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Can't find a good headset! Need help

OK.. I dont know alot about my PPCPE, and apparently I dont know enough to find a good head set for my phone. I know it is a 2.5mm jack is that not right? I have tried universal 2.5 mm and well some work some dont, some work if I dont push it in all the way, and some do. Crazy stuff..
Anyway, I find one that I really like. It looks like it will be perfect for my small little ear cavity. Does anyone know if this might work with the PPCPE/XDA device:
http://www.jabra.com/products/ewboom.htm
Its called the Ear Wave Boom its coming out shortly this month I believe.
I think it would be perfect. If it will work.
Let me know.. look forward to the day I find a good one.

Nope want work with an adapter, sorry!
HTH

Curious but why will it not work? What is wrong about it? 2.5mm is the plug size right? Why does it seem that some of these 2.5 mm universals work and some dont?
I ask seriously because I am confused about it all. I have a 2.5 mm jabra that works currently, so I assumed another Jabra that is also 2.5mm should work as well.
Unless I am confused or missing some info I just dont understand.

Jabra Headset
Will not work, because the 2.5mm jack on the XDA is 4 pole, not three. The four poles support:
1. Mic +
2. Left ear +
3. Right ear +
4. Common ground
On the jabra set, which is mono, there is no 3rd ring on the plug. Inserting it into the xda shorts the right hand channel to ground, and when in phone mode (i.e. mono, not playing back .mp3's or whatever), the left and right hand audio channels are just connected together. Shorting the right hand channel wipes out your headset sound completely.

Something is not accurate then..
Sorry but something just is not right then. Because I have a regular Jabra headset, that uses the basic 2.5 universal adapter. I can use it with my XDA, and yes it is only 3 poles/2 rings on the jabra adapter.
Now granted the button to answer does not work, but I can hear just fine and speak just fine using it.
So, I am confused still. Your not the only one to say it will not work, heck when I bought it the guy said it would not work. But it does. And its not the only one I have like that that does work. I have also used a body glove headset that is a 2.5 universal adapter. So like I said I am still confused.

A universal 2.5mm headset should not work.
You need an adapter for use with a universal headset. See:
http://pc-mobile.net/xda.htm
Many universale headset do not have answer/mute button. Even if they have, it may not work.
(2.5mm universal headset were originally produced for Motorola phones. Earlier models do not support answer/mute button)

Why is T-MO's BlueTooth so difficult to use?

The one thing I truly hate about my T-Mo MDA after 6 months is the difficulty using BlueTooth. I had an HP6315 (also T-Mo) which, despite all its other problems (like crashing everyday) had a far more sensible BlueTooth tool.
I don't have an issue with changing the stack--once I'm connected to a device I'm pretty much good, but the connection process is a serious pain in the patoot.
Before the impatient pros tell me "why don't you do a search before you post?" let me say that I have, and nobody I've found addresses this.
It's a really simple thing: every other device I own or have owned that uses B/T peripherals has a "Connect" choice. It doesn't matter if it was my 6315 Ipaq, my laptop computers, a Motorola cell phone or Samsung D-820/T-809 cell phones. All have the ability to force the connection. But the MDA doesn't, as far as I can tell. It either connects automatically, or you (frequently) have to delete the device and initiate a new search for it.
Am I missing something? Is this just the way the MDA is? Is there a piece of software or a registry hack that allows you to force it to connect?
I'm also curious as to why a regular telephone headset won't play back from Windows Media or BetaPlayer. It would very nicely on the 6315 Ipaq and still functioned as a phone. Any ideas? And, the reason I like to do that is I have a long commute and like to listen to Pimsleur language CDs (ripped to MP3) in the car. They work through the wired headset, but I can't stand wired headsets. I can imagine books on CD would also be enjoyable that way.
Thanks!

Yanktar03 said:
I'm also curious as to why a regular telephone headset won't play back from Windows Media or BetaPlayer. It would very nicely on the 6315 Ipaq and still functioned as a phone. Any ideas? And, the reason I like to do that is I have a long commute and like to listen to Pimsleur language CDs (ripped to MP3) in the car. They work through the wired headset, but I can't stand wired headsets. I can imagine books on CD would also be enjoyable that way.
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You can do this. Get BTAudio.

