that have bluetooth some are just base station type things some are full phones
try googleing
to let you know there is "land line" plones out there that have bluetooth some are just base station type things some are full phones
try googleing
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I know about them.. there are really really cool products but this will cost 300$ +.. besides i dont want a real phone solution because all i want to use the phone "stealthy" :wink:
won't a Bluetooth USB Dongle with headset profile solve your problem?
Unfortunately I don't have such a Dongle myself, but heard of several people who use these for sound input/output.
If you combine these with your 'softphone', it should do the job.
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do you know of any software or and modem that enables using windows sound system for making real full duplex phone calls on regular phone line???
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Hi Mephistodan,
no, sorry didn't have the time for the real important stuff, yet
I'd like to do what you are doing now with Cisco's IP Softphone (I know it's not a regular phone line).
Additionally, I found this @ geek.com:
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Jan/bpd20040126023599.htm
Don't know if it is out yet, and what they charge for this gimmick...
OK, one should open up the eyes and READ closely :shock:
These thingy's cost a lot - like you said in your post before....
cheers
madcap
ive just ordered all the items i want to do what i want..
but the problem that im thinking of is..
how would the bluetooth headset work,, i mean.. there wont be any signal from the phone that there is a phone call or something.. will pressing answer button will do the thing???
im really afraid that there must be a specific profile on the headset or the transmitter.. i dont know..
someone can help??
Hey all, I have been reading like crazy for months, have donated to the site and to some of the developers as well as pledging to the driver cause and doing my best to contact everyone from HTC to people in the press who have covered the issues as well as contacting people/organizations who haven't covered the issues yet.
I have searched and read everything I can about getting audio IN to the Kaiser and haven't seen much activity concerning the subject, so I thought it would be cool to create a thread that deals with this issue. I am going to use this thread to document my experiments. I believe this is the best way I can give back to the community aside from the financial support I show developers etc.
I am a pro musician & producer and want to use Meteor to record song ideas while I am traveling. I am looking to get line level signals into my HTC TYtN II and using the Meteor multi track recorder
http://www.4pockets.com/product_info.php?p=82
It would be very cool to use Meteor to write and record song ideas when I travel. It doesn't have to be super high quality audio, I just want to have a recording of my song ideas so I don't forget them. I have a little electronics device I plug my guitar in that makes it sound like a guitar amplifier. Think of it as a type of audio player for guitars that has an output like an ipod or whatever. I have a little drum machine and a synth keyboard and things like that (they all use line level signals). I do not want to use a microphone I want to use a line level signal from other devices.
Using this diagram
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Trinity_EMUConnector
.... I am looking to get an electronics technician to make me a custom plug that will let me get audio into the TyTN II. I suspect that it will be a mic level signal as opposed to a line level signal but I am not sure about this. I have a great deal of experience with music gear, and very little experience with hand held devices in terms of understanding the hardware.
I suspect that whatever audio does get into the Kaiser will be treated as a mic signal, even if a direct signal is used (unless sendign data via USB is possible). I am going to try and get the tech to make a couple of custom cables using HTC's proprietary ExtUSB connector, but if I cant get one made for ExtUSB, I will get cables made that will work using one or more of the the inputs on a 3 in 1 adapter as seen here:
http://cgi.ebay.com/3-in-1-USB-3-5m...ryZ15040QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I am assuming audio applications will be able to "see" the audio once it is sent via the connection.
Some things I am looking into:
1. What format the TyTN II will use for audio that is sent in to it through a custom cable?
2. What kind of quality will the audio will be? WHat kind of control will we have over that audio?
3. Will it be stereo capable or just mono? I am fairly certain that only mono audio is possible via the mic input part of the ExtUSB input.
4. I wonder if audio can be imported in real time via USB connection or if audio can only be imported via the pins that enable a mic for phone use?
Like I said, I will share what I find out and if anyone happens to have ideas or knowledge please reply in this thread.
There are other uses too, aside from using multi track audio applications. If I can get this to work (I am pretty sure I can) , how would you use it?If you have ideas, perhaps you can sHare ways we could take advantage of importing audio into the Kaiser.
Bump this, i have been thinking about this also, if it had 2 seperate headphone and mic plugs, the adaptors for say a guitar or bass would be basic, since the mic is mono and so are the insturments. If i had the tools for micro-miniature soldering, i'd be able to do it easily. but i dont, so if any1 wants to make a couple, i would purchase it in a heartbeat.
You can use meteor or any recorder on the handset, if you're in a quiet room the internal mic does record sound pretty good. if there was a way to do multi tracks at the same time(multiple leads) now that would be something.
Yep, big bump from me. MeTeor is fantastic, having a little recording studio anywhere is great. However, getting a line-in would just open up everything!