Its not tmobile it the windows bluetooth stack. i have no problems but most people like the widcomm stack because its simple and easy. you should also try a bluetooth stereo headset its good thing to buy if you dont like wired headsets but advise to buy when having extra cash or look for a low price. prices are going down for some reason where i live

I DO have B/T stereo headphones, a pair of Jensens and a pair of IO gear. The latter list for around $150 or more, but a friend bought 2 pair (accidentally) off the 'net for about $35/per. That's what I gave him. The Jensens cost a little more but not much. Both make the HPs look like junk and are far more comfortable.
The problem is in my state it is VERY illegal to wear headphones while you drive. You can wear them on one ear, but not both.
Next, if you use them (not while driving) you are forced to use them as either stereo OR as a mono telephone headset--check the B/T settings.
It never fails to amaze me how if M/S has 5 or 10 choices, they will ALWAYS choose the most difficult to use (and idiosyncratic), the least useful, and the least reliable.

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Yanktar03 said:
I'm also curious as to why a regular telephone headset won't play back from Windows Media or BetaPlayer.
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rpodos said:
I was responding to this part:
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Thanks, I appreciate your responding.

Fm radio without wire

haha so i was messing with the radio today and i got it working with no wire. SORTA. So i plugged in the adapter in to the usb port and then stuck my stylus into the 3.5mm jack it fits and it make the radio work. try it. I'm going to try to find some thing to fit into the 2.5 mm jack and see if it works? Ill let u guys know

Lol, reserved

HAHA , it works

wow this worked remarkably well lol and to my suprise you don't have to jam it in there and it fits quite nicely.

it works
nice work and nice find..... yes it works fine

Just be careful not to short anything out, could be bad news!

haha this is tite

Why stylus?
What do you mean by "adapter", konefatp? I assume one of these.
I got me one straight after I got the TP and the radio works just by plugging it in, no need to use the stylus. So I don't see your point.

skamin said:
What do you mean by "adapter", konefatp? I assume one of these.
I got me one straight after I got the TP and the radio works just by plugging it in, no need to use the stylus. So I don't see your point.
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I think he meant the "stock" multi adapter.
I also use a generic adapter from China and the radio works without any headphones.
It would be awesome if someone could just crack the radio app and get rid of the verification.

Daved+ said:
I think he meant the "stock" multi adapter.
I also use a generic adapter from China and the radio works without any headphones.
It would be awesome if someone could just crack the radio app and get rid of the verification.
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yes i meant stock adapter.
I had two so i took one apart and messed with the wires got it working not i just gotta find out which pins the are coming out from

Or you guys can be smart about it and flip to the "Headset" dword key to 1 in the registry(hklm\system\state)... so it thinks a wired headset is plugged in, even though it isnt

NRGZ28 said:
Or you guys can be smart about it and flip to the "Headset" dword key to 1 in the registry(hklm\system\state)... so it thinks a wired headset is plugged in, even though it isnt
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It would be nice if someone could make a button to toggle that reg key.

Alternatively you can also try the xFM radio player I wrote, it doesn't check earphone and support more features such as read radio text, listen to police station by selecting Japan band etc.
Sorry for that poor interface and you have to use system build-in volume control because it is still under research.
Initially I was going to write a powerful beautiful FM radio player for my Raphael but all users hope me to research TMC for navigation system.
Click FM Radio in my signature to get that FM player..

flywhc said:
Alternatively you can also try the xFM radio player I wrote, it doesn't check earphone and support more features such as read radio text, listen to police station by selecting Japan band etc.
Sorry for that poor interface and you have to use system build-in volume control because it is still under research.
Initially I was going to write a powerful beautiful FM radio player for my Raphael but all users hope me to research TMC for navigation system.
Click FM Radio in my signature to get that FM player..
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It doesn't work for me if it doesn't detect the earphones
I can get RSSI 47 but it will still not play until I plug in some earphones.
RDS works perfect without the earphones but not the sound.

Daved+ said:
It doesn't work for me if it doesn't detect the earphones
I can get RSSI 47 but it will still not play until I plug in some earphones.
RDS works perfect without the earphones but not the sound.
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Sorry, it seems a bug somewhere... just like I still don't know how to control volume.
Thanks for your testing.

flywhc said:
Sorry, it seems a bug somewhere... just like I still don't know how to control volume.
Thanks for your testing.
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If I can be more help with the testing, just let me know what I have to do, I would really like this app to work in the Raph.
PS: I am a software developer too but I haven't done much for WinMo.

uniqueboy said:
It would be nice if someone could make a button to toggle that reg key.
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i sense the easiest app ever created i'm going to go make a toggle cab... (my programming skills suck, too bad there no powershell for WM )

ndn715 said:
i sense the easiest app ever created i'm going to go make a toggle cab... (my programming skills suck, too bad there no powershell for WM )
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If toggling that reg setting does work, then you could create an app that sets it, launches the radio app and waits for the radio app to finish, and then switches it back again - pretty straightforward. However, is anybody getting any signal without the headphones plugged in? I don't seem to get anything.
Cheers,
Steve.

The stylus in the 3.5mm jack socket trick is genius now it looks as though I have some really special aerial. I love it, Brilliant

NRGZ28 said:
Or you guys can be smart about it and flip to the "Headset" dword key to 1 in the registry(hklm\system\state)... so it thinks a wired headset is plugged in, even though it isnt
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I tried this, I can launch the Radio program, but there is just no sound (even when I put on speaker)
As for the XFMradio program, I can't get any station... don't know how it work. I'm from Montreal, btw

Radio via Bluetooth. HELP

I am the happy owner of a HTC Topaz.
I ride a motorbike, and have recently bought a bluetooth crash helmet with built in speakers / mic which works a treat for answering and making calls and also for listening to TomTom navigation instructions from my HTC Topaz.
However, I have yet found a solution to allow me to listen to the built in radio via bluetooth. Because HTC requires the plug-in headset to act as an antena the radio doesnt work without it.
However when I plug in the headset, i get instant radio reception but then the sound is routed to the plug-in headset , rather thean the bluetooth speakers.
My logic tells me that there must be some way to use the plug in headset as ONLY an antena allowing the sound to be routed by deafault to the bluetooth headset. Surely this is software driven?
I am not a software Guru, but keen to learn and frustreted that there doesnt seem to be a yet obvious solution to this problem.
Any help would be appreciated.
T

Why 4 threads?

You have to use plug-in headset as antenna.
Then try this:
http://freewareppc.com/communication/acbtogglebt.shtml

koen-ronse said:
Why 4 threads?
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Sorry if i've messed up with protocol. I thought that i'd have more chance of a solution hitting various forums areas..

Unfortunately you might find it's not possible because the audio routing to the bluetooth encoder inside the phone is probably before the point at which the FM audio is injected. Just speculation,but I believe it may be the case.

If the first one doesn't work, check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541238

Great
fighter7139 said:
If the first one doesn't work, check this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=541238
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It worked!!
Finally.
Many Many thanks!!

Htc rc e100

Hi I would like to know if HTC RC E100 will work with hd2.
Thanks for answers!

No, it won't work, because the RC-E100 has a mini USB cable and not a micro USB one, i tried it already with a RC from a friend

chrcad said:
No, it won't work, because the RC-E100 has a mini USB cable and not a micro USB one, i tried it already with a RC from a friend
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Won't a Mini to Micro converter work?

This is a really good question. I would really like to use this control unit with my own headphones...

I'm new to the workings of the RC E100.
Could some kind soul please explain the connections for this item?
If I'm reading this correctly, does it connect directly into the micro USB port (with adapter if it works) but how does it then pick up the Music/Phone call data if it is not connected to the Audio Jack (or is it a split connection with one to the USB port & one to the 3.5 Audio Jack)?

harolds said:
Won't a Mini to Micro converter work?
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I don't think it will work, because the mini USB cable from the RC E100 has a special configuration (cable/pin). So i think that a convertor won't work.