Caleb
Would love to have one of these. Any ideas guys?
As far as I know the X1 does not have TV-out capability.
i think the same. not tv out.
Shame really because the TV-out function is bundled on the MSM7200A Qualcomm chip just like the other HTCs.
I wonder if they scraped it completely or if it is connected to the USB interface somehow (or the audio jack as I have seen other devices using it on TV-out with 4 rings on the 3.5 jack).
There are registry keys for tv out
Would be nice if anyone could try the HTC-video out cable, i believe it's connected by usb
Don't quote me on this but I think the HTC video out cable (for the touch Pro at least) is proprietary. The Touch Pro has an odd USB port that has 4/5 connectors on the other side of the USB pins that the video out/headphones use.
Still, that means the TV out on the TP is still using the same connectors as the audio, so puts it in line with other devices with 4 ring audio connectors and TV out.
Im sure someone will figure it out. I would hook it up to one of these babys:
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PICO-POCKET-P...hash=item140280435443&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
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Don't quote me on this but I think the HTC video out cable (for the touch Pro at least) is proprietary. The Touch Pro has an odd USB port that has 4/5 connectors on the other side of the USB pins that the video out/headphones use.
Still, that means the TV out on the TP is still using the same connectors as the audio, so puts it in line with other devices with 4 ring audio connectors and TV out.
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Yup, you are right about the proprietary connector for the HTCs.
So if TV-out exists on X1 it should be on the 3.5 audio jack.
Is there a specific program that HTC devices use for TV-out? Maybe someone could try to load that program on the X1 and insert a 4 ring tv-out jack in the audio connector.
I seriously doubt it will work out, but testing won't do any harm.
Maybe this image could help, myself, i'm not sure if ther's three or four "pins".
if the connector is normal miniUSB then thats no option for tvout unless
the device support usbHost which as far as i know it dont (could be wrong though)
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Maybe this image could help, myself, i'm not sure if ther's three or four "pins".
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It definitely seems to have more rings than a usual 3.5 stereo audio jack but I can't be really sure.
Here you can see a normal audio jack.
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It definitely seems to have more rings than a usual 3.5 stereo audio jack but I can't be really sure.
Here you can see a normal audio jack.
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If we could just get the TV-out application from Touch Pro, then someone could try with it, i think i have one 4-5pin 3.5" video-out cable here somewhere.
TV out from the Touch
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2692292&postcount=204)
I tried to launch the HTC TV app, but i could'n get it to work. Maybe there are some registry keys that i need to modify first, but i don't know which.
LOL, also i realized that there is more than 3 pins to the 3.5" jacket, there must be additional pins for the microphone to work.
Unless there's a possibility to use some pins as both microphone and video-out signals we're stuck here... I have to admit i'm getting the feeling of this beeing the case.
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LOL, also i realized that there is more than 3 pins to the 3.5" jacket, there must be additional pins for the microphone to work.
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Which microphone? Why have a microphone pin on the "line-out" audio jack?
Except if you mean that the X1 audio connector can accept wired hands free.
EDIT: Ok I think we are screwed. If the X1 can be coupled with 4 pin 3.5mm audio jacks wired hands free kits then TV-out is a no-go. I haven't seen any 5 ring 3.5mm jacks and even if there are, it would be a long shot.
It can accept wired hands free- look at the hands-free that comes with it. I would love Tv-out, but i'm almost positive its not included.
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There are registry keys for tv out
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really! i see too
the htc hd doesnt have tv out? if it does, i this the x1 must have tv out too.. because its the "same" hardware or dont?
Regardless of whether registry keys exist and regardless whether the chipset has this feature, the hardware does not exist to do it so it cant be done. Perhaps if someone opened up thier X1 and soldered in the miniUSB jack from a touch pro and found the necessary pins for video out it would be posible. But as it is it cant be done. It requires a hardware mod, not software. Anyone with lots of cash and a touch pro and an xperia to spare?
I am the happy owner of a HTC Topaz.
I ride a motorbike, and have recently bought a bluetooth crash helmet with built in speakers / mic which works a treat for answering and making calls and also for listening to TomTom navigation instructions from my HTC Topaz.
However, I have yet found a solution to allow me to listen to the built in radio via bluetooth. Because HTC requires the plug-in headset to act as an antena the radio doesnt work without it.
However when I plug in the headset, i get instant radio reception but then the sound is routed to the plug-in headset , rather thean the bluetooth speakers.
My logic tells me that there must be some way to use the plug in headset as ONLY an antena allowing the sound to be routed by deafault to the bluetooth headset. Surely this is software driven?
I am not a software Guru, but keen to learn and frustreted that there doesnt seem to be a yet obvious solution to this problem.
Any help would be appreciated.
T
Why 4 threads?