Dearest fellow hd2-owners,
I am searching a couple of days to a wired handsfree headset with music control for my HTC HD2. Unfortunately, i cannot find one, besides the original included by the phone, wich doesn't support exchangeable earphones.
The RC e100 is just what i'm looking for.
Can anybody tell me if it is possible with a cable between it:
3.5 mm to mini usb:
If not, can anybody tell me if there is a alternative wired handsfree headset with music control, which is supported by htc hd2... ???
Thanks ..
Kindly Regards M.

For further explaination:
With music control, i mean: song forward, song backward, volume etc..
Answer call / hangup
Thanks ..
M

I asked htc support if rc e 100 would work with mini to micro adapter and they told me that it won't been working correctly.
They also told me that something comparable to rc e100 won't be in sail soon for micro usb devices.

str0g said:
I asked htc support if rc e 100 would work with mini to micro adapter and they told me that it won't been working correctly.
They also told me that something comparable to rc e100 won't be in sail soon for micro usb devices.
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This is a JOKE. I have the HTC desire, and the headphones that come boxed are horrible. When you finally fit them in your ear they hurt after 5 seconds. Why would you not have a socket in the damn media control bit? Every Nokia phone i have ever had comes with this basic feature.. allowing you to connect your own ear buds to the multifunction remote control.
so in this case, I’m going to have to cut up the headphones that came with the desire and attach a 3.5 socket, allowing me to connect my sennheisers and giving me the ability to control the music player /sigh GG htc. you build a sweet phone but gimp its audio playback all because u didn’t want to spend the 1 cent it would have cost to put a socket in the damn headset attachment, and not even bothering to offer an accessory.
I should point out that the headset that comes with the desire is not micro usb, but rather a 3.5 plug. It allows play, pause, skip, answer and has a mic.

I am going to jump on the bandwagon on this one too and comment on how disgraceful it is that accessories aren't interchangeable and that nothing similar is being devised for the newer generation of phones. The headset is one of the failing features of HTC units and a good quality remote would be the answer to just let people use whatever IEMs, heaphones they want.

"Luckily" my right headphone that came with it is broken already. It may have been from the start, it sounds horrible like it's scraping its voice coil and I was about to order the RC E100 when running into this thread... Thanks for saving me .
I will have no choice and no reservation to cut the earbuds off and mount a 3.5mm socket to it. I may even go and experiment if HTC added some not-yet implemented resistorvalues for a future remote control, as I did do some checks and it seems the remote on the standard headphone is a simple resistor network like e.g a Sony RM-X4S (search for panuworld and RM-X4S to see a schematic) caraudio wired remote. I wouldn't put it past them to actually have the volume-control resistor values programmed into the HD2, but simply not implemented in any accessory yet.
A happy but sometimes also disillusioned HTC HD2 owner. Next stop: voice dialing... (last I looked that wasn't solved yet either, but I've been ill so didn't actively look for a couple of months, that's also the reason I didn't get into the wired remote resistor values any further. I did measure the existing values on the standard headset remote and actually have an RM-X4S at home that might get me started with some standard values (or drawers full of other resistors))
Damn, this thread has got me excited, I wanna go home and figure this out! (They'll let me out the hospital on Thursday, but please let me know if someone somewhere has already done this work, cannot believe I would be the first to dive into this!!! "This" being the mapping of the resistor values of the OEM headphone headset remote and searching for extra resistorvalues that might have different functions (10 minutes work in mapping the values, 15 minutes putting it in writing and posting it here and another hour to butcher my headset beyond repair and hook up the RM-X4S to it, guess I might have to sacrifice my headset for science unless someone has a broken one they want to ship me, should have picked up the run-over Nokia headset I saw on the ground a few weeks back that had a 4 pin 3.5mm connector, that's all I need for hooking up other resistorvalues...Oh, I'll figure something out or indeed butcher it and ask the company to buy me a new one, as mine IS actually broken. They'll survive the extra 9€ on top of having to pay me while I am out of the running for half a year due to the illness...)
BTW, this thread is old, and there is a micro-phone 3.5mm input super simple remote available, but it does less than the OEM headset apart from you being able to plug in your own headphone. HTC HD2 Audio Adaptor for 3.5mm to 3.5mm HS U350 (with Stereo Headset + HTC Logo, Retail Pack) for 21 € That's more money than a RC E100 with a LOT less functionality: good call HTC