You have to use plug-in headset as antenna.
Then try this:
http://freewareppc.com/communication/acbtogglebt.shtml
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Why 4 threads?
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Sorry if i've messed up with protocol. I thought that i'd have more chance of a solution hitting various forums areas..
Unfortunately you might find it's not possible because the audio routing to the bluetooth encoder inside the phone is probably before the point at which the FM audio is injected. Just speculation,but I believe it may be the case.
If the first one doesn't work, check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541238
Great
fighter7139 said:
If the first one doesn't work, check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541238
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It worked!!
Finally.
Many Many thanks!!
Hi I would like to know if HTC RC E100 will work with hd2.
Thanks for answers!
No, it won't work, because the RC-E100 has a mini USB cable and not a micro USB one, i tried it already with a RC from a friend
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No, it won't work, because the RC-E100 has a mini USB cable and not a micro USB one, i tried it already with a RC from a friend
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Won't a Mini to Micro converter work?
This is a really good question. I would really like to use this control unit with my own headphones...
I'm new to the workings of the RC E100.
Could some kind soul please explain the connections for this item?
If I'm reading this correctly, does it connect directly into the micro USB port (with adapter if it works) but how does it then pick up the Music/Phone call data if it is not connected to the Audio Jack (or is it a split connection with one to the USB port & one to the 3.5 Audio Jack)?
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Won't a Mini to Micro converter work?
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I don't think it will work, because the mini USB cable from the RC E100 has a special configuration (cable/pin). So i think that a convertor won't work.
Dearest fellow hd2-owners,
I am searching a couple of days to a wired handsfree headset with music control for my HTC HD2. Unfortunately, i cannot find one, besides the original included by the phone, wich doesn't support exchangeable earphones.
The RC e100 is just what i'm looking for.
Can anybody tell me if it is possible with a cable between it:
3.5 mm to mini usb:
If not, can anybody tell me if there is a alternative wired handsfree headset with music control, which is supported by htc hd2... ???
Thanks ..
Kindly Regards M.
For further explaination:
With music control, i mean: song forward, song backward, volume etc..
Answer call / hangup
Thanks ..
M
I asked htc support if rc e 100 would work with mini to micro adapter and they told me that it won't been working correctly.
They also told me that something comparable to rc e100 won't be in sail soon for micro usb devices.
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I asked htc support if rc e 100 would work with mini to micro adapter and they told me that it won't been working correctly.
They also told me that something comparable to rc e100 won't be in sail soon for micro usb devices.
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This is a JOKE. I have the HTC desire, and the headphones that come boxed are horrible. When you finally fit them in your ear they hurt after 5 seconds. Why would you not have a socket in the damn media control bit? Every Nokia phone i have ever had comes with this basic feature.. allowing you to connect your own ear buds to the multifunction remote control.
so in this case, I’m going to have to cut up the headphones that came with the desire and attach a 3.5 socket, allowing me to connect my sennheisers and giving me the ability to control the music player /sigh GG htc. you build a sweet phone but gimp its audio playback all because u didn’t want to spend the 1 cent it would have cost to put a socket in the damn headset attachment, and not even bothering to offer an accessory.
I should point out that the headset that comes with the desire is not micro usb, but rather a 3.5 plug. It allows play, pause, skip, answer and has a mic.
I am going to jump on the bandwagon on this one too and comment on how disgraceful it is that accessories aren't interchangeable and that nothing similar is being devised for the newer generation of phones. The headset is one of the failing features of HTC units and a good quality remote would be the answer to just let people use whatever IEMs, heaphones they want.
"Luckily" my right headphone that came with it is broken already. It may have been from the start, it sounds horrible like it's scraping its voice coil and I was about to order the RC E100 when running into this thread... Thanks for saving me .
I will have no choice and no reservation to cut the earbuds off and mount a 3.5mm socket to it. I may even go and experiment if HTC added some not-yet implemented resistorvalues for a future remote control, as I did do some checks and it seems the remote on the standard headphone is a simple resistor network like e.g a Sony RM-X4S (search for panuworld and RM-X4S to see a schematic) caraudio wired remote. I wouldn't put it past them to actually have the volume-control resistor values programmed into the HD2, but simply not implemented in any accessory yet.