R-P said:
"Luckily" my right headphone that came with it is broken already. It may have been from the start, it sounds horrible like it's scraping its voice coil and I was about to order the RC E100 when running into this thread... Thanks for saving me .
I will have no choice and no reservation to cut the earbuds off and mount a 3.5mm socket to it. I may even go and experiment if HTC added some not-yet implemented resistorvalues for a future remote control, as I did do some checks and it seems the remote on the standard headphone is a simple resistor network like e.g a Sony RM-X4S (search for panuworld and RM-X4S to see a schematic) caraudio wired remote. I wouldn't put it past them to actually have the volume-control resistor values programmed into the HD2, but simply not implemented in any accessory yet.
A happy but sometimes also disillusioned HTC HD2 owner. Next stop: voice dialing... (last I looked that wasn't solved yet either, but I've been ill so didn't actively look for a couple of months, that's also the reason I didn't get into the wired remote resistor values any further. I did measure the existing values on the standard headset remote and actually have an RM-X4S at home that might get me started with some standard values (or drawers full of other resistors))
Damn, this thread has got me excited, I wanna go home and figure this out! (They'll let me out the hospital on Thursday, but please let me know if someone somewhere has already done this work, cannot believe I would be the first to dive into this!!! "This" being the mapping of the resistor values of the OEM headphone headset remote and searching for extra resistorvalues that might have different functions (10 minutes work in mapping the values, 15 minutes putting it in writing and posting it here and another hour to butcher my headset beyond repair and hook up the RM-X4S to it, guess I might have to sacrifice my headset for science unless someone has a broken one they want to ship me, should have picked up the run-over Nokia headset I saw on the ground a few weeks back that had a 4 pin 3.5mm connector, that's all I need for hooking up other resistorvalues...Oh, I'll figure something out or indeed butcher it and ask the company to buy me a new one, as mine IS actually broken. They'll survive the extra 9€ on top of having to pay me while I am out of the running for half a year due to the illness...)
BTW, this thread is old, and there is a micro-phone 3.5mm input super simple remote available, but it does less than the OEM headset apart from you being able to plug in your own headphone. HTC HD2 Audio Adaptor for 3.5mm to 3.5mm HS U350 (with Stereo Headset + HTC Logo, Retail Pack) for 21 € That's more money than a RC E100 with a LOT less functionality: good call HTC
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Keep us posted man. Always interested in new audio hacks for the HD2. I'm missing the volume control too!

RC e100 via adaptor to HD2 possible?
Hello!
There is another threat (german only) which deals with connecting the RC e100 via adaptor to the HD2:
http://www.pocketpc.ch/android-allgemein/118188-htc-rc-e-100-headset.html
Maybe the following idea is totally nonsense, please let me know if I'm wrong:
The RC e100 apparently uses the extendedUSB version of miniUSB.
Does anyone know if the HD2's micro USB provides extendedUSB functionality as well?
Can anyone provide a circuit diagram to modify a mini to micro usb adaptor or cable 'USB-Adapter - 5-polig Micro-USB Typ B (M) - Mini-USB, Typ B (W)' to use the extendedUSB functionality of HD2 for the RC e100?
Thanks for your reply!

felixdd said:
Keep us posted man. Always interested in new audio hacks for the HD2. I'm missing the volume control too!
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Took quite a while for me to test, but using an RM4-XS (or something) does NOT work on the inputs of the HD2/Leo. So it seems the resistor values of this Sony car-audio remote do not trigger any 'hidden' functions, so it is likely the OEM remote on the headphone is all the functionality you are going to get.
Sorry about getting peoples hopes up...