A happy but sometimes also disillusioned HTC HD2 owner. Next stop: voice dialing... (last I looked that wasn't solved yet either, but I've been ill so didn't actively look for a couple of months, that's also the reason I didn't get into the wired remote resistor values any further. I did measure the existing values on the standard headset remote and actually have an RM-X4S at home that might get me started with some standard values (or drawers full of other resistors))
Damn, this thread has got me excited, I wanna go home and figure this out! (They'll let me out the hospital on Thursday, but please let me know if someone somewhere has already done this work, cannot believe I would be the first to dive into this!!! "This" being the mapping of the resistor values of the OEM headphone headset remote and searching for extra resistorvalues that might have different functions (10 minutes work in mapping the values, 15 minutes putting it in writing and posting it here and another hour to butcher my headset beyond repair and hook up the RM-X4S to it, guess I might have to sacrifice my headset for science unless someone has a broken one they want to ship me, should have picked up the run-over Nokia headset I saw on the ground a few weeks back that had a 4 pin 3.5mm connector, that's all I need for hooking up other resistorvalues...Oh, I'll figure something out or indeed butcher it and ask the company to buy me a new one, as mine IS actually broken. They'll survive the extra 9€ on top of having to pay me while I am out of the running for half a year due to the illness...)
BTW, this thread is old, and there is a micro-phone 3.5mm input super simple remote available, but it does less than the OEM headset apart from you being able to plug in your own headphone. HTC HD2 Audio Adaptor for 3.5mm to 3.5mm HS U350 (with Stereo Headset + HTC Logo, Retail Pack) for 21 € That's more money than a RC E100 with a LOT less functionality: good call HTC
R-P said:
"Luckily" my right headphone that came with it is broken already. It may have been from the start, it sounds horrible like it's scraping its voice coil and I was about to order the RC E100 when running into this thread... Thanks for saving me .
I will have no choice and no reservation to cut the earbuds off and mount a 3.5mm socket to it. I may even go and experiment if HTC added some not-yet implemented resistorvalues for a future remote control, as I did do some checks and it seems the remote on the standard headphone is a simple resistor network like e.g a Sony RM-X4S (search for panuworld and RM-X4S to see a schematic) caraudio wired remote. I wouldn't put it past them to actually have the volume-control resistor values programmed into the HD2, but simply not implemented in any accessory yet.
A happy but sometimes also disillusioned HTC HD2 owner. Next stop: voice dialing... (last I looked that wasn't solved yet either, but I've been ill so didn't actively look for a couple of months, that's also the reason I didn't get into the wired remote resistor values any further. I did measure the existing values on the standard headset remote and actually have an RM-X4S at home that might get me started with some standard values (or drawers full of other resistors))
Damn, this thread has got me excited, I wanna go home and figure this out! (They'll let me out the hospital on Thursday, but please let me know if someone somewhere has already done this work, cannot believe I would be the first to dive into this!!! "This" being the mapping of the resistor values of the OEM headphone headset remote and searching for extra resistorvalues that might have different functions (10 minutes work in mapping the values, 15 minutes putting it in writing and posting it here and another hour to butcher my headset beyond repair and hook up the RM-X4S to it, guess I might have to sacrifice my headset for science unless someone has a broken one they want to ship me, should have picked up the run-over Nokia headset I saw on the ground a few weeks back that had a 4 pin 3.5mm connector, that's all I need for hooking up other resistorvalues...Oh, I'll figure something out or indeed butcher it and ask the company to buy me a new one, as mine IS actually broken. They'll survive the extra 9€ on top of having to pay me while I am out of the running for half a year due to the illness...)
BTW, this thread is old, and there is a micro-phone 3.5mm input super simple remote available, but it does less than the OEM headset apart from you being able to plug in your own headphone. HTC HD2 Audio Adaptor for 3.5mm to 3.5mm HS U350 (with Stereo Headset + HTC Logo, Retail Pack) for 21 € That's more money than a RC E100 with a LOT less functionality: good call HTC
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Keep us posted man. Always interested in new audio hacks for the HD2. I'm missing the volume control too!
RC e100 via adaptor to HD2 possible?
Hello!
There is another threat (german only) which deals with connecting the RC e100 via adaptor to the HD2:
http://www.pocketpc.ch/android-allgemein/118188-htc-rc-e-100-headset.html
Maybe the following idea is totally nonsense, please let me know if I'm wrong:
The RC e100 apparently uses the extendedUSB version of miniUSB.
Does anyone know if the HD2's micro USB provides extendedUSB functionality as well?
Can anyone provide a circuit diagram to modify a mini to micro usb adaptor or cable 'USB-Adapter - 5-polig Micro-USB Typ B (M) - Mini-USB, Typ B (W)' to use the extendedUSB functionality of HD2 for the RC e100?
Thanks for your reply!
felixdd said:
Keep us posted man. Always interested in new audio hacks for the HD2. I'm missing the volume control too!
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Took quite a while for me to test, but using an RM4-XS (or something) does NOT work on the inputs of the HD2/Leo. So it seems the resistor values of this Sony car-audio remote do not trigger any 'hidden' functions, so it is likely the OEM remote on the headphone is all the functionality you are going to get.
Sorry about getting peoples hopes up